>Mark, I murdered your baby for my own selfish reasons but it's YOUR fault and I'm the victim here!
why didn't they just say she had a miscarriage from stressWhy did they actively make eve the bad guy while trying to pin the blame on mark?
Robert Kirkman is a huge male feminist cuck, in case that escaped your notice.
>>153340709Women want to have their cake but eat it too.For you to worship their act of filicide
>its yet another incels argue about fictional relationships and abortion thread
>>153340792the thing isThat's literally narcissism
>>153340845There you go
>>153340844>only incels are against prenatal murder
>>153340682Her being able to have an abortion should be impossible thanks to parents passing down superpowers is canon.
>>153340844>Media has no impact on the masses that consume it
>>153340845Women moment.
>>153340927Are you implying an off-screen abortion being mentioned in a show full of gratuitous violence, murder and gore is going to impact people?
>>153340985Still waiting for a story reason why hybrid Mark blood can’t be cut by a laser but Eve somehow abort a bullet proof fetus.
>its yet another incels argue about fictional relationships and abortion threadIt's just like you troons have been saying, representation matters. If we see harmful stereotypes and disgusting social norms presented in our media, we have a moral imperative to push back against it to move towards a more fair and inclusive world.Don't cry now that we're doing it better than you.
>>153341052Mark didn't have his powers until his later teens
>>153341052I find it retarded no one used Eve aborted baby for cloning.
>>153340896>parents passing down superpowers is canon.It's established in season 1 that Mark's powers showed up after puberty.
>>153340682That's not what happened at all, did we watch the same episode?
>>153341052The fetus is 25% viltrumite, also why should a fetus be as strong/resistant as a post-pubertal superhuman?
>>153341146It was literally just so Kirkman could force cheap soap opera relationship drama into his comic, he didn't put more thought into it than that. But he still wanted Invincible to have a kid for THOSE soap opera plotlines so the writing ends up pretty quickly getting her pregnant againt.
>>153340844Found the foid lol
>>153340682>oh no i'll have to knock you up again and make you even fatterTrust the plan. The Markitect is laying the foundation like he's laying his fat girlfriend.
>>153340886Abortions are fine if the """baby""" is still just a clump of cells, or if one or more of the parents are brown.A white person having an abortion after the baby developed a sufficiently advanced nervous system is legitimately bad and should be banned though, unless the child will turn out retarded or something.Any "conservative" who says otherwise is a cuckservative or brown.
>>153341109Do you also fight against other morally wrong things depicted in fiction or just abortion specifically? Do you push back against abortions depicted in other media as well or just this specific one?
Mark, I creampied in my own butthole
>>153340736Hes actually into human depopulation. Normalized abortion is a big part of it.Hes great when he has editors to yard wrangler him like other great writer, eg Ditko and Claremont.
>>153341215Using Eve abortion for a cloning plot was foreshadowed but went no where.
>>153341270Don't try to distract from the point chud.
This abortion happened nearly 15 years ago in the source material, you should've complained back then
>>153341370retarded newfag
>>153340682Can't Mark just pump another baby into her and then tell her not to get this one killed?
>>153341265YOU'RE a clump of cells
>>153341265A life in development is a life in development, whether it's a matter of weeks old or several years. Putting quotes around "baby" doesn't change that.
>>153341410Nobody cares outside of chriscucks and brown people, but I repeat myself
>>153340682So this being a superhero universe does a mad scientist brings the fetus back to life or something?
>>153341396He literally does
I hate how every woman in the show hate Mark for shit that's completely out of his control. They are all so irrational and extremely retarded.
I'm not even anti-abortion, but having one behind your partner's back while he's at war and then letting him blame himself for it makes you a gigantic piece of shit.
>>153341410Until the quickening, it has no soul.
>>153341451Would be more interesting then basically everything after this moment.Angstrom levy rebuilding himself into having viltrumite body and even powerful psychic abilities then going to war against the viltrumites would have been a peak holy shit moment. Even Kubo redid his work to make it better in tybw. And we've seen hes not above changing things
>>153340896Only viltrumites
>>153340682It's another episode of why didn't Eve ask Cecil to put her super baby in an artificial womb episode and have her cake and eat it too
>entire episode is mark having panic attacks at the thought of the viltrumites coming to earth to fuck shit up as revenge for him destroying viltrum>"wtf why is mark blaming himself???"
>>153340844I have no issues with borties', but this is clearly written by someone who wants you to think they are controversial and tragic, not just... A thing you have to do sometimes.
>>153341987Women want it to be both so bad.
>>153341370Everyone did you retard.
>>153340927>Media has no impact on the masses that consume it"If you get your morals from a cartoon, you're an idiot"-Peter Griffin
>>153341983shills should lurk more>>153341510that's just how women are in real lifethey don't understand cause in effectif you are a man and exist, it's your fault
>>153341410The seed you spill into your sock four times a day is a life in development
>>153341983/pol/tards understand the context they just choose to ignore it so they can pretend to be upset.Its what happens when you grow up fatherless.
>>153340682
>>153342062i see women are still being retarded and don't understand why roe v wade was tossed out by the supreme court>>153342053dead babies don't grow up with any parents
>>153342094>everyone who i disagree with is a womandamn what's it like to be so retarded?
>>153342021>that's just how women are in real life>they don't understand cause in effectAwfully bold of someone to talk like an authority on a subject and use a phrase like "cause in effect". But I guess it is a doggy dog world for all intensive purposes.
>>153342130nice strawmanmaybe in a few years you'll graduate to "no, u"
>>153342020The cartoon that spends 80% of its run time preaching to the audience squeaks about learning lessons from cartoons.Makes it seem like their just scumbags who dont want to be called on their shit when people telm then to eat a dick when their lesson is dissected and found to be retarded or morally wrong.
>>153342160>"cause in effect".>doggy dog worlddalit please
>>153342170you literally can't address the argument yourself. all you do is deflect. you couldn't even say it was wrong for any reason, you just say whoever left the meme is a woman.kill yourself. :)
>>153342189Anons like you are a diamond dozen.
>>153342173>same posting format>several grammatical errors in each post>believes women should be punished for having sex with anyone who's not himSo...how's the weather in Bangladesh, Rajeet? Find a good pooing spot in the street?
>>153342245i see we have graduated to the no uingamazing, everyonethe baby can finally crawl
>>153342264Watch out for trains, Rajeet, I know how dangerous they are to your kind
You think they ever told Terra about how her mother killed her first child?
>>153340682Honestly it's better for a baby to be aborted than having to be born and their parents not be able to care for it People in heaven can take care of the baby
Women should be treated like children.Protected, well taken care of, put over my knee when she acts up, given an allowance and allowed to go play lawyer and scientist and novelist after her chores or done. And like a cheap whore, ruthlessly fucked into submission till shes left passed out and cumfilled or facedown ass up asleep with a content smile on her face. Anything else is foolishness.
>>153342416lollmaoThey should be treated like war criminals>>153342412Eve had every government resource available to her, GDA or no. There is no excuse.
>>153342461Did a woman redeem, saar?
>>153342548Billions apparently.
Imagine cecil reaction to losing another viltrumite with potentially actually having hax.
>>153341270>Heh, you chuds only care about abortion and not about—Why should we have to take on all the problems with the world at once? This one is challenge enough.
>>153340845WELCOME TO WOMEN
>>153343191>WOMEN MUST CARRY THE FETUS TO TERM NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES>okay but if the fetus has severe, debilitating health issues or the mom can't afford to care for the baby should we maybe help?>FUCK NO THAT'S COMMUNISM SHE CAN PULL HERSELF UP BY HER OWN BOOTSTRAPS
>>153343608>he doesn't know
How did a Viltrumite fetus lose to a coat hanger
>>153343663Powers aren't inherent on Viltrumite hybrids, they develop later in life.The embryo couldn't snap the hook with its little embryo stubs.
>>153343689Good news. California has made 13 month abortions legal.
>>153340682>>153340709The only one trying to pin the blame on mark is mark.
A-HA! So she's the murderer!
>>153340682Don't worry, in the next season Mark will return to hell and see that aborted fetus being torture for all of eternity
>>153340682as a bigger girl i like that Mark says he has no problem that Eve is fat now :)
>>153343689>anyone who says abortion is le bad sboild be forced to care for a down syndrome childyeah it must of been tough for your parents
>>153344190you had me gasping
>>153342062>le body is le castle >legally and philosophically illiterate award
>>153340682Cool story, Mark!>>153344190jej
>>153340682>aborts Mark's baby >cheats on him>was ran through before she ever dated MarkWhy are western writers like this?
