why?

I miss dickbats, at least Bruce can rest from 3 books about a big society or villains uniting to fuck Gotham.

>>153370648
Because the story is about Catwoman convincing the burglars in Gotham City to only rob wealthy people. Batman is horrified by this, but the entire Batfamily aside from Damien agrees with Catwoman that it's a good idea to just allow criminals to burglarize wealthy people, and Batman is depicted as severely mentally ill for trying to stop it.

>>153370695
'red scare' was never a baseless fear they want total anarchy

>>153370623
Doesn't Marvel have multiple series which consist of characters dying horribly?

>>153370703
I sincerely hope that Chip Zdarsky and Tini Howard have their houses burglarized so they can know what it's like to feel unsafe in their own homes.

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>>153370695
>Batman is depicted as severely mentally ill for trying to stop it.
... I mean.

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>>153370695
That's not even the worst of it.
Fuck man, what happened with Jason is proof Batman WANTS Joker to keep killing people.

>>153370719
the problem with these people is they are the only ones willing to work for mcdonalds wages if it means they get power to put out propaganda so its a circular isssue we cant do anything about
>all the writers are mentally ill and only care about agitprop
>good writers have standards and want liveable wages
>only mentally ill people will work for penuts
>the writers continue to be mentally ill

>>153370748
>i am vengeance... I am the night... distribute your wealth evenly or im coming FOR YOU!
what?
Batman would have to shit on his parents totally and his own reassoning would condemn himself for being rich and ussing it to be a superhero. Then the logic becomes
>'well its ok if im rich cus im doing it to punch other people so its ok'
so effectively no hero with money can have this position because it becomes rules for thee not for me. Which most communists have so it tracks.

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>>153370783
Childhood is idolizing Batman. Adulthood is realizing Mr. A makes more sense.

>>153370623
Evil? No. That's that X-men story where some ecoterrorist mutant kills an innocent man for using a plastic bag and is never punished for it.

But Gotham War might be the shittiest comic event ever, at least on DC. It damaged every character that took part in it. Batman came across simultaneously as pussywhipped bitch who can't bring himself to smack Selina across the mouth (which would have solved the whole thing instantly) AND as a paranoid fucking lunatic who build a literal mad scientist mind control machine and uses it on Red Hood. All of Batman's sidekicks come across as disloyal, irrational and comically weak (this is the story where Batman beats like 8 of them at the same time in one page and no, that would not really happen). Selina of course is a cunt. And so on. Everyone is worse off after GW than before it, every character looks lamer.

>>153370789
I remember a couple years ago they let some leftist journalist write Iron Man, this was a journalist who had messages leak fantasizing about smashing a conservative's head through a windshield and taking a picture of it so conservatives will live in fear. And in his book, Tony Stark's workers want to vote on what the factory should be used for, and billionaire Tony thinks that sounds like a good idea. Also the villains in the book are right wing twitter trolls who say Tony is woke.

>>153370843
>Evil? No. That's that X-men story where some ecoterrorist mutant kills an innocent man for using a plastic bag and is never punished for it.
If comics were a real business, Gerry Duggan would've been blacklisted for even turning that shit in.

>>153370623
what about all those marvel awful crossover or that awful event during new52 in detective comcis it was called gotham war too isn't it?

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A classic.

>>153371353
Kek, I haven't seen this before.

>>153371353
all media is someones faggy fanfiction, anymore

>>153370623
why does Batman have a swirl on his chin?

>>153370623
>Chip Zdarsky
Are you sure it's not just retarded?

>>153370719
Because you think they’re super rich…?

>>153370843
>That's that X-men story where some ecoterrorist mutant kills an innocent man for using a plastic bag and is never punished for it.

But they do punish her. Krakoa just doesn’t give a shit because duh, a living island doesn’t think human life is more sacred, especially when humans pollute and throw plastic garbage everywhere

>>153371782
I'm sure they're richer than the young scholars who would be invading their homes. Ideally, they'll bail the future astronauts out because they're really good people deep down trying to feed they kids in all likelihood.

>>153370848
Why would Tony be a union breaker if he’s supposed to be a good guy?

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>>153370695
so is this the new thing getting pushed?
>crime is okay if you decide the victim "has too much"

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>>153371876
Yes, that is unironically what these people believe. They see rich people not as human beings but as cattle to be milked for their benefit. But only people richer than them obviously. Hasan is allowed to have his multimillion dollar mansion of course.

>>153370695
That's it? All those bitch tears for that?

