>powers: unsurpassed>villains: punched>sins: retconned>characters: trolled>waifus: conquered>(You): mad
>Forced memeThis "character" died 20 years ago. Get over it.
>>153384945Actually it was 40 years ago. You are now seeing the third iteration of the character.
>>153384933>game: fumbled
i miss this lil nigga like u wouldnt believefuck prime
>>153384933>dubs: checked>>153385075>fuck prime
>sins: retconnedKal-L is still dead
>>153385075I find it funny that besides Kal-L, who is a big deal and obviously wouldn't just be brought back like nothing, Baby Wildeebest and Bushido are the two characters that Prime killed that stayed dead.Really shows no one really cared about them.
>>153385110>i-is that a barely legal version of our married teammate? SEXOOOthe fuck is wrong with these harlots
>>153384933>Looks like he's part of a KPOP band.Yeeah...no.
>>153385075Prime was merely Johns's plot device to get rid of certain members
>>153385212Bushido makes sense. A character created for a one-off Annual, that's prime event fodder.Wildebeest deserved better.Early 90s New Titans is over-hated. The Titans Hunt/Total Chaos era has its charm.
>>153385212Terra, maybe, depending on which origin retcon you want to trust.
>>153385006I wonder if by 2040 we will get a new interaction
>>153385068Why wouldn't you post the part where he isn't picking up on her instead of this?
>>153384933Why is his nose so small, did he get a nosejob?
it's a shame shame how the most insufferably obnoxious subhuman retards tend to attach themselves to random characters and/or stories
>>153384933>Should we delve more into Jon or some other actual Superboy?>nah we better keep shilling the epic metanarrative fourthwall bending villain so we can keep huffing our own farts
>>153385422Bendis and Taylor ruined Jon, and the YJ4 were killed by DiDio.
>>153385441then unruin him, unkill them.
>>153385422OP being a worthless self-inserting faggot doesn't make Jon a draw, anon
>>153385422They ARE delving more into Jon anon, even gave him a new unique name and cool costume, but you're apparently just not reading Superman Unlimited.Too bad about Kon tho, having to play supporting character for Supergirl lol
>>153384933He's such a troll
>>153385496I've literally just been reading Absolute lately.Yeah I know it's crap but it's entertaining crap.
>>153385503The DC Comics forums were surprisingly based.You could shitpost pretty hard and they still wouldn't ban you.
>>153385068>needs a virgin sacrifice>goes to a comic shopI kek'd.
Since DC and Marvel are doing crossovers again, I'd like to see this one.
>>153385422Ironically if the measure is authenticity Superboy Prime predates both as the actual Superboy and had more story left to develop, strides with Kon and Jon's arcs, welcome or not, are sort of why they're floating in limbo as extras.
>>153385422A funny thing about Prime, is that originally he needed a nude Alexander luthor jr to buff him to break the reality wall
>>153385752Williamson clearly forgot that to make powerscalers (98% of Prime fans) happy
>>153384933Opinions on Prime's rogue gallery so far?>Dan Didio>Well Written Dialogue >Batkek
>>153385637The best foot-in-the-door would be an unspeaking lookalike coworker or regular customer at CK's LCS, that way it's easy to springboard that they already know each other for any crossover, but if Marvel says no for now it's still baked in for fans or later writers to go to.
>>153385817He receiving power boost from nude twink would make the fujos really happy (the actual majority of his fanbase)
>>153385831And Anti-Monitor, considering his situation 3 out of 4 ain't bad.
>>153385068You stupid himbo.
i fucking hate this shilled character. he does not deserve redemption, he deserves to be brutally murdered by everyone he has killed
>>153385214Married and even non-virginal hack writers are hacks.What can you do.Men were a mistake, son.
>>153385214Average woman from the age of 35 up
>>153387267Yeah, everyone knows women really go after married men. Not kidding, they really do.
>>153385898Speaking of which...I wonder if we'll see them go toe to toe again. I'm sure The Anti-Monitor is itching to get back at Prime for betraying him during the Sinestro Corps War and leaving him vulnerable to Nekron.
>>153385397Hey schizoanon.
>>153388337This plot killed marvel comics
>>153389292It is surprising how Morrison skipped the petty asshole accusations.
>>153384933>>(You): madBut I'm glad
>>153385422Jon Kent is boring and a homosexual.Prime is cool and straight.
>>153384933shout out to this nigga for making me like comics again and getting me to read them again.
