Marvel and DC finished their normal crossovers this week. You know what comes next right? Amalgam will return this year for the 30th anniversary.
>>153357087They already went back to Amalgam in one of the Batman/Deadpool crossovers.
Who was Cyclops merged with?I like this outfit alot.
>>153359003>Who was Cyclops merged with?>I like this outfit alot.
>>153359003if its costume, the ray. dont know if his power set matched though
>>153357087Here's hoping they reprint the omnibus that sold out instantaneously
>>153357126>>153359024Do you guys think they should revamp the classic Amalgam roster or would it be better served remaining unchanged? The original pantheon is really hit or miss. For every Super Soldier or Darkclaw you end up with a dozen Doom Patrols or Bat-things.
*X-PatrolI still think the F4 would have been better off fused with the Doom Patrol.
Doctor Strangefate miniseries would be kinoBut they would fill that with muggas and batman series
>>153359316modern writers would shit all over Strangefate for being “too OP”
>>153359233some should remain, but there are others that should be modified. iron lantern needs to be the nova lantern corp
>>153359316There were alot of characters cooked up for just the trading cards or mentioned in passing that I'd have liked to see more done with. Moonwing, Captain Mar-vell, Catsai, both the extended Spiderboy and Supersoldier casts...
>>153359421In situations like that I'm hesitant to budge because then who do you combine Tony with? Iron Lantern is already so well known too. Plus the variety of earth Lanterns means you can pair Rhodey with Stewart or Gardner with Guardsman.
>combine Steve Trevor with Frank Castle>because Storm is Wonder Woman, the actual Diana Prince is combined with Night Nurse>then waste Elektra and Daredevil on a fart in the wind combo with Catwoman and Rose Wilson respectively>merge riddler withmfucking Kingpin consequentlyWhile I understand alot of the choices made, alot of the later titles were nonsense asspulls like this. The fact Moonwing was never pitted against Enigma Fisk strikes me as odd too.
>>153359024Aqua amalgam man needs to put some shoes on
>>153359582>Tell me Dark Claw,do you know where that bucket of kfc went ?Too big of an idea for our little heads
>>153359024Looks like The Ray
>>153359582Violently 90s image
>>153359475he can be combined with steel, hardware or S.T.R.I.P.E. im sure theres other characters im missing. theres also the fusing him with batman route and bringing in gregory from the ultimate universe and have him fuse with thomas wayne jr and have a super sibling rivalry
>>153359634Everytime I think about Amalgam I go around in circles thinking of all the odd combos and wasted potential. Honestly if they go through with a modern take I wouldnt be surprised to see something as shit tier as "Groot Thing" just because Holland wasnt already used.>>153359666That's the appeal of Amalgam in retrospect, the entire project was cartoonishly a product of its time. That's why you end up with the JLA fusing with the X-men, why Batman fuses with Wolverine, why Spiderman fuses with Superboy, etc. Half the cast wouldnt be a reality nowadays. You'd just get alot in the vein of Groot Thing and all the characters would discuss social media.
>>153359727None of the characters you named besides Batman are as popular as Iron Man is now. The Iron-Bat fusion's been tossed aroumd for years too but it bores me. You need to be a little off the wall for these to work. The original connective tissue behind Iron Lantern was their shared vietnam war origins coupled with their then C-list status.
>>153359777...green lantern isnt as popular as current iron man. ad the fusion makes even less sense. but if youre using status as a means to make combis then youre already losing the plot
>>153359777Iron Man and Booster Gold?
Amalgam is a lot less interesting than a shared universe miniseries.
>>153359821>>153359853At most I could see Iron Man × Reyes Blue Beetle. Especially since everyone kept making the comparison between their movies. If we're going off popularity then maybe something like Iron Man × Mr Terrific or just Batman, although both would underwhelm me. Peacekeeper × Punisher seems likely too.
>>153359965We're already circling the drain as it is. Might aswell just take this opportunity to muse on what you'd have liked to seen more of.
>>153359582Manhunter fucking slaps (as the kids say), one day I'll get around to storytiming the whole thing.
