Nolan is fucked
>>153345849WTF?!?Bruckheimer?!? OF ALL PRODUCERS?!? FOR A MUSICAL?!?!
>>153345849They gayed up Odysseus really bad.
>>153345896>Greek myths>"gayed" up
>>153345869A musical full of monsters and stabbing
>>153345849who??????????>picok this could be good
>>153345896>Some Puerto Rican trying to make a hamilton rip-ff created the definitive version of Odysseus for zoomers and Gen AlphasGrim, Herakles didn't get it so bad in comparison. I wonder who's going to make the definitive Perseus and Theseus for this generation.
>>153345917Yes. Odysseus is supposed to be a pussy slayer.
>>153345869Bruckheimer means it is never happening
>>153345917Poor Ganymede
>>153345917Yes, everything about it is fake newshttps://youtu.be/BNAT4ybsz_E?si=NQFgTxvHv_y-XvJChttps://youtu.be/GbOKIsMuNWU?si=vxqwZ0Xrfb1r19QY
>>153345849Oh I fucking hate this. I like Epic, I don't want Hollywood to get its grubby fucking fingers all over it just to score a quick buck from internet theater kids.
>>153346064Perseus is never happening unless he gets turned into a villain because Medusa is too popular, her classical origins are basically unknown compared to Ovid's interpretation at this point.
>>153345849>Thanks to JerryFor a sec I thought they were going to make "Tom & Jerry in The Odyssey"
>>153346477Don't these people realize that if Medusa actually killed Perseus, his mom would have been forcibly married off to the king and Andromeda would have been eaten by a sea monster? And Hercules never would have existed?Do they even know that Perseus was ordered to go after Medusa and that he didn't do it for personal glory?
>>153345849Eh, already watched the animatics stitched together as a movie. Some of them were REALLY impressive and worked with the music so well. I won't deny is tumblr and estrogen as fuck and i did tune out at the stuff with Thelemacus, but man, Ody reuniting with Penelope fucking brought tears to my eyes. One of the few times i've cried like a bitch to a film. Favorite songs were>Just a Man>Puppeteer>No longer you>Thunder bringer>Dangerous>Get in the Water>600 strikes>Hold them Down>Would fo fall in love with me
>>153346654No. They mostly don't know that. Perseus is literally the most likable of all the Greek heroes, kid just wanted to save his mom from being raped. He also arguably has one of the cutest romances in all of Greek myth with Andromeda (who is also one of the only figures who qualifies as a 'woman of color'). There are examples other than Medusa of sexually assaulted women being wronged by women and finding strength after the fact (like Io), but Perseus and Andromeda have no equivalents. If you make Perseus the bad guy there's no other unquestionably goodhearted chivalrous hero to replace him with nor is there is another other black princess with a fairytale romance.There are variations of the Medusa myth where she isn't related to Perseus' story at all like the rare variants where she is present at the Gigantomachy, or where she is Athena's sister, that would be interesting to see explored but the majority of Greek myth fans have never heard of 'scholia' and I wouldn't trust Hollywood to do research like that.
Is it ok to fuck with peoples' livelihoods as long as you're being funny?
>>153346808>I won't deny is tumblr and estrogen as fuckI'm not so sure about that. Outside of Polites (who is absolutely a Tumblr darling) and Hermes being camp as fuck, most of the musical is fairly manly for the most part. All of Odysseus' emotional moments are understandable, and there's plenty of action and rage to be had - Odysseus (the song) is probably the most intense interpretation of the Slaughter of the Suitors I've come across admittedly I didn't realize 600 Strike was supposed to involve using the wind bag as a jetpack from the music alone, that was kind of silly.
>>153347116There's this one song that's apparently really "triggering", so much so that it made a few reactors start crying, which makes it kind of based.https://youtu.be/d436KMn0Phw?t=622https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z38SJJ5avck
>>153347060people actually look at google map reviews?
>>153347191>retards getting triggered over a song about an abuser gaslighting her victim, in so doing unironically falling for the gaslightThe fact they took Odysseus's panicked "I love you" at face value tells you everything you need to know about these kinds of people. I bet they clutched their pearls at Odysseus saying the word "rape" in his song, too.
600 strike would have been a better song if the background chorus said "600 NIGGAS" instead
>>153345849But will it have the generic Disney/CalArts style or will it have its own look? Will it be CG or hand-drawn?