>>153385068>>153386846>convenient ignorance of final page revealYou mean, SBP dodged a bullet.
>>153385422No one gives a shit about Jon
>>153385250All DC art nowadays drawn to appeal to gays and fujos, it's retarded.
>>153385637Why? Prime sucks and nobody outside of Hastings actually has any clue how to write Gwen.
>>153385447No I want a character with 10x the baggage and a tenth of the potential.
>>153389292I know this isn't the thread for it but I just checked out Absolute Flash from my library so I just wanted to say kudos to Scott Snyder for destroying multiverse and continuity just so he can have the idea of reinventing the wheel with his absolute universe 5 years later.
>>153390892>B-But my meme :(
>>153390968It is dc, during the 00s and 10s they kept undoing the crisis and bringing the multiverse back.
>>153391007You can say like that which might give the apperance that Scott was just following an existing trend and shouldn't be vieed as culpable for being the grand architect of DC for over the past decade.
>>153391059Anon... Snyder didn't do anything new, even his ABM is heavily derivative from what came before.I stopped caring about it once I took notice of the increasing Jokerwank.
>>153390968Let's be honest continuity was already destroyed in the 90s with Zero Hour and DC decision to change Superman'origin story every 5-6 years
>>153391189You're talking about character details, I'm talking about continuity.
>>153385214Wanting to fuck Superman is just normal behavior
>>153391007It's kind of funny when you consider that the main reason they wanted to do the first Crisis was because, unlike Marvel, DC had no real continuity for most of its publishing history and now after DM everything is canon again, so they're back to square one.
>>153385187>>153385212Still weird to me that the original "faster than a speeding bullet" Superman is canonly dead and it wasn't even like a world erasure or anything, he got fuckin murked
>>153391282Wanting to fuck Superboy Prime isn't it.
>>153391356It'd be weirder if they kept him around.
>>153391356The 2000s was edgier than the 90s.
>>153391308The actual main reason was that multiple universes would be too confusing for new readers...
>>153390146Oh, he knows.
>>153390892Gwenpool writes herself!
>>153392371>>153385110>and then they had sex. it was hot.
i liked him when he was a relentless killing machine
Why does /co/ shill hard for this guy? Everywhere else people either hate him or are completely unaware of his existence and don't care at all.
>>153393504Because he’s a jaded comic fan, who hates many of the current writing tropes and characters. So basically a /co/ anon in a comic book.
>>153386846>thot: patrolled
>>153393504Because he's a former comic fan who hates all modern comic books and is trying to find some enjoyment out of itHe is us
>>153386846The mention of SBP's being a modern comic reader and that bottom panel reminds me, if this finds its way to you Williamson: you've already done quite a bit, so thanks, really, but try to squeeze in CK offhandedly saying he visited Europe and Japan to pick up BDs and Manga to see the fuss.He's young and savvy enough it wouldn't come off as a How Do You Do, Fellow Kids moment, but still help put him over more with new readers if instead of just a cape fan he binges all kinds of comics.
>>153394655Good idea. Maybe have him read some indie comics as well.
At the end of this arc I somehow want Prime to give Superman a copy of Action Comics #1 that he can keep in the Fortress. That would be cool.
>>153384933>Sins: retconnedPantha still dead (shitty Latina tv version ain't canon)
>>153393504>Everywhere else people either hate him or are completely unaware of his existence and don't care at all.Anon, try looking up Superboy Prime on Twitter or Tumblr, he's actually amassed quite a modern fanbase.
>>153395180If you care this much, it takes like 2 minutes to go to the DC wiki and check for modern appearances of Pantha in Earth Prime, she's alive and in her classic form.I don't think her tv version ever made it into the comics.
>>153393504>implyingPrime has fans.
>>153395182Yeah just like Punchline did right?
>>153395355lmao it's you again?
>>153395406Yeah it is, what are you gonna do about it?
>>153395540
>>153393504So hypothetically let's say you want people to hype up a monthly release title. You could write a good comic that gets people invested but you need good editors to do that, people who can help keep all the moving pieces in line to keep a steady flow.But if you can't do that what you can do instead is set up false and unrealistic expectations like this one character will somehow fix every single problem and issue you have with modern comics.
>>153395635>set up false and unrealistic expectations like this one character will somehow fix every single problem and issue you have with modern comics.When did DC do that exactly?I'm actually curious if you're referring to a specific issue or what.