>>153341987>A thing you have to do sometimes.>No woman has ever raised her dead lover's child out of love for them both.
>>153340682Why did she abort, though? Was her life in danger? And the baby was conceived with love and consent lol. Her excuse that she was alone and scared is absurd. She could’ve gone to Debbie or her mom and gotten some support during the pregnancy. Also, Mark’s reaction why is it so passive? Show some emotion, be a little mad, fly away. Add some complexities to the story man.
>>153340682Women are still completely fucking insane on the abortion question.It is what it is.
>>153341320>The hell episode is what happens when Kirkman has zero wranglersSuch is fate
>>153344684To accept what they're actually doing would be to risk social ostracization and claim responsibility for something. Of course they're crazy about it. There is no benefit to actually being treated like an independent person when it comes to this because it means they're irresponsible baby killing whores if it's not some retarded private ownership rationalization.
>>153342397No.>>153342412Sea Salt and Debbie do exist.
>>153344546Kuckman is a fat NTR enjoyer who only has a wife and kids because The Walking Dead made gangbusters; he's also a Spider-Man writer. He's always gonna be that guy
>>153340709Because Kirkman has been longhoused since the late 2000s
>>153344190>must ofYeah it must of
>>153344719>woman should be punished for having sex with men who aren't meWhat every anti-abortion argument on here boils down to
>>153345018>schizo arguing against statements never made
>>153342416>Women should be treated like children.Protected, well taken care And who is gonna give them well care? Men sure aren't
>>153340736Agreed.>>153341370People did, but more people got mad about Telia's pointless brother than abortion because they wanted to fuck slampig Eve
>>153340896Mark was a normal human until late high school
Viltrumites are disgusting creatures. That red-haired earthling woman was right to abort it.
>>153345081>Changed his name from Thaeduwitz to ThaedusHmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>153345033You just seem to have a lot of opinions on something you don't have a lot of experience with. I guarantee if the fat chick you work with at McDonald's let you cum in her and she ended up pregnant you'd be the first in line at the abortion clinic with her. It's easy to have these opinions when you're not the one in the situation and likely never will be.
>>153340709Because the whole point of the story is to dramamaxx, goremaxx, and tropemaxx.
>>153342416What was her name, anon?
>>153340682Eve did nothing wrong
>>153345112Oh, the irony.
>>153345081>y'all can just call me Thaedus. Uncle Thaedus. No relation.
I've missed the impotent REEEEEing at female cartoon characters and women broadly since Amber faded out of the storyline.
>>153344190knew i'd get this reply as soon as i clicked post
>>153345178you're not fitting in
>>153340709>From stressHer entire life is stress. Then she comes home to absorb nuggets of compassion and wisdom from her insane father.
>>153345196With Woman Haters Anonymous? Heaven forbid.I'm just here to mock your sad squalling.
>>153345178I kinda hate the hoes in this series outside Mark's mom and fem chud.>What about Monster Girl and Fem Jacket?Neutral at best; even with Amanda's hoeing around. Rudy just sucks more dick than her.
>>153345234like, these "memes" are the shit normie reddit faggots think memes are like
>>153345256Hahaha, now you are going to gatekeep 4chan at me? Lemme go pop some corn, this should be priceless.>normie reddit faggotLMAO.
>>153340682This episode instantly killed my love for the show
>>153345284See?
>>153345166I don't think that means what you think it does
>>153341265It's too bad that we live in a civilization built by Christianity and you'll never be on the receiving end of your own psychopathy.
>>153345355>it's too bad my superior compassionate civilization won't make you sufferameritards be like
>>153345355>we live in a civilization built by ChristianityWe don't live in a civilization built by Christianity we live in a civilization that uses Christianity to shame and attack people viewed as lesser, if we were genuinely wanting to be good Christians the concern for the baby wouldn't end once it left the womb
>>153345447You're talking about how much you want to kill kids, so yeah. Also,>conflating my own personal views with my description of societies' valuesDo thirdies really?
>>153345452>muh republicans don't care about people after they were bornAll of the leaders of the west from the roman empire to the first world war were Christians and the Catholic church is responsible for 40% of all charity on earth.
>>153345531And look where thats gotten us
>>153345550Things were going pretty swell before Jewish bankers took control of everything.
>>153341987>not just... A thing you have to do sometimes.abortions are evil and should be banned for white people, browns can get oneAnd either way, you wouldnt need to get one if youd just not have sex. There you go, now you never need another one ever again
>>153342461you need to remember that most of those are non whites being aborted, so, whatever
>>153345687>>153345018
>>153343167holy shit youre right. Cecil should have found out and gone apeshit over eve killing her baby cause muh feelings
>>153345550you mean after the french revolution, ww1 and ww2 where godless jews won?
>>153345763>women bad>jewsjewsjewsjewsjewsWhat's it like to be a caricature?
>>153345836you always call me names but never a liar
>>153345531The Catholic Church provides charity for everyone at all stages of life. I've personally met anti abortion activists and most of them literally do not care about the baby as soon as it's born and have no opinions on the horrid state of the foster system. They're literally just obsessed with babies.
>>153345871>you might be correct that the church cares for people after they're born but I've met my strawman tons of times, dude trust!How compelling
>>153345952>I haven't seen it so it doesn't exist
>>153345952The kind of people who protest outside of abortion clinics are not big fans of the Catholic Church, at least not in the US.
>>153345967Show me the MAJORITY of pro lifers saying they LITERALLY do not care about the baby as soon as it's born. If you cannot do this I'll have to assume that you're trolling me and I'll stop responding.>>153345990I'm aware that American protestants are retarded but Catholic doctrine is also anti-abortion.
>>153343608>Murder this child because it fails to meet our Eugenic ubermensch standards comradeOof, not the kill shot you thought it was Frau Sanger
>>153344190HA! Gottem!
Eve is a mistake. Still better than Duplihoe and show Amber at least
>>153345763>t. faggot that worships a dead Jew every Sunday
>>153346012>Show me the MAJORITY of pro lifers saying they LITERALLY do not care about the baby as soon as it's born. If you cannot do this I'll have to assume that you're trolling me and I'll stop responding.kek you're funny
>>153346126My fedora... it's... tipping... on its own...>>153346127>no responseI accept your concession, bye.
>>153346012>Show me the MAJORITY of pro lifers saying they LITERALLY do not care about the baby as soon as it's born. the post was about activists, not the majority of people
>>153341987>Safe legal and rareThey just gave up the ghost and called it what it was, contraception. Although, that's not quite right either, sinc either forms of contraception prevent the baby form even being conceived and nullify any controversy. This has nothing to do with morals, it's all about convenience and a crippling fear of commitment. Our world is so poisoned by leftoid materialism that anything which ties you to a place or people outside of a political party is evil counterrevolutionary activity that needs to be squashed.
>>153343167Kind of insane that show version of Cecil doesn't just recover the fetus and have his guys try to clone it.
>>153346148My deepest apologies. Show me the MAJORITY of pro life activists saying they LITERALLY do not care about the baby as soon as it's born*
>Hahaha, now you are going to gatekeep 4chan at me? Lemme go pop some corn, this should be priceless.>normie reddit faggot>LMAO.You're a slave to your own outrage
>>153346099Rae was the only chick we actually liked and they cucked her out of her well earned relationship to Rex. Utterly disgusting
>>153346012>I'm aware that American protestants are retarded but Catholic doctrine is also anti-abortion.That is my point. The claim that the pro-life lobby is full of hypocritical retards is based in reality, even if this fact is not in itself a justification for abortion.
>>153346167Why do women without children scare you so much, anon?
>>153346205When did people forget the best way to show you don't care is to not respond at all?Oh wait, they do care.
>t. faggot that worships a dead Jew every SundayI like how the Atheoids think they're going to make a comeback, only to give everyone a refresher on why internet atheism is so pathetic and annoying.
>>153346239The ironing.
>>153346232Women's without children and those who murder them for convenience are tow very different thing fag boy, and I don't appreciate you trying to smush them together for your own cynical attempt at a political gotcha
>>153346251He's not wrong, tho
>>153346251the jew on a stick will be back any day bro just hang in there
>>153346273Allow me to rephrase: Why do women with autonomy scare you so much?
Thank god I dropped this show long ago, will only watch the fight scenes now.
>>153346273Having the baby of some absent, living-with-his-Mom loser who won't even propose before going off to Space War for ??? amount of time is not mildly inconvenient. He only has "employment" because she forced a job on him.