>>153346473Imagine all the animatics that'll get struck with copyright
>>153347542Most of them have a shitty anime artstyle anyway, there's only a few select ones that seem to even do anything with the greek myth anglehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVx7GQ8Oh0U
Turning greek gods and heroes into a fandom was a mistake
>>153347805Blame Percy Jackson
HHHNNNGGGGGGGGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98DlVO1eIOo&list=PLQU8dnDKb0VbhMTtxtOO3Gk64kwZxL8ir&index=3
>>153345849They never fuck with productions about jewish myths and history for some reason. It's always greeks this and vikings that. Where is my gay Moses and black Abraham?
>>153347805Blame those damn poets for turning the morally righteous gods into playthings for their fetishes.
>>153347984Don't you have little boys to molest Plato?
>>153347849I blame the greeks for not figuring out a way to take Greek mythology out of the public domain
>>153348027I wish I could read, guys.
>>153348027that's Socrates dude
>>153347969Because Christians and Jews are still active practitioners of their faith and there are a lot of them. There are very few Hellenic or Nordic pagans around to complain. Christians and Jews are both very touchy about fictional depictions of their religion's mythology, just a very hard audience to please. Being monotheistic faiths the cast of characters also feels kind of small compared to Greek myth, and while Norse pantheons weren't very big they have colorful characters and enough inherent conflict for 'cool' stories.People just aren't familiar enough with other mythologies. Part of the problem is that Greek mythology just left many more surviving works than say, Irish or Celtic.
>>153345849Is Greek mythology going to get even gayer?
>>153346654They don't even know who Perseus is.Meanwhile they will argue that Perseus must have been a straight white male. While at the same time will argue that Greeks are not white at all but noble Turkic peoples who were colonized by the Europeans and forces to Christianize. >Actually heard someone say this to me before.
>>153348252Not until this gets adapted
>>153348252is that even possible?
>>153346654You must be new.Greek Mythology has been hijacked by the LGBT camp as the definitive positive accepting religion with beliefs that there are gods dedicated to being Gay or Trans. While Feminists have latched onto it in a huge way but actively ignoring about 90% of the myths and inventing their own special interpretations. >They like to claim the Amazons were actually a stronger faction under the "goddess of women" Hypolita>They also like to think that Ares is an evil CHUD interpretation, that is in no way associated with the Amazons>They also like to pretend other characters like Calypso was the goddess of revenge against men.Some of their views on Hera and Zeus one might think would attract thunderbolts of judgment towards them.
>>153348386Yes, for example, Artemis personally rapes that nymph instead of having a man fo it.
>>153348193good point, I mean, what would these people do exactly?
>>153346654I don't mind things like this because these stories are old as balls. People are going to reinterpret them and you don't have to agree with them. Also>89 notesthis is such a nothingburger. There's been lots of depictions of Perseus and Medusa that's been played completely straight.
>>153348738Yeah because this shit is on the same level as Homer and Hesiod
>>153345917Classical Pederasty really doesn't resemble anything the modern LGBT movement wants ti be associated with.
does eurylochus get to say nigga in it?
>>153349403It would be epic if in the song mutiny he said "I'm just a nigga!" instead
>>153345849Huh, I didn't know about the existence of this musical. Searching a bit about it, it seems I'd seen the thumbnail a couple of times before, but I never bothered to look at it. Heh. Looks like I missed out on a gem.I finished The Odyssey last year, after reading it for about three years. I like to savor long stories slowly. So I'll check it later.Btw, the Spanish duo "Destripando la Historia" also made an animated musical inspired by the Homeric tale, titled "Ulises". Luckily, it has English subtitles.https://youtu.be/azzEfyGUfX0?si=3VWKS4eFSRmo2O6w
>>153349763>UlisesRoman fucks
>>153349403>was the one to constantly warn Odysseus about dealing with the Gods early on>then refused to listen to his captain about not eating the Sun god’s cowsDumb nigga deserved getting zapped. It’s even worse when you read up and learn he wasn’t just Ody’s first mate but his literal brother-in-law and he still kept starting shit.
>>153345896Beyond him being played by the writer (and the Polites stuff), they didn't really make Odysseus gay at all. His entire motivation is returning to his wife. There was even a song detailing his and Polites' friendship that was cut for being way too faggoty.That said, I have no doubts that Achilles will be written to be gay as Hell.