>>153395660I look at stuff like Metal or Death Metal when I say shit like that.
>>153395824I didn't get that from those stories.Also Prime wasn't in Metal, just Death Metal, and the moral I got from that was basically to touch grass lol
>>153395901>I didn't get that from those stories.With Metal and Death Metal both I think the ending was always implying that things like the Nu52 was merely a "flaw" within DC that was fixed when the heroes saved the day.>Prime wasn't in Metal, just Death Metal, and the moral I got from that was basically to touch grass lolYet he's the furthest from reality he's even been now.
>>153396033>Metal and Death Metal both I think the ending was always implying that things like the Nu52 was merely a "flaw" within DC that was fixed when the heroes saved the day.I think that was Rebirth/Doomsday Clock actually.Metal and Death Metal were just a different kind of hopeful ideal, Death Metal in particular wanted to finish what Rebirth started by making everything* canon, not just some of it.It kinda worked, but also not really, writers pick and choose.
>>153395182>>153395322His fanbase is still pretty small. You all act like a few new pieces of fanart or posts on twitter means he's an A-lister.
>>153396091>writers pick and choose.I mean what else could that have really meant?
>>153396114>fanbase is still pretty small.This is comics we're talking about
>>153396114>You all act like a few new pieces of fanart or posts on twitter means he's an A-lister.Never said that, the original post was implying that most people either hate him or don't know he exists.My point is that Prime does in fact have fans, simple as that.He's no Batman or Superman, or even Blue Beetle, but he does have a small dedicate group of fans among comic nerds.
>>153396187Some people somehow took "everything is canon" literally as if that could somehow work.
>>153396291>yeah we're moving DC comics into a different direction>like the fourth dimension
>>153396275>He's no Batman or SupermanI mean he quite literally is Superman.
>>153396091They keep doing "the multivese is back and the pre-Flashpoint universe is back/fixed/whatever" stories and then nothing is actually done. Christ, just give me a line of books set in the post-Crisis/pre-Flashpoint DCU so I can read those and not this fagged abomination we've had for 15 years.
>>153396392>Christ, just give me a line of books set in the post-Crisis/pre-Flashpoint DCU so I can read those and not this fagged abomination we've had for 15 yearsAt this point I got to ask, how the fuck would that even work? Post-Crisis officially ended in 2011, really it ended in 2008 after Final Crisis, and like you said that's 15 years.Can you even remember what was happening at the time?
>>153396392>They keep doing "the multivese is back and the pre-Flashpoint universe is back/fixed/whatever" stories and then nothing is actually done.I blame Scott Snyder.Why? Because he actually destroyed the multiverse that Grant Morrison left behind with Multiversirty and he did almost immediately. Before anyone else can play in the sandbox Scott Snyder shat just so everyone is forced to play in his shitty sandbox he calls the dark multiverse.
>>153393504Because his punch saved the world.
>>153396471Just let writers do a version of pre-Flashpoint that continues from where it left off even if it means re-canonizing shit like Cry for Justice.
>>153396696Why?
is prime of legal age? a lot of women over 18 hitting on him
>>153396752Yes, he was aged up after being imprisoned by the Flashes for years in Infinite Crisis and then spent another year I an Oan prison before escaping, in addition to how much time has passed for him after that. But he’s at least 19.Not that that this matters since AOC laws are different in every state and Prime isn’t even a legal citizen on the Earth he’s currently living on.
>>153396392What you want is>Ignore everything done Post-FlashpointWhat they're doing is>Old Pre-Flashpoint lore is canon againThey're never going to simply erase everything they've done since 2011, that'd be stupid and is how we got into this mess in the first place.You literally can't turn back the clock and simply pick up with what they were doing Pre-Flashpoint, times are different, and even then, they would just continue the story with a modern perspective, it's not like they would suddenly go back in time to the 2010s to continue that story just like they would've done back then.
>>153396561>Why? Because he actually destroyed the multiverse that Grant Morrison left behind with Multiversirty and he did almost immediately.The multiverse was already rebooted by convergence and doomsday clock.Convergence finale was them undoing the first crisis
>>153396696I know you don't bother reading new comics, but Cry for Justice is indeed currently canon anon.Like I said, most of old Pre-Flashpoint canon is back, for better and for worse.
>>153396981Also Prime was born in the seventies, given that he was 15-16 during 1985. And he remembers growing up in this era, so he should be in his fifties mentally.So it’s weird.