>>153357087>Marvel and DC finished their normal crossovers this week.I don't think this is accurate unless you have new info. In the beginning they said they had several that could stretch a couple years. So far theres been two (2).
>>153360392Do it anon, enlighten the ignorant masses on the genius of Chase Lawler Manhunter
Spiderboy got killed in Spiderverse so hard to say.
>>153361355>>153361380>>153361398>>153361419>>153361428>>153361442Tom Perkins is one of the most unsung illustrators in animation. What an awesome talent he is.
>>153361610Years ago I came across the most perfect photobash of West's Batman into Darkclaw. I adored that image. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore. It's practically lost media now.
Remember Universe Boy? I do.
Besides Perkins I think the dA user Needham-Comics is the ony other guy to have drawn as much of the Amalgamverse over the last few decades.
>>153362197You really should post the whole page from that book. Not only did it give us Spiderboy 2099, you get to see what the LOSH line up of the Amalgamverse looks like too. I've fawned over so many of these pages for years now. I would have loved to read an issue following these characters. You can really tell what books were written with love and care, and which others werent.
>>153360031>what you'd have liked to seen more of.Spider-Boy was everything I ever wanted
>>153362245Pity Morlun tore his arm off
>>153362249For me it was the Amalgam trinity. Not just Spiderboy, but Supersoldier, Darkclaw, and Thorion. I definitely have other favorites from the line up, but my god did they ever nail that trinity. Thorion really deserves more love. Every panel of that book is a love letter to Jack. It's beautiful. That ending especially stuck with me
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>>153362274Listen anon, I speak earnestly when I say I sympathize with you. A great deal of what I love was ruined in exactly the same way. At a certain point however it falls on our shoulders to totally disregard the retarded shit these creatively bankrupt fagtards had the gall to shit out onto print. OMD, spiderverse, along with whatever other dumb fagshit waa written and defecated out onto the masses within the last 15 odd years deserves nothing less but apathy. Fuck them. Anyways I had to catbox the Spiderboy piece Needham cooked uphttps://litter.catbox.moe/mwann670w2819hkc.jpg
>>153362322Neat!>>153362245I wish we would have gotten a Legion book as well. I wonder if they had made one would they explain the evil Vance Cosmic from Magnetic Men?
>>153362402>I wonder if they had made one would they explain the evil Vance CosmicConsidering how strong both Spiderboy titles were I wouldnt have put it past those writers to consider something like that. We'd have likely gotten to see alot more of the cast too. There's no way we wouldnt have seen a Galactiac 5 for instance.
>>153362396We need Long Paul, the fusion of Terry Long and Paul Rabin
https://litter.catbox.moe/dqee59um0kw0ckw4.jpgbumping with the Darkclaw family
>>153362512You mean Terry "Skip" Rabin a.k.a. Black Iron Lantern? No one cares about that guy!
Thorion had a genuinely great design.
>>153362210OK that Eradicator/Us Agent mash up is solid.
>>153363534I know JrJr's art is controversial, but his Thorion pages are genuinely beautiful. I'm not exaggerating when I say it's easily one of the best books in the entire line up.I keep hoping some third party attempts to make unlicensed figures based off the entire run of comics but short of 3D printed kits nobody's seem to bother.
>>153363651It gets harder and harder for me to pick favorites out of these works because they are so star studded with amazing designs and mash ups.
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>>153357087>Marvel already has their own Spider-Boy now.Why doesn’t DC create its own Dark Claw?
>>153363655>I know JrJr's art is controversial, but his Thorion pages are genuinely beautiful.Agreed.His Thanoseid also looked vastly better/more menacing than his appearance in the Trevor/Punisher book.
>>153363655>I know JrJr's art is controversial>>153363761His art is controversial now, but he was one of the GOATs in the 90's, especially his run on Punisher War Zone.
>Thanoseid is now a washed up drunk with no ambition.Sigh...I hate modern comics.
I got White Witch (Scarlet Witch + Zatanna) on my ideal Exiles team.> Fem-Thor (earth x)> Zarda / Power Princess (jms's supreme power)> Captain Marvel (ultimate)> Wanda Zatara (amalgam)> Blink> Izumi (spider-man fairy tales)
>>1533639053 different characters were crossed with Scarlet Witch.