>>153350636There's not even a single homosexual in this entire musical
>>153350657I mean technically zeus because he did try to fuck a guy once as I think a golden shower or some other goofy shit like that because zeus is just weird like that
>>153350336>but his literal brother-in-law and he still kept starting shit.That's partly why I love Odysseus rebuking him with "you know you'd have done the same" in Mutiny. Because fuck dude, Odysseus would expect the dude who married his sister to have the same level of devotion he had to Penelope, and the fact that Eurylochus just seemed to give up probably pissed Odysseus off something fierce.
I hope they make Circe, Penelope and Aphrodite hot
>>153350709Maybe within Greek Mythology but within the Epic the Musical no one has been canonically listed as gay so it's funny that a musical dedicated to a guy trying to get back to his wife whilst being seduced by an entire cast of women is "gay" to some people.
>>153350890Aeolus is technically gender fluid I think since anyone was allowed to audition for the part and Aeolus is a male in greek mythology
>>153350918I think everyone just calls Aeolus a woman
>>153350862I'm hoping Athena is also shown to be beautiful, but I'm biased since she's my favorite Greek god.
>>153350988>Here's your virgin goddess
>>153351034Virgin beauties associated with war are nothing new.
>>153350862For me it’s gigi’s Circe.
>>153351065For me it's....erhm, whatever they were trying to do with Penelope herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHyxvEYKdsw
>>153350918aeolus also wasn't a god in the actual story but I think a random king on sky island
>>153345917only a fucking retard redditor like yourself could have such a stupid idea that "GREEK WAS ALWAYS GAY UHH PFFFT."
>>153348193Isn't it great?
>>153351117Well she was a Spartan princess so I guess it kind of fits?Also explains why 108 dudes were willing to wait for years, men of Ithica have excellent taste in lovely muscle ladies.
>>153351117>>153350862For me, it's this Penelope
He should make a Telegony saga just for the seethe it could cause
YOU KILLED MY SHEEPMY FAAAAVORITE SHEEP!
>>153351204she was the ruling queen of the island and they were also nobles so marrying her is a straight shot to being the new king
hear me out...
>>153351373>Literally sings about how she and Odysseus are the same, a la Catherine and Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights>Odysseus doesn't get with herIs he stupid?
>>153351373fun fact, scylla is the way she is because circe got jealous a sea god found scylla hot and used magic/potions to turn scylla into a monster
>>153351373I am deeply, deeply attracted to pretty much every interpretation of Scylla.
>>153351436>>153351373Understandable
>>153351194Feel bad for other European pantheon's fans. Us Greek myth bros are doing pretty well. The scope of material expands if you are willing to accept material from Rome, Etruria and North Africa via interpretatio Graeca.>>153351241FUCK the Telegony
>>153351594Glad to see another Telegony hater.It will NEVER be canon.
If doobs, Sisyphus will be featured in the movie and "Me and the Birds" will play.If treeps, the same thing will also happen in Nolan's movie.
>>153351373>>153351490>>153351490>>153351392Circe learning the hard way about the monsterfucker community
Since we're talking about old stories, are there any adaptations of the Aeneid?
>>153351607Odysseus returned to Penelope and they lived happily ever after. The end. So much about the Telegony is stupid as fuck and it contradicts Tiresias telling Odysseus he would live till old age.It's kind of like the clone subplot in the Trojan war, people choose to ignore it for good reason.
>>153351677The Telegony is like the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy for the Odyssey.
>>153351689dude made an OC to get with his waifu Penelope, embarrassing
>>153351373I'm all ears...
>>153351677There are actually more retarded variants of the myth. There's a myth of Penelope fucking one of the suitors and getting banished by Odysseus when he got home, another one where she outright fucks all 108 of them, there's another where Telemachus encounters the sirens and then they kill him once they realized he's Odysseus' son.Alot of ancient Garth Ennises thinking they were being funny and clever
>>153345849Will they sing about how no one else can do the things Odysseus does?>>153350988Thought she was cool until I started reading about her constant fuck-ups.
>>153350988She's supposed to be, just a bit on the tomboy side by the culture's standards. She looks pretty enough in the surviving statues of hers, we even have some documentation of people lowkey waifufagging over their preferred goddess's statues.