>>153397080The problem isn't the multiverse being rebooted but the creation of the dark multiverse.Scott Snyder pulled of a classic bait and switch here acting like the dark multiverse was gonna open up all these new possibilities where writers can just pull what-ifs out of their asses and it will always be fun and creative.That never came to past and what actually happened is Scott Snyder became a storytelling dictator who destroyed the multiverse Grant Morrison made.
>>153385068Kek that’s what makes him charming
>>153385110…any rule 34 of SBP x Zatanna ?
>>153397370https://co.llection.pics/post/view/155422
>>153385110I want a version of this pic with SBP and his Super Friends with Benefits.
>>153395343DC sure found their audience.
Gwenpool reader here. How is Superman Prime shown to be an average comic reader? Do they make him fairly realistic or do they go full shill and have him say "Wowsers, it's Spider Miles Morales Man and Female Thor! I've read all their comics!"I don't know who DC's equivalent would be, Damien Wayne?
>>153400584>How is Superman Prime shown to be an average comic reader?He's an autistic loser that hated all the new stuff and how the DCU changed, but he eventually mellowed out, touched grass, and came back with a newfound appreciation for it all.>I don't know who DC's equivalent would be, Damien Wayne?Funny you mention that, because in the latest issue he goes up to Damian, acknowledges that he was created after his time, and asks for help on how to get accepted by the hero community, since Damian as a character was hated both in and out of universe for a long time.
>>153385214>>153391368>handsome>dangerous>dark past>uber powerfulAny woman would be into him, you stupid virgins.
>>153400771Seriously. He has all the traits evolutionary psychology has hardwired into women as desirable.
>>153392371Who's this hottie
>>153397422So it begins
>>153400688>He's an autistic loser that hated all the new stuff and how the DCU changedHe hated Didio's editorial, identy crisis in particular
>>153399370I may have something later.
>>153402527He hated many things, particularly the darkening of heroes, which Identity Crisis was a part of.
>>153402685Yes, the Didio mandated editorial.Which was controversial at best, and hated with a passion at worst
>>153402529Keep us updated.
>>153391282This
>>153402018What?
>>153384933FUCK YOU HE KILLED THE ORIGINAL SUPERMAN
>>153395343isn't Prime himself still 19?
>>153404867>U mad?
>>153405223Dunno, he was back in Countdown.
>>153405631Imagine being such an awful event that all your fifty-plus issues get damnatio memoriaed because they didn’t led to anything anyways.
>>153395322>>153393504>>153395182Don't get me wrong, I like Prime. But he's barely reached the level of Vigilante from Peacemaker. There's still more self-insert or Reader Insert/Vigilante fan fiction and fan art (albeit after two seasons and xx number of years) than there is today of SBP/reader or SBP/Todd, or SBP/Zatanna. Sure, there's fresh porn >>153397422 but that exists of gayvincble and Invincible in far larger numbers, or the MAWS Superman (to keep it in the family)A year from now, we might be able to say SBP was a huge fan favorite. Today?You're just pulling your own leg.
>>153406113My point was never that Prime was some massive icon now or something, just that he indeed have fans, particularly because of this recent push from DC.It of course doesn't compare to the popularity that an adaptation would bring to any character, of course Vigilante is more popular.
>>153406576he absolutely has fans. amount of fanart is a poor metric, and amount of fan fiction is a TERRIBLE metric for actual character popularity, but a fairly reliable metric is how much engagement and sharing that fanart is getting. it's a LOT with Prime.>>153406113everyone needs to keep in mind that SBP has a 40-year (incomplete) history in the comics, and has been portrayed in about the worst light possible for much of the last 20 years.a lot of these people are discovering SBP for the first time and liking him, and that's happening to such an extent that it's drowning out the people still acting like they're reading Infinite Crisis.we're seeing new fans of Prime exceed the influence of longtime Prime haters in the span of a few months. whether that's a flash-in-the-pan or not remains to be seen, but this was already starting to happen in the lead-up to DCKO, so it's a very long flash. it's got more sustained momentum than you think.
>>153406971>we're seeing new fans of Prime exceed the influence of longtime Prime haters in the span of a few months.I think it is because 2000s dc is being erased in general.
>>153385250So you want poorly drawn inconsistencies instead?