>>153346140>a thing can only be true about a group of people if a literal majority of those people directly state it to be true>also their actions and the consequences thereof don't matter, just what they claim their intentions to be>so get me signed statements from millions of these people admitting they're hypocrites or you're a troll and i win, bye-byei'm not even the anon you were being a dipshit to, it was just too hilarious to go without comment
>>153346190>please acquiesce to my completely insane demands or you're wrong lolI bet you think feminists are being honest when they say they care about men, too.
>>153346279>HeNice try Samefag, but nobody's falling for it.
>>153346298Women's with autonomy and those who murder their children for convenience are two very different thing fag boy, and I don't appreciate you trying to smush them together for your own cynical attempt at a political gotcha
>>153346251>>153346288>H-he he was a jew!!Imagine getting psyoped this hard
>>153346308Okay buddy, you have fun with whatever schizophrenic demon your arguing with.
>>153346308Trying too hard, retarded Redditor
abortion kills more niggers than any other process on earth, only a fool would not love it
>>153346389>>153346457Your problem is personally identifying with Mark. I assume you are unfamiliar with the comic?His balls don't drop until the last chapters of this long story. One day yours might too.
>Eve has a better Viltrumite kill count than some of the people that actually went to war
>>153346126there is no better alternative you could possibly have>jewjew>muslimworshipping dead pedo who died the way he said he would if he wasnt the prophet>buddhistgay as fuck "dude its okay if everything turns to shit">hinduismshitskin indian religion>confuciunismdunno but probably gay>atheistgayest fucking choice you could take apart from jewish
>>153346288>>153346279>exactly 30s apartholy samefag
Eve had to have given Mark up for dead when he left. He's been brutally crushed by every viltrumite that isn't pussy(er) versions of himself from parallel dimensions.And he's going off to war with 50 that are roughly as strong as his Dad, who utterly beat the shit out of him.Led by a guy who's stronger than his Dad like his Dad is stronger than his worthless little brother, who is also going to die.Oh and they have a teenager girl for the almost-as-worthless-as-Oliver one eyed alien to rescue constantly.
>>153341370Cut him some slack he probably wasn't born yet.
>>153346612Ya gotta be 18 to post here, buckaroo. Come back in a few years, we'll still be here, don't worry
>>153346499Eve is a white woman and the brownoid /pol/ LARPers think white women are dignified beings.
>>153346561KEK
>>153340682The problem with discussing this here is that there are circumstances where abortion is a necessity. The fetus didn’t develop a brain or lungs or a heart or other life-necessary organ. Carrying the baby to term would kill the mother. The impregnation is the result of a rape. But the current gen of autist that has been flooding 4chan can’t into any circumstance that isn’t purely black or white and if it’s a circumstance where they can paint a woman as bad then they’re just gonna bray about how evil the woman is or whatever. Anyone with half a brain who tries to argue with them may as well be arguing with a brick wall because their brain literally can not wrap itself around nuance.
>>153346805my grandfather was a product of rapeall of us are at some point in our genealogy
>>153346763Off topic, but your image reminded me of something. Did anyone else find Moltar unbelievably attractive as a kid?
PRAISE THE ARCHITECTHE HAS BLESSED US WITH THICCNESS
>>153346805The vast majority nearly all abortion are as contraception/population control
>>153346763do you have an actual argument other than calling people underage or jewish?
>>153346805Eve lives in a dysfunctional family, and the moment everyone realizes she's preggers, she'll have Cuntbag Nick Fury sniffing up her cooze unrelentingly. Literally will not have a moment of peace left in her life.
>>153346331>makes an insane claim and expects me to just believe it>can't back it upPeculiar
So she'll be POWERLESS, her superhero friends are either off-dimension or compromised by Cuntbag Nick Fury. She'd likely end up as a Cecil lab experiment, exactly who would stop him at that point?
>>153346327No youtube clips, no polling, no nothing, just believe me bro
And a further reminder; Eve's own childhood was being an evil government lab experiment, along with her siblings.
>>153346817Your point being.....?
>>153340844Man I hate /co/ so much.
>>153346888I would if your childish conduct merited an argument worth my time. Until then, go back and play your Roblox server, kiddo>>153346822....no?
>>153346878Okay. The vast majority of homicides are the result of guns, should we outlaw those too or recognize gun ownership has necessities even tho some people abuse them?
>>153347009riiiiiight, because calling someone a faggot for worshipping a dead jew(the son of God btw) isnt childish, its extremely mature
>>153347018false equivalence
>>153347043God bless, anon
so is Lucan just single-handedly responsible for the black Viltrumite population
>>153347079>despite only making up .03% of the Viltrumite population....
>>153347066How? Guns kill people. Abortions kill people. You want one outlawed, shouldn’t the other be as well?
why are there so many spergs on /co/ today>ragebait threads about a show that's 90% cheating and 10% poorly animated fight scenes>max and ruby creepy pasta autism>seething at 10+ year old quirk chungus reddit comments>pedophile and bestiality threads (okay these are normal for co but still)
>>153347001Its fate.
>>153347238Invincible ended so all the shitposting for the next month is happening.
>>153347009Damn, just me, then? Fucking loved the suit. The voice, too. Hot as fuck. Someone else's gotta agree.
>"alright Mark, name something to eat that someone might say is their favorite!">"PUSSY, Lucan!"
i dont adhere to depopulation doctrine mostly because the idea that there's 10 billion people or whatever the bullshit number this week is to sell the overpopulation crisis and only those that support it are those that think they'll be apart of the group that gets to live
I can't believe Eve murdered their child. There aren't a lot of those Villers left and millions of people would be begging to raise a magic space baby. Imagine the hate she must hold in her heart that this seems normal. It's actually scary.This whole episode wasn't characters being characters, it was Robert Cuckmen using his show as a soap box. You can tell he just hates military men.
>>153346817are you the same guy who had a melt down in the other thread after posting this lol
>pro-lifers unironically posting on 4chan>a site that used to troll vocal pro-lifers back in the dayHow things have changed
>>153347364???
>>153347195Guns are a tool and abortion is the act of killing someone.
>>153347377hello nufag
>>153347377>I've been a retarded faggot for a super duper long timeOkay
>>153347377You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian.
Mark should not have bothered to go into a space war. Kirkman was right about heroism being bullshit.
>>153340682Is there an actual moral argument against abortion that doesn't involve souls or other religious stuff like that?
>>153347412fuck off, shillholy shit
>>153347439Something something less bodies to fill the factories
>>153347439No, there is no argument for morality without religious stuff.
>>153347439There's plenty, but the average shitposter doesn't bother to try because secularism has reached the lows of religious extremists
>>153347439No, just emotional manipulation, which is why they use phrases like "murdering babies"
>>153347484>It's not babykilling, it's preventing a baby from being born>Augustus wasn't Emperor, he was the first among equals
>>153347440>shill Does that actually mean anything anymore? Asking without irony
>>153347390Guns are a tool to kill people but can be necessary for security. Abortions kill someone but can be medically necessary.
>>153347505You have to be a deaf, comatose, blind lobotomy patient to not notice everything produced by a multibillion dollar company has fags from nowhere who don't fit in whatsoever in a community making excuses for every little fuckup and arguing these ridiculous fucking trashheaps are something to be enjoyed. Instead of accusing actual members of bigotry, which would out them immediately, you engage in logic and insults, only to fail because you retards still can't say shit.
>>153347377We also use to troll feminists. Yet here you are.
>>153347412>>153347505>>153347560Even worse, you skinsuit larp horribly. You can't even hide behind trolling. You use old memetic phrases without even understanding their meaning or how out of touch they actually are.>>153347585Exactly.Skinsuitlarping faggots.
>>153347585Not caring about abortions and thinking moralfagging on 4chan of all places is retarded makes you a feminist?
>>153347609>defending a whore killing her baby>denying that a whore killed her baby to begin withhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>153347560>>153347605>t.
>>153347557Guns are a tool that are mostly used for hunting, recreation, and self defense. Less than 5% of abortions are medically necessary and 100% of them involve the death of an innocent child.
>>153347631When did I mention women once you utter fucking retard?
I mean if I was a woman and an indian from a super rare and dying tribe knocked me up I'd feel bad for murdering our child, if not because killing babies is wrong but because of how rare they are and all the time invested into it.IRL a lot of women put kids up for adoption and that's with no guarantee that the kids are going to get a family or be safe. Magic babies with superpowers and a huge support network don't really have that issue so it's like she double murdered the native american baby.Eve is just a really terrible woman and Robert Cuckman can't help but put his fetish into everything. Imagine apologizing to the woman who murdered your child. Just lol.
>>153347643>100% of them involve the death of an innocent childGood, fuck them kids.
>>153347631I look like this and say this
>>153347624The whore in question is a collection of drawn lines you fucking retard
>>153347624You want whores having and raising children?