>>153351704reminds me how lancelot was added by french writers to the whole arthur stories back then too>there's this french knight>and he's super pretty>he's a better sword fighter than arthur>he also cucks arthur too>and so on
>>153351761Don't get me started on variants for Theseus. Some heroes the greeks had...
>>153351768her being really tomboy-like make sense when you remember she's 100% zeus daughter as in she was made only from zeus and just how much she was zeus favorite kid
>>153351777I'm assuming most of this board would approve of kidnapping a 12 year old girl however>>153351795pic related
>>153351761Oh there's her fucking Hermes too. Her shagging anyone during Ody's absence seems stupid to me, there was just too much at stake. But I can absolutely 100% believe that edgy horny silly people were circulating salacious takes on the stories."Trust me bro, she fucked ALL of them.">>153351772I don't really have an attachment to Arthurian tales so I don't mind Lancelot but I can just imagine the seething he used to cause.
>>153351761>Alot of ancient Garth Ennises thinking they were being funny and cleverJust goes to show that being edgy and irony poisoned is something humanity has dealt with throughout history. For every tale of genuine hope, heroism and love, there will be at least two retarded faggots who try to rewrite it because "happy endings are for losers".
>>153351768>Valkyries>Athena>Some would include Bastet>St. Joan of ArcOlder generations really liked pretty war maidens, didn't they?
>>153351795There's actually alternate parentages for her that I really like they just aren't very popular anymore. Like her being the daughter of Metis before Zeus ate her, or Poseidon, or the daughter of Poseidon's son Triton, or being born directly from the waters of lake Tritonis or being born directly from the earth (making her Gaia's daughter and sister of Medusa in that variant).
For me, it's the Underworld
>>153351850wife who can fight back or beside you is just one of those universal appealing ideas for a lot of guys
>>153351850The Bible spoke about this
>>153351823in fairness the ancient Greeks had odd taste compared to modern standards. Read enough dramas or tragedies and then reflect on how you can't get away with writing stories like that anymore. I think they just liked stories that roused strong emotion. You have to take the good when you can get it, which is why a writer trying to make things even worse feels so cheap.
>>153351850>Older generations really liked pretty war maidens, didn't they?Read Beautiful Fighting Girls by Tamaki Saito.
>>153351899Actually cried at the part with his mom.
>>153352035I actually laughed at that part because I thought for a second he casted a 50 year old spanish hotel maid for the musical
>>153351998>ANONYMOUS On the Cnidian Aphrodite and on the Athena in Athens [statues] :>Gaze from every side at the divine beauty of the foam-born [Aphrodite] and you will say, “I applaud [Paris'] judgment.” Again when you look at the Attic Pallas (Athena) you will cry out, “It was just like a neatherd for Paris to pass her by.”>HERMODORUS On the same : >When you see, stranger, the Cnidian [Aphrodite], you would say this, “Rule alone over mortals and immortals" but when you look at Pallas in the city of Cecrops boldly brandishing her spear you will exclaim, “Paris was really a bumpkin.”people never change
>>153351677It's also stated that Circe had more than 1 kid with Odysseus but in the odyssey, he only stayed on her island for a single year
>>153352137Fraternal twins?
>>153352116Imagine getting into ancient waifu wars
>>153345849https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCpFMf2rzPchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe8AMFFrxFg
>>153352436Autism, just pure fucking autismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP3Blu4JOOw
unrelated to the Odyssey or culture war bullshit, but my favorite little bit of Greek cosmogeny subtext is Nyx's kids with Erebus being Aether (god of light, basically) and Hemera (goddess of day)... and then the kids she has without Erebus being embodiments of death, fear, betrayal, etc.she did NOT take the divorce wellthat said i generally prefer a cosmogeny that just has them all be Erebus and Nyx's kids, as it doesn't change much. neither figures into many myths, and it's fun to imagine that Nyx and Erebus are just this singular happy, healthy, long-term married couple, together since basically the dawn of creation, both looking disapprovingly at all the dysfunctional nonsense everyone else was getting up to while minding their own business
>>153345896You mean made the entire thing interesting instead of boring slop. I couldn't be assed to watch any movies prior to the musical
>>153352512it's extra funny to think about that since nyx is the night itself while erebus is primordial darkness
>>153349763Try to forget the characterizations. Think of the musical as its own universe and lore
>>153352512I prefer that cosmogeny too.There are a few other nice couples though. Aphrodite and Ares seemed to mostly do well together despite the messy start. Hephaestus and Aglaea is cute too especially if you go with the version where they were childhood friends. Andromeda and Perseus. idk why Zeus and Hera are so fucked up when they're supposed to be the main couple of the mythology.
