He just like me fr!
This looks incredibly faggy.
>>153336110Best use of editor's notes that I have seen in a while
Another great issue!
This looks cool.
If you liked it, buy it! Support your local comic store!
>>153336129He isn't wearing glasses but they can't notice that he looks like Superman
Prime Time is a really good book
>>153336178Damian a Prime should be friends. Their friendship is more interesting than Jon’s.
Best mainline DC book.
>>153336122>>153336129She’s got nice boobies
>>153336116Oh right prime killed Paige's cousin
>>153336122I can hardly recognize Prime and I mean that in the best way possible. So good to see him happy.
>>153336129>>153336122Jesus Christ prime. She was all over you
>>153336116Fuck the League, Prime needs to swing by Titans Tower. I don't think anyone is ever forgiving him for what he did to Baby Wildebeest.>>153336207>Batman is incredible when it comes to forensics, but Nightwing understands people.That's painfully reductive. And this is the guy people want to take over one of the main Batman books?
>>153336135Little Optimus Prime Camo
>>153336790I can't believe Pantha is still fucking dead. She must've really been unpopular.
>>153336183sticking with the Paige thing?
>>153336400Well, some people think I look like Weird Al.
>>153336820>Pantha is still fucking deadNot true actually, she's made some cameos recently.
>>153336198>Great issue>>153336424>this is a really good book >>153336488>best mainline DC bookYou can see how this is all bullshit right?
>>153336135>Skybound Optimus in my DcDc Vs Transformers is gonna happen soonish (in a decade)Expect invisible jet transformer (its just transluscent starscream)
>>153336820Pantha was the one bright spot in a truly abysmal era of the Marv Wolfman run. She's never featured since because DC would rather do <insert fab five/jla legacy character> Titans runs instead of using the characters created for the franchise.Pantha, Red Star, Baby Wildebeest, and Bushido all deserve their moment with all this focus on Prime.I'd say Risk too, but he got killed again in the Tom Taylor Nightwing run.
>>153337183See I'm glad they're not getting focused because then they would be strawmanned as being unreasonable for holding a grudge against SuperOC Prime Self-Insert.
>>153336898Fuck off quoting me
>>153336122>Goku
>>153337257It looks like Goku, but due to international copyright laws, it's not.
>>153337235No because it's fucking ridiculous, two issues and what objectively is happening now and why should people care?
We get it Williamson, Damian is your favorite Robin and you felt victimized when people hated him back in the day.When is Prime meeting the Batkid that everyone actually wants him to meet?
>>153337418When he gets his helmet back apparently.
>>153336790>And this is the guy people want to take over one of the main Batman books?Yes. Well I do at least. I would have preferred PKJ but any port in a storm
>>153336116>>153336183>>153336188I feel like Power Girl should be wayyyy more involved in this arc than anyone else.
>>153336174>super friendsMade me smile
>>153337530>PKJHe's gone exclusive to Marvel, so that's not going to happen for a while
>>153336898Just enjoy this and stop being so jaded goddamn
>>153336198Why was i surprised about this... noooo
>>153337555>Just consoooooom shit
>>153336122Damn Prime. No riz.
>>153337592NTS but yeah products are meant to be consumed. What's with vulgar anti consumerism?
>>153336183>Paige
>>153336820She’s been alive for a while now and even married someone other than Red Star.Baby Wildbeest, on the other hand, is still dead.
>>153337502They really wrote him to have as many opinions as he can be similar to /co/, huh? Bold strategy. It works for me since I'm part of the hivemind but I do wonder how people outside of it are taking the consistent jabs.
>>153336183>They brought Captain Atom to Kansas.Talk about tempting fate.
>>153336129Who should be married?
>>153336129Did they give him a red hood sonichu medallion?
>>153337502>Fatson merchI wonder if capes get some merch money from this stuffI could see booster and beetle running an agency that takes care of this
>>153336198She will be CORRECTED by SBP cock
>>153337909He will punch her womb
>>153337915With his cock. When he's done with the JLU biddies drooling over him.
>>153336097Prime on this and previous cover makes me so horny
>>153337541If the July solicits are anything to go by, she'll (maybe) show up in issue 40. But she really deserves more than just three pages where she gets ran off by Ma Kent, especially considering her history with Prime. But I'm not looking forward to her being villainized for not casually just trusting the guy who killed her cousin
>>153336100Should’ve been Starfire instead of this literal who alien girl, but more non green lantern cosmic stuff nice
>>153338006The irony being that Powergirl is the closes person to be in Prime’s situation.While she’s an alternate Kara Zor-El with her previous universe destroyed and now stuck on Prime Earth where her main counterpart (Supergirl) has a life.Prime is an alternate Clark Kent whose previous universe was destroyed, yada yada yada.Plus they were both raised by Kal-L and Lois in their young lives.
>>153336152Hey look it’s the violator
>>153337855Confirmed to be peter and mj by mora.
>>153337602>>153336758Ironically, him being a dork just gives him more charm
>>153337714A certain group of people really want Prime and Jason to fuck.You know the one.
>>153338240Jason fans and yaoi fans. Jason fans want him to fuck anyone that'll make him even a shade more relevant than he actually is.
>>153338006If there is anyone besides Conner that has a beef with Prime, it’s PG
>>153338046korikek realizes the war was lost to BABSGODS and now wants to move to sbp
>>153338278I hate to agree with fujos, but I do think Prime and Jason have some interesting parallels and should definitely meet at some point.Not for like, sex or anything, at best they're gonna have a homoerotic friendship like other Superbats, but mainly to acknowledge their similarities and the fact that Jason is alive thanks to Prime.
>>153336183>>153336188Is power girl going to be prominent here ?
>>153338278>Jason fans want him to fuck anyone that'll make him even a shade more relevant than he actually is.That sounds more like Dick fans.
>>153338408Is it really? Most of them seem happy with him being with Barbara unless that's just Barbara's crazy stans latching on as they know it keeps her relevant.
>>153338408Dick doesn't need handouts like that, he has his own solo, and plays supporting roles in various books.All the other Robins are the ones fighting for scraps, specially Jason since unlike Damian and Tim, he doesn't play supporting roles as much as them.
>>153336122>>153336129>Prime gets his very own Maxima
>>153336198Williamson if you're here give us the Zatanna SBP Witchfire threesome
>>153338426It really is. Dick is the biggest attention whore in DC.>>153338437Dick literally just stole Jon from Damian.
>>153338278How would Jason fucking a far less popular character make him more relevant?
>>153338508
>>153338620Calm down Jasonkek. Popularity does not equal relevance. Jason is popular but not relevant . SBP is not popular but is certainly more relevant compared to Jason and Williamson currently has lots of plans for him between Superman and the upcoming Legion book. The idea is that Jason hooking up with Prime gets him more page time and a chance to do something rather than being remembered once in a while.
>>153336198isn't prime like super resistant to magic if so this has the potential to be one of the funniest cases of the mugging the monster trope
>>153338689If you're going to post an image, post the actual image. Also>no fishnets
>>153338689bless that artist and Williamson if you're still here give us this threesome as well then a Katana Vixen threesome then the big one involving Prime Witchfire Zatanna Huntress Katana and Vixenoh and let him fuck Power Girl too we're going full self insert porn parody here
>>153338809
>>153336188This is solid propf how dumb it is to try and redeem SBP, that for his redemption arc to even work he has to skip over all the hard part of working to be redeemed and just be already redeemed in the eyes of everyone just so he can be redeemed on the eyes of everyone.
>>153336129If Superboy Prime is the one who Wants the Marriage, Mayday, Annie, April, Benji and Richard back.They all should be back with one package so Peter and Mary Jane got all the kids.