>>153347631>proves his point>>153347665man and you're defending its actionswowwhiteknighting on a different level
>>153347643But most people who are murdered are murdered with guns, if we’re banning things that kill people shouldn’t we start with those? In fact the leading cause of children death is guns. If you’re so concerned about the life of a child shouldn’t you want to do away with guns?
>>153347643>innocentPfftHA! Your existence alone is proof of guilt, anon.
I was hoping since they sped up Mark's recovery they'd change Eve's abortion arc, since he'd still be within the 9 months window, where as in the comic it was a bit over a year.I wish they changed it to be something like put Eve in a situation where she had to push and defend herself and it caused a miscarriage, or just have Angstrom pop out of a portal on his 5 minute lunchbreak to punch her in the stomach a few times before going back to work. They could have made it more "dramatic" and avoided the "omg I thought you were dead so I murdered the baby because I am young and I was scared and didn't want to raise the child of a dead man who I loved, I wanted to extinguish the living remnants of you because it hurt to think of you" shit.As is it's just drama for drama's sake in order to make Mark hate himself more, as if the entire Viltrumite retaliation thing isn't enough of a problem for Mark to panic over and hate himself over. It doesn't meaningfully add to the story except to, frankly, demonize Eve and just twist the knife in Mark. >Oh no I can't leave Eve in the ultra high security super bunker, let the whole world get fucked up by other Invincibles, oh no more people died because of me being a bitch and not trusting Eve and the GDA>Oh no I left Eve because ultra supermen were going to exterminate all life on this side of the universe and she got sad and murdered our child because she was done spooked by me being away for a few months, because I trusted her she'd be fine and manned up to go do what had to be done to save lives>Fuck me if I stay everyone dies and if I leave Eve drowns the baby in the bath tub because I'm never allowed anything but pain because my creator is a drama freak"I was afraid of going through everything alone myself" as if she didn't have Debbie, the GDA, an entire network of super heroes who have resources and emotional support and specialized in trauma and widows/widowers. It's just so manufactured.
>>153347665Art is real people - look at all the people trying to ban loli or how anti-sex the recent generation has become. The whole 'drawings aren't real people' is just a boomerism.
>>153347694That was the perfect fucking out.But noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Mark should've asked for the corpse, to eat it.
>>153347655>>153347678>the point>>>>>your headGod bless, anon
>>153347665>pretending the conversation didn't extend to reality at the start of the thread>>153347683Law abiding citizens should have access to the best possible self defense
>>153347725>>153347694Why do you want the source material to be changed so badly? Shitty people exist and do bad things, why does it have to be "accidental"?
>>153347678The only other thing I said in this thread was how I wanted to fuck Moltar as a kid.I'm not whiteknighting, I'm pointing out that this whole argument is fucking retarded. The whore is not fucking real.
>>153347758>>153347655
>>153347773Did you mean to reply to me? How the fuck does that answer the question?
>>153347772then why are you participating?moron
>>153347784oh, you're legitimately asking, which means you're legitimately retarded
>>153347790Because you're being a retard and I wanted to tell you you're being a retard
>>153347817cute
>>153347812Yes I'm retarded for thinking not every character has to be sympathetic and shitty people exist
>>153347734And should have access to the best possible medical care and sometimes that might involve an abortion
>>153347772Again, that's a boomerism and outs you as being an old. Drawings are real people and they do real harm to people. Loli, gore, raping people by drawing them in sexual situations, ectect. The whole "It's not real lmao" just doesn't fly anymore.
>>153347847Meds
>>153347843Sure, less than 5% of abortions are needed to save the mother's life. What about the rest of the time when it's just a bitch that doesn't want to take responsibility for being a whore?
>>153347863I don't care if it's right or wrong I'm just telling you what the world is now. The whole 'It's not real it's a drawing' is treated as a dog whistle for being a freak and people will judge you as such.I'm from an older generation so I'm not even going to pretend to understand it.
>>153347878that 5% vindicates the 95%, brothe 13% doing the 50% validates female hatred for the 100% too
>>153347379There was another Invincible thread where someone mentioned their grandpa was a product of rape and someone replied "Sorry that happened" and the first guy had a meltie and told the guy to fuck off and went on a tirade about being 'disgusted by false sympathies from assholes on 4chan' or something along those lines and got like 15 replies.All very odd.Just thought it was a weird coincidence to see the same thing mentioned twice a week or so apart.
>>153347929what the fuck
>>153347834Thanks! I'm very cute, I know.>>153347847I don't know how to tell you this, but drawing real people in sexual situations without their consent is not the same as a fictional character in a TV show getting an abortion.
>>153347908Women are bad at math
>>153347758They've already changed a lot while still keeping similar beats, Debbie refusing to forgive Nolan in one page, and Eve's father's chat with Mark, in just this season, is changed from the comic.As is, it's just needless drama, it plays up the dilemma so much (Eve can't use her powers right while pregnant) and instead of playing into it by showing her stand by while bad things happen, or being put into a terrible position herself, she's just given the "I was scared so I killed the only living thing to remind me of you" argument, which is just for the sake of drama, when Mark is already having super PTSD over his near death experience and the potential of a world ending retaliation. Even in the same episode, Mark basically forgets it a minute after it happens because he's so preoccuppied with "Everyone is possibly going to die" so it's like "What's the fucking point of this? Set up problem, do nothing with it, resolve with drama that lasts a minute and just damages the character"
>>153347878>your wife’s doctor tells you (well in this scenario you’d have a wife so…not you) her pregnancy is endangering her life and if she carries the baby to term she’ll likely die. But since other people abused abortions they’re no longer legal so your wife is just going to have to roll the dice>someone breaks into your house and is holding your family hostage. You don’t have a gun though since some people abused them and now they’re outlawedHow are these different
>>153340682Yeah, Mark had 0 choice or power over the situation. He shouldnt say sorry. Eve is a bastard for killing her child. The critters are bastards for saying this behavior is okay. Poor Mark didnt deserve this.
>>153347985That has never fucking happened.Even in states where women can be prosecuted for murder because of babykilling in other states, there is still the clause for abortion if it threatens the life of the mother.You are complaining about nothing.
>>153347952Yeah, abortions actually kill a grouping of cells that if allowed to grow could potentially be put up adoption, at least in a better world. A drawing doesn't actually hurt anyone unless you're harassing people with it, which is more a harassment thing then a drawing thing.I know women who would love the support network Eve has. Anyways, I feel bad for Cuckmens wife.
>>153347908>>153347961>>153347985>>153348002>Women cannot into logicOh wowwhat a surprise
>>153347878>just a bitch that doesn't want to take responsibility for being a whore?A person like that would be an abusive shit parent anyways, so the abortion would the preferable outcome. That's also assuming they choose to keep the kid and don't dump them at an orphanage or something.
>>153348005>potentially be put up for adoptionAdoption psychologically harms the child for life, which is worse than non-existence. Adoptees have much higher risks of mental illness and suicide than the general population
>>153348025>her killing her baby is okay because she would've killed it anyway, being a horrible baby killing whorewhat
>>153348025An IRL Eve would be a terrible mother and is almost certainly going to be an expy for Cuckmens actual wife. 100%.
>>153347847......so we need to arrest drawings now? Is that the takeaway here?
>>153348040Should we murder the poor then? Since they suffer from the same afflictions.
This is a real American mapThere is no Japan, no Britain, no Ireland, no Cuba, no Cyprus and i don't even know what's going on in SEA
>>153348005You're talking like I'm somehow pushing a stance on abortion. I'm not.I'm saying that arguing over a drawing of a fictional character and acting like they and the shittily-written abortion they had is real is retarded.
>>153348056I think we should burn every picture of the character to ever exist and kill anyone who thinks of them.
>>153348069Did they use AI here?
>>153348040It's not that bad if you have money, it's the poors that have a hard time. Too many kids, too little money and resources, too little things to keep you busy. It's better then murdering the child of someone who wasn't even gone a year, when you have the universes biggest support network, while knowing your kid might have powers that can save millions and millions of lives if you let it live.Practically speaking if a women aborted a child who had a blood condition that could save millions of lives without harming its quality of life we'd hate her forever and consider her one of the worst human beings to ever exist. Eve is that but as a cartoon. Fuck, I think we'd hate women who'd kill the baby of a native american tribe that's slowly dying out let alone one who could save the literal galaxy.
>>153348069Florida turned into a chode. RIP Hawaii.
>>153348057If said poors had no brain, nervous system, consciousness or capacity to feel anything, yes
>>153348041>her killing her babyA fetus is not a baby, let alone an embryo. When you use flowery, emotionally charged language like this it outs you as not arguing in good faith.
