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Fuck this hack. I've lost all respect for him.

https://gonintendo.com/contents/60095-miyamoto-says-he-finds-the-critic-response-to-the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-really
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>>153345615
Guess this is what happens when you love Marvel movies too much...
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>>153345615
I feel like it shouldn't be too hard to understand pacing concerns. You don't need to agree with it but this "I don't understand the problem, hrmm, maybe they're just assholes" response everyone has now over easy to understand concepts and opinions is driving me insane. It's like everyone has become braindead.
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>>153345615
He grew senile
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>>153345925
Japs genuinely have an altogether different way to process things than your average westerner. The cultures are very different so I could believe him not understanding it.
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>>153345615
He got a taste for Hollywood money and threw his morals out.
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>>153345615
/v/ just had this thread!
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737431374
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>>153345615
A COHERENT STORYLINE KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?
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>>153346178
And it was deleted because the tendies got mad.
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>>153346332
Or it was deleted because the jannies woke up
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>>153346373
Or the Bull Janny crosses over his fury to /v/ because it's a /co/ movie based on a video game board and banned OP for it. I know, because the Sonic movies can't be brought up on /v/ without an instant deletion.
>>153346087
You're really becoming a wannabe Birchy at this point.
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>>153345615
This is what did it? Not the brain dead sabotaging he's done to various games over his career?
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>>153346044
>Japs are culturally from another planet, they don't understand the difference between good media and bad media
This is such copout horseshit, the Japanese are perfectly capable of making quality media by western standards. Nintendo games are unironically more narratively compelling than their movies. They're just shitty products made by the most vapid movie studio there is.
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>>153346178
Yeah it's almost like it was copied and pasted here.
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>>153346044
If that were true most of their output would be just as trash as Miyamoto's
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At this point, the only things I want to hear from Miyamoto are a Star Fox announcement or a resignation.
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>>153345615
>The situations are similar, aren’t they? Actually, I thought the critics’ reviews of the first film were understandable. But I thought this time it would be different… and it was even harsher than last time, which I found strange (laughs). People from other genres are coming in and working hard to liven up the film industry, so it’s really strange that the people who are trying to liven up the film industry are so passive.
I think maybe to his sensibilities the sparseness of the film communicates a minimalist intention rather than an American lack of attention to care.
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>>153345615
>people didn't like that the movie was a bunch of random references instead of telling a proper story
Shock. Gasp.
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>>153345615
>when did he become such a stick-up-the-butt, pretentious little turbo-malding little dementia-riddled holier-than-thou washed-up has-been?
What the hell is that commenter on
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>>153345615
As a Jap, I found it strange too even though I didn't watch any of those movies, because many of western film critics were like ''I fucking hate this soulless cash grab and it's worse than AI'' instead of ''meh it's boring''.
I was like ''nigger, most hollywood movies are a boring cash grab'' so there was something about this movie that made it ''safe'' for critics to hate and I'm not sure what that is.
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>>153347167
main characters are all white people, none of them are gay, and it's not about being an immigrant.
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>>153347167
>so there was something about this movie that made it ''safe'' for critics to hate and I'm not sure what that is.
Stupid Jap.
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>>153347462
>and it's not about being an immigrant
Stupid Chud. Mario and Luigi are immigrants. And Italians aren't white.
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>>153346332
>>153346373
Thread had just reached bump limit. Should have just let it slide at that point.
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>>153347483
Never watched their movie but it can't be that bad, right? I assume it's pretty boring but there's no way people keep buying tickets if it's actually 1/10 and not even 4/10
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>>153347167
Nobody cares about generic Hollywood slop #99789789805445.
People care about Mario and were looking forward to this movie, thinking Illumination might have improved, hence the disappointment.
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>>153347529
the first one was arguably a little bit about this, which is why they went soft on it. The gloves were off for Galaxy.
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>>153346525
>>153346515
Japan barely knows why their games are succesful, given recent events. They give us fun mechanics or social options because "this is what I had to do on my adventure" or "people really seem to like this" rather than "the people demand this". The movie is pretty much the same thing as the first thought. "You people really like mario, so let's give them another mario thing." You're still right about Illumination not being the best choice to provide Mario with, but they probably captured nintendo's vision the best and the vision may not have included story elements.
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>>153345615
I thank Miyamoto for giving us Fox McCloud.
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>>153347901
company le make money??
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>>153347603
I agree 1/10 is dramatic, but 4/10 is honestly a very fair score. I thought the first animated Mario movie was a 6/10 if I was being generous, and I liked the Mario Galaxy movie even less than the first. The problem with adapting Mario to film is that you can't leverage Mario's greatest strength, the gameplay; and Nintendo and Illumination refuse to give these movies any narrative substance that makes up for the lack of gameplay. I would rather watch someone play Mario games than watch either of the animated Mario movies.
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>>153347901
>Nintendo is literally Mammon
>There are greedier
???
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>Miyamoto confirms the 'Peach is Rosalina's little sister and both are space goddesses born from stars' is going to be canon going forward
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/miyamoto-says-he-wants-peachs-origin-story-in-the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-to-remain-canon-in-future-games/