Absolutely ridiculous how they wasted Martian Manhunter crossing him with Xavier.
>>153364010Unlimited Access comes up with some of the coolest combos and fights and you never hear a peep about those books. Spider-man and Wondy team up? Magneto and Darkseid team up? Not to mention everybody in pic related. Fuck this line up still makes me onions face even now Not to mention all the one panel mash ups like Generation Hex.
>>153363889Let them rot. They'll be out of work soon enough.
What modern combos would be made?Jon MoralesFlora ChavezHarley-girlLightning-pantherMs ShazamDead-maker
>>153363738I've been asking that question since they first teased Bailey. I dont even know what they could do short of yet another bat family member but ir wouldnt have hurt. I appreciated the idea of using those trademarks frankly.
>>153363761It's really a shame Thorion only got the one book. Jrjr just nailed the assignment to the letter.>>153363799It was! That's why it annoys me how often people bitch about him now. There's so many 90's artists in that same vein who were firing on all cylinders then yet you cant speak a positive word of now without some whiny prick mentioning a modern example. Frank Miller falls into that category too.Likewise it makes you appreciate the few artists who stuck the landing. Ed Mcgguinness has been in the game for 30 years and nobody gives him a lick of the credit or appreciation he's due. Yet his art still rocks all this time later. Life's not fair.
>>153364361U.S. PeacemakerSuicide Squad of the GalaxyBirds of MarvelsBlack Morbius
What was that Marvel+Marvel amalgamation series where Cap was merged with Dr Fate?
>>153364511"Infinity Warps"What a pile of shit that was. They came up with better fusions for the 2015 secret wars event.
>>153364511>Dr FateDr Strange I mean.
>>153364527>They came up with better fusions for the 2015 secret wars event.What series?
>>153364541Battleworld
Fwiw Image got in on the relative success of Amalgam for a brief time too. The book's called "Altered Image" if anyone's interested. I really lament the demise of the classic Image universe. So much was swept aside for a laundry list of petty reasons, and all that's taken its place is fucking invincible...
>>153359475Wonder Woman.
>>153364527I fucking loved the sexy af Weapon Hex design.
This is only tangentially related but is the DC Versus Marvel Omnibus worth looking into? I've only read the two Batman/Spidey issues (which I enjoyed) but I saw that the DC v Marvel was on sale on Amazon and considered getting it.
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>>153364767>Acker>Blacker
>>153364659I'd say its a good buy. Alot of this stuff may never again see the light of day. I really wanted the Amalgam one but it got scalped to hell and back.
Iron Lantern was the Shit
>>153364740>>153364767>psychic clawsWild thing beat them to that punch in the 90's MC2 continuity. Granted her mom was Elektra but still.
>>153364985Iron Lantern, Supersoldier, Thorion, and Spiderboy are just perfect. Perfect synthesis of both canons.
>>153359421>>153359475If they bring back Iron Lantern, I hope they get rid of Mandarinestro, and fuse Sinestro with Iron Monger, so you can get Ferrous Monger
>>153365358No.
>>153365370why not? you are just going to say no?
>>153364501Scarlet ConstantineDr ArrowMoon BeetleAgatha RockHopper Cybor-VisionMinvervaThunderbolt Squad
>>153365385Mandarin+Sinestro merger fits better and Mandarin is "the guy with 10 rings", and better suits the vaguely 1970 or so time period. It would be better to pick a different guy to merge with Stane if you want to use him.
>>153365449NTA, I might have different values but sometimes the gimmick of the name gets in the way of an actually cool fusion. Like Dr. Doomsday is kind of what I mean. They don't fit and only fit because of the name and end up not being fun. Just a lame joke. Or ShatterStarfire. Kinda lame. Would've liked something like Gamoriandr and still call her Starfire or something else related to those two. Plus you could reference the TT and X-Men crossover but still have an excuse for a cosmic connection that both of them had. I also think Pathogen is a good concept but I didn't like that they used the fat design from Parasite.Anyway, Chemodam isn't as good as what Ultimo and Chemo could've been and SuperSoldier sucks as a design.