>>153345807Another one one upping Tech Jacket
>>153348115a fetus can be birthed prematurelyyou are not helping your case
>>153348002>there is still the clause for abortion if it threatens the life of the mother.Okay so abortion, or baby killing as you put it, is okay if the mother’s life is at risk. So the mother’s life is important. Now what if the baby is a product of rape? And the mother is only 12? Are you going to force that 12 year old girl who was raped to not only carry that baby to term and forever ruin her body AND ruin the rest of her childhood by forcing her to care for a baby that was literally forced on her?
>>153348056I don't know - I just know 'it's not real' is treated as a dog whistle now.>>153348077I'm not saying I agree or disagree. Tbh I don't have much of a point besides making it clear the new generation treats drawings as real people now. Draw someone getting shot, you should be arrested. Draw someone getting raped, you should go into a database. Draw lolicon, you're a pedophile. Play violent games and you're into weird gore and an incel.The whole "drawings aren't real people" dates you, that's all I'm saying. This abortion in a comic, to them, is real because it gives them the same feelings as a real abortion and is about abortion. It being a drawing doesn't matter, the content does.
>>153348137Ah, I see we've reached the point where you have none and are trying to make ridiculous hypotheticals in hopes of an opening.I accept your concession.
>>153348156>12 year old pregnant from rape>ridiculous hypothetical lol
>>153348173Most of us don't live in third world or Europe for that matter.
>>153348183Name one country that isnt a third world country right now. Ill wait. Everywhere is fucked.
>>153348132Yeah, and most of those are botched miscarriages where it dies instantly afterwards. What point are you trying to make here?
>>153348216So you admit they're alive?
>>153348156>Ah I see we’ve reached the point where I’m confronted with the fact abortion isn’t a black and white issue so I’m going to run away
If abortion isnt murder then why are people who kill pregnant mothers convicted of double homicide.
>>153348235>abortion isn't a black and white issue because this case happens 5% of the time as opposed to the 95% of times it doesn't
It's okay to kill people because 5% of them are murderers :)
>>153340682That was retarded
>>153340792That’s why she’s fat.
Well, fuck me.Anon actually won
>>153348085It looks like what happens when animation is sent overseas and you don't make the lines thick enough, details end up lost and small things don't translate. Which is weird because IU think all the animation is done in house with like 10 guys.
>>153348224Yeah, it is. But it's not a "person". Humans shoot and kill animals that have 100x the mental capabilities and cognitive awareness the fetus has, yet it doesn't matter when they die but it DOES matter when the fetus does? That makes no sense to me.
>>153348304I accept your concession, anon. I accept your concession.
>>153348250That…that’s literally what nuance means, anon.
>>153348270Yeah, it's a terrible message for today's women and men. Definitely not something Kirkmen went though. Just some made up nonsense he wrote for brownie points.
>>153348236If buttsex is legal why can rapists or diddlers get charged with sodomy
>>153348304How many months do I have to wait for the fetus to become a fully functioning human being? How many months do I have to wait for the deer to become a fully functioning human being?
>>153348335Since when was this about nuance?Your attempts to all steer the conversation away from what we're actually talking about is cute, but I'm done with you all. Your attempts at logic are pathetic. Even arguing in bad faith, I still got you to admit the truth.
>>153348328I accept yours as well, since murder is specifically illegal killing, and fetuses aren't babies. Good day.
>>153348379
got to the "i got an abortion" partyeah i hate her nowmark's pathetic
>>153348224Cancer is technically alive until it leaves the body, withers and dies. You're attaching human traits to something that by form, name and definition is not a human. You're making it something that its not from a desire to attach sanctity to the concept of life itself, but the reality is there is no such sanctity. It's entirely in flux at all times at the mercy of the whims of our entire species. You need to step back and acknowledge the fact that the world *does not care for how you feel about it*
>>153348424>comparing a baby to canceri can hear your handrubbing
>>153348375? Were we not talking about abortions, anon? How did we steer the conversation away from that?
>>153348424Mhhh and do you know of many cancers who pop out of the woman and become a full human being?
>>153347655>>153348454
>>153348375>t. Can’t justify forcing a 12 year old child to carry a rapist’s baby to term so takes his ball and goes home
>>153348436>It's another Chud Spinster "looking out for other people's children" thread.Always creepy.
>>153348472Oh okay so you’re going to sidestep the conversation and claim I’m pretending not to know what you’re talking about. Okay.
>>153348492That is what you're doing, yes.>>153348474>>153348250>>153348268
>>153348463You
>>153348463>>153348506He's got you on that one.
>>153348357>How many months do I have to wait for the fetus to become a fully functioning human beingLate stage is the cutt-off point, since that's when they can feel pain and move around, so whenever that starts. Preferably you'd want to abort before the fetal stage entirely, or take pills.>>153348357>How many months do I have to wait for the deer to become a fully functioning human being?That doesn't. I made that comparison to combat the hypocrisy over people moralfagging over embryos and fetuses despite killing and eating living being with comparable and greater mental awareness. I don't have a problem with killing most animals, as long as it's for food and done as painless as possible.
>>153348523>comparing killing babies to huntingSo Epstein is alive
>>153348500>I really like pizza>yeah me too>car goes fast!>what?>typical leftist pretending not to know what we’re talking about!
>>153347439i know you're just being a baiting little faggot butif capitol punishment requires the most heinous of crimes to be committed, and even then requires a trialthen what could an unborn child have possibly done to deserve the same sort of punishment
>>153348567Oh lawd, he's pulling out the Left vs Right dichotomy on us! Watch out!Without reading this miserable thread, has he called anyone a transexual yet?
>>153348540>Another low effort strawman response I think we're done talking here buddy.
>>153348567That is what you were doing, yes.>>153348235>>153348250>>153348335
The baby is an univited intruder only and exclusively in the case of rape. In the case of consensual sex, regardless of the use of condoms or pills, the parents took actions that would result in pregnancy and are thus responsible for inviting the baby in.What the "her body her choice" crowd is arguing is that if I invite someone on my private jet, I am allowed to push them out of it high in the air and let them fall to their death. A completely deranged line of logic.On the other hand, the "He's not a real human yet" crowd, is completely unable to provide a clear cut off as to when human life becomes human life. What's the difference between 8 weeks and 1 day compared to 7 weeks and 6 days that makes such a strong philosophical difference that transforms murder into non murder? How is a baby being born or not, not merely a change of location?As it stands now, abortion is not only murder, but irresponsible murder. It can only be claimed self defense of one's owned body in the specific case of rape.There is no argument for abortion until the day it stop being murder, and becomes a relocation of the fetus from the womb to an incubator, so that he may still live.
>>153348588you stick out like a white guy in a rot
>>153348588>>153348622riot*ugh
>>153348481Another creepy spinster or worse woman who did their child the disservice of birthing them attempting to convince women and girls that abortion is heaven awesome and valid. You bitches dont even fight for real reproductive rights, women's health or rights for mothers. But the right of abortion ir dressing like a skank. Oh shit go on a fucking million skank march. Youre useful idiots of oligarchs who want you as childless brides and children of the state. The very people who want us all culled.
>>153348588>>153347655You’re way late faggot
>>153348600The term "murder" implies it illegal, which it's not. Or it's only murder if you get it done in texas or something.
Eve is justified in terminating her early pregnancy because she's utterly at the mercy of an Evil mastermind who will whisk her off to a lab "for study" the moment he realizes she's carrying a baby. There's nothing at all she can do to stop it, no one who could or would protect her, and she's fully aware of the horrors of a black lab experience like that because she suffered them herself.And Cecil would 100% absolutely jump at the chance to raise a superbaby with a potential combination of Mark and Eve's powers (or even just one of them).That doesn't make her a bad person at all.
>>153348649But it's not babykilling either?
>>153348576>unborn child>punishmentThere you go again making an arguement in bad faith. There's no judgment involved, no punishment doled out. Sometimes life just does not work out the way you want it to and that is not a bad thing. You can't always stop the bad, and you shouldn't always expect the good. Life happens somewhere in the middle, and we as a society tend to forget or ignore that fact, id argue
>>153348600So what’s the difference between a rape baby and an oops baby that makes it okay to kill the one but not the other?
>>153348600>regardless of the use of condoms or pills, the parents took actions that would result in pregnancy and are thus responsible for inviting the baby in.Someone in your life failed you by not telling you that this line of argumentation just SCREAMS "No one wants to fuck me and I'm really mad about it."
>>153348654seriouslywhite guy at the street market
>>153348649Murder, as in morally illegitimate, which it is.Law is just a piece of paper, it can change tomorrow, the truth will stay the same no matter how many times it changes.