>>153338689Kek more please
>>153338123Based
>>153338904Like it's own face illogical, either Martha Kent knows Superboy Prime is the world's mass murderer who has been committed mass murder on a global scale 3 times already and thinks that's no big dealOR The writers are literally holding two contradictory position that Superboy Prime is the same while his actions are not.
>>153338689>>153338797Prime getting all the bitches is a bit of a surprise, but a welcomed one
>>153338975Why? Why are you happy that he's popular with the ladies?
>>153338998Cause we get more cool fan art like this >>153338689
>>153338904I am hoping that's an actual plot point and eventually we will get to see him doing the work of trying to redeem himself including accepting that it'll mean some people will always hate him for his past and they are not wrong to do so.
>>153339044You can just get fanart of sexy ladies, you don't need fanart of sexy ladies with Superboy Prime.
>>153336178i half expected him to completely blow his cover because he'd fly to work in costume as to not be late
>>153339056Then you hope in vain because it's editoral asking you to ignore Infinite Crisis while still referencing Infinite Crisis.
>>153338058>>153338314I feel that we are finally getting a resolution towards this since prime is now perma redeemed.And Manchester Black will be the reason of why
>>153338691That is stupid. If Jason fans really wanted him to be more relevant, they’d want writers to actually do something with him, not shove him into some random hookup just for page time.
>>153339084You're taking a joke too seriously.
>>153339090Anon the real reason is fujos want to see sbp and jason fuck that's it
Its obvious reading the comic that prime still has issues and he constantly is talking like he's redeemed when for what he did you need to constantly be a better man.
>>153339114It's not a joke tho, it's just bad writing.
>>153339153Autism.
>>153336119I don't want you to mess up, CK.
>>153339153It is a joke. It acknowledged he has done horrible things and if you want to keep liking him you need to ignore it. Like prime is doing
>>153339183>It acknowledged he has done horrible thingsNo it's the exact opposite actually where it's trying to sidestep what SBP has done.
Honestly I think this issue just highlights a common issue I've noticed with Williamson from reading basically all his DC runs.I remember Christopher Priest, back when he was writing Black Adam, pointing out how dumb it was that writers like Bendis and Williamson were letting Black Adam hang out with the Justice League as if he didn't just completely annihilate a country back in 52. >Talia being responsible for the destruction of Markovia? Oh, but she is Damian's mother! The real monster of the story is Geo-Force for trying to avenge his country and his sister.>Cheshire nuking a country? When did that happen? She is allowed to hang out with the Arrow family!>Superboy Prime massacring half of the Teen Titans in Infinite Crisis? No big deal! Ma Kent has forgiven him so it's all fineThey should have had Prime go to Titans Tower or to Kon instead of hanging out with Williamson's pet character Damian. Don't half-ass this premise.
>>153339153Editorial boxes usually say>Check out X bookAn editorial box instead saying>Don't check out X bookis meant to be a joke because that's the exact opposite of what those do.
>>153339292>Christopher PriestFunny you mention him cause he wrote a Superboy-Prime story for the Marvel crossover where he also portrays him as a conflicted character looking for redemption.
>>153339336Just to clarify, there is no issue with an story about Superboy Prime looking for redemption. That's a fine enough story. The dumb part to me is having Damian or Ma Kent validate him.
>>153338576>Dick literally just stole Jon from Damian.That was less Dick, and more Jon and Damian being pushed in different directions.Jon being groomed as the next Superman and needing guidance, while Damian was running from everyone looking for redemption after almost falling into villainy.It also didn't help that the same hack writer was writing Nightwing and Jon around the same time.Even then, Dick would make sense as a kind of mentor for Jon whether the age up happened or not, it's just that it happened at a bad time when Damian was out of the picture and Jon was a completely different character.
Why do we have this attempt to redeem sbp? Didn't he already get redeem by sacrificng himself to defeat batlol and then got back in his world with his gf?In fact, why is he not with his gf?
>>153339416are you the one anon that's been slowly melting down over the past month over sbp?
>>153339292I think it's fine to start a "Prime redemption arc" like this, personally. Give him softballs. Lois playing nice, the Kents being wary but still the Kents, he can get some easy lay-ups for a bit because he's purposefully avoiding the shit he did. So long as before the end of it they force him to face up for everything, that's what this whole thing is predicated upon. The Titans basically have to dress him down with probably the entire cast refusing to ever interact with him, same goes for the GLs (even if they get massacred every other week) where he's almost blackballed from the cosmic side of DC.I think there's room to build up to the more abrasive side of his character rehabilitation.
>>153339425No, it's the first issue of this I've checked out, because I noticed it has sbp.tl;dr? I really got no clue
>>153339392I can't believe I'm going to praise Adams but the only time aged-up Jon Kent worked for me is in that DC KO tie-in where he is portrayed as being completely out of his depth babysitting a bunch of kids and everyone dismisses him as a nepokid.
>>153339446I think you just want to see SBP suffer and cut off from most of the DC cast
>>153339446Who the fuck care if Superboy Prime is rehabilitated though?That's my entire opinion on this matter, like why the investment?
>>153339377I think it makes complete sense that a character who is usually portrayed as full of love and compassion, and a character who has also been in a journey for redemption, validate Prime and understand his plight.Of course, you have others that don't trust him, that's why PG is there, Prime isn't exactly popular, like he said, he has many people waiting for him to mess up, it's not like everyone just accepts him right away.
>>153339292I’ll admit it’s kinda weird that it’s Damian of all people. Conner definitely should be the one he apologizes too. Kara too.
>>153339446If Hal "I'm gonna erase all timelines" Jordan can be redeemed I don't see why Prime can't
>>153336147>>153336144Batassholes are annoyingHow anyone really likes, much less wants to read about the batfam is stupidly absurd unless all they are doing is reading unlikely junk on the lines of Wayne Family Wankers Adventures The entire no-metas/no help in Gotham is just admission than anyone else could clean up that city far better than Batgod or any of his billions of child minions/clones/soldiers ever will but the point isn't solving much less stopping those crimes but wash, rinse and repeat of stupid, pointless joker/riddler/freeze, etc. stories.
>>153339491When are you gonna acknowledge this performative bullshit?The death metal tie-on wasn't that great you guys that SBP needs to become a regular.
>>153339416We've been over this, no one but Prime (and Krypto) knew about him helping out against Batkek, for all the other heroes know, Prime just bailed.>then got back to his worldRead the book man, it was a pocket dimension made, by Time Trapper.>>153339449>it's the first issue of this I've checked out, because I noticed it has sbp.Man, Prime has been in this book since issue 28, start there.
>>153339522Because he's not essential to anything.
>>153339453It was fun, I'll admit, but only because they acknowledged how much Jon sucks at it.I feel similarly with the current Unlimited arc, we all know Jon sucks, we just have to do something about it.Tomorrow Man and bringing back young Jon is a start.
>>153339550>for all the other heroes know, Prime just bailed.Oh so there's even less reason to give him any kind of grace.
>>153339495Because it’s fun to read? You are the exact type of person Johns was making fun off.
>>153339582How can it be fun to read when there's nothing about this story that works? Like the other guy said, this is too half-assed.
>>153339522Big yellow bug, please understand.
>>153339577The only reason they give him grace and haven't thrown him into some super hail again is because he helped out in the lead up to DC KO and Superman vouched for him before he disappeared.Also the fact that he isn't doing anything evil right now.
>>153339550>pocket dimension by trapperlame. it was a cool ending for himoh well, nothing ever ends in comics, this is fun too
>>153339542Who said anything about him being a regular? Its been set up as one story arc before Clark comes back lol seethe harder
>>153338782Depends on if Williamson remembers that.Prime was originally immune to Kryptonite, magic, and red sun radiation.They then changed that to just kryptonite and magic.And they might be forgetting about the magic thing too, the solicitation could be referring to magic as his weakness, or as Clark's weakness, we'll see.
>>153339652>Who said anything about him being a regular?Isn't it fairly obvious Prime is gonna be starring in the Williamson Legion of Superheroes series?