>>153352638The greeks made alot of distinctions like that.>Here's the personification of the sea (Pontus) and here's the god who rules over that sea (Poseidon)
>>153352771tartarus is the most confusing one
Any myth you'd like to see adapted? And conversely, a myth you'd hope they not?>want: the GigantomachyIt's a pretty straightforward story from what we know and since there's no definitive text it's harder to fuck up than other stories. Just make sure every Olympian is there, that Heracles is there, and give them some cool fight scenes and call it a day.>don't want: anything with Persephone and Hades or anything with Prometheus and Pandorathere's no way I'd trust Hollywood to not fuck it up.
>>153352816I want a mythologically accurate Medusa (or atleast accurate to the Archaic era anyway). And a proper Seven against Thebes adaptation (That Dwayne The Rock Hercules movie doesn't count)Also, Hades and Persephone adaptations are fucking dime a dozen at this point
>>153352816I'd like to see an adaptation of Perseus and Andromeda's wedding.
>>153352816My nigga Bellerophon needs some love
>>153352638it's actually somewhat mirrored in the "primordial light" of Aether and Hemera being the day itself. even when they also have the rest together, those two are still generally their first children (albeit depending on where the cosmogeny puts Eros - they get fucking nuts with his geneology)
>>153352816that one myth where a guy spots artemis bathing and she turns him into a girlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siproites
>>153352875I kind of agree, but it's mostly limited to the world of books and a few webtoons right? I don't think there has been a Persephone/Hades film in recent memory (does Hadestown count?). If it was to get done I'd want one that actually adhered to Hymn for Demeter, there's so much going on symbolically that I think you could make a movie for it that expressed the Hymn's themes and intent I just don't think it is ever going to happen.
>>153352936lmao that also happened to Tiresias. In some variants of his myths he comes upon Athena while she is bathing and she turns him into a chick.Relatedly I got major force-femme kink from that Labour where Heracles became Omphale's slave.
>>153352679they're fucked up probably mostly because of how fucked up Zeus is. he gets it honest, though.
My daughter made me listen to this shit in her car the last time I visited. I didn't use to hate musicals but this score is fucking tripe that made me homesick for HAMILTON.
>>153352936maybe Arty should stop bathing in random rivers, or set up some lookouts or something.
>>153353067you think she isn't doing this shit on purpose
>>153353067>Implying she's not trying to get caught
>>153353078>>153353072lol I kinda thought the same. This is as close as she gets to sexual contact and she likes punishing hapless mortals anyway.
I like the Hades and Persephone story because no matter what variant of it you use, the kidnapping rapist or consensual romance or Zeus okayed it etc, the whole crux of it is Demeter having a woman moment and flipping out.
>>153353110Flipping out was basically her only option. Threatening to kill off all the humans and subsequently 'starving out' the gods (dead humans can't light sacrificial fires) was all she could do. And going by other myths part of why she was doing so badly was because Poseidon had assaulted her while out searching for her daughter, and she'd accidentally been fed human at a banquet. She was understandably not happy. In the end her flipping out worked, it's why she was able to see Persephone again.
>>153351677>It's kind of like the clone subplot in the Trojan warThe WHAT
>>153353479>doesn't know about the clone subplotit's terrible>But some say that Hermes, in obedience to the will of Zeus, stole Helen and carried her to Egypt and gave her to Proteus, king of the Egyptians, to guard, and that Alexander repaired to Troy with a phantom of Helen fashioned out of clouds.-Apollodorus, Library (epitome)>"And according to some, he discovered Helen at the court of Proteus, king of Egypt; for till then Menelaus had only a phantom of her made of clouds"-Apollodorus, Library (epitome)>". . . But Hera, indignant at not defeating the goddesses, brought to naught my marriage with Paris, and gave to Priam's princely son not Helen, but a phantom endowed with life, that she made in my image out of the breath of heaven; and Paris thought that I was his, although I never was,-an idle fancy!"-Euripedes, 'Helen'TLDR: Helen was never in Troy. Hera replaced her with a cloud clone and sent Helen away to Egypt. The entire time that everyone was fighting, ten years, over a cloud. They fought for a woman that was never there and had never even been taken. This is not even the first time Greek mythology has featured cloud clones. For obvious reasons, this variant of the epic cycle is usually disregarded.
more like jerry buckhurtsmer
>>153353572>This is not even the first time Greek mythology has featured cloud clones.God I love mythology, its always the wackiest shit.