>>153370623
Why does he love this woman? Is he a masochist? I mean she wants him to remain in his darkness. The fact that the clan would mostly go along with this is what's wrong with Batman comics today. They aren't acting like a family or a unit anymore. The fact that they listen to Selina of all people is a problem. They just want it easy, and not fall through with their duty.

>>153371840
Because busting unions is good? What kind of question is this?

>>153371353
>while they're alone, the guy rapes the girl again

>>153370783
You know I've heard this so many times, that I've lost count of how much I've groaned and rolled my eyes. So simple huh... well I agree with Batman it's not, it just opens up new horrors. Let's say he kills Joker, if he does Batman opens up a gap in where Joker once occupied, and nature abhors those things and will fill it with someone just very much the same... or worse. Batman could be the one who fills that gap, he goes around believing he's so justified that it goes on and on till someone who is innocent does get killed, and he still goes on and on. Wasn't Injustice not a lesson to that. Better the devil you know than the one you don't know.

You think Batman WANTS it because Jason didn't have his adopted Dad to destroy himself for him... very selfish of Jason to ask someone to do that for just him.

>>153371970
Okay, corporate bootlicker

>>153371916
>Hasan is allowed to have his multimillion dollar mansion of course.

Still mad about this, huh? Why can’t you just pull yourself up by the bootstraps and become a millionaire?

>>153370695
Did this include Bruce himself because last time I checked he was wealthy?

>>153372212
Because the government keeps stealing my money.

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>>153371353
The writer clearly wants to be writing about a different vigilante lawyer.

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>>153372042
Anon, Batman developed a special lobotomy to make someone totally unable to murder or even inflict physical pain on other people. Instead of doing it to the Joker or any of his villains, he did it to Jason because Jason dared side with Catwoman.

Batman wants Joker to keep killing. You are a retard. You can not justify this or any Batman story after it knowing that Batman has this ready to go and just saves to to use on Jason.

>>153371876
>whinging that a healthcare CEO with blood on his hands got murked
come on, have some self respect

>>153370783
yeah whatever when there's a concerted effort through multiple writers to force his ethics, that they wrote him to never compromise on no matter what, to the breaking point however they could just to make him look like a retard then they have the power to do it.

>>153372407
Editor should have told Zdarsky that this dumb sci-fi crap doesn't belong in Batman for this particular reason.

>>153372407
Don't forget Brother Eye. Bruce Wayne is a piece of shit.

>>153372429
No no, anon. Surely if you defend terrible people who actively ruin civilization to enrich themselves hard enough, they will personally call you to give you tons of money!

>>153372478
>Bruce Wayne is a piece of shit.
Dick was always the better Batman.

>>153372478
I became a millionaire thanks to billionaire wealth trickling down in crums to my pocket

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>>153372429
>>153372478
Playing the "extrajudicial killings are justified" game results in a lot of losers, more than there are now.

>>153372518
You don't have to accept them as something necessarily good, but also don't expect me to cry or to not say "well, had it coming". Don't dress in raw beef and walk into a lion enclosure.

>>153371825
duggan was writing that bitch as a hero, couldn't believe that panel when she neck stabbed that dude, these people's morals are completely fried.

>>153372429
that's not even what the article is about, you dumb shit.

>>153372534
God forbid a person who is intimately connected to nature didn’t just clap at humanity destroying the ecosystem one tiny cut after another

>>153370695
oh no! who will think of the people who will not lose their homes or livelihoods and continue their lives better off than most other human beings on the planet?

who will think of the wealthy dipshits?

>>153370789
giving money to charities doesn't solve systemic issues or structural violence. charities are meant to throw money at things as tax right offs. they are specifically designed for a problem to be "maintained" for tax right offs, not be solved. if the problem were solved, then there would be no more tax right offs for wealthy people

if the working class is uplifted, then it proves that the ruling class is, was, and will always be useless, and they're not going to put that in a comic book. they need liberals to punch people in the streets, not have leftists make actual change. this is why dinosaurus is made an antagonist in invincible, and later cuckman has the planet earth advanced off screen to dehumanize anyone who thinks the world could be better off by using means that are not status quo

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>>153371876
that's correct

>>153371916
>the ultra wealthy use the working class as slaves to have wealth extracted, but i don't like it when the poor fight back

technofeudalism is the next stage beyond capitalism. it's moving on from finance capital and profit, to landlord private equity shit and social media fiefdoms

>hasan
has openly said he's willing to pay more taxes, and he doesn't do bullshit that insurance companies do, so you have a a false comparison.

you're retarded because you think rich people can't be socialists, when they absolutely can.

Zdarsky also did a Russiagate story with KGBeast in 2025.