>>153338904>>153338962Some people can and do forgive without what y'all seem to view as redemption.It's no different than John Paul the II going to visit the guy in prison almost immediately after that papal assassination attempt - even though those were serious injuries.Some people are all about vengeance - you can see that today in politics and other ways. There's no point in doing that. Yes, not everyone can be redeemed but you also can't tie every fictional character to their fictional past because some lazy writer at some point in time couldn't come up with better solutions or better plot points that some idiotic plot contrivance and now have everyone live with it ad infinitum.Everything might be canon now and every story might matter but that still has contradictions and you can't allow for that and not allow for this.It's patently absurd.
>>153339681I think the Legion of Super-Heroes are actually gonna be the ones starring in the Legion of Super-Heroes book.
>>153339644>lame. it was a cool ending for himI'm right there with you man, this insekai bullshit where they're bending over backwards to make him the main character.
>>153339681And? The Legion will obviously be the main focus of the Legion of Superheroes run.
>>153339810And that still make the point about him a regular on there still valid.
>>153336471because Jon is the most boring legacy character.
>>153339416His redemption won’t last, and he’ll just end up wandering around aimlessly, like Jason
>>153336097Prime variant coversSuperman #37 Cover B Cary Nord VariantSuperman #37 Cover C Rachta Lin VariantSuperman #37 Cover D Nick Robles VariantSuperman #37 Cover E Eddy Barrows Things to Come VariantSuperman #37 Cover F Tokitokoro April Drools Variant>SUPERBOY-PRIME PICKS A FIGHT WITH MAGIC! Superboy-Prime uncovers a secret coven of witches in Metropolis led by the hellish Witchfire. Prime wants to prove he can be the better Superman so badly that he takes on one of his vulnerabilities... magic! But the problem is, now Prime finds himself drawn to Witchfire's deadly charms in more ways than one... all while one of Superman's deadliest enemies spies on the wannabe Man of Steel and waits for his moment to strike!LEGACY #881>DC COMICS · RELEASES JUN 24, 2026Superman #39OVERVIEWCONTRIBUTIONSPull ItSUPERBOY-PRIME VERSUS… DC COMICS? Superboy-Prime loves comics. He's a Wednesday Warrior and has read a lot of continuity. But a classic Superman villain has banished Prime into different issues he hasn't read! Get ready for a wild ride across the DC Universe as Prime is dragged kicking and screaming across past events, lost reboots, relaunches, and restarts! If he doesn't find his way back to Metropolis, he will be lost forever!LEGACY #882>SUPERBOY-PRIME VS. MANCHESTER BLACK FOR THE SOUL OF DC COMICS! The villainous Manchester Black demands to be resurrected and thinks Superboy-Prime knows how to give him his life back. But it's more than that. Manchester Black wants to escape the world of comics and come to our world! It's meta versus meta! If Prime survives, he will still have to deal with members of the Super-Family, who are not happy he wants to be Superman! This all builds up to next month's Superman blockbuster summer story!
>>153339550>Read the book man, it was a pocket dimension made, by Time Trapper.Because of Williamson retcon, it was originally intended to be Earth Prime
>>153339726Why would anyone forgive this smug asshole who seems to be relishing how uncomfortable he make people?
>>153339905Yeah, but that's why you read the book, so you can learn about the retcon.
>>153339943But the retcon being lower quality writing is kinda the point they're making.
I just think he's neat :)
>>153339837And what's the problem?
>>153336100Did everyone on Earth get sick of Ollie?
>>153339292>They should have had Prime go to Titans Tower or to Kon instead of hanging out with Williamson's pet character Damian.While Williamson does have a Damian bias, Prime went to him specifically because he was also a hated character in and out of universe and he was looking for someone who could understand his plight.What would a meeting with Kon be like?>Hey so, I know I killed you that one time, but I'm like, REALLY sorry, and Superman believes me in me, so can you help me out on having others accept me? :DProbably not the best idea for Prime to meet with Kon again just yet, but it's coming according to Williamson.
>>153340013It doesn't make sense
>>153339952No, the point is that he didn't know what was going on, which wouldn't be the case if he kept up with the story.
>>153340036Ollie's being sent off to space so he has nothing to do with Earth for a while to keep the GA focus on Absolute. The current run didn't end due to poor sales but because DC didn't want anything including mainline GA affecting Absolute Green Arrow's sales.
>>153336198figures, the hot chick was an evil witch, I know this all too well.
>>153340087No that's not the point at all because for that anon the story already ended and there's no reason to revisit SBP.
They better revisit PG's beef with Prime, he basically killed Kal-L after all.And they better not fumble his eventual reunion with the YJ generation, these guys should probably hate Prime the most.
>>153340071they haven't even started the build for it yet, and Prime has plenty of history with the legion, who have their own history of taking on people who have done horrific shit in the past, like Earth-Man
Remember Punchline? No?I'm getting the exact same vibes here.>>153339882>>153339895>>153339906You can't make people like a character if there's not a story actually here.
>>153339868They can bond over that.
>>153340119>there's no reason to revisit SBP.of course there is, how else are you going to bitch about him
>>153340158>this comparison againlmao this better be a coincidence and not the same anon seething over Prime again
>>153340132>They better revisit PG's beefThey should but they won't. Take this page >>153336188 in that they already decided he's a good guy.
>>153340158Mate, Prime is an old character, not a character created in 2020, I guess you are not kind of him, some people still hate damian too.
>>153340158What a weird comparison, Punchline isn't a character from 1985 with a ton of history and legacy.
>>153340206It just says they're gonna let him try, anon.They're not having a tea party with him, PG is very clearly begrudgingly leaving, she's not accepting shit.
>>153340175I'm not bitching about Superboy Prime but this inseakai OC and the blatant astroturfing.Remember Harper Row and how Scott Snyder decided that she was gonna be considered the "fan favorite" before she even appeared in a single issue? Same fucking script.
>>153340224It doesn't make sense why she would leave because Martha wouldn't take his side to make Karen leave.This is Martha actint weird, like she's ignoring the fact that he's basically Homelander.
>>153336122Too much discussion about whether Prime's redemption works or not.Not enough discussion about how much of a loser he is.
>>153340190I'm probably am the same person who made the comparison before but who gives a fuck if I am? Just means you're the same person glazing SBP from the last thread too.
>>153340263>she's ignoring the fact that he's basically Homelander.Anon, Prime isn't called Superboy for anything, he's still relatively young, he's gone through a lot, like his Earth getting destroyed, and being used by smarter eviler characters.Does that justify what he did? No. But it also doesn't mean that he shouldn't be allowed to try to redeem himself, specially when the alternatives never worked or helped anyone.Superman is giving Prime another chance, why won't you?
>>153340241I don't care about what other characters you've bitched about, there's a very easy to follow throughline for Prime's character.it's very funny to keep saying no one likes this, given the fujoshi explosion
>>153340317Because that's dumb, he's an unrepentant mass murderer.
>>153340282100% he's just talking about reading non-Marvel/DC capeshit too
>>153339895
>>153340351That was like 2 reboots ago, geez, get OVER IT.
>>153340342What fujo explosion anon? The one DC was banking on but has yet to actually coalesce?
>>153340095Prime can fix her and worst case scenario she'll get BTFO if she really does anything bad
>>153340370Please don't make me post Primehood art to prove a point.
>>153340351half those d-listers came back to life already, and if they didn't they effectively never existed on Prime Earth, no one gives a shit about them
>>153340368Why should I?
>>153340385>>153340370Primehood is merely the beginning
>>153340385Do it but you're only gonna prove my point.Punchline got fanart too but fanart cannot substitute for a good story that fans can actually read.