>>153353639The other times I can remember cloud clones (off the top of my head) are Ixion and a variant of Endymion. Both are invited up to the heavens, fall in love with Hera and are fooled by cloud clones shaped to look like her. Once caught they are sent down to Hades. Ixion gets fixed to a flaming wheel and spins around endlessly in Tartarus specifically.Given how the cloud clone is basically Helen apologia to absolve her of wrong doing it makes me side-eye the Ixion myth and I wonder if in an older variant of the story if he actually fucked Hera and the myth amended to keep Hera faithful and Zeus uncucked.
For me, it's Hestia
>>153352995Hera is the poster girl for crazy turbobitch though>>153353572That's some X-Men comics tier bullshit ages ago, love it>>153351772>>153351820The worst part is that the version with the french gary stu OC became the best known version of the story. This may seriously be the most successful troll from a frenchie towards the br*ts, ever.
>>153351807Pic rel was literally me that time I dreamt about an owl and thought that the goddess Athena visited me. In the dream, I was in a square in some European country, those fully paved squares surrounded by buildings. It was nightime, and the square was illuminated by lampposts. Suddenly, an owl appeared and flew across the night sky, going back and forth across the square, and I enjoyed watching the bird fly, land on the grund or a lamppost, and take flight again, and so on. Nothing more happened and wake up. After that, I searched for the meaning associated with the owl, and I discovered that it is related to wisdom and, in Greek mythology, to the goddess Athena. I like to imagine that the goddess Athena visited to me that night, and delivered me a message that, until this day, I quite don´t understand.The funny thing is that I've never been to Europe in my entire life, that place mysteriously came into my dream on its own.
>>153354420she's bestia
Hestia > Athena > Hera > Demeter >> Artemis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AphroditeProve me wrong
>>153353572>>153353712I think at least part of it was explaining why the Trojans didn't do the sensible thing and hand over Helen. That variety of autism is also very ancient, and "they didn't have her, the real Helen was in Egypt" is at least an explaination. It's an ancient No-Prize.>>153351772That's why The Quest for the Holy Grail is nothing but "actually, Lancelot SUCKS!" over and over
>>153356495why does Hera rank over Demeter
>>153356987I briefly forgot about Heracles' story.
>>153352816>Any myth you'd like to see adaptedPsyche and Eros, but the C.S. Lewis version.
>>153356495Where Persephone at?
>>153351242I actually fucking love that design for the cyclops. Absolutely out of nowhere design that I adore. And yes, Polyphemus did nothing wrong
>>153356495>No CalypsoShe's a goddess!
>>153345849Honestly I'll take a peppy musical over whatever the fuck Nolan thinks he's doingWhat I'm wondering is what songs are gonna get the axe to fit in the confines of a film.
>>153348252They can try...
>>153348386If they dedicate 30 minutes to intense high impact sex scene between Achilles and Patroclus to European techno music. which is mythologically accurate...
>>153351194At lest Snorri had the wherewithal to write that shit down to be remembered, even if it was 300 years after everyone converted and the information was mostly useless. The historic preservation it created was priceless.Too bad the Iberian and Gaul Celts never had anyone do that for them. Best we got for those guys was Julius Caesar saying they really liked a god that kinda sorta looks like Apollo if you squint real hard.
>>153351772Weren't writers adding in their own OC knights for centuries?The Green Knight seems a little tacked on too. While others seem more like the author confused the Arthur stories with some other characters from a totally different story.
>>153357738We need more mythologically accurate norse kino, Thor's child slaves included
>>153352512i liked how there was basically a second family of gods that did other things too but were not as popular as the main Olympians of Zeus's line.
>>153357738There is also the fact that paganism in Northern Europe was alive for about a thousand more years after the Iberians and Gauls were converted. There were a lot more surviving artifacts to see and draw information from.
>>153357781The Green Knight feels like a much older story.