>>153406996well... good riddance to a lot of it, honestly. people act like the 90s were edgy but the 2000s edge was actually where it became extreme to the point of self-parody, at least in DC. in some sense SBP's rage in Infinite Crisis has more to do with the 2000s edginess, despite occurring in 2006. his over-the-top gore is literally him turning into a prime (heh) example of the pointlessly dark nonsense he was railing against.
>>153401811probably Witchfireshe was a hero though so this is a bit odd
I like Prime, but I want him to suffer for what he's done.That'll make him a true hero.
>>153385212We don't actually know if he stayed dead. The real problem is that Baby Wildebeest is essentially a Pantha side character, Pantha is not very popular both in and out of universe, and for him to exist they need a Wildebeest society or some alternative... and they don't have one.She's kind of an embarrassing character, too - just a female Wolverine ripoff (with ripoff costume, too) minus a solid cast that tolerates her gruff abrasiveness. Without fully exploring her origins, she never found out whether or not she was a woman spliced with animal DNA... or a literal feral big cat spliced with human DNA.This was a legitimate question she had about herself.Marvel ripped her off, too, though. It is extremely hilarious to me that Laura Kinney's "X-23" designation and status as an experimental test subject are literally ripped off from Pantha, whose experimental subject designation was "X-24." For Pantha, that didn't go anywhere, and probably wasn't ever going to.And yes, that means any time Laura wears a Wolverine-like costume, she's arguably ripping off DC's female ripoff of Wolverine's costume.Pantha had basically been a D-lister for a decade when Infinite Crisis happened. She was put on the New Titans in 1991 and replaced in 1994 - she didn't even make it 4 years as a regular.
>>153407799We already saw Pantha’s origin in Geoff John’s Booster Gold run.Post-Death Metal, she’s alive and married to some dude now that isn’t Red Star.She started as a new costume and look for Vixen. But people kept Vixen’s look and the costume/look got sent to Titans as new character Pantha.
>>153408048>We already saw Pantha’s origin in Geoff John’s Booster Gold run.Was that her pre-Infinite Crisis origin? I mean in terms of her finding out about it, I remember it being kind of important to her character and her not ever really getting closure about it before she was unceremoniously shipped off to Russia.>>She started as a new costume and look for Vixen>Laura's ripping off a DC character who came from a costume of a different character ripping off Wolverine's lookX-23 fans in shambles.It's me, I'm the Laura fan in shambles.
>>153408183Pre-Inifnite Crisis origin.She’s a real woman name Rosabelle Mendez. Who was kidnapped and mutated but he Wildbeest Society.
>>153408048>She started as a new costume and look for Vixen. But people kept Vixen’s look and the costume/look got sent to Titans as new character PanthaThis explains the yellow mask, were they going to fully reboot vixen's powers too?
>>153399370
>>153408233>She’s a real woman name Rosabelle Mendez. Who was kidnapped and mutated but he Wildbeest Society.Weird how DC has two different latinas mutated into being cat girls
>>153407799I bet more people know of Pantha the cartoon character than Pantha the comic character.They're very different and could honestly be completely separate.
>>153408249No, it was just going to be a new look for Vixen.
>>153384933Real Superman fans: "Superman shouldnt be violent!! It should be slice of life focused and Superman should talk himself out of the situation!"Also real Superman fans: "Ha ha ha! Villains punched! Superman is a jacked murdermachine and fucling owns!"
>>153408276Who is the other one?
>>153408261kino
>>153385110what did katana mean by that?
>>153408261based
>>153392371if he gets a hot evil gf it's official, prime won
>>153408337Oh, thanks for the explanation.>>153408363Yolanda, the female Wildcat
>>153408407>its been 20 years since Maseo died please almighty kami send me a sexy man with a big cock to fuck me for 40 days and 40 nights nonstop>uh preferably one who looks like barely legal superman if thats not too much trouble almighty kami
>>153408261This is great.
>>153395211She shows up randomly here and there, but she's finally back, after 17 years!Hey, why do I have to complete 4 captcha tests on my other pc, while on my main and phone, just 1?
>>153397167So he's no longer an immature murder-baby?
>>153406971So concrete metrics that can easily be measured such as the amount of fanart and fanfiction of a particular character can't be used to gauge popularity but somehow parameters that can be easily fabricated such as engagement and sharing can? And how can that engagement happen if the fan content isn't being produced in the first place?
>>153408596I guess Halo's lust for Superman rubbed off on Katana.
>>153408261We're All Gonna Make It is so back.
>>153385356I think there are going to be a lot of interesting conversations in a few years about whether Terra or SBP had the better redemption arc.