>>153340351>he's an unrepentant mass murderer.In all fairness him acting like one in the first place was very out of character especially in Legion of 3 worlds for whatever reason Johns wrote Prime as an irredeemable piece of shit
>>153340263SBP was “basically Homelander” like a full reboot ago, Martha was not personally witness to any of that shit at this point. Unlike someone like PG, she only knows SBP’s atrocities second hand. All she sees is a guy everyone hates (and looks exactly like a 20 year old version of her son) trying to turn his life around.
>>153340455But that's the character Williamson has chosen to write about, like he could've just retcon infinite crisis entirely and have Prime Earth Clark Kent.Williamson wanted to write a Homelander Insekai instead.
>>153340485Prime isn't really like Homelander no matter how many times you say it.
>>153340455nobody likes to acknowledge that making Maggin's "Goodbye to superboy" character a mass murderer was shit writing in the first place, but it's small beans after we had some real shit crossovers
>>153340500How is he not?
>>153340557Homelander's a dickhead celebrity that needed to keep up appearances. You need another Evil Superman expy for this, like the Plutonian, who was also obsessed with being a good guy after everything he did
>>153340466>Unlike someone like PG, she only knows SBP’s atrocities second handI'm pretty sure Martha grieved over Conner's dead body.
>>153340158Why are marvel employees such a bunch of dishonest fags when their company is low on sales and being carried by marvel rivals and the DC crossover??
>>153340455Johns wrote prime as himself hating what DC has done to everything.Mainly the Legion.
>>153340578>who was also obsessed with being a good guy after everything he didYou mean like Superboy Prime?
>>153340661that's what I just said, yeahI know reading is hard for you
>>153340661every issue of Superman involving SBP and Legion as well is gonna have 100 replies minimum from the schizo losing it over the current Prime story
>>153340716i remember a brazillian shithead from a dead comic book blog with MDM in it, whom hated superboy prime
>>153340661Based retard.
>>153340716>>153340762You don't demonize a brazillian to shittalk me you fucking cowards hoping to exploit xenophobia.
>>153337821How do you expect him not to show up when there’s somebody who could so easily punch a hole through him?
>>153340826i used to stalk that blog for all of its existence before they went mad with not being cancelled, and i know how spiteful all the fucks there were against DC.even when they had that retard daniel hdr and ivan reis going there
>>153336116Cadejos is weirdly cool
>>153340370>>153340385>>153340412You know what I noticed this past month? The lack of anything represented genuine interest in Superboy Prime's redemption. Makes sense right? Any new reader interested in Superboy Prime has an incredibly small pool of comics that supports this idea of a redeemable Superboy Prime.
>>153340903I think most people can buy the idea of a young idealistic boy who grew jaded and villainous now trying to have some redemption.It's not exactly new.
>>153336102MILLENNIUM GIANTS
>>153340935Yeah it's easy when you say it like that.Less so when people read Infinite Crisis or Sinestro Corps war or Legion of 3 worlds, that Superboy Prime is a psychotic who has lost all sense of reality and humanity.
>>153340903You have a unique posting style that makes it incredibly obvious you're posting the same shit over and over
>>153336102Steve Trevor btfohonestly very bad look for the amazons they let him in
>>153340997Everyone does m8 or else you expect to believe all those threads starting with the exact same opening image from last month's issue was just coincidence.
>>153341026tfw Nubia takes him to her private chambers to punish him for breaking and entering
>>153341038Take this for example >>153341054How dumb do you think people are?
>>153339064>>153339044I'm waiting for the cool fan art of SBP with all the hot boys ...
>>153341084relax you schizo
>>153340935Man, Prime really is just Superman Jason.
Peej and Prime will fuck before the run ends
>>153336110>>153336195Waid Was A̶ ̶M̶i̶s̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ Mistaken About Those Two
>>153341174I mean if she fucked the Punisher why not
>>153341174Absolute Kino
>>153341174Prime and Peej will make amends but also Prime telling kara to abandon the name paige and embrace Karen and telling her to not hurt herself over all that happened to her, because a true hero needs to stand up to the worse and never quit always be a beacon of Hope.Because Clark never gave up on him or anyone, and without Superman to be this beacon of hope an never giving up, the worlds becomes dark.Again, this being a callback to new52 and the death of superman.
>>153336898>>153337362
>>153341054I wonder if Nubia is actually going to be in an issue
>>153341416geekshitters would praise alphabet faggotry than a good comic bookeltingville is never wrong
>>153341456isn't she on one of the covers? or was that an alt just referring to the gag here:>>153336102
>>153341416Someone translate this for me>>153341456I won't mind. I like her and think DC could do more with her.
>>153341416These guys are right.
>>153341503Yeah it was a variant for this issue
>>153339217Except it says he did bad things in this specific event
>>1533415171st comment is pretty easy, they're calling Williamson is a weak character writer.2nd comment is pointing out that Superboy Prime is still being written as a nerd whose toxic attitude stems from entitled fanboyism is basically being rewarded for being a toxic entitled fanboy by being presented as cool.
>>153341603Except that's not how the story is treating it.
>>153341618what do you think the random visions of SBP just killing everyone are supposed to represent?>>153336174
>>153339416The universe he ended up in at the end of death metal was the pocket universe that time trapper doomsday stuck him in
>>153340595Conner never died in the new timeline It's part of primes point he is using to only sorta redeem himself that most of those deaths didn't happen anymore
>>153341709Which is why the story kinda sucks ass right?
>>153341709>It's part of primes point he is using to only sorta redeem himself that most of those deaths didn't happen anymoreIt would be crazy if Prime brought up killing someone that (as far as they know) never died oncelike if his understanding of DC was now fundamentally different from what's canon. Like how he remembers Supergirl dying in COIE but she couldn't have been there in current canon
>>153339217Anon, the editorial box was a JOKE.
>>153341824It's a joke about what they're actually doing, retcon SPB into a more palatable character.
>>153336122He's saving her from a future dead in a fridge, don't act like you don't know.
>>153341709>Conner never died in the new timelineI think Conner's death was referenced in Dark Crisis Young Justice?Even if it wasn't, DC's current continuity is really just post-Crisis with a few N52 stories in canon.
>>153341824ignore him as he's a miserable little asshole
>>153341416Are these clowns even aware that the guy who turned Prime into a bad guy also redeemed him in the last story he wrote?>>153341875Character growth isn't a retcon.
>>153336195agreed. So far Prime Time has been excellent,
>>153336135man, this is 30000% Peter Parker vibes.which, mind you, is actually a good thing
>>153341709It's amazing how you people can say objectively wrong shit like this so confidently.No anon, Kon DID die in the current canon, he just came back to life later.
>>153342031I agree, this isn't character growth at all.
>>153340362Oh an homage.
>>153336152Oh shit is that Violator?
>>153336135>Prime already been to Atlantiswonder if they'll ever get him to meet Lori Lemarisor shit even bring up his Laurie
>>153342031They don't read comics, so...no.
>>153342837Lori is in space doing space things
>>153336122
>>153341709Risk still somehow ended up losing his arm in this timelineAnd then he died in Jon's book
>>153343204didn't prime rip off the other one too? did he still have one good arm when he died?
Why the hell are the Kents inviting him into their house and coming to his defense after what he did to Conner? They should rightfully despise him.
>>153343338Conner is currently fine and everyone has reboot brain fog. They were both dead just a few years ago themselves.
>>153343641Sorry but that's bad writing.
>>153343197Is lois dealing with a stupid brother she never had
>>153343841Ur just a fag, marcuck employee
>>153343946Yeah sorry anon but saying your characters are only acting this way because they have brain damage is bad writing.
>>153341174>Power Girl was Prime's waifu when he was a powerless nerd before the Crisis
>>153343641By that logic everyone should just forget what the Joker did to Jason because he's fine now.