I think Miyamoto is genuinely senile and should be made to retire. This isn't the same man we once admired.
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>>153349103
As a Paper Mario fan, I can attest he's been out of touch for years at this point.
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Imagine being a dev who's worked on this series for years and years and you have all sorts of ideas for stories and characters that all get slapped down by Shiggy Diggy only for him to one day hand the keys to all Mario worldbuilding to the fucking Despicable Me studio
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It's kind of wild to me that my boss's nephew whose 8 thought the movie sucked.
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>>153349233
American mindset
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>>153349270
Smart kid.
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What was wrong with the movie?
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>>153347090
I think he meant to say that Miyamoto is too full of himself and lost all of his critical thinking, accepting everything as being good, and accepting no criticism regarding his work.

>>153345615

Not defeding this crap, but I think at the end of the day Miyamoto just wants money like every other businessman. He probably saw that the movie was successful in the west, and thought they should keep doing what they were doing.

I didn't like both movies, but I try not to rage too much because I'm aware that it is for kids and as long as they are entertained I reluctantly suppose it's fine, but it really wasn't a pleasant watch, and it did not feel like it was genuinely trying to take inspiration from the games, or at least from elements of the game that are familiar to those who grew up with it.

Peach in particular doesn't feel right, no matter how I look at her. both her looks and her attitude are off.
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>>153349442
Nothing. The critical response here is really strange.
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>>153349233
>doesn't want a story in Galaxy (game) and Rosalina's storybook had to be made behind his back
>hollywood wants to do a movie
>mm yes story is okay i love building characters
Kojima tier hackery
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>>153349442
The pacing’s as fast as a nigga on crack, making the story suffer. Plus, adding all sorts of stuff that wasn’t in the Galaxy games, even though, let’s be real, everyone flipped shit in theaters over the cameos.
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Why is Miyamoto talking about a crummy movie? He should be talking about the next Star Fox game.
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>>153349103
>>153349233
She's a kirby?
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>>153347927
>>153349588
CUTE!!!
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>>153347927
>>153349588
Bratty little fox with his slutty black lipstick..
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>>153345615
Shiggy has been out of touch for a long while now, he fundamentally doesn't understand that stories are what make things interesting, for a game having a basic plot is fine for the most part since it doesn't need to be deeper then "get to the end of the game" but when it comes to movies you need to do more then that even for a kids film there need's to be a larger driving force which galaxy didn't really have.

hell, they could've just done the heroes journey and it would've been fine but they couldn't even be bothered to do that much,.
>>153349585
I'd argue they could of cut the dinosaur scene out since it's only really there to pad out the length, they needed something else there maybe.
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>>153349588
god he's hot
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>>153345615
miyamoto lost his marbles fucking ages and ages ago. There's a reason Pikmin was the last original franchise, and it's already.. kinda stupid looking.
in any case these movies are garbage but so is everything they make now.
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>>153345615
>Fuck this hack.
>several decades of games
>more masterpieces than some devs have made anything
he is many things, but a hack is not one of them
he is one of the most consistently good devs out there and (figuratively) wrote the book on platform design
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>>153352100
he hasn't made anything since pikmin.
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>>153349442
It's incomplete. It's simply an incomplete script. Nearly everything it sets up, it either does a very quick payoff that almost feels like it's just brushing it away out of obligation (for instance, multiple scenes about Mario having a romantic interest in Peach, payoff is just like 4 seconds of Peach giving Mario a peck in the nose, not even time to see Mario react decently; multiple scenes about Peach wanting her family back, in the end she gets like one line of dialogue with Rosalina after she's rescued) or just doesn't bother to pay it off at all.