>>153370623
I don't see how it stacks up to whenever hyperviolence and grotesque bloodshed started becoming commonplace in comics

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>>153372534
These people literally fantasize about killing innocent conservatives nonstop. That's why they love this trope. Because they themselves wish they could get away with killing anyone who isn't a leftist.

>>153371876
>>153371916
The way you people "think" is why I became a Marxist.

>>153372324
Aw poor babby just get a tax break bro. Like your favorite oligarchs do.

Rorschach makes sense for hating gay people and calling women whores constantly

>>153371876
This guy doesn't believe the shit he spews he just wants to get his dinky stinky. All these people are just hedonists.

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>Migrants are blood sucking demons.
What did Marvel mean by this?

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>>153372747
because conservatives fantasize about killing whoever they don't like. whether it be women, brown people, poor people, and combos of that.

if you tell a conservative that capitalism has been maintained not by trade, but by CIA death squads, regime change actions, puppet dictatorships, wars for profit, false flags, economic hitmen and school of the americas, the typical conservative ignores every single thing just mentioned because their simple brains literally cannot fathom that they're wrong about how the world really works

>>153372693
>having a job is slavery
Keep telling your mom that. She'll stop badgering you about getting out of the basement one of these days.

>has openly said he's willing to pay more taxes
He doesn't have to wait for tax laws to be passed. His house has enough extra space that he could house some needy migrants right now.

>>153372799
The way the world works is that I work hard every day, and then the money I earn is stolen from me so some worthless piece of shit can have a good life.

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>>153372756
rorschach was literally abused by his prostitute mother but it's cool when feminists with daddy issues hate men.

it's time to wake up. modern feminism just wants a conservative matriarchy. zoomers are moving further to the right but feminists are not explaining how capitalism harms men, they're just doubling down on patriarchy. you can be leftist and still point out that identity politics divides the working class along lines of alienated labor

>>153370695
Don't forget how she started giving classes to criminals and just expected them to pinky promise not kill anyone.

>>153371956
Writers are in love with the idea of Batman/Catwoman. Unfortunately, Selina is a bitch even at her best. The only reason Talia is not the objectively better option is because Morrison did a lot of damage to her character.

>>153372842
>Don't forget how she started giving classes to criminals and just expected them to pinky promise not kill anyone.
It's the most deranged leftist fantasy that has ever been published, and I can't express enough how much I would like the writers to experience exactly what they're advocating for.

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>>153372806
>having a job is slavery
strawman argument

>he could help needy migrants
if you're talking about migrants, they're getting kicked out regardless of the fact that trump said he'd go after criminals and the worst of the worst. instead ICE broke up families and took away actual laborers that help the economy. instead of make migrants lives' better, you'd rather everyone's lives be worse, because you're are literally a retarded dipshit

>>153372693
Techno feudalism is unironically the end state of socialism. Just look at China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. A select group of rich and powerful elites with hereditary dynasties, ruling over the masses who have little power in their own lives

>>153372874
I wish someone would think of the foreign trespassers. I feel like the purpose of my government is to make life easier for non-Americans at the expense of me.

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"Be better." - Big Mike.

>>153372879
>it's the end of socialism
>describes capitalism by using examples of precursor capitalist characteristics

sure buddy

>>153372897
>foreign trespassers
oh cool, so you have a plan for all the white people to go back to europe, ya stupid piece of shit?

yeah man, it'd be great if you could get me citizenship to iceland, especially if i can take my guns with me. if you could get on that, i'd appreciate it. ;)

>Oh there's no White Genocide, But wouldn't be great in the future if everybody was brown?

>>153370695
t. temporarily embarrassed billionaire who makes less than 30k a year

>>153372901
I’m using real world examples of systems founded on a form of socialism and where they ended up. The world is a ruthless place and socialism will not cure mankind’s flaws.

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>>153372953
>there's a white genocide
>instead of class consciousness and the humans species be on one team/superorganism, would rather double down on idpol while outnumbered

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>>153372984
>we have to solve the flaws capitalism creates
>by blaming socialism

>>153372978
I don't need to be a billionaire, I would just like to have access to the thousands of dollars the government takes from me every year to fund programs I never asked for and don't want.

>>153373002
>wE'rE aLl OnE rAcE!

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>>153373017
>Before mankind was Capitalism awaited him the ultimate game awaiting its ultimate practitioner

>>153373019
Just pull yourself by your bootstraps just like Bezos, Musk, Thiel did, lil bro

>>153373091
I don't have the knowhow to create a company that improves the lives of millions of people like Amazon. I like having a regular job. I just want to keep the money I earn instead of paying for your EBT.