>>153348658look you stupid nigger i know it's hard for you to read and that's okaybut killing somebody, is in fact, a punishment
>>153348672not an argument
>>153348600Okay.So you're gonna help pay to take care of all those new kids then, right?
>>153348688Murder is a legal term.
>>153348668I would argue against the killing in case of rape, morally I think the rightful option is to put the kid up to adoption after birthHowever legally, the baby is an illegitimate intruder, and since the woman is the owner of her body and did not invite the baby, an argument can be made that she has the right to eject the baby no matter the circumstances.
>>153348694Mine was >>153348668
>>153340682>my body your fault
>unironically using semanticsfuck me, got some real smootbrained cum-droolers in here
>>153348717The word murder is of proto indo european originIt has no relation whatsoever to the current legal code.>>153348707Sure, I think it's good, and many christian charities offer this to families consider abortionThat said even if I were to answer no, it would not be a refutation as the responsability lies only with the parents. Only they "owe" something to the baby they created. Everyone else should help, but is not morally compelled to.
>>153348707>anon has to bear the financial burden of Stacy being a whore or he's being hypocritical about baby murder being bad
Mark didn't propose to her..Mark didn't even talk about their futureEve was just his newest Forever GirlHe literally abandons her to the mercy of his enemies and rivals..with nothing to defend herselfNo "we can take you to Galaxy Hospital and look for a treatment" or anything.And Mark is 150% aware that he cannot trust Cecil, and that he's constantly keeping tabs on them.No, he doesn't realize she's preggers, but what if one of his other foes shows up? All his allies WORK for Cecil. She's totally exposed.
>>153348718Youre correct. And men should not be legally held responsible for children they do not claim or want. Your line if reasoning is sound and bulletproof.
>>153348718Just reminded me of Star Trek with the Ferengi and how the fathers have to pay expecting mothers a monthly fee because they consider pregnancy to be a rental situation.
>>153348718>put the kid up for adoptionA different kind of hell rather than just aborting it>the baby is an illegitimate intruderBut if you’re using protection or on birth control that fails or even if you’re not wanting to get pregnant how is that baby not an illegitimate intruder?
>>153348769>A different kind of hell rather than just aborting itYou should meet an adopted kid sometime. They're spoiled as fuck.
>>153348778Oh yeah everyone knows the stereotypical spoiled orphan child
>>153348761>And men should not be legally held responsible for children they do not claim or wantThis is addressed in my first post where I claim consensual sex carries the inherent responsability to the babyIf you didn't want it, you shouldn't have had sex, thus, you should take care of the baby or seek someone willing to do it in your stead, and ONLY THEN, renounce your role as guardian of the baby.
>>153348786Do you not know what being adopted means?
>>153348754One thing you have to understand is that anything, ANYTHING, is on the table except women closing their legs or using a pill that has been on the market for 60 years, or having a man use a skin that's been on the market for 100.
>>153348754>women having sex with any man but me should be punished Again, what every anti-abortion argument boils down to
>>153340682women really do think this way>>153340792>Women want to have their cake but eat it too.and that's why they usually get so fat but blame you for their weight gain
>>153348769>But if you’re using protection or on birth control that failsYou know there is a risk of failureAbstaining for sex is 100% effective. You did not abstain, you chose the risk. I do not want to lose money when I play poker either. Maybe I shouldn't bet, then.>A different kind of hell rather than just aborting itIf he wants he will be able to kill himself any time. You don't get to make this decision for the baby.
>>153348796Do you not know where children go before they’re adopted? Or what happens to them if they’re not adopted?
>>153348803If you ever have sex, you should be aware that neither of these is 100% reliable. Just in case that ever happens.
>>153348807They really need to hurry up and invent contraception.
>>153348825CuteI accept your concession
>>153341052>>153341146>>153341215Here is a cool idea, an evil Redhead Mark shows up to kick invinsible ass and take over the world in the behest of some villain that raised him, he has both Vultrimite powers and Atom Even Powers.
>>153348819>You know there is a risk of failureYou may as well say women should carry rape babies because there’s an inherent risk to being raped as a woman. Your argument just boils down to punishing people for having sex.
>>153348754Unironically yes>>153348750>Only they "owe" something to the babyWell hold on there a second. You lot are the ones advocating so strongly for that child to be born into a situation they never asked to be in, and one they wouldn't have been put into to begin with if not for your adamant intervention. Do you not bear responsibility for that child's existence that would not have come to be without you? And does that not mean you bear the burden of taking care of that child, hell or high water, out of moral obligation to maintain and cultivate thier life that, again, happened because *you* insisted should proceed, any other concerns be damned? "Love thy neighbor as thyself" has no caveats, anon.
>women that engage in an act meant to result in pregnancy when they get pregnantLiterally what do you think sex is.
>>153345284>>153345234>>153345178>boomer on 4chan>calling others sadholy yikes
>women are incapable of closing their legsokay, i'm glad you admit it
>>153348830>contraception never ever fails and has a success rate of 110%. The extra ten percent is for how amazing it is it never fails
>>153348825>life is exactly like an early career Tim Burton film Anon......
>>153348864>people who quote scripture as gospel when they find out neighbour = neighbour, not neighbour = every single one of the 8,000,000,000 people on earth.
>>153348137>Now what if the baby is a product of rape? And the mother is only 12? Are you going to force that 12 year old girl who was raped to not only carry that baby to term and forever ruin her body AND ruin the rest of her childhood by forcing her to care for a baby that was literally forced on her?Wouldn't theater still mean she needs ot give birth to thelid since she her life isn't in danger? It would only change if her life was in danger? Also for that young wouldn't a c section be used vs normal birth? Also rape is not even 1% of abortion vs over 96% being completely elective, why are we using rape for the justification for abortion vs other reasons?
>>153348869Yes, a bunch of young virgins weighing in on the consequences of the sex they aren't having like the Council of Elders is cringe as fuck, and you all get drawn into it CONSTANTLY.Just have some, you'll quickly find out it's not the End All Be All, except for the worst coomers.
>>153348833Instead of posting “I accept your concession” you may as well just post “I don’t have an argument but am too proud to just not reply on an anonymous board so I have to post something extremely faggy in reply”
>>153348902plésion: NeighborOriginal Word: πλησίον1. (adverbially) close by2. (as noun) a neighbor, i.e. fellow (as man, countryman, Christian or friend)
>>153348859>because there’s an inherent risk to being rapedThe rape is the action of another individual. It has a clear perpetrator and a clear victim. The woman didn't choose to have the risk, she did not create the risk, the risk was only created by the rapist existing>>153348864>nd one they wouldn't have been put into to begin with if not for your adamant interventionWrong, I did not intervent to make the parents procreate, which is what puts them into being.Your argument is dead before it even starts, unless you cannot point to me the specific moment where they become a "real being" after conception.
>>153348925instead of posting so many meaningless words, you can just reply "I'm angry"
>>153340844What stings me is "people" pretending Anissa is better when her conquests have certainly killed millions of babies
>>153348902What's the official distance at which point Muh Book releases you to be a sanctimonious prick?is it yards? Miles?
>>153348654Cecil will threat that baby like if it was the second coming of jesus, what?
>>153348787The man has no inherent responsibility to something the mother can remove and sees as a parasite/cancer/invader.It makes perfect legal and ethical sense.
>>153348940Intervene*Unless you can*
>>153348946Filicide is entirely different
>>153348902So the core of Jesus' message only really applies to anyone within earshot of him?
>>153348884>anon thinks orphanages are giant slumber parties with toys for miles and chocolates and candies and not a government hellhole where kids mostly just age out then live a life of crime on the streets
>shorten mark's coma to 2 months>they didn't actually plan anything with this, it was just another timeline fuck up like all the purge shit
>>153348946Anissa isn't a retard who fucks blue aliens with tentacles when she's lonely.
>>153348973......so you've never seen a Tim Burton film? Ok, cool, thanks for clarifying
>>153348957>something the mother can remove and sees as a parasite/cancer/invaderAgain, in the case we are discussing, rape, the mother received an unwanted intruder. But the man, the rapist, is the one who created the intruder, and thus the only one who bears responsability towards the intruder. The woman may choose to take care of the baby or not, the rapist has ALREADY made that choice when he committed the act.
>The most recent, widely cited research estimates that the U.S. has just over 1.1 million abortions per year.>If you push assumptions to the upper end (low reporting rates + broad definitions), analysts sometimes infer totals (of rapes) approaching or exceeding ~500,000 incidents annually.If you outlawed abortion outside of rape, and then put the number of rapes at the HIGHEST POSSIBLE, and then assume EVERY RAPE results in pregnancy, and EVERY PREGNANCY from rape ends in abortion, you've halved abortions.