It's genuinely just this, movie-wise. There's choices in adaptation to complain about too, like Fox being there, but as far as the elements of the movie as a movie, it just feels like it's the second-to-last script pass that got filmed as if it's the final on accident and so they forgot to actually add any gravitas to payoffs. Imagine, dunno, Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader goes "I am your father", and instead of Luke having time to scream "that's not possible no no etc" then fall, he just goes "no" quickly and immediately disappears.
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Only people mad at Miyamoto are Chris Cahn tier autists
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If Miyamoto had retired in 2010, he'd have done so as the most respected person in the history of video games. He probably still could, but with every year he seems to make a point of looking more and more like an out of touch, meddlesome old fart.

Like, come on, man, if you're of the Mario movies and your contributions to thrm, be proud and be happy that kids seem to like them, but don't try to convince us they're actually good.
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>>153352250
>Chris Cahn


KAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNN
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>>153350447
You are out of touch. He's literally a producer of this movie even though he didn't direct it or wrote the story and can't even speak English. Of course he defends it.
What the hell did you guys expect?
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I wonder about the backlash to the critical reaction to this movie. gamers should already know that mario games don't have good stories.
so why are they surprised when critics who have to comment on the plot of a movie say the mario movie is bad?
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>>153353116
eh.. sort of
It's funny, everyone bashed the original mario movie for 'not being what mario is about' but it turned out most people didn't know the story. that literally is it, just changed from fantasy to a more pragmatic-for-live-action sci-fi setting.
all of us kids would say "mario is about running and jumping and growing big from mushrooms" because we were still dumb kids. But the actual story is 'plumber saves kingdom whose monarchy has been kidnapped/transformed, and its populace also transformed into a lot of surprising shit you wouldn't think'
there's loads you can do with that, and they did.. well, they did something with it.
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>>153347529
Mario and Luigi have blue eyes though
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>>153353281
Save the princess, save the Kingdom is the most generic story in the world, in that case you might as well call Zelda a Mario adaptation.

The 90's movie didn't look like Mario. I respect that it took a big swing. Lizard people inside the hollow earth trying to take over the world with their de-evolution ray was a creative interpretation, at least. But it didn't capture the aesthetics of Mario. Which isn't to defend tje animated movies, mind, the live action one was at least more interestingly bad.
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>>153346487
Pot calling kettle black
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The problem is he treats the movies like products to sell more video games rather than as a vehicle for actual storytelling. It's an entirely different medium, so it's kind of expected that the writing should reflect that.
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>>153345615
Didn't Miyamoto hate the fact that the original Super Mario Galaxy game even had a story in the first place?
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>>153353305
I feel like you have missed the forest for the trees, which is pretty sad because we're standing in a field.
It's not about the princess being saved, it's about the land being strewn with bizarre objects and items that used to be people, and taking back the magic wand from the demon lord to change back the transformed king. Also the hero is from far away but is managing, by using the skills from where he comes from.
I don't understand how anyone can think a better movie was possible in live action at that budget. They actually put THOUGHT into their setting. Like all the cars are electric and use bumper-car powering rails, because if the dinosaurs never died, there's no fossil fuels. fucking brilliant.
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>>153353389
>treats the movies like products to sell more video games
I would only believe that if they announced a new starfox. mario does not need any help marketing itself.
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>>153349233
He really got sweet-talked by Illumination. This wouldn't have happened if they didn't change her personality in movie 1, but I'm sure Chris said "this is garaunteed the only way the movie will be a success, movie audiences don't like characters like Peach, but if we make her a bitch..." and then it lead to this opening to go back and make her a space god with stupid powers from a 20 year old nixed idea.