>>153341241Prime needs to retcon punch Paige and the Williams run out of existence and bring back pre-Flashpoint Power Girl and her status quo. No sense in legitimizing a run with no redeeming qualities
>>153341656It's the ghost of Manchester Black trying to force Prime to reboot the universe again and undo his own death.
>>153344065Pre-flashpoint Power Girl was killed off in the JLU as a member of the Terrific Ten DC KO.
>>153344146I think the Terrific Ten were just quantum phantoms created as a byproduct of the chaos Darkseid is causing across all of time and space.
>>153344146>>153344172None of them truly died, just that split second that represented them
>>153336097Prime is such a dogshit character.>>153336100It's maddening how extraordinarily dull comic art looks sometimes.
>>153343841There was never any good writing.>>153344003Joker's still a villain doing villainous things. Harley Quinn is now a respected hero.
>>153338998You seem to be upset. It’s okay, anon.
>>153336122My boy is FUMBLING
>>153341800She did die in coie now and the stuff with her during the 2000s was after she was reasurected by darkseid
>>153343338Because Lois vouched for him
>>153338240>>153339129>>153340342>>153340385You people vastly overestimate the amount of people, particularly fujos and fangirls, that give a shit about Prime. You act like a couple pieces of fanart means he's suddenly an A-lister on his way to becoming household name.
>>153336097damn, I finally enjoyed a storytime from /co/.
>>153343985>Power Girl was Prime's waifu when he was a powerless nerd before the Crisis>his actions have turned her into his mortal enemyHello kino department
>>153344790of course he's popular. once a character has dedicated shizos that pop up in their threads you know they've made it
>>153336174>>153336178I like Prime and Damian being friends
>>153344861Now is prime who is probably going to redeem himself in her eyes since manchester black is involved, but this will lead to the League Schism since he is tied to the villains getting a parlay thanks to Luthor's vision from the latest JLU issue that i did today >>153344001 that is probably related to the Crisis that is coming.
>>153345120Too bad Damian rejected his friendship, does he know that Bats are allowed to be friends with multiple Supers?I bet Jason wouldn't reject his friendship.
>>153340351>he's an unrepentant mass murdererHe is trying to better, HE IS LITERALLY REPENTANT
>>153345420You Jasonfags really are cancer.You deserved to have a tranny writer ruin your character.
>>153341136That’s the point.Wonder Woman even has one. The Vanessa Silver Swan.
>>153336122Bro only has eyes for Laurie back home!
>>153336820they mentioned that time and space have been full rewritten several times so if they are still dead instead of being offscreen or not being a hero in this universe then this is more DC editorials fault at this pointof course i doubt that they will mention that prime has a way of fixing that by going home and treating the DC staff again
>>153336898I'm enjoying it in a dumb fun kinda way but they really want you to forget the specifics of Prime's character before
>>153346254It's been 20 years. He's changed.
>>153346254i just headcanon that he legit died when he punched the batman who keked and this is a new prime who just has his previous version's memorieslike everyone else it seems
>>153346621That just means he's the same Prime with a new body, makes no difference.
>>153340351Anon he is literally repentant
>>153336102He missed the obvious one: "The mascara".
>>153336122>No way fag
>>153345920Laurie got the PERMANENT DEATH from motherfucking Batkek.
So does Prime age in real time or is he on the comics sliding time scale?Does he remember being a teen in the real world (earth prime) in 1985?
>>153347680He was trapped in a timeless void for 20 years.
>>153347680He doesn't age in real time, last I remember his age was explicitly said was in Countdown.Mind you his "real world" is technically not even our real world, just a world where DC Comics exist, but there were Kryptonians and a Legion in the future.
>>153347680No, he'd be in his 50's real time now
>>153347760>Mind you his "real world" is technically not even our real world, just a world where DC Comics exist, but there were Kryptonians and a Legion in the future.back in the day Earth Prime was were all the comic writers were when they showed up in their comics.
>>153347760If we take Threeboot continuity seriously, Superboy-Prime isn’t even the last Kryptonian in his universe, since there was an enlarged Kandor full of Kryptonians in Earth-Prime’s future—and it was said to be stolen by the Brainiac of that universe too.
>>153348116Also there are Bizarros in the Earth-Prime universe, since Colossial Boy/Micro Lad’s people were seeded on their planet by Bizarro-Brainiac.
Okay but why did DC decide to make Prime beautiful and sexy?
>>153348197after making his countdown self unbelievably ugly they decided to throw him a bone here
>>153336198Witchfire? From that superpowered security guard company?
>>153348197He always was. He’s based on the pre-Crisis Superboy, who was handsome and ripped. Most versions of Kal-El are good-looking and he’s just one of them.
>>153348055Yeah, but like, it still clearly was just a fictionalized version of our world.Even more with the introduction of a Superboy-Prime.
Wasn't witchfire a hero
>>153348758Heroes can dabble in some demonic sacrifices sometimes, as a treat.
>>153345796Hate Jason all you want, but Prime likes him.
>>153348758A few years back Witchfire was killed and then The Upside-Down Man ate her soul so who knows what kind of deal restored her.
>>153336129>saying this when DC refuses to let Bruce and Selina marryHmmm...
>>153336198Is Prime an evil woman enjoyer?
>>153349516I don’t think so, he seems to like good girls who cosplay for him. I remember Saturn Queen giving him “fuck me” eyes in LO3W, but I don’t think Prime noticed.
>>153336198FUCKI GET IT NOWSHE WAS LOOKING FOR A VIRGIN SACRIFICETHAT'S WHY SHE WAS IN A COMIC BOOK STORE
Is anyone gonna storytime the Spider-Man / Superman crossover?
>>153349731The previous crossover books have been scanned, it takes a while though.
>>153336122>kids reading comics
>>153349686lmao
>>153348987Funny how a Chinese fangirl making bootleg Jason plushies on Etsy managed to create a more successful and marketable character than anything DC has made in over a decade.
That was pretty alright. KO aside DC's been in a good place lately.
prime does not deserve life.
>>153350169Hi Bart.
>>153337201>they would be strawmanned as being unreasonable for holding a grudge against SuperOC Prime Self-Insert.no. i would fully expect Williamson to make it about how he has to atone for those actions
Are Prime haters and Jason haters the same people?
>>153350220Bart is genuinely my favorite DC character, but that doesn't have anything to do with my hatred of nuPrime. This new iteration of Prime is just fanservice for powerscalers who never cared about what made him interesting in the first place. He's been sanded down into a le-funny fourth wall breaking character so people can clip him saying something meta and post it out of context. I'm sure when he interacts with YJsquad we'll have him quip something and people will laugh and nothing will happen.
>>153350403No, I don’t think so. Most Prime haters are Brazilian schizos. I think Jason haters just like other Robins better.
>>153350470The guy who "made him interesting" wrote him into this position.
>>153350480>Most Prime haters are Brazilian schizosHey i'm a Brazillian and I defend Prime!
>>153336116need actual PG interaction>>153336198Prime really needs to be immune to magic so its funnier
>>153351076According to solicits he makes himself weak to magic to prove he can be a better superman
SBP? More like SPH.
>>153336183God I can't fucking believe we're sticking with that Paige bullshit. -does a quick search- KAREN STARR IS NOW A FUCKING SHAPESHIFTER THAT TOOK OVER THE IDENTITY? FUCKING SHIT HELL.
>>153338278I know, and have personally witnessed on this very board, Jason/Stephanie fans, so I doubt this assessment.
>>153351743>Jason/Stephanie fansIt was mostly just Steph fans wanting her to be paired with someone so she could stay relevant.
>>153351432>Palmiotti and Conner pitch a Power Girl series to DC for years>DC ignores them>instead hires a writer who has no knowledge about PG whatsoever and gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want>grand return & new run wasted and character ruined because they couldn't be bothered (and was encouraged not to) do any research whatsoeverPower Girl should have stayed in limbo.
>>153336122>>153336129Damn it, Clark.