>>153348973Remember that senator that wanted to talk about sbuse and human trafficking of children by cps. Remember how she and her husband had an unfortunate accident?
>>153348979False hope to crush everyone's hopes. Libs ain't gonna say aborting is bad because people like mindless sex, and the only people who believe in "self-control" are fundie retards who are getting cheated on and incel shitposters on Twitter/Youtube/4chan
>>153348997You think they're interested in truth.
>>153348995Yes. And the rapist would have parental rights over that child if she chooses to have it. Doesnt make sense for the genetic father to not have any legal or ethical obligations to it?
>>153348920didn't readgo into a retirement home and get beaten by blacks already
>>153346298Oh fuck off with the "autonomy" argument. The baby literally only exists as a direct result of a woman's autonomy. This isn't about a woman being autonomous, its about a woman being able to ignore the responsibility that comes with Autonomy.
>>153348236Only if the pregnant woman is visibly pregnant and therefore past the point abortion is permitted
>>153348940The parents did the deed, ill grant you. Then they were going to make whatver decision best suited them and their specific situation, but then you lot came along and said "NO CHOICE, BABY'S HERE, ENJOY YOUR LIFE NOW." You made it so they're forced to carry the child to term and everything that comes with it, and it's *then* that you suddenly have no responsibility? After all your bitching and moaning and bombing clinics and what-have-you, you personally have zero consequences to face? >muh charities Tossing coins into a bin every Sunday =/= doing the work to actually take care and love one's neighbors
>>153348997The issue with leaving only rape legal, is that while it's a moral position, it's also a legal mess as women will be incentivized to lie and say their boyfriend, or some unnamed stanger, raped them. Since you only have a few months to abort, there is no time for a trial to verify which claims are true, and which claims are false, which leads to a complete mess.I guess if after performing abortion it is proven that the woman lied, she should be charged with murder, but its a bandaid at best, as the baby is already dead.>>153349025The rapist is a heinous criminal who should be in jail for more years than it takes the baby to develop into being a teenager, most countries child protection laws already cover the fact that the father should have the obligation to help with money, but not the parental custody over the child.
>>153349035Barely literate Latina abuelas and barely human jewish pencil pushers actually.
>>153349068>she should be charged with murder, but its a bandaid at best, as the baby is already dead.True but it does remove a murderer from society. In theory if someone is willing to lie and accuse someone else of a criminal act just to kill the baby then she only was missing the opportunity to commit a crime and when given it, she did.
>>153348997>widely cited>doesnt actually cite it
>>153349063>Then they were going to make whatver decision best suited themYes, by murdering someone>NO CHOICEThey had the choice, they could have not procreated>you personally have zero consequences to face? Consequences for what? I didn't create the baby, I didn't murder the baby, I simply prevented a murder. If you see someone about to get stabbed in the street and jump in to help, are you forever obligated to the person you saved? Because this is your argument>Tossing coins into a bin every SundayI am not a christian so I do not do that, but christian charities *offer to take care* of the baby, as in, adopt him, which parents refuse because the woman would rather murder than endure a couple of month of the consequences of her own actions.
>>153349068No. The father has no monetary obligation to HER child. Its her decision to have the child.He has no part in it nor should he logically have any legal obligation to take care of her child.
>>153340682A trve Viltrumite would've bashed her head in for such transgressions. Viltrum gang Whoop Whoop!
>>153348654yeah, and eve is now living a good life while also being a test tube baby herself. Does she seriously think cecil will fuck with the baby of mark?
>>153349118>Its her decision to have the child.Wrong, the father also made that decision, when he committed the act. The woman simply made her choice laterBut the father ABSOLUTELY made the decision to rape and thus procreateWe went over this already and your answer was "yes" >>153348995 >>153349025
>>153349047>its about a woman being able to ignore the responsibility that comes with Autonomy.>abortion needs to be illegal because women need to be punished for having sex
i dunno man, an unwanted baby with an unwilling mother just sounds like a bad time for everyone involved
Allowing abortion for rape will result in more innocent babies being punished for rape than actual rapists.
>>153349128Btw do we ever see how a Viltrumite wedding ceremony goes?
>>153349100>They had the choice, they could have not procreated>they need to be punished for having sex
>>153349157Is it ever shown that they actually get married? They refer to the humans they get with as "mates"
>>153349147Just give it to Mark's mom. She was gonna be an empty nester in about 2 years with how fast Oliver was growing.
>>153349146So I guess making drunk driving illegal is just a way to punish people that drink beer huh?
>>153349163What is sex for?
>>153349163IT'S NOT PUNISHMENTIT'S LITERALLY THE POINT OF THE ACT
>>153349138Not talking about rape. Which is barely a single percentage of all abortions. Im talking about the legal and social ramifications of abortion and hiw men should not be legally and socially coerced into being responsible for the clump of cells she takes to term. Rapists should go to prison and be held monetarily responsible though.Because choice was taken away from the mother.
>>153349163>they need to be punished for having sexThere is no punished. When I lose a bet playing poker and I have to give away my money it's not a punishment for misbehavior.A baby is a consequence of their action, nobody is punishing them but themselvesI myself have had sex with condoms, and never caused a pregnancy because I'm not fucking retarded and I know how to check if a condom failed. And if it did, the 24h pill affects the eggs BEFORE they are fertilized, meaning that if you are not retarded the chances of a conception happening are basically 0.You argument is retarded "uuhhh you are mad at people having sex", no, I'm mad at cowards who cannot behave responsably, like I always did in my life.
>>153348757The only reason he can't trust Cecil is because he's a moody bitch. His biggest tantrum over Cecil "working against him" ended up being the only thing that would have saved millions of people had Mark not cried about it. Cecil and the GDA put resources towards raising Oliver and it worked out great.
>>153349176So you’re saying your anti-abortion argument is more about punishment than it is protecting babies
>>153349211>I myself have had sexDoubt
>>153349209>Not talking about rapeThen I don't see the point of the argument, since I am against abortion outside of rape, I believe both the mother and the father to be responsibleThe mother didn't choose not to abort, as abortion is not even a valid choice. Two people had consensual sex, therefore two people are responsible until they find someone else who desires to be the guardian for the child.
>>153349224This is the part where you are done even pretending to have an argument. Kek.
>people who drive cars, own guns, can vote, etc. when they engage in a reproductive act and it results in reproduction
Since Kirkman decided to keep the abortion plot I think it would have been better if Mark returned to Earth and Eve was still pregnant and she invited Mark to watch the abortion and Mark thought it was cool and brave to abort the baby and he took a knee and raised a fist to salute all the black, brown, indigenous and people of color who are denied this right in AmeriKKKa and how Eve was only afforded this luxury because of pillaged money from colonization funding the GDA, in service to white super heroes, and then Satan shows up to give Eve thumbs up and reminds the audience that there is no heaven or hell there is only ROCK AND ROLL and nothing is more ROCK AND ROLL than being an empowered woman and hearing her roar. I will proceed to throw myself down the stairs for writing this.
>>153349253So you've only had sex with the intent reproduce?
>>153349025That's presuming the woman has any intention of carrying a permanent reminder of the act. Look, if you view a fetus as a person, then charge the rapist with murder, and hold them liable for the medical costs if you feel the state shouldn't provide healthcare to rape victims. The woman didn't ask for any of it, and punishing her for his actions is retarded Perfect Gentleman thinking.
>>153340682My baby girl Eve obliterated the baby and told no one but Mark
>>153349259based so tru sister! you tell those moids! yaaas slayyy!
>>153349276I've refrained from having sex and so far I somehow haven't had to deal with unexpected children
>>153348902>I say unto you, love thy neighbor as thyself>unless they're too far away>or they made a mistake>or they're lesser than you somehow>or they're too poor >or they dont speak your language>or they worship different gods>or they smell bad>or they're ***(brown)***Think I may be paraphrasing here but I just dont have my Bible on hand atm. What does yours say?
>>153340682I really thought there was something bigger at play here. Like they were going to make a point about Viltrumites obsession with not letting their race die and Mark not giving a fuck. But this is just a pointless melodrama that really adds nothing to the story
>>153340682Considering Mark will live for thousands of years, it's not a big deal. He can always make more babies, with Eve or any other girl. Maybe it was too soon for settling down. Maybe in 100 years
>>153349276The reason people have sex is irrelevant compared to the FACT of what sex is FOR.
>>153349288>refrainedyou make it sound like you even had a choice, incel
>>153349294Ordo amoris.