If they just kept her more down to earth (no pun intended, i'm pissed) character, and adhered to the general main game personality, they wouldn't have felt the need to constantly push her higher and higher in the films, and would've kept her restrained. They also wouldn't have used Rosalina as nothing more than a device to make Peach even better while Rosa is nonexistant.
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>>153353552
No one said anything about Mario needing helping selling anything, just that Miyamoto treats the movies as glorified commercials rather than utilizing the medium for its actual purpose, which is to tell a story and expand on the characters in ways that the games can't or won't do.
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>>153353389
As >>153353524 pointed out, he doesn't see the point of games having stories to begin with.
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>>153352250
>obsessing over chris chan in 2026
the only people more autistic than that tranny are the terminally online virgins that still give attention to the faggot to substitute an actual argument against someone. Kill yourself already you socially inept fucking spaz.
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Miyamoto is a level designer and big ideas guy, he’s never been interested in storytelling yet questions why people hate an aimless movie in a medium where story is the core pillar
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>>153347927
>Furries have abysmal taste and/or no standards
Imagine my shock
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>>153354314
Which is a list of furry (male) characters they should be into instead?
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>>153345615
How can that jap NOT see that both it and the other movie are both obviously shit???
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>>153349103
Functionally speaking, what does Peach being Rosalina’s sister actually do that’s bad outside of annoying some yuri shippers?
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Fox correction.
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>>153354136
I mean, there's nothing wrong with non narrative movies. But they aren't exactly making Dog Star Man here. The bar for action movies and kids movies isn't exactly high, so it's telling that they fall short of even that.
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>>153352182
Lots of people haven’t done shit in decades. People seem to think that if an artist doesn’t do anything or makes a bunch of crap in their later years that they must have *always* been a hack fraud, because they can’t wrap their heads around the idea that humans are fallible and that most people put out their best ideas in the start or middle of their career.
After that point they either run out of material or they play it safe because they want to do other things with their lives.
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>>153354372
Yes, zero.
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>>153353533
>Like all the cars are electric and use bumper-car powering rails, because if the dinosaurs never died, there's no fossil fuels. fucking brilliant.
That is a nice touch, never thought of it like that.
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>>153345615
>Old-ass nigga that's been meddling in shit he doesn't understand and making things worse for over a decade
>Turns out he's bad at making movies and his meddling made things worse
It shouldn't be in any way surprising that Miyamoto is mentally lost. It's nothing new.
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>>153347167
For fuck's sake it's not complicated
There's no cohesion to the point it'a hard to even call it a movie. Each scene and set piece is totally divorced from everything else in the movie - they're all 6 minute standalone shorts that don't intertwine or inform one another in any way. You could cut any or all of the scenes in the body of the movie and no one would notice.
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>>153345615
Don't forget, the guy is old and, considering the quality of Nintendo, barely involved in projects anymore (I hope). Plus, if I'd see my own creation on the big screen, I would be too hyped to properly criticize it either.
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>>153354600
Zero is a robot not a furry
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>>153346547
>a resignation.
For what? It made money.
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You're all fighting a one-sided battle, kek. I'm not telling you to consume the slop, I'm just saying you're getting mad at things you're powerless to change. Your refusal to buy the Mario ticket will be drowned out by thousands of normalfags who will by the Bowser popcorn bucket. It will get worse, they will keep pumping out slop, and you won't be able to do a thing about it. Kids want bright colors. Parents want something inoffensive. Illumination is a trusted brand that consistently delivers that. Nintendo partnered with them because those values align with theirs. People vote with their wallets when they see something they want, and most normalfags just want "safe and familiar." That's why reboots and sequels sell. One generation wasn't raised up with an attention span deficiency by throwing addictive lights and sounds at them by mid tier parents. No one is defending anything, just pointing out what you're saying, really. This was garbage, but garbage sells. The people complaining about a lack of story or people who bought tickets for a pig race but expected horses.
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>>153353668
It seems like he feels the same way about movies. Maybe he just hates stories in general.
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>>153354600
Not even bowser?
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>>153354624
>they're all 6 minute standalone shorts that don't intertwine or inform one another in any way.
This is a valid movie format, though. It harkens back to films ike The Great Race, Cannonball Run, or It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World, where it's just an ensemble cast doing wacky shenanigans while working their way toward a single goal. In this case, saving Rosalina.

The reason people were (rightly) critical of the first film was because it was an origin story that depicted Mario as a plucky underdog with something to prove and attempted to craft a meaningful bond between Mario and Peach, but ultimately it moved too fast for a lot of those moments to land, never established a true emotional core, and even when it did it was mostly irrelevant. When Miyamoto says he felt like they fixed this in the second movie what he means is that, rather than fixing the pacing, they streamlined the plot to match it. The whole movie was just about putting the characters in silly scenes where they could bounce off of each other, and it did a good job at that.
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>>153354495
It's not only in so much that they are sisters in that their new origin story, they're being literal space goddesses born from nothing, is so vague and lame. It's much worse than Rosalina's original backstory, which explains how/why she came to be Mother of the Lumas and ties into the overall themes of the game, and it makes Peach (who is already given bloated levels of focus/importance in the movies) even MORE important by turning her into a goddess capable of creating life. It actively takes away Rosalina's uniqueness and gives it to Peach, who has thematically absolutely nothing to do with anything Rosalina has going on and is much better off being left to the Mushroom Kingdom itself.

