"Clayface tells the terrifying descent into hell of a promising Hollywood actor who has become a monster driven by revenge. An intense story that explores the loss of identity and humanity, the ravages of toxic love and the dark side of scientific ambition."Trailer drops today
>>153340294cool!
New 'jak
>>153340294Ngl I'm more excited for this than Supergirl
>>153340768*for Supergirl
>>153340294Hope he ends up looking close to his BTAS design.
>>153340996He doesn't look like it on the poster
>>153340294So this is just Darkman mixed with The Substance, right?
>>153340996this is what he looked like in creature commandos, I assume the movie is a prequel or that's another clayface
>>153341508Probably.Iirc The Fly was said to be a big inspiration.
>>153340294Clayfeces
If he can take on any form why can’t he just go back to being an actor?
>>153342042They probably view him like AI/Deepfake stuff where some people are upset that he might take jobs away from them and others want to cut a deal with him to use their likeness
>>153341579pretty sure it's a prequel, though Gunn also confirmed Clayface didn't die in CC
>>153342042My guess is he doesn't have control over it until after destroying his relationships and committed a series of horrible murders...at which point he'd be more likely to use his power to evade capture and engage in general supervillanry.
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2047024768365285698trailer up
>>153343309Pretty excited for it. I do wonder if they’re going to show off his clay body at all.
will batman appear on it
>>153343448A scooper said that at least in the current cut no, he's not in it.
>>1533402944K trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIfpL3mgkFk
>>153340294Is this villainous actor Harry Potter?
Looks really really good visually at leastHope it doesn't blow it
>>153343433Oh I'm sure they will they're just saving it
>>153343672This looks awesome
>>153344278No, that is Tom Rhys Harris.
>>153342042in the comics the reason is because everyone stops hiring him. they don't know he can transform, but whenever he auditions for a role they view his performances as soulless. i'm guessing that's why mike flanagan is trying to do a whole analogy of clayface representing AI in this film
This feels like the sorta movie you make like 20 movies into a cinematic universe and not as the 3rd. Sony doing villain solo movies didn't work, Joker 2 was a massive bomb etc... I don't see this working
>>153344816sony is completely inept at doing comic book movies and joker 2 didn't work because the director sucksim not saying clayface is going to be good, but might as well go into this without any biases and be pleasantly surprised if it is good
>>153344816Imagine blaming Joker 2 on the fact that it was a solo movie and not the rape lol
>>153344816At least Clayface is actually connected to the rest of the universe, and with the constrictions of The Batman looming over the DCU, having a smaller film introduce this version of Gotham isn't a bad idea.Besides that, having Clayface be one of the first films does help to sell the initial promise of this franchise: unlike the MCU, the films will be allowed to vary in tone and genre.
>>153342042Basil didn't because he liked being a monster and Matt didn't becaue he's not an actor in the comics
>>153344938rags status?
>>153344957it also makes the world feel more "lived-in" as opposed to gradually building to a super world like the MCU. rather than Iron Man kickstarting an age of heroes, we're already placed in a world familiar with superheroes. smaller projects on various villains and heroes is a great idea for that
Give me the full monster form>>153344816SONY's didn't work because they never actually made villain driven movies. They bent over backwards to make crap apologetic anti-heroes
>>153340294>>153343672>>153343309>body horror kinothis looks pretty great
>>153345879This is his best design but I hope his design changes frequently
>>153344980https://youtu.be/fxAVst1ELOk?is=7a2X45xSptJT433D
>>153340294>the ravages of toxic loveThey're keeping him gay for this adaptation?
>>153347214Apparently he falls in love with the black girl from the trailer, who is the scientist who develops the serum
This actually looks great
expect his DCU design (this one) to be a little different from his creature commandos appearance because, like Rick Flag Sr and Weasel, it's not a 1:1 transition from animation to live action
>>153340294actually interested for this, which I haven't been able to say for any recent cape flicks
>>153347959Its hard to fuck up a Clayface design. So long as he's a walking biomass, people will be fine
Sick lines they could have for this movie:>"You know I used to be somebody....Now I'm everybody..."
If it doesn't have Batman or Joker show up at the end I won't watch it in theaters.
>>153348514He can looks like a walking turd
>>153347372>black girl scientist
>>153344957>unlike the MCU, the films will be allowed to vary in tone and genreThe MCU has already done horror projects, so DC is once again late to the party on this shit.