>>153336097>REIGN OF THE SUPERBOYSYES YES YES!!!! Imagine being sexually dominated by studs younger than you.
>>153351964You got an answer for everything, don't you?
I wonder if Superboy-Prime could find a way to bring Kal-L back from the dead.
>>153350710You’re right, I was overgeneralizing. Sorry Brazilanon.
>>153352615At least weekly.
>>153336097SUPERBOY SEXO
>>153351287idgi
>>153353522Many people are saying this.
>>153350710You can blame MdM for that prime and general dc hate.
>>153336116I think it is funny how we never got an explanation about Mora's OCs
>>153355013Prime was hated for nearly 2 decades since infinite crises, portraying the fans who disliked Identity Crisis as mass murderers wasn't popular, neither was him killing pregnant woman
>>153336183Power Girl needs bigger bazooms
>>153336097How do comic books even work in DC? They have a Superman comic but it can’t have stuff about his private life . So they take a new story and hire an illustrator to draw it ?Or are they original stories about Superman ? Like he licensed his name and likeness and donates the money to charity ?
>>153336097>clark “super boy prime” Kent becomes a hero>is given the opportunity to go back to Earth prime>doesn’t want too but then is told he can get a job at DC comics writing Superman …so he goes back to prime earth>next issue has “co written by Clark Kent” on the cover >the issue is about how regular Superman returns and Kid Jon Kent is back into normal continuity >also power girl now has bigger boobs in that issue
>>153355893Do they really need an explanation?They're heroes from Costa Rica, we didn't see much of them before because they were mostly operating thereBut now that the Justice League has expanded exponentially and are making full use of transporters and space ships to move assets to and from the satellite the Mora OCs have more opportunities to show up
>>153352539Gail needs to return and fix power girl and the entire karen faggotryAnd Leah has to be blacklisted from the industry and sent to the porn industry mines
>>153358409>And Leah has to be blacklisted from the industry and sent to the porn industry mines.You just wanna see her huge honkers.
Imagine if post-Crisis On Infinite Earths that Superboy Prime was written to stay on the new clutter Earth, just like Powergirl was.
>>153358538>Superboy-Prime with a leather jacket and spiked hair.I don't know...seems like a punishment, especially since Laurie and the Kents died on Earth-0 in a car accident.
>>153337502No Prime MJ's a whore
>>153338939Also, trap him in the MU possessing Paul Rabin's body for a good year or two
>>153358722Even if she put her soul into it, she can't be worse than Betty.
>>153336100>Jadzia>tranny names xerself after a literal Star Trek brain parasiteI fucking can't, man.
>>153339078Boss: DAMN CK, you look just like him. But seriously put your glasses back on, you're gonna knock over a spinner rack or scare a kid.
>>153339336>He wrote a Superboy-Prime story for the Marvel crossoverIf this didn't involve Gwenpool I will fucking riot
>>153339446>room to build up to the more abrasive side of his character rehabilitationDoes he still shit himself at the sight of speedsters
>>153339871>Get ready for a wild ride across the DC Universe as Prime is dragged kicking and screaming across past events, lost reboots, relaunches, and restarts!Could be good or cringe
>>153339078>You showed up...in cosplay? I'll give you this, CK, you're really dedicated>>153358935It was in the DC side of the crossover last month.It did not involve GwenIt was with black-suit Spider-Man
>>153340485>InsekaiA word you don't understand AND can't spell!
>>153359060I understand enough to see how this basically DC's attempt to capitalize on the genre.
>>153340485It's isekai, baka anon.
>>153336100>>153338046Or Tanga.
>>153336122He’s just like me…bros
>>153358538They probably would’ve used him as the Legion’s Superboy.
how old is prime supposed to be
>>153338576Tom Taylor was writing both characters and wanted them to cross over.It makes sense. Not replacing Damian as Jon's best bat-friend, but as an inversion of the World's Finest. It's absolutely criminal that we didn't get a Nightwing & the Super Sons book before they ruined it all.
>>153361363Young-ish.
>>153361363Younger than characters like Nightwing, but older than characters like Tim Drake.So Jason Todd-aged, DC doesn't really have many of those.
>>153352692It took a long time for them to finally interact, but man, it was so worth it.
>>153361702Not everything needs to be about Dick. Let the kids grow up and learn on their own. The only mentors they need are their fathers, not the attention whore trying to be everywhere.
>>153361702Dickfags are hypocritical. I remember they had a different reaction when Dick's brothers were hanging out with Dick's friends.
>>153364993There's a difference between mentoring an actually inexperience character, and intentionally dumbing down a character so they can play second fiddle to somebody else.
>>153344790I like him and that's enough.
>>153348987Prime is going to become a comic book writer and do an issue where Jason becomes fat
>Prime is a remorseless killerthese people did read how the killing started, right? he's in horror the whole time.he never fought any supervillains in his home universe, he had no experience on how to hold back OR experience being ganged up on by a bunch of heroes. he is also not an adult.he wasn't actually trying to instakill Pantha, but once that happened everyone around him made it a fight to the(ir) death. it's AFTER accidentally killing Pantha that he starts spiraling, and it's very easy to read his apathy as essentially the only coping mechanism he has during Infinite Crisis. he doesn't know anybody in any of these universes (except through comics), nobody knows him at all, he's got nobody actually on his side, and his power and maturity are the equivalent of handing ICBM launch codes to a kid in the middle of a tantrum.Geoff Johns effectively took a child that was given a fairytale ending in 1985 out of his "happily ever after," turned off the usual comic book suspensions of disbelief that lets characters shrug off hits they arguably shouldn't, turned on gore and limb damage, and threw hero after hero at Prime specifically to kill them. then he turns into a morality punching bag (as in, made even more comically evil just to dunk on him more) in part because fans hate being disingenuously caricatured as a strawman villain and thus hated him in Infinite Crisis. then they kinda mellow on him and nobody wants to touch him anymore, and they eventually give him his fairytale ending back.his redemption arc starts before Death Metal, BTW.also, he's been taken out of his fairytale ending again, and it's even been retconned into being a simulacrum the whole time. as far as we know Prime has no home universe to go back to anymore. i'd really like to see him interact with Power Girl both to try and make amends and because they both have the same problem of being characters without a home universe.
>>153363858What does this say?
>>153358859Jadzia was the name of the host. The symbiote itself was Dax.
>>153365750Fuck I know Prime is back, I mean obviously, but I didn't see when/how he came back. They just shat on Johns putting a bow on the character?When was this?
>>153365750Anon I'm gonna be honest, there's no human way to come up with a redemption arc for Superboy Prime. He has massacred millions and millions of people with unrepentant glee. There's no way you can be introduced to Superboy Prime through Identity Crisis and think he's just misunderstood.
>>153366340Honest to god I don't remember him killing millions. Which I fully expect he could have done, I just don't remember. Huh.
>>153366325Issue 28 of the current Superman run, start there.
>>153366362He's mainly talking about no-name Green and Yellow Lanterns.Plus I think he destroyed an Earth in Countdown, but I haven't read that shitshow in a while, so don't quote me on that.
>>153366325During Death Metal and weirdly they did as a metafictional way to defend how shitty Scott Snyder and his friends made DC comics through endless event crossovers that just kept growing into more event crossovers by saying actually you shouldn't even care if comics are bad and should touch grass. Somehow people love this as a genuine satire of scott snyder and his friends making DC comics shitty through endless rvent crossovers.
>>153366371If he means Countdown to Final, I thought it was universally agreed that doesn't count.
>>153366362Then I guess you're just lying because how else are you pulling pages and panels from infinite crisis?
>>153366393You're telling me you don't remember Superboy Prime killing people in Identity Crisis?Or Sinestro Corps war?Or Legion of 3 worlds?