Their being actual sisters I think is equally lame, but that in and of itself could potentially be done better at least. There's been theories about Rosalina/Peach being related for decades and I'm not going to suggest not a single one of those could be pulled off, but bludgeoning Rosalina to prop up Peach wasn't the way. Though I reiterate, I still don't think their being sisters is good either, it reeks of chasing the Frozen audience (which is funny given Elsa was sometimes accused of being a Rosalina ripoff when she appeared, now it's come full circle with her ripping off Elsa) with no thematic ties other than they're both blonde princesses. Peach and Rosalina have little to no interactions in the games themselves, if you wanted to make Daisy and Peach related (cousins as some old guides suggested) I wouldn't have an issue because they're thematically similar and team-up in just about every sports/party game.
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>>153357198
Reading drivel like this makes it really clear that Miyamoto is right, and you people are fucking weird for projecting this much onto literal video game polygons. If you want good stories and characters, you're supposed to read books or watch movies intended for adults. Not video games and cartoons intended for children. Sometimes something is just created to be colorful, distracting nonsense. Such entertainment has existed for centuries, but for some reason it's suddently a problem because insulated manchildren have made it popular to over-analyze childrens' media and insist that everything needs to be le deep epic adventure with profound character development.

It's "Bing Bing Wahoo" the movie. Literally what people wanted 33 years ago from the Hoskins movie. We finally got it, and there are butthurt adults who are angry that fucking video game avatars aren't being reated with proper respect. Lmao.
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>>153354624
Everything about it feels made for Tiktok, not the big screen.
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>>153345925
So this might be a matter of trying to translate language.
The actual meaning is distinct from what the words mean.
It sounds really passive aggressive, but it is more supposed to be polite confusion.
Because he's an idiot that thought that making a 90 minute movie as if it were three 30 minute sections you could watch in any order would be a satisfying experience.
He tried to make the Mario movie as if it were closer to how people engage with video games.
He made a categorical error.
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>>153352245
https://www.ndw.jp/mariogalaxymovie-interview-260422/
Here's the Japanese interview if you want to parse it.
The reason the film is that way is because Miyamoto fundamentally doesn't understand why films are structured the way they are.
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>>153354624
Well, I didn't watch it and I don't think that explains it all
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>>153357198
>Though I reiterate, I still don't think their being sisters is good either, it reeks of chasing the Frozen audience
This is perfect evidence of just how sheltered and ignorant the average /co/ poster is. You see a concept as simple as "two girls being sisters" and you suddenly want to claim it's copying it from other movies. Holy shit, go outside.
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>>153357198
>it reeks of chasing the Frozen audience
Frozen was 13 fucking years ago. And if they were "chasing the Frozen audience" they would have actually advertised some degree of connection between Rosalina and Peach instead of keeping it a secret the entire movie, only to reveal it at the very end.

The reason they made Rosalina Peach's sister is extremely simplistic and rather obvious; it's so at least ONE of the heroes has some sort of connection to her and motivation for saving her beyond simply foiling Bowser's plan. It gave some added weight to Peach's rescue attempt while the Bros. were off tag-teaming Bowser and son during the finale.
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>>153357697
>Two princess sisters either separated or estranged from child hood
>The younger goes out on an adventure seeking to save the older
>The older one is regal and serious while the younger is more energetic
>The princess sisters save the day through physical contact and caps with a heartwarming hug after reconnecting
You cannot tell me with a straight face Illumination did not have Frozen on the mind when coming up with this story. Of course it's not EXACTLY the same but it goes deeper than just being sisters. Minus all the drama that made Frozen interesting it's conceptually identical.
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>>153357857
>Frozen was 13 fucking years ago
Besides that being part of the point of how sad it is they're taking story beats from over a decade ago; Frozen 2 was only 6 years ago and also made over 1.5 billion dollars. Frozen 3 is in development. Frozen is still one of the most popular draws at Disney and I'm would not be surprised Illumination wanted a slice of that.
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>>153357857
I really don't like this excuse of needing them to be damn family to rescue someone. Mario couldn't rescue Peach in the first one and people were like "there's no way a guy would go save a cute innocent woman from captivity and her land being taken over" and now it's "well who'd give a fuck about rescuing a space princess with mighty powers if they weren't sisters?"