I haven't paid attention to whether they want to tie this into the Patterson films or whatever the fuck James Gunn is doing, but I like the tone so I hope it's the former. Gotham should be weird and creepy, and this allows them to inject more sci-fi and supernatural elements that effect so much of the rogues gallery. That was missing from the first film.>>153344816Joker 2 didn't work because it spit in the fans' faces. If Clayface tries to be genuine about making an interesting take on the character it should be alright.
>>153349855>*snaps fingers at you>*smirkswho you think got yall 2 space!!!1!.
>>153351114>If Clayface tries to be genuine about making an interesting take on the character it should be alright.It's going to be about ai with a joker stairs moment
>>153351361>a joker stairs momentso its gonna be the reddit of the redditest wicked! i cant wait!
>>153345631Feige retconning the TV shows out of continuity killed the MCU for me. It really felt like a fully fleshed out world, with Agents of SHIELD being the glue that connected to everything. Then it felt empty.
>>153351114This is Gunn.
>>153351402The Netflix shows are canon again
>>153342042>it’s like tensing a muscle, I can’t do it for long
>>153351413There were way more shows than just those, anon.
>>153351416Clayface should be able to turn into something for as long as he wants
>>153345631I'm with you. People criticized Superman 2025 for already having more "developed" stuff like Lex and his inter-dimensional portal technology but I think jumping right into it was the smart way to go. Not to mention WB probably doesn't want to risk having to "build up" a universe from scratch just to have it crash on them again before it goes anywhere.
>>153351402>Feige retconning the TV shows out of continuity killed the MCU for meoutside of the first season of daredevil the TV shows were complete ass
>>153342042Maybe they're gonna add in a lil bit of Clayface three and make him a clay vampire who was to consume people's mass to stay alive and pretty.
>>153351114It's Gunn's DCU. Pattison Batman is too grounded unfortunately. Also we can have various tones for the DCU. That's kinda the whole point and contrast between Gotham and Metropolis
>>153340294This feels like something that should be in the Battinson timeline rather than the mainline DCU
>>153351402Literally everything post Endgame does not matter anymore. Disney behind closed doors, and everyone you ask in the industry, acknowledges phases 4 and 5 were failures. Reports even say they never wanted to ship out Cap 4 or Ironheart, but had to. Openly joked about it at parties too. They're rereleasing Endgame in theaters with newly shot footage to "Better segue into Doomsday". That's the death kiss of the past 5 or 6 years of failure right there.>>153351505It's similar to Invincible, Venture Bros, or Dispatch. I get wanting to introduce casuals to shit, but just embracing a superhero world has its benefits. We all know Superman, so it made sense just to jump in a fleshed out world. Batman has that luxury too. However Flash, and a new WW, could benefit from new origin films
>>153342042Looking normal is an exercise for Clayface, it's not his default appearance. He's prone to anger, and when agitated the "act" can slip
>>153352270The Battinson timeline should be mainline DCU
>>153352270>>153352406Pattison is too grounded
>>153352637Kinda grounded, but I think you could transition to something more fantastical over time. A horror movie like Clayface seems like a good way to make that transition. The circumstances of his transformation may not be realistic, but his reaction to it can be grounded.
I wonder if that one shot was inspired by this scene from Samsara, the 'clay face performance. Seems similar doesn't it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MLIcnua1is
>>153344816The problem with Sony was that they turning villains into generic anti-heroes when only Venom and Morbius fit into that and choosing characters like El Muerto or Madame Web.
>>153344816It's not really just a sony thing. The whole "Dark Universe" thing from Universal really shit the bed too. Everyone remembers the over the top mummy movies with brendan frasier. Nobody thinks about the tom cruise mummy. MCU was sheer luckshitting, landing just the right hits at just the right timing.I agree about Clayface though. At the bare fucking minimum, they need to go back and make a way better trailer. Right now you can't even tell what the fuck the movie's about unless you already know the character.
>clayface>supergirl>lanterns on earth>not a wonder woman storyDC comics will never have a cinematic universe.
>>153352637>Pattison is too groundedNigga he’s the only Batman that survived a bomb blast to the face.