>>153366364Oh are you talking about the panel where Prime says "This place isn't even real, some pocket universe" I took that to mean that Superman and Prime were meeting up in a neutral place or something set up by the Time Trapper. At the least there was nothing that his reality was fake.Unless that's in a later issue.
>>153366414>Superboy Prime killing people in Identity Crisis?uhhhh I assume you mean Infinite Crisis.But like it's been said multiple times, most of those came back.>Or Sinestro Corps war?Same, most important ones came back, the rest were just unnamed fodder, Hal and friends killed a bunch of people in that war as well.>Or Legion of 3 worlds?There was an attempt, but at the end, Prime was defeated and the deaths didn't really matter anyway.
>>153366403My guy that wasn't me.>>153366414My guy yes I remember that, but not millions. Unless I forgot. I mean not in Sinestro Corps War or Legion of Three Worlds. I think I've revisited those more recently than Infinite. Which I actually don't think I've ever revisited.
>>153365750Remorse doesn't absolve one of their actions.
>>153366452>I mean not in Sinestro Corps War or Legion of Three WorldsWhy wouldn't he have killed millions? I see what you're trying to do, trying to put the onus on me to prove he has killed literally millions of people but if anything I think the burden of proof is on you.Remember that he's a mass murderer with a silver age Superman strength level.Why would that not result in mass casualties?
>>153366447>most of those came back.Can you actually prove that?
>>153366516>Why wouldn't he have killed millions?Anon, a million is a big number, hundreds or thousands would probably be more appropiate.
>>153366516what the fuck are you talking about?This isn't a tenth level political debate. I don't remember that happening is all.
>>153366534See I knew that's where you were going with this, like I literally said so here:>I see what you're trying to do, trying to put the onus on me to prove he has killed literally millions of people But again that begs the question of why would you doubt the fact that he has killed en masse.
>>153366545I'm not the anon you were talking to, I was just saying.
>>153366529I mean, the ones that everyone usually talks about are Kon, Risk and Pantha, who all came back later.Sure Risk was killed again, but blame Taylor for that.Kal-L is the big one whose death was too big to simply ignore I feel, PG should definitely bring that up later.
>>153366540This isn't a debate about politics, it's a debate about comics.You are most certainly making the argument that Superboy Prime redemption arc is feasible while I'm saying it's downright impossible.
>>153366452>>153366550it's the schizo, don't worry about him. he's got such a retarded hateboner for Prime it makes me want to root for Prime's redemption out of sheer spite
>>153366550It doesn't if you're a different person if you're still trying to make the same point.
>>153366563Anon the fuck are you on about? All I ever said was I don't remember him killing millions.>>153366567ooooh one of those types.
take ur meds. prime deserves death.
>>153366574I don't know what that point is anon, I'm just referring to what is actually shown and said.Prime definitely couldn't have killed "millions" from just Lanterns or Legionnaires, his body count from that would be actually quite small.
>>153366567Yeah dude I do have a serious problem with the geniune entitlement that is coming from the pro-Superboy Prime faction here.It's just weird to act like ripping people apart barehanded is a moral neutral act.
>>153366606I really hope you don't read/watch Invincible for your own sake lmao
>>153366597>All I ever said was I don't remember him killing millions.Yeah we already established you're trying to make it a literal figure but if somebody said there was a million of stars in the night sky do you call them liar or do you understand how euphemisms work?
>>153366614I don't but for different reasons but even in the context of Invincible the vluktraiolence is meant to be a gorefest because that was Kirkman's central premise of subverting superheroes.
>>153366629I didn't know it was a euphemism. Because that would be a stupid place for one. And I wasn't sure if I forgot a story. So I asked for clarification. And you were a loon about it.
>>153366602But are you doubting these are mass murdering sprees?
>>153366629If we're going to be seriously talking about Prime's crimes, we should ideally talk about what we actually know and not use hyperbole or euphemisms.Specially since characters killing millions is actually possible in comics, it can create confusion.
>>153366644I mean it in the sense that they also have characters who have killed a lot working towards redemption lol
>>153366658Nah, Prime 100% did kill a bunch of people, and it's a cool part about his character that shouldn't be ignored, specially now that he's trying to do better, it's interesting.
>>153366653>I didn't know it was a euphemismI flatout explained to you it was when I pointed out how this exactly gonna try to frame your argument, of taking my usuage of millions as a literal figure as if I was literally taking a tally of the deaths.No, I immediately pointed out the usuage of millions was basically synonymous with countless as in he has killed countless peoples.
>>153366671But on the scale of Superboy Prime? The closest analogue of that I can is Black Adam which doesn't really work because Black Adam is still an antagonist to the superhero community and even then that grace kinda went out the window when he went on his mass murder spree.
>>153366689You really seem to be under the impression that there is no possible redemption for murderers, at least when they get to a certain number of kills apparently.
>>153366682Is it? because that headspace is just petty entitlement that leads to lashing out in anger.
>>153366707>But on the scale of Superboy Prime?Yeah lol, Omni-Man probably killed more innocent civilians when fighting Mark than Prime killed Lanterns during Sinestro Corps War, and that's just from the kills we see.But then he feels bad about it and the rest of the series is him trying to be better.
>>153366362>Honest to god I don't remember him killing millionswell, he didn't, really. schizos make shit up and flail autistically when it gets called out, news at 11.
>>153366689You did not explain shit to me.
>>153366708Well not everyone deserves a redemption arc and Superboy Prime is most certainly one of those characters who doesn't.
>>153366719It's part of it, but seeing Prime struggle is pretty interesting I think, he's a flawed conflicted character and that's cool.
>>153366740He doesn't feel bad though, he gloats about it actually which is the exact opposite of feeling bad.
>>153366749What struggle?
>>153366747But who decides that? He clearly wants to be better now.Would you say someone who only killed once, but doesn't regret it and still wants to kill more is more deserving of redemption over someone who, let's say, killed a thousand innocents, but now regrets it and geniuenly wants to do better?Just trying to gauge what you think matters more, number of how a character feels.
>>153366766>But who decides that?Me the reader. I read Superboy Prime from Identity Crisis to Legion of 3 worlds and I can solidly that no choosing to redeem Superboy Prime is dumb and pointless.
>>153366782>Me the reader.Wrong answer, the writer decides actually.
>>153366766>He clearly wants to be better now.No if anything he's backsliding and legitimately retreating into his fantasy world.Like that's what this really is right? A true blue honest self-insert fanfic where Superboy Prime is effectively Y/N.
>>153366785Well Geoff Johns already decided Superboy Prime was a whiny loser with some of the most talked about comics of the decade.
>>153366802And then started planting the seeds for his redemption even before Death Metal, focusing on the fact that he was a young comic nerd that made many mistakes, and never wanted things to turn out like that.Come on anon, keep up with Prime's lore.
>>153366707>But on the scale of Superboy Prime?yes, easily, and in substantial excess.one thing you've got to keep in mind is fans of the characters Prime killed often act like those characters are still dead whenever Prime is mentioned. they are still upset over a (subsequently reverted - MULTIPLE TIMES) canon death of their blorbos and act like their very much alive blorbos are still dead.that anon just inflated his kills substantially because he is absolutely desperate to make others as angry about a 20-year-old comic as they are. the most ridiculous part is it was Geoff Johns himself who gave Prime redemptive closure at the end of the Sinestro Corps War. in 2006. again - this was all completed 20 years ago.there is a bit of a persistent problem here in that the art for Infinite Crisis makes Prime look like a 50 year old slightly overweight man (see: >>153365750) so it did not properly convey that he's a young teenager. the juxtaposition of him ACTING like a child and LOOKING like an old man made people think he was just a childish adult, and hate him accordingly.
>>153366848>Sinestro Corps Warnope, i had the order backwards. this leads into the arc where he gets redeemed, but Geoff Johns was already putting the groundwork down by this point.again, SuperBOY Prime was a child ripped out of his home universe and thrown into Crisis on Infinite Earths, then ripped out again and thrown into Infinite Crisis.