People are just doing the most braindead paths for stories these days where it all has to have some perfect huge reason about family instead of just, any emotional purpose to be a hero.
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>>153358003
This.
Why is saving the universe not enough motivation? Why is not being just good people and wanting to save someone in need enough motivation?
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>>153355805
Can't believe two of my posts were used as reposting fodder, damn. The third post ("One generation...") wasn't me, but he is right.
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>>153358003
>I really don't like this excuse of needing them to be damn family to rescue someone.
No. That's not what I said. Stop being disingenuous. The relationship existed to make the final rescue attempt more impactful for Peach. It had nothing to do with motivation; obviously she was plenty motivated to save Rosalina regardless of who whe was because she left to do so at the beginning of the film. Making them sisters had to do with putting something more personal on the line, as well as tying back to the fact that Peach was curious about her past in the first movie.

One minute you guys are complaining that things are too bare-bones, the next you're getting mad that they attempted to add something and just want it to be a mindless "SAVE THE PRINCESS" adventure. So which is it?
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>>153357976
>characters being sisters is a legitimate "story beat" and if you do it too it means you copied Frozen!
Again, I'm begging you to go outside. Your brain has been rotted by childrens' media.
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>>153358204
They sure failed at making it impactful because despite making them family it felt like nothing anyway and they barely said 2 words to each other in the entire fucking film. Would've served this type of movie far better if it was simply "rescue the space goddess because it is important" over a literal nothing connection that's doing more shit to Peach as a character in the game franchise itself than making anything of note in the film.
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>>153358204
Attempting to force personal stakes by making them suddenly related is extremely shallow and not only does nothing for either character, but lessens them.
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>>153345615
Is it really that hard to understand that film critics are Film School Faggots who demand everything that is made by Citizen Kane and only have overly dramatic crap in them from start to finish? The have nothing but pure-driven rage against any popcorn flick ever.
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>>153358724
They wanted an actual story. Not just a Nintendo ad.
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>>153360540
A Metroid movie would be to cataclysmically bad that it might bring about the end of the human species.
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>>153360540
>>153360584
Theoretically they could do Metroid under Illumination's currently unused adult division (Moonlight), but I highly doubt Nintendo or Sakamoto would be interested in making it an animated picture. I'd sooner hedge my bets on it being done at Sony after Zelda.
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>>153354314
You wouldn't want does black lips wrapped around your pecker?
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>>153360584
>>153360647
All you have to do to make a good Metroid movie is basically copy the manga. K-2L and early Zebes is act 1, G-Fed Police is act 2, and return to Zebes is act 3.

Alternatively, you have return to Zebes be the framing device around a bunch of flashbacks. Either way, it's not that hard.
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>>153361557
>Alternatively, you have return to Zebes be the framing device around a bunch of flashbacks

This is literally Other M except replace Zebes with the Bottle Ship. Fuck that.
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>>153361613
Trying too hard to fit in. It wasn't the -format- that made Other M's story trash, anon. If you're gonna go that far, might as well say that video games are bad because Other M is a video game. Calm down.
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Here's a cursed thought. They replace Pyonchi with Pikachu for Smash synergy.
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>>153361676
NTA but I don't want a Metroid movie that's half-flashbacks. Just give me a cool action movie where Samus shoots aliens and call it a day
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>>153361676
Yes, retard, the format contributed just as much as the shitty writing did. Jarring breaks in pacing, idiotic introspective pauses to reflect on something the player hasn't experienced, context that was neither needed nor wanted. It was shit in the game, and it would be shit in the movie. Metroid isn't some thought provoking avant-garde cerebral mess. It's an action game, and the format was shit for it.
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>>153361707
>>153361707
>Just give me a cool action movie where Samus shoots aliens and call it a day
Nobody would watch a movie where someone silently wanders around and shoots things.

>>153361718
>>153361718
>Metroid isn't some thought provoking avant-garde cerebral mess
Literally nobody was saying that, you buckbroken little bitch. It's been over a decade and a half, you're allowed to acknowledge that Metroid does HAVE a an actual story.
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>>153360540
>Illumination
>doing all of these
FUCK NO!
also shit bait since Snoy of all companies is making the LoZ movie
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>>153361557
>basically copy the manga
But they want a successful movie, so they can't go to merica with that ching chong kiddie comic shit. They need to make a talk show skit.
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>>153345615
>>153345615
You mean this response?
>The situations are similar, aren’t they? Actually, I thought the critics’ reviews of the first film were understandable. But I thought this time it would be different… and it was even harsher than last time, which I found strange (laughs). People from other genres are coming in and working hard to liven up the film industry, so it’s really strange that the people who are trying to liven up the film industry are so passive.