>>153353112*they were
it looks good, comes off like a proper horror film, batman villains are more complex than any other heroes villains in that they can star in their own stand alone films, if this is successful maybe there might be a poision ivy, mr. freeze, scarcrow film
>>153344816batman villains have way more depth than spiderman villains, clayface could have been a stand alone horror story nothing to do with batman in an alternate reality
>>153353137Tom King ruins everything
>>153351402>It really felt like a fully fleshed out world, with Agents of SHIELD being the glue that connected to everythingqrd? I never watched AOS as it felt like low-budget slop and last I heard they were introducing Inhumans to segue into their own show and we all know how that wentI'm not saying low-budget itself is bad because the Netflix shows had that too and yet Daredevil is prime television, but AOS didn't have that same vibe for me. I'd love to hear about its worldbuilding or how it connected everything together
>>153352247>Pattison Batman is too grounded unfortunately.>Also we can have various tones for the DCUironic
>>153340294Creepy KINO
>>153351114>Joker 2 didn't work because it spit in the fans' facesJoker 2 didn't work because it was bad qualitatively. Retards completely fucking missing the point of the first film and then being angry that the second film also did the same thing was not the issue.
>>153350456Gotta disagree there. The MCU flirts a bit sometimes with different genres, but overall they're just coats of paint before ultimately devolving into the common capeshit tropes.
>>153352270Iirc it did start as part of the Battinson universe before being transfered into the DCU continuity.
>>153351505>>153352276I agree but I hate this approach with Lanterns. We’re just starting the universe with a young Superman to boot but Hal is already old and on his way to being replaced/killed in his first project.
>>153353095a little similar yes
>>153354214If The Brave and the Bold ends up being like it's initial pitch we're also looking at an older Batman. However it's been said the film has changed quite a bit since it's announcement so who knows.
>>153354169give the overarching thematical similarities between Wonderman, Loki Season 2, and Winter Soldier
>>153355604Wonder Man is really one of the few MCU projects that doesn't devolve into the franchise's formula. Outside of that, a lot of the projects sell themselves as tapping into other genres but still rely on big final action pieces and don't allow for a unique style throught the film. Like sure, Winter Soldier has homages to political thrillers, Ant-Man to heist films and Black Widow to spy movies, but callimg them full on genre films is disingenous.
Everything you listed is exactly what separates actual prestige television from whatever else is out there pretending it’s “deep.”These MCU projects are doing something people still weirdly refuse to admit out loud in the fact that they’re not just superhero content anymore, they’re structurally mature, thematically dense narratives that actually respect intelligence and how their audience matured past the trash that was the infinity saga. DC, on the other hand, keeps getting treated like it’s profound for repeating the same surface-level edginess and calling it philosophy. It’s retarded.These things (Idk about winter solider because I haven’t watched it, I don't care about Bucky.) are doing the heavy lifting here. It’s not just “good for Marvel” anymore, it’s legitimately one of the most conceptually ambitious things the genre has produced. It’s not trying to be dark, it just is because it understands what it’s actually talking about. That’s what people miss when they reduce the modern MCU to capeshit discourse. They lack the comprehension and intelligence to get it.Unlike DC which tries too hard, the MCU has clearly evolved past the Infinity Saga era into something that’s actively growing with its audience instead of freezing them in a perpetual childhood. If Clayface ends up being the big DC answer to that (which it won’t, that’s the fucking truth) , fine. We’ll see. But right now it feels like it’s trying to compete in a conversation it already lost the vocabulary for.
>>153356102A new copypasta?
>>153356102To be fair you have to have a VERY high IQ to understand Marvelslop….
>>153356102>the MCU has clearly evolved past the Infinity Saga era into something that’s actively growing with its audience instead of freezing them in a perpetual childhood.Counterpoint: Doomsday
>>153356102I smell Reddit.
>>153352151>Matt accidentally kills scientist gf while BLEACHED-ing her>loses even more of his shit (especially if he needed her to make something that kept him from going completely to shit)>starts going full Vampire's Kiss>finds mannequinfu
>>153354169>but overall they're just coats of paint before ultimately devolving into the common capeshit tropesmost of the time but I wouldn't say that's true of werewolf by night or the winter soldier movie and thunderbolts didn't really feel much like a capeshit movie either
>>153353112The truth is neither Venom nor Mobius fit into that mold
>>153353148You know, I remember him getting dropped by 12 gauge and needing to dose venom(?) to get up more than that scene, but you're right.
>>153342042He wants revenge on the people who ruined his face in the first place.
>>153353137They're in a odd spot because Gal Gadot's Wondy was popular, but her last movie didn't do well and they shitcanned a female director because she was insulting the Warner execs' notes. Thus they wanted to do a show without Wonder Woman to still use her world but...not her to avoid another casting shitstorm like with Henry Cavill getting replaced.