>>153408808anon, share metrics on social media are directly counted. fanart and especially fanfiction are biased towards certain character archetypes because of the biases of the demographics that create fanart and fanfiction. there are sizeable fandoms that have low amounts of fanart just because of the medium they're in or the types of characters the media is about.fanfiction also tends to lag behind character popularity growth in serialized work because popular fanfiction writers often wait to see how a given plot plays out. the current Superboy Prime plot is very much in "wait and see how it goes" territory.and, if you haven't noticed... Superboy Prime's popularity by ALL of these metrics has still skyrocketed compared to before. crucially, you are seeing people talk about it in places where nobody was talking about the current Superman book before.>muh fabricatedyou're either gonna have to accept that people liking something you don't aren't all bots and shills, or you'll spend the rest of your life tilting at windmills. nobody can stop you from rotating a persecution complex in your mind but yourself.
Bet he has a waifu chart.
>>153400771No anon, >>153406113 is more or less on the money here. The lack of fanfiction about Superboy Prime tells us one crucial about his fans and that's they're mostly guys.I mean it's so obvious when you look at these threads, the insistence that Superboy Prime would get bitches? Total guy thing.
>>153393504An obvious self/reader insert. That's pretty much it
>>153409583So he returned to his original job of being a self insert for the readers to interact with the DCverse
>>153409583>the insistence that Superboy Prime would get bitches?people have been making fun of >>153386846 since the issue came outone bit of referential fanart does not insistence make
>>153406971>a lot of these people are discovering SBP for the first time and liking himThat's the thing I find hardest to believe because why would they like him based on the recent comics?
>>153409713not everyone is suffering from myopic anhedonia like you are, anon
>>153409704Anon do you think I was not here to the daily posts about Superboy Prime for the last month?
>>153408261this is beautiful
>>153409746It's an honest question because the hypothetical person you're supposing sounds like someone who just doesn't exist.Like a reader who reads only Superman comics from the past decade? Never checking out any old trades from the local library? Only knows Superboy Prime from Death Metal and Williamson's Superman?
>i don't understand it so it must not exist>also here's a complete strawman that no one was suggesting at allyou cannot be helped.
>>153409879Well sorry but I don't get it and these threads tell me nothing why anyone would like Superboy Prime.Because if you wanted cocky teen Clark, then why not just write Clark as a young cocky teen living in Smallville?
there are literally people saying why in the threads, you just don't want to believe them or you literally can't read.
>>153405978It was supposed to be the big leadup to Grant Morrison's big crisis storyline but he completely ignored that boring slop, ha. How many times did Mary Marvel go evil? It was silly how they kept redoing that just for it to happen again when inside Morrisons story. But I remember mildly enjoying The Rogues duo trying to escape capture.
>>153410017Why is the onus on me to hunt for someone's opinion when you can just answer me yourself? What I'm saying is the same bullshit I saw during Death Metal where not only were people exicited and adamant that making everything canon will fix this mistake of crisis on infinite earth as if it will literally and physically erase CoIE from our timeline and now I'm seeing the same attitude from peole who think "redeeming" Superboy Prime will somehow erase the entire era of 2000s comics.
yes, anon, the onus is on you to read the threads you want to participate in. i'm glad we had this talk.
>>153410004Mainstream canon Clark wasn't cocky, anon.Even the attempt Waid is currently doing to revisit the pre-Flashpoint Superman, which he had already done with Birthright and Cereal Lord did with Secret Origins, wasn't "cocky."
>>153410123This pattern keeps popping up time and tome again right>>153406971>>153406996>>153407078Why is it?
oh we're doing ACTUAL schizo shit now... cool, cool.
>>153410180That's some fucked up character math where you cannot accept the idea of Clark of being cocky but you do want to reward Superboy Prime for being rage filled fanboy whose sense of entitlement lead him to lash out violently?Why should that opinion not be made fun of anon?
>>153409583>lack of fanfiction about Superboy Prime tells us one crucial about his fans and that's they're mostly guys.Anon, whatever you do, DON'T look at the Superboy Prime/Jason Todd tagg in ao3.