Really on what kind of stick did you shove up your ass?
I know the movie wasnt particularly good but your response to what he said was like you didn't even read what he said?

Seems like you are over reacting to a point that you are imagining shit.
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>>153361771
I didn't say "silently," you goofball. All I want is "Alien, but animated." Ripley talks, Ripley shoots. You know what she doesn't do? Have long droning flashbacks to her traumatic past.
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>>153362519
But Metroid isn't Alien. It's famously inspired by it, but the story is entirely different.

>You know what she doesn't do? Have long droning flashbacks to her traumatic past.
She also wasn't raised by alien monks. Which is kind of important context you'd need to establish in a Metroid film.
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Movie Peach is better than Game Peach.
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>>153362605
Movie Peach actually comes off as someone who runs a country.
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>>153356328
Anon I don't know what else to say except that every last word of this post was wrong
It's kind of incredible
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>>153362630
Something a princess shouldn't really be doing.
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>>153362650
Literally everything he said is true though. You straight up end up looking like you've no grasp of cinematic history when you act like that. You can say "I don't like movies made in this format" and that is fair but they have always been a thing and always been a valid approach in the medium.
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>>153362552
>She also wasn't raised by alien monks. Which is kind of important context you'd need to establish in a Metroid film.
Okay, that's a pretty good point
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>>153345615
Critics shot on anything that isn't pushing a woke or environmentalist political agenda. They only give good reviews to agitprop.
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>>153362605
Yes, we know you think she's "hotter" because everyone's got a retarded obsession with bitchy girls.
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>>153364545
Damn you could've just said you suck penis and left it at that
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>>153365240
Only simps that take it up the ass like bitches.
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>>153357551
He's not the writer or director, though...?
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Why do people expect video game movies to be good?
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>>153349233
>Making Peach being Rosalina's sister canon
This crazy son of a bitch just instantly turned dozens if not hundreds of yuri artists into incest artists. What a fucking mess.
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>>153365506
Back up man, your breath smells like day-old sperm
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>>153365644
Because it's doable. Rare, but doable.
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>>153365644
zoomies don't remember that period where hollywood just kept shitting them out and they all sucked
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>>153349588
I wanna rail Fox so bad. God damn he's beautiful.
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>>153365806
I want him to rail me
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>>153365644
I like things I watch to be good. Rewarding trash just yields more trash. Resignation to trash is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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>>153345615
>I've lost all respect for him
when has anything post Pikmin he's been involved in been good?
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>>153365806
>>153365998
Why do people get annoyed at straight furries whose entire personality is wanting to fuck Lola Bunny and Nicole Watterson, but nobody bats an eye when gay furries do it with furry men? Mario threads and Zootopia threads were taken over by people who only wanted to talk about how much they want Star Fox or the uwu lynx boi with daddy issues to rail their ass.
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>>153366810
>crtl+f
>about 6 fox hornyposts give or take
A little more than 4% of the thread at present.
Not to say that's not substantial, but it's also not quite taken over the thread.
I think it's been a little more prominent in the other threads?
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>>153366810
just people trying to rewrite history and say furry started out as an lgbt thing.
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>>153345615
>Fuck this hack. I've lost all respect for him.
He's been effectively senile or otherwise so out of touch with reality for decades now. They need to quarantine him from any actual projects because he's such a braindead fuck that he will wield his authority, which they don't have the nerve to take away from him, to sabotage games he doesn't like or derail projects because he had some quirky little idea he thought they should do instead.
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>>153350447
He's been stuck on the idea that all games should be mildly amusing novelties and quirky toys since the Wii. And if they can't be that, then they shouldn't be made at all.
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>>153366861
Yeah it's not really present in this thread, but it was worse in early threads when the movie first came out. Maybe it's died down a lot since then.
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>>153366810
tranny jannies are literally gay and delete s/fur shit so of course you'll see more faggotry in general
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>>153347927
>>153349711
>>153349588
>>153349756
Play the StarFox games and thirst for the real Fox instead of the shitty Starlord wannabe.
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>>153349442
Next to no story and bad pacing issues. Mainly feels they are trying to get to the next reference filled set piece as fast as possible and any plot points or character development is either dropped or 180d on out of nowhere
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>NOOOOOOO! I can't ship Peachalina because they're sisters now!
Yes, because that is the ONLY reason you should not ship characters of the same gender.
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>>153345615
He doesn't have to understand the critical response. He's not a film maker, he's not a writer, and Mario is not known for its narrative. He makes games. He's not an authority on cinema, and that's not why you liked him in the first place.
He has a $million$ reasons to like the movie, and that's a perspective you and I will likely never get a chance to contemplate
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>>153360540
Zelda's at Columbia/Sony
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>>153365644
Because it is reasonable to expect a product meet the bare minimum standard of quality regardless of prior market history. If these fucks actually have the balls to make a Metroid movie, then they had damn well better not fuck it up. You can go eat trash over in your little corner, anon, I'm still going to demand that my favorite video game franchise get the proper respect in adaptation.