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Rootless cosmopolitans want to turn the whole world into Mos Eisley.

>>153370695
I mean those wealthy people should have their valuables insured

So unless they have something illegal hidden in their house that they really shouldn't, the only real victims are the Insurance Companies

>>153373167
>I mean those wealthy people should have their valuables insured
Do you have homeowners insurance? If so then give me your address and I'll swing by and see if you have anything that I want.

>the only real victims are the Insurance Companies
And everyone who pays for insurance whose premiums went up.

This storyline is weird because you can tell Zdarsky and Tini Howard weren't communicating at all.

In Howard's issues the conflict seems more like a mild disagreement. In Zdarsky's the event is portrayed as a full-blown Batfamily Civil War.

>>153372750
you became a Marxist because you're a deadbeat who wants free gibs

>>153372693
I decided you're too rich.
what's your address?

>>153372842
Maybe Batman shouldn't be dating evil women then.

>>153373351
the batdick wants what the batdick wants

4chan is full of people who would cry and seethe at Robin Hood

>>153373378
Robin Hood is based. He took money from the government and returned it to its rightful owners, the taxpayers.

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>>153373307
i decided you're stupid. once you arrive and find out there's nothing to take, there will be a bullet between your eyes.

imagine thinking that when people say millionaires should pay more taxes, that billionaires shouldn't exist, you think it's a legit response to go after people who are not those things.

you're fucking retarded.

>>153373378
Wasn't he a terrorist?

>>153373405
the government is controlled by capitalists and right wing hierarchies, dumbass. revolutions happened specifically because of this, dumbass

>>153373415
Everyone already knew you're a broke piece of shit with nothing of value.

Batman always takes a quality dive when Catwoman is heavily featured. In general I don't think Batman has been good for quite a while, maybe even over a decade

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>>153373137
aristotle didn't imagine a world where it was possible for the vast majority of all humans to be literate and educated

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>>153373431
at least i'm not retarded

>>153372518
We aren't even playing that game. Batman can make them unable to murder and just doesn't want to for the lols.

Batman can make Zsasz unable to murder anyone ever again WITHOUT killing him.

>>153373378
"Robs from the rich and gives to the poor" is leftist revisionist messaging. A substitute king was taking advantage of the people because of the real king's absence. Robin Hood had nothing but loyalty to the legitimate king who was off fighting in the crusades.

>>153373425
Robin Hood predates capitalism.

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>>153373486
Robin Hood is so based

>>153373464
I thought wishing people dead was against Da Rules.

>>153373486
The original Robin Hood story was anti-monarchy thoughever. It was after his story became more popular where it was retooled into the way you said

How many "Batfamily turns against Batman for no reason" plotlines we had in the last 5 years?

Telltale Alfred was the worst. Woke scolding old bastard.

>>153373415
woah woah, why so defensive?
I thought you liked the whole notion of people robbing from those they decided are too rich. You should welcome me with open arms.
Its almost like you really DON'T believe the shit you're spewing.

>>153373669
>those they decided
yeah. corrupt millionaires that don't pay taxes or exploit people, and billionaires. everyone already knows this so for anon and yourself to make a strawman shows you have no argument because you're retarded and will never argue in good faith

>>153373506
right wing social hierarchies based on primitive accumulation and privilege. the carolingian period (after merovingian) places it closer to capitalism because the aristocracy was an upper middle class. landlordism is still a feature of modern day capitalism

>>153373688
>It's okay to steal from people, but only people who are richer than me
How convenient

>>153371353
Is this a Sunday strip or are there more pages?

>>153373713
>still making strawman arguments after parameters have already been defined
you love being a willfully stupid NPC

>>153373717
It was apart of Marvel's Voices back in 2020. It was a spotlight for LGBT creators.

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>>153373742
>give LGBT writers their very own issue to show off their skills
>it's the worst shit ever written

>>153373794
Quality doesn't matter as long as it owns the chuds.

>>153373688
what strawman? where am I off?
a bum with a blanket is rich according to the bum that doesn't have one.
and I love how you think as the one being robbed you get a say. NO the ROBBER gets to decide if you have too much or not. That's YOUR fucking philosophy. Don't like it too bad. People WILL decide that YOU have too much.

>>153370783
bruh I had a huge call out in ai chatbots over that. I literally had to explain using comics joker exists because of batman. batman will not stop joker from killing but keep trying to take him for treatment that will never hold while ignoring body count go up over and over (he's not ignoring it) than when jason todd finally is going to kill joker batman shows up and almost kills him and left him for dead.