>>153358381Gadot's Israeli, there's no better time to replace her. The left openly hate them and those on the right who aren't evangelical heretics are starting to do the same.
>>153358535It goes to show ya….The left was right this whole time, they’ve always been right. They are heroes. I hope for peace for Iran. I hate that ugly bitch. >>153358381If you support any Jewish actor you’re a monster.
>>153349855Kys racist.
>>153344816joker 2 was sabotaged by the director
>>153357144>Meets femclayface in the eventual sequel>Makes a clayby>Looksmaxxer chud gets his happily ever after?
>>153360585Joker 2 is the Freddy got Fingered of our generation
>>153360008disingenuous
>>153340294Anyone else think they should’ve had Black Mask in this movie, and have him be Clayface’s creator? I mean, he owns a cosmetics company, fits perfectly.
Assuming its not half-assed "we're afraid to adapt the source material" bullshit like Joker, this has promise. In fact I'm glad casuals are being made aware of an awesome Bat bad guy like Clayface
>>153362135The film was born since Mike Flanagan was actually a fan of th character, unlike Todd Phillips who was vocal about not being a comic guy and only naming his film Joker n order to get funding.
>>153361246Seems more like a Sequel thing. Villain vs Villain.
If you look closely at the end, the "bathtub" is covered in skin. That's not a bathtub. That's all him.
>>153349386I grew up with the BTAS Clayface, and still don't know a whole lot about Basil or whoever else has had the title. What am I missing?
>>153365908The BTAS episode is actually what this movie is mainly inspired by based on what Gunn has said
>>153344816All the Sony villain movies sucked because they had no purpose, they only existed to make money using the spiderman IP without actually using spiderman. Also they were just soulless and everything about them was completely raped by studio execs.This movie cost 40 million to make, a capeshit movie with a 40 million dollar budget is insanely cheap. Even if this movie flops with 100 million... It already doubled it's budget and more.Also clayface will actually have a purpose, it'll introduce us to gotham for the eventual Batman movie and it was completely creator made with basically no studio intervention at all. It's a movie that someone had a vision wanted to make and got the free reins to make a fucking body horror film using a Batman villain.
>>153356102The desperate existence of Doomsday completely shits on your very weak argument
>>153365962>The BTAS episode is actually what this movie is mainly inspired by based on what Gunn has saidNot surprisedIn the comics there's like 4 or 5 clay faces and they're all convoluted messes and basically just fucking terrible. Clayface is one of those villains like Mr Freeze that were complete dumpster fires until BTAS came in and actually made them into competent characters.
>>153365962watch as /co/ pretends to be original true fans of the one true pre-BTAS Clayface and how the modern audiences are inferior for only experiencing BTAS or Arkham City
Would you watch the Condiment King movie?
would be pretty funny if they did the "Clayface tries to be a hero with Batgirl's help but Batwoman just kills him" storyline
>>153365962that's neat. It'd be cool if they kept that weird sound effect they used for his transforming.
>>153340294how has no one made a onions-face edit of this
>>153370072Go to the Sharty and ask them.
>>153365019I hope they keep up that aesthetic and don't pussy out by having him start looking like actual clay.
>>153369403That will be The Batman 2
>>153369403>Falling Down, but the restaurant scene is the entire movieSure, why not.
>>153369403>>153373485>it resonates too much with the male audience>make a sequel that's a humiliation ritual
>>153340768>>153340786>Ngl I'm more excited for Supergirl than Supergirlwat
>>153349592McFarlane did it!
>>153351402but Agents of SHIELD is shit with only a few good episodes
>>153377227>the best marvel show is shitI didn't think the other shows were that good, but you must really hate the rest kek.
>>153358381Skeleton Woman was popular?!
>>153340294>movie ends with Amanda Waller talking to Clayface in prison
>>153377395>i-it's good because i like it!!!hmmm, nah
>>153377476No one said that, anon. AoSHIELD is objectively the best show. Therefore, if you think it's shit, then everything else is worse than shit.
>>153377680So you will explain why it's good or you will keep begging for (You)s with a very weak bait?
>>153377771I never said it was good. I said it was the best.
>>153377422It was the DCEU's 2nd most profitable film after Aquaman. People liked it.
>>153353112Sandman was an anti-hero, you just don't read comics.