>>153356495Paris you moron
>>153352464>Autism.How is making a fan video using a love song counts as autism?
>>153358471I'd die on the spot
>>153357609They probably won't cut anything and put it into two parts or make it a whole 2hrs 22 minutes.
>WHO PUT THE HERA IN HERAKLES?
>>153351490>>153351373These two are my favorite versions of her.
>>153356495Hestia doesn't do shit, though. Like sure you can say she doesn't hurt anyone but she also doesn't help anyone. She's just there.
>>153359153I find her roman counterpart Vesta more interesting, imagine have 6 waifus swearing an oath of chastity to her (and then getting buried alive because you broke it, doesn't matter if it was consensual or not)
>>153346425lmao you unironically believe that guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc4_36INQ5A
People on this site will whine about gay Odysseus and then go jerk off to Loud House and Bluey cartoons
>>153358763Omphale?
>>153359210I think she's more interesting too and arguably has a few more myths dedicated to her but Hestia comes across as 'nicer'.>>153356495I'm surprised Demeter isn't more of a waifu. Every time she does something bitchy it is entirely warranted, she's otherwise fairly chill and is actually willing to take on mortal lovers.
Hestia is bestia because I like older sisters who know how to take care of a home
>>153359941>Every time she does something bitchy it is entirely warrantedKilling literally everything and everyone with endless snow and cold because your daughter ran off with a broody bad boy is not warranted. Being pissed, sure. Involving all of humanity, none of whom were even involved, goes too far.
>>153345849This better not be a fakeout like Alex Alice's Siegfried.I'm still mad about that one.
>>153360067For the uneducatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agE5ImTuW4
>>153360000she was kidnapped, she didn't run off
>>153360198Depends on the version of the story. In some Hades went and asked Zeus if he could marry her, and as Persephone’s father Zeus had final say.
>>153345849Now that I think about it, I'm surprised there aren't more mockbusters and bandwagon productions being rushed out. The story's public domain so it's easy as pie to do.
>>153359603...what's supposed to be the connection?
>>153362312Not that I'm saying they would do this but if the Epic legal team decided to start going after other internet creators trying to make their own odyssey adaptations/retellings, there's a decent chance they could get away with it
>>153362717Not really, only if those adaptations blatantly copied Epic's designs or specific adaptations.
>>153346473Bingo. Download any fan animation you like because it's on a limited lifespan
>>153362884Well there's starting to be alot of "odyssey inspired" projects that aren't directly affiliated with Epic but it's kind of obvious what prompted these in the first placehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4198670/Odyssey__Echoes_of_Ithaca/
>>153351379>refuses the advances of goddesses >"surely the cursed monster who proceeds to literally devour six of his men has a chance?"Your failure to resist the wiles of monstergirls is why you would have never made it back from Troy
>>153358759You're forgetting this is animated. So they're going to cut what corners they can and you'll be lucky if it makes feature length.
>>153363492I mean songs like Charybdis, Luck Runs Out and Open Arms could probably be cut (as well as most of Polites, really). I just worry they'll shortchange the violent bits like Ruthlessness or Odysseus.
>>153363611>cut the most integral plot device and the main character's best friend which is what drives the main character's entire story arc.That would be retarded
>>153363611>>153363749I can imagine Troy being mostly relegated to a flashback or opening narration. The most 'important' song from that part is Warrior of the Mind anyways. Polites has to say but I can see Open Arms being reduced to a musical refrain scoring a conversation of him and Odysseus saying how much they trust and value one another so you know it's a big deal when he gets clubbed like a baby seal
>>153348345I remember my mom getting this book because she thought I might like to read it. I had to explain to her that it was not a modern addition to theilliad, but in fact gay fanfic.
>>153363778>The most 'important' song from that part is Warrior of the Mind anyways.Just A Man is pretty damn important both narratively (killing Astyanax fucked Odysseus up pretty badly and established that Ody is just a puppet of the gods) and musically (the emotional climax of Would You Fall In Love With Me Again is punctuated by the main motif from Just A Man).
>>153352436>>153352464god bless i love shit like this
It's a shame how much of Telemachus' stuff got cut out, but most adaptations of the Odyssey tend to focus on the first half.