>>153366747Buddy... he's been living one for years, even before they brought him back this time. The war's over. You lost.
>>153367145>he's been living one for yearHas he tho?
>>153367160Yes. He hasn't actually been the violent murderous brat he was in Infinite Crisis in years. Certain people still haven't gotten over it, but... it's been over for them for a while.
>>153349686>tries to sacrifice Prime as a virgin>doesn't work because of Laurie
>>153336207I was looking at something else, saw that cover out of the corner of my eye, and thought it was Chef.
>>153336198Hol up.If SBP can read comics shouldn't he already know what she was doing in this issue by next issue?
>>153367444>implying Prime ever got to do it before his Earth was destroyedWhy do you think he was so mad? He missed out.
>>153367563i don't think he's THAT up to date, but he does very much know he's in a comic. then again, given >>153339871 it's possible he actually is aware and gives himself the vulnerability precisely because he knows it's coming.>>153343985>>153344861>both of them are stranded outside of their home universe in a world they mostly know as observersi'm actually starting to ship them what the hell is happening to me? is this how fujo disease spreads?
When is the last time a Superman storytime got this close to the bump limit?
>>153367563If he read the solicits, yeah. But maybe he doesn't because he doesn't want to spoil himself. And he's in the comic itself, so he's a participant in the story, not an observer. Then again, who knows how in-universe comics work in DC
>>153367682Last month when Prime took over.
>>153367810>Prime as the substitute Supes substantially boosts the popularity of the book all over the internetNo wonder the Prime haters are so out of sorts. They didn't even have time to get their rabble rousing "um ackshually war crimes" tumblr blogs ready before he'd already turned into a fandom darling. Poor sods didn't stand a chance.
>>153356311Same way they have Batman toys in DC, son.Pay attention.
>>153367880It's insane how much goodwill Prime has gained for punching the batkek. This shit happened OVER 5 YEARS AGO and people still remember it so fondly that DC decided to give Prime some more spotlight.IF (big if) Williamson manages to stick the landing for this arc, Superboy Prime could go from strawman villain during big events to beloved hero with his own niche.
>>153368192It also probably helps that Dan Mora makes basically everyone look attractive, and he's on Superman right now.And to be fair to Prime... he really DID save the multiverse from the Batman who Keks.I have been quite pleased with this little arc so far. If it was yet another Superfam member doing yet another "can I fill his shoes" plot in Supes' absence I think nobody would give a shit about the book. This is both a way to explore and develop Prime outside of a crisis (...I hope) and something very fresh for a "Superman is MIA" arc. Feels a bit like World's Finest in tone, which I tend to like a lot because World's Finest is super fun while retaining the capacity to get more serious when it needs to.
>>153358935Marvel actually hates Gwenpool with the sort of burning passion you only see in Spider- characters. They would prefer that she didn't exist.
>>153369162Understandable given how they fell for the cosplayer meme again.
>>153336122Prime, you have to read Bone.
>>153366558What about Bushido, Baby Wildbeest and all the Green Lanterns he killed?All the LoSH he killed will most likely come back later though.
>>153366362He killed a good Zod and a pregnant Lana Lang and a green lantern on Earth 15. And then blew up all of Earth 15 out of spite, killing billions.
>>153336110Nice, The drawings definitely help. But I'm really enjoying this arc.
>>153370031But apparently that doesn't count because we didn't see literally billions of people.Maybe that earth was inhabited by like 3 people and also maybe that pregnant woman died of natural causes and it only looked like Superboy Prime was killing her?Because for some fucking reason I am so invested in this superboy prime redemption arc where he is already redeemed from a previous tie-in issue from 6 years ago like oh my god how cool is that?
>>153367666Give in anon
>>153368192I think it is because of how shit and hypocritical the universe/Didio and Co got.Barry rebooted the universe destroying nearly all history, and infinite crisis itself called post crisis characters "fakes".
>>153370031Dude let it go, from Prime perspective those were just fictional characters, he already proved himself against the Anti Monitor and the Batman WL saving way more lives than he ever killed.The heroes aren't completely blameless imprisoning a mentally volatile Kryptonian teen in isolation twice wasn't the solution, he very clearly needed help and this coming from someone that found post Infinite Crisis Prime annoying and whining
>>153367880It's literally one guy too which is even funnier
>>153370016But even if they did, we the readers still experienced their visceral and gory deaths and I think that ultimately matters more than some half assed dialogue about how murder isnt murder if the person is brought back to life.
>>153370207Saying it's just one guy is just rhetorical misdirection on your part. You have no way of knowing that and you're gonna find out how when this story ends and nobody cares.
>>153366819this is /co/, tourists and brazillians doesn't read comics, they follow shitty comic book blogs and shills MCU and Miles Morales.>>153367627Peej and he will do it at the end as reconciliation, trust the plan.
>>153370192I'd be very surprised if they actually acknowledge that maybe they should've tried helping Prime earlier instead of jailing him like he's the devil.The solitary GL cube was honestly cruel and unusual.
>>153365750Nah, he was deliberately mauling them.>in part because fans hate being disingenuously caricatured as a strawman villain and thus hated him in Infinite CrisisEverything Prime did in universe, was something Didio and Johns did out of it.
>>153370192You see what I'm talking about when I'm saying how performative this is?The exact same shit happened during Death Metal, all these weirdos come out of the wood acting like erasing Crisis of Infinite Earth would somehow magically fix canon to a comic book paradise for true fans of DC comics.And four years before that was the exact thing with Metal and acting like that will magically fix canon by reintroducing post-crisis survivors.It's the same shit everytime and it's not coincidence this type of posts usually show up for Scott Snyder and his friends.I'm beginning to think these guys are nothing but industry plants, hacks who get credit for some other guy's high concept idea.
>>153370192To be fair, the Prime that was defeated and humiliated in IC wasn't ready for any type of redemption, while during Countdown him sperging out like nobody in the multiverse ever did was precisely the point. The stars had to allign in a way nobody could predict 20 years ago to allow the current redemption arc Prime is undergoing and even now the risk of him embracing his murderhobo instincts is always present
>>153370228All the complaining for the past two Superman threads have all read like they came from the same poster
>>153370325Yeah but it probably wasn't you stupid fuck, people were probably pointing out the obvious problem of trying to redeem the irredeemable. Also you guys have been annoying for the entire time since then, constantly spamming the same thread of trying to get people write superboy prime smut with vixen, katana, and Zatanna.Only an astroturfed campaign can get away with this shit.
>>153370313>Prime is undergoing and even now the risk of him embracing his murderhobo instincts is always presentBecause the status quo is a massive problem, and talentless writers have "skeletons in the closet" bonner.Now, the case of Superior Spider-Man, whether you like it or not, is kinda emblematic. I find it absurd that they made him a villain again with a deus ex machina magic, because realistically, the character had evolved so much that it was no longer possible to use him as a villain in that state.Prime can become an assassin again at any time in the wrong hands.
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>>153366848>ACTING like a child and LOOKING like an old man made people think he was just a childish adult, and hate him accordingly.It was deliberately, Alexander Luthor stopped being a twink
>>153370359Which is why i feel that the only way to stop this is have Prime sacrificing himself through his own Death of Superman Arc, it is a good way for him to go out with a bang and prove that he is a hero.Also, DiDio and harras aren't there anymore to fuck over prime.
>>153370400He already did that in Death Metal Secret Origin.
>>153370348has the primehater schizo finally snapped? read on for more>Dan Mora...Joshua Williamson...Superboy Prime...I will destroy you all>reeeeeeeeee>dies of a heart attack
>>153370591>Prime redemption feels like a whiplash>You are a schizo reeee.What causes somebody to be like this? It is like DiDio.