>>153349288>I've refrainedSure you have anon
>>153349306Congratulations!I hope you're ready for the rest of this entire story that is exactly like that
>>153349259Kirkman is a fat hack. That's not new
>>153349276if me and my friend beat the fuck out of each other for fun i shouldnt be surprised if i loose teeth
>>153346499Most african americans are religious. They don't practice abortion and often have multiple kids. So I don't know where your fantasy comment came from
>>153349343HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>153349343>he doesnt know
>>153349343Having abortions and having multiple children aren't mutually exclusive
>>153349335Backshots from Telia's brother (who will either be voiced by someone from Community or if Kirkman is smart with budgeting for once, Phil LaMarr doing his best edgy Hermes from Futurama voice
>>153349294Mind you "as yourself" means you don't put up with bad behavior or evils or other things that transgress against your values.If someone's a junkie strung out in the park, you resent the evils of them going for drugs, you should have the compassion to try and get them help and off the stuff, but if they choose to get aggressive and fight you and victimize others to feed it, you're allowed to pop them, you're not ordered to love them AND their evils, and you are permitted defense of self and others. If I became a junkie and broke into someone's house to look for stuff to steal for a fix, I'd understand and want others to put me down. If someone's religiously being aggressive against me and undermining me, I'm not suppose to tolerate their actions, I'm suppose to rebuke and resist it, although I should have an open heart to try and get the person to understand and stop, and it should be genuine, no fake niceness just to get the person to convert, but if someone's faith is transgressing against mine and others, I am allowed to resist and resent their evils. If someone's faith lets them rape kids and use child soldiers, I shouldn't go "Oh shucks that's just their culture, you know?" I should find it utterly abhorrent, if me or my own do the same, I would not tolerate it and would root it out.>What about priestsI support investigation and prison for those who abuse the faith and positions of power to prey on others, get them out. Neither in or out of my house will it be tolerated, for that is what love is.
>>153340682Mark's unborn son be like
Mark let Eve murder his child and apologized for it even though he's an endangered species and she never even looked for someone to adopt.I am 100% sure Cuckman beat his child and forced his wife to apologize to him, the same way I'm sure he's a secret lolicon.
>>153349399also Debbie was right there to help her taker care of the baby
>>153349306Kirkman likes Mark suffering. Suffering builds character. Its also proof being a hero is pointless; the only people who take that seriously are losers with nothing left to lose, like Rexsplode and Cecil
>>153349277I never brought up rape. You did. And tje volcano jews threw their "sinners" in that was retconned into hell by the fanfiction known as dantes inferno will freeze over before feminists and depopulation ttypes allow abortion to be seen as murder.Face it. The next logical step is to remove all forced monetary and legal rights from biological fathers who dont want the child. It is the ethical and legal thing to do.
>>153349327>>153349332I know you're not going to believe me but I'm attractive enough to get laid and have had a couple of girls confess to me
>>153349215If you're retarded and think responsibility is a punishment
Anyone got a mega for the finale? The place I've been streaming from has been down since yesterday.
>>153349418Yup, it's pretty clear that Cuckman's wife/gf killed their baby without even attempt to look for someone to adopt the creature and now he's just venting through his comics.I am 100% sure Cuckmen beats his wife or is emotionally abusive as well, along with being the worlds most obvious lolicon. Too much pandering to abusers for it not to be true.
>>153344190>must of
>>153348803>>153348878>they should just close their legsAs if you fags would be okay with your gfs being completely celibate and abstaining from sex with you until they're ready for a child
>>153349536moron
>>153349480Can always streamIt, it's Not too hard to find,Even googling will find it,Because it's quite popularYou know?
>>153349544Yeah, assuming any of the faggots arguing about this on a Taiwanese interpretive dance forum have even the hope of seeing a vagina consensually before they suck-start a shotgun was pretty stupid of them, to be honest.
>>153349536I use protection, and since I'm not retarded, it never failedBut I think many anons here are more than ok with no sex until marriage
>>153349382>should find it utterly abhorrent, if me or my own do the same, I would not tolerate it and would root it out.I can concede that point, but in turn could you concede that there's a least a tiny bit of a gray area between actively raping children and a woman down on her luck making one of the hardest decisions anyone can ever make?
>>153349574Ah, you're right. I just wasn't looking hard enough.
Let me just take a moment to sincerely thank each and every one of you for "abstaining" and staying out of the gene pool.Honest appreciation.
>>153349616Glad you found it. Sc if it's legit or not, don't want to get on one of those fake sites.
>>153349616I know its reddit but keep a bookmark on r/piracy's megathread. they have a ton of resources.
>>153349625white guy at a chris rock show
>>153340709Woke lefties think abortions are empowering and make women strong for killing their own babies in the womb. Amazon failed to read the room here.
>Yes, millions of babies will die to maintain the sexual revolution>but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make>>153349625Abortion being a known gene pool preserver.
>>153349638Yeah thats always a concern, but .sc was the one being talked about on leddit so I assumed it was legitimate.never go to these places without uBO and other shit anyway, obv
>>153349692White guy at a Black Panther meeting
>>153340682how do i respond without sounding mad
>>153347758The show would never make eve seem shitty much less for this. It's the same adaptation that brought you black cunt girl boss amber and had mark accuse sea salt of being sexist just for pointing out heroes get girls.
I tried to have an abortion, but couldn't. It turns out the baby was-
>kid should be mostly viltrumite>even if it's just a clump of cells, viltrumite cells are fucking impervious as proven in lab tests by cecil .....how'd they even abort it?
Angrstrom levy taking the aborted fetus to a dimension with giga high tech and regenerating the fetus. then raising the fetus as his own personal attack dog.
>>153343608>every single disabled person should have never existed and been terminated in the womb, eugenics is good!>it's ok for women to hold their children hostage for ransom and if you don't want to pay them for being retarded and irresponsibly getting pregnant then YOU'RE the one causing them to be born poor, and as we all know it's better to be dead than poor!You're doing great.
The only viltrumite Eve killed was her own baby. That's honestly hilarious.
>>153349830Mark didn't get his powers till he was 17
>>153349343black women have more abortions than every other race combined
>>153349692You literally don't need abortion to keep being a dumb slut. It takes extra stupidity and carelessness. Besides it being for getting rid of blacks I'm pretty sure they also get off on the sacrifice in general and use the parts for different things. I mean if they'll turn just baby foreskin into a commodity why not.
>>153349874You're thinking of the Chinese you stupid chink. Their government kills so many girl babies they cover up the real number.
>>153349858Still a better wartime performance than Oliver
Why did Debbie let Nolan marry her? She could have asked Mark.Also Thrags offer is more than generous peaceful and kind after they blew up his planet. Mark did well there i think
>>153349862oh yeah, nevermind
>>153349858And of course it's the fat bitch that spawn camps
>>153349858I came to this thread to make the same joke, kek
>>153349920I feel bad for OliverWeakest member of the strongest race, all because of bug pussyHe is brave and has serious balls and deserves to be stronger than Mark, but he never can be
>>153349962why do people dickride oliver's dumbass so hard?he's utterly useless
>>153349922Truth is they had no choice but accept Thragg's offerIt's either that or everyone on Earth dies, they have no way of stopping that from happening
>when I'll look at this baby, I'll remember you>when she'll ask about you, I'll tell her what a hero you wereAHAHAHA no
>>153349922Carry her*Jesus christ
>>153349922It's a pretty good deal all things considered, he could have made the whole planet enslaved and made breeding camps.He probably didn't want to risk Nolan, Mark, Space racer etc doing guerrilla warfare as he's tired of dead viltrumites
>>153349328Have God pop on down into Times Square to explain a thing or two about this fucked up mess of a world, then come talk to me about moral hierarchies
>>153349962>all because of bug pussyNah, he's young
TDLR me why Oliver loses his blue skin?
>>153349970because the kid has heart>sees conquest and how fucked they are but still tells Mark "come on pussy if we work together we might have a shot">is unphased by how hard he got his shit pushed in, immediately volunteers to go fight in the war for seconds>sees Thragg punch his dad at mach-20 into a planet>still goes straight at him with a punch and a jokehe's got balls, he's not a whiny little pussy like Mark (except when they were stranded)
>>153340682What’s another few months? She can always start over. Have another kid.
>>153350012Viltrumite DNA fully takes over
>>153349980Gotta hand it to him. The fact that he didn't install himself as grand emperor of earth is amazing. This was the best solution.
>>153350012Viltrumite DNA is so strong that it gradually overrides any other alien traits
>>153350043>>153350046So one day he's going to lose his fetish for bugs.