>>153352782>TartarusErebus actually has the same EXACT conflation with his name being used to refer to the underworld, and in a few versions was literally equivalent to Tartarus.>>153358136i agree. one of the things i like about it is that it also puts the Olympians and Titans in perspective - they're not the way they are just because they're deities. Nyx and Erebus are two of the oldest and most primordial entities in basically every cosmogeny, frequently being the first beings to actually exist (Chaos isn't necessarily personified, even when Nyx and Erebus come from it)... and they don't really bother anybody, other deities included. they rarely appear in myths, meaning in practice in the mythology, they largely left mortals alone (besides the direct impacts of their domains on mortals). there were some outliers that appeared more often in myth, but importantly they weren't necessarily antagonists. there wasn't much in the way of inter-deity conflict involving them either, ESPECIALLY compared to the Titans and Olympians. they generally aren't participating directly in whatever a given myth's conflict is.some of this infrequent appearance is because they were largely associated with the underworld, and thus a bit taboo to talk about, but i think this probably snowballed over centuries into those gods just not being popular enough to appear in myths compared to the gods being more actively venerated.there is also some confusion between "personifications" and "deities" in cosmogenies/theogonies, but generally if something was personified it ended up being deified as well in some corner of the Hellenistic world at some point.
>>153364440It's funny at how many epic fans have no idea as to what mythological Telemachus was actually like, he goes full Andrew Tate on Penelope in the original
Apparently they just found the Catalog of Ships inside of a bunch of ancient coffins.
>>153364542I mean, didn't the same thing happen with Hades?
>>153365613not as impressive as the Athena statue they revealed in Turkey yesterdayhttps://www.turkiyetoday.com/culture/archaeologists-discover-giant-marble-athena-statue-in-ancient-laodikeia-in-turkiye-3218661?s=1There's video of her statue being lifted and dusted off in the above link. I hope they will be able to find her head as well.
>>153366617essentially, yes.
>>153349256Hey hey people
>>153366679>>153365613What the hell is going on, gods rising up?!
>>153367049The statue is a bigger find than the papyri IMO, people stuffed mummies with all sorts of weird shit. Guess Athena was tired of her dirt nap. I'm waiting on more finds from the Herculaneum scrolls.
>>153345849Great, now the Hollywood musical theater fags are going to make Greek Mythology gay.
>>153367344the tragic gayification of greeks, a race known for being extremely hetero
>>153367344You're a bit late to this, anon. Song of Achilles/Percy Jackson already came out.
>>153367344you jest, but I know goddamn well that headline is going to happen from Fox News at some point in the near future.
>>153367378Is Percy Jackson gay? I thought it was run of the mill hetero stuff because it was aimed at kids.
>>153367499It's straight, but it has really gay fans.Epic is also all about a guy trying to get back home to his beloved wife, but the fans are pretty gay.
>>153367510funny how that happens . . .
>>153350336>Has no hesitation to suggest that he and Odysseus just bail the rest of the crew to Circe>Gets his skirt in a twist when Odysseus has to sacrifice 6 of the crew to Scylla for safe passageYeah, he had it coming.
>>153360541Zeus okaying the marriage doesn't make it not kidnap when neither Demeter nor Persephone knew about it beforehand. In every version of the story Hades had Zeus' consent (unless you are talking about a rare scholia I haven't seen) but things still go badly. Also after Hades took her Zeus still didn't tell Demeter what happened so she had no reason to think it wasn't kidnap until later when they finally found out what happened.
>>153367792Zeus was the father and king. He has the highest right to approve of it.
>>153367944The myth serves several purposes and one of them is to display that how Zeus and Hades conducted the whole affair was wrong and that you shouldn't conduct marriage plans like that.
>>153367677Oh, the part that makes me have no sympathy for this asshole was in "Mutiny" when he and his men kill the cow, the sky goes Thunder Bring, and he DARES to call "Odysseus". Fucking wow, oh NOW he's captain. When you fuck up, now Odysseus is in charge again.
>>153368046Honestly, aside from the rage at his hypocrisy Mutiny does make me laugh at how inept a captain Eurylochus was. Odysseus commanded for 13 years at that point and only lost men due to Poseidon being a dickhead (the ones lost to Polyphemus notwithstanding, considering they were kind of blindsided and forced to fight). Eurylochus was captain for maybe a day and fucked up so badly he had to immediately abdicate command back to Odysseus after doing the exact same thing he criticized Odysseus for doing (pissing off the gods).