>>153368430
Yeah, and it looks like ass ans proves why perfect design accuracy doesn't work in live action. It's just cosplay, and it looks fucking dumb.
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>>153368474
i bet there's going to be a scene in the movie where someone mocks link's hat
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>>153363672
>retconning the mole into Zero Mission

Hate.
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>>153368616
I mean, yeah probably. Yes, the trope of mocking an iconic thing from the series is also dumb (see, DMC Donte's mop wig), but don't go out of your way to be a dick about it. Yes, Link's hat does look silly in real life. Just don't have it in the movie then.
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>>153368654
They already did the "Mario doesn't like mushrooms hahaha, look how Peach has to force it down his gullet" shit. Maybe not having TTG writers and not being a cartoon will let them be a bit less pedantic about everything.
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>>153368661
... They're absolutely gonna make a TUUUUUBES joke, aren't they?

>Maybe not having TTG writers and not being a cartoon will let them be a bit less pedantic about everything.
Maybe? Here's hoping.
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>>153368690
i'm absolutely gonna slap your willy if you keep talking like that
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>>153352080
Miyamoto's kind of the same as he always was.
His peculiar brain works better for video games where you can string concepts like "what if the guy put on a tanooki suit and started to fly". He's always had a very lax, if not outright dismissive attitude toward story-telling. It's like he views things entirely in terms of vignettes, which would make sense, since his background was in cartooning.
This is why the Paper Mario fanbase have such a combative relationship with him, because he'll come in like "haha, Mario is paper. What if he was origami?", and veto all of the RPG character building.
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>>153352182
he gave the Splatoon devs pointers.
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>>153368654
Just have it in the movie and have it be normal.
Not the weirdest thing for someone to wear a pointy cap in a medieval inspired fairy tale kingdom. Literally just own it.
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>>153369952
>Splatoon storytelling is so bad that they have to release a spin off to actually give the characters introduced in 3 a proper story
Yeah, I can see it
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>>153362552
The "Feel" of Metroid is still the same as Alien.


Metroid is obviously not a horror game, since you play as literally the most competent person in the universe, but the horror atmosphere is all over the game. There's an interesting study to be made why Dread succeeded and MP4 failed. Dread leaned into the horror aura, MP4 which is certainly the Nintendo mandate is more like a Marvel movie. That's the Metroid Nintendo believes Metroid is.
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>>153366810
>Why do people get annoyed at straight furries whose entire personality is wanting to fuck Lola Bunny and Nicole Watterson, but nobody bats an eye when gay furries do it with furry men?
because furries are obnoxious and gay. Gay furries are obnoxious and gay. Straight furries are obnoxious and gay AND they have a persecution complex about it. Like so.
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>>153366810
You are on 4chan. On /co/. EVERY fucking thread on this board will devolve to people wanting to fuck the characters present as the thread subject
I don’t know why you pay focus on these specific trends or why anyone would be arguing against specific examples when this is the entire board
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>>153370290
Metroid is a mashup of Alien and Cobra, if you want to get specific about it. Space adventurers were very in in 80's anime.
I guess there's more than a little Star Wars DNA there too. Samus is a Boba Fett-like.
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The reason everyone posts about wanting to fuck Star Fox is because these movies made Peach and Rosalina unfuckable.
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>>153370467
I don't think Peach and Rosalina were ever fuckable.
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Does he not understand movies need STORIES?
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>>153369998
Splatoon 2's octoling DLC had some of the best Nintendo storytelling to date.
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>>153362351
That quote doesn't make him look any better. It's basically just him saying that he didn't understand the criticism to begin with and didn't even try to improve it.



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