>>153364562that’s not an amalgam that’s an alternate-universe Frank from a vampire invasionStrange is just taking his body along for a ride because he got vamped
>>153365674???
>>153365431Alot of these sound really plausible. Man there's gotta be someone more worthy of pairing with Constantine right?
>>153365883I get your point, but all these guys are technically just AU versions of themselves. You did remind me however of a few Marvel × Marvel amalgams I made of my own accord.>Hellhoud : Daredevil × Wolverine>Machine Monk : Machine Man × Shang Chi>Bullet Ant : Antman × Hawkeye
Hellhound's colorsI'll stop clogging the thread now
Honestly after what Batman/Deadpool did, I'd rather just see new fusions, that feels more interesting to me.
>>153366291That's fair. Ideally the whole effort should be experimental but I doubt they have the money for that nowadays.
>>153365888Y'know after looking at my post I realized I had a retard moment where I just dumped my thoughts without editing it and I lost track of whoI was replying to and then hit post anyway. My bad.>>153366291They do this shit a bunch now anyway. What Ifs and Elseworlds are present a lot. Kinda gets tiring.
>>153365674>o. Plus you could reference the TT and X-Men crossover but still have an excuse for a cosmic connection that both of them had.Was Starfirestar or Firestarfire a thing?
>>153366734>They do this shit a bunch now anyway.It's mostly a Marvel thing from what I've seen, they love mixing two characters together.But also the whole point of Amalgam is doing that, I'd rather see new fusions over Dark Claw again or whatever.
>>153366212>>153366222>>153366229>>153366242Three are honestly coolMachine Monk especially. Feels original enough to be its own thing while also being a cool amalgam. 10/10
>>153366806I don't need a deep dive into Darkclaw but...I wouldn't mind it delving back into that universe for maybe another couple of issues. Like some new characters within that universe. I think part of it is just that some of those like Darkclaw seem almost perfect to me. But yeah, new combos are kinda the point. I admit that I would want that more. It's just some like Darkclaw and Strange Fate are too perfect and there are only so many combos that "work." Like Batman and Punisher combined to me wouldn't "work." So seeing the ones that are strong examples in the background are fine to me. But yeah not whole issues dedicated to them. I don't need that.>>153366769Nope. But yeah I had that thought too and wondered if it could be done. Maybe something like Solfire or Firesol could be used to show an even hotter version of them combined where she has a green outfit or a green scheme combined with Angelica's Avengers Vol 3 costume except purple like Kory's costume to show off even more intense radiation considering how that specific color displays short wavelength and could have Starfire's green blasts as literal gamma rays. I dunno. The problem is that Angelica is modest while Kory isn't. How would this be reconciled? Maybe she only gets modest/embarrassed when in public but not when the love interest shows up.
>>153364361I feel like they would mix together ones with a lot in common either metawise or character wise these days desu>Obsidian & Jade and Cloak & Dagger>Nightwing and Daredevil or Spider-man (depends on how much DC likes Dick at that point in time)>Barbara and Spider-Gwen>Cass and X-23>Batman and Captain America>Superman and Thor>Wonder Woman and Carol>Jason and Bucky
>>153367174A lot of these sound boring, but BatCap might be interesting by what tone they take with him.
>>153366242>>153366229>>153366222>>153366212Keep up the good work anon.
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>>153357087Absolute Ultimate Dark-Claw
>>153367393>>153366922thanks anons
>>153366212>>153366222>>153366229That are nice ideas. They feel more like “What if…“s.
>>153368776Sabertooth x Batman? Or Daken x Batman?
>>153363799My God, this was such a great design.
Who would Tommy fuse with? Punisher or Deadpool would be too obvious.
>>153361428I love Speeddemons design so much
>>153362167I don't like how his artstyle went for weird cartoony proportions but I really like his designs. I think I loved him as a kid growing up with Godzilla the series and Ghostbusters Xtreme
>>153359664It is. He was even called, Ray Summers
>>153371462He's pretty underrated among the Amalgam roster. He's awesome though.