I even called it out in the injustice story about the heroes being losers. the injustice timeline happened because everyone heroes and villains and even civs knew that *when* not if the joker went to far it'd be world changing. injustice proves that because all heroes do nothing and didnt stop him in advance knowing he would they all let it. so all this crap is just stuff you can prevent. I can NOT take batman serious anymore nor many heroes. add in the whole batman who laughs and barbatos shit it proves batman is the BIGGEST threat to reality.

there are tons of things I can point out but it all comes down to batman is a horrible hero and is MY city is a very scary thing to have him say when you understand he does. castle bat shows his delusion of its my city. the more I dig the more I realize batman is not a hero.

I mean the dude holds people upside down over buildings and other things with fear and beatings to keep everyone in trauma. nobody can heal if he keeps them in trauma. bonus play is sinestro is a bad guy using fear and batman is a "Hero" using fear. sus.

it all comes down to writers are just absolute ass no matter what.

>>153373733
>parameters have already been defined...by ME
jerkoff really doesn't see the issue here.

>>153372407
dont forget the story with vicki vale and batman and crane torturing her and doing brain shit to her in The Tyrant.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Shadow_of_the_Bat_Annual_Vol_1_2
writers have this wierd idea in their head villains doing batman things are villain but batman doing it to allies and others is bad wrong. Its scary how writers are also oblivious to this shit they write and not see it.

>>153372407
>Are you retarded.
Nah I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than you about this. Besides you're just one of those angry simple people

>>153372647
When the wealthy becomes poor and the criminals become wealthy, guess who becomes the wealthy dipshits?

>>153374102
Sure kid. Sure.
Just resort to that once you realize your argument has been BTFO.

>>153373873
>batman will not stop joker from killing but keep trying to take him for treatmen

That's the worst part about >>153370623 Batman has a treatment that he know will actually work and just doesn't use it. He has no problem using this treatment, he knows it will work, but just won't do it.

I'm even on the side of people who think Batman should never kill the Joker, but this comic.... Fuck man, HE CAN CURE THE JOKER AND CHOSE NOT TO DO IT! THIS COMIC GAVE BATMAN A CURE FOR THE JOKER! That under minds every conceivable argument to support Batman.

>>153370695
Is Selina a retard? Bruce Wayne has been a wreck for decades because a buglar tried to steal from his rich parents.
Does she believe going full Robin Hood will end in a utopian?
>>153370783
Jason is a retard too.
Reminder he believe that Bruce was a bad parent because he didn't do anything against the joker.
Even though he wanted to kill him and the fucking president beg Superman to go to stop him

>>153374775
>Is Selina a retard? Bruce Wayne has been a wreck for decades because a buglar tried to steal from his rich parents.
That's bad enough, but fucking Dick Grayson takes her side.

>>153372842
>The only reason Talia is not the objectively better option is because Morrison did a lot of damage to her character.
Morrison getting the blame of Rucka retard writing will never stop being funny.
More when we had a writer (Tate Brombal) who seems to remember that story and shown Talia's sister in Batgirl kek

>>153374849
well Morrison really put the final nail in the coffin and no way fag'd her when she was begging for Batdick and cuddles which eventually led to her trying to destroy everything Batman and killing their child. That's the kind of thing you can't really recover from especially when most writers have a hardon for batcat despite it being one of the most dogshit cape romances of like the past 25 years, heart of husth be damned

>>153374821
Editorial has been interfering with Titans since the 90s but aren't brave enough to stablish their own Titan editorship to stop Batman writer doing retarded stories about Dick (like what they did with Wonderwoman recently).

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>>153374849
The Talia-fan cope is that Morrison retroactively made her more evil by date raping Batman to conceive Damian. I think these people just grew up with the kiddified TAS version of Talia. O'Neil's original take was pretty cold.

>>153374959
Dick's been fully reclaimed by the bat-office ever since O'Neil found out that Wolfman intended to have him and Starfire get married back in the 90s. They'll loan him out to team books, but they don't get a say about what happens to him.

>>153374978
>>153374947
I sorta get that Morrison went too far with his vision of the character, but Rucka's story was even worse , It was mean spirited.
Which is not the first time he did something like that, turning Hamilton a villain with a retarded reason or his chimpout with the Azzarello's Wondy(which is hilarious because some Gods of Azzarello run got carried to the real pantheon)

Talia was just O'Neil jerking off, so it is okay.

>>153375425
Batman needs somebody to jerk him off more than anybody. Somebody who can chain him to a bed when he needs it too. The joker fears the fully rested, unpent-up batman