>>153406971>amount of fanart is a poor metric, and amount of fan fiction is a TERRIBLE metric for actual character popularityWhat you measure, to test for this engagement you are claiming, is exactly what studios and the other people that bankroll this shit, measure - and they have refined that ever since they realized, based on the actual performance of the Snyder Cut (e.g. ratings, duration of watch time, re-watches, subscriptions, sales, etc.), that a dedicated delusional perpetually-on-line fan base can make engagement seem larger than it actual is.With Vigilante, or to give a more recent example, Corensupe/Reader, you can totally measure things like 'kudos,' or 'reblogs' or likes. You can totally measure how much people are engaging with something on social based on page views. And Corensupe/Reader/SI/YOU, which is a small but somewhat vocal fandom, totally blows current day SBP fandom out of the water. NOW, again, don't misunderstand me, I like SBP and I'm enjoying these issues, but I'm also just being realistic. >>153406576>>153406971Some people will happily engage but what Prime really needs is a piece of fan-animation in the same way that Invincible got fan animation. Even good 2D fan art isn't going to be enough.
>>153384933More like Sloperboy Lame lol
>>153410270You mean the fanfiction of fanart? That's actually horrible example that works against your argument because that means no one is engaing with the comic, just the fanart.
>>153389292>Multiversity.I think it's weird that Earth-15 remained unchanged after the New 52 reboot while Earth-Prime did not.
>>153410333Yup u mad
>>153410343I just got here anon, you said there was no fanfiction, I'm telling you there is fanfiction.Dunno why it matters since the inspiration is still mainly Williamson's modern interpretation of Prime, that's where all this fan content is coming from.
>>153410361More like u sad lol
>>153410367The fact you just got here doesn't change anything, the fact that Superboy Prime has a virtually non-existent female fanbase still holds true.
>>153410423I dunno anon, I've seen a lot of females thirsting over Prime online.Hell, the fact that they're fantasizing about a gay relationship between him and Jason should be enough.
>>153410498Them being Jason Todd/Superboy Prime seems to be more evidence of them being TimKon shippers who probably hates whatever Williamson is doing.
>>153410522Anon, you could see the people that they are first hand if you looked up Primehood on Twitter, they're mostly Jason fans, not Tim fans.>probably hates whatever Williamson is doing.The only reason Prime is popular right is because of what Williamson is doing with him, get real.
>>153410564No if they're writing about fanfiction about fanart then they don't give a fuck about the comics.
>>153410588People can write fanfiction AND read comics.The Prime that they write about specifically takes after the current run anon, these aren't spitefics.
I'm out of the loop about Prime. Last I saw him was pre-Flashpoint where Titans (somehow) beat him and threw him at the Source Wall. I dropped DC while Dark Nights was being published, and I remember seeing a panel of him where he was like "I don't know what's going on, and worst thing is, I don't really care", and then beat up Batkek there? What's up with that? What's he doing now and why's he getting some popularity?
>>153410649I'm not saying they are spitefics, just noting that they're not actually writing about Superboy Prime but fanart about Superboy Prime.
>>153410650Snyder and Johns redeemed him in Death Metal by having him join the heroes, beat up Batkek, and touch grass, seemingly ending back in his original Earth-Prime.Recently, in issue 28 of the current Superman run, Prime came back, still good from his Death Metal appearance, revealed to actually be in a pocket dimension made by Time Trapper.He joined Superman in an adventure against an evil version of the Legion, and helped the heroes out in the latest event, DC KO.After said event, Superman went missing, so Prime is now basically playing as THE Superman for a while, the main book is currently about him.>why's he getting some popularity?DC is giving him a bit of a push, he was even in the DC/Marvel crossover, plus he's getting some fun writing, people like him.
>>153410650DC universe got so bad after rebirth that the fans also went "I don't know what's going on, and worst thing is, I don't really care".During Death Metal, Prime started his redemption arc after talking with Krypto and Wondy, than he beat Batkek [(forma de negro absoluto) completado].A while ago Prime reintroduced as a himbo version of Gwenpool.
>>153410739It's all fan content, they're all made up scenarios anyway.
>>153410650Came back in #28https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149520560/Had a big focus in the last two issueshttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152954246https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/153336097
I wonder how long this Prime arc will last and where will Prime go after.
>>153410764>Snyder and Johns redeemed him in Death Metal by having him join the heroes,No they didn't, that's such lazy reasoning on your part.
>>153410823Did they not? Snyder wrote the issue where Prime was convinced by Wonder Woman, and then Johns wrote his more introspective issue where he beats up Batkek.
>>153410823That's literally what happened though?
>>153410934It's not though, it's actually pretty nonsensical when you think about it.This guy is not redeemed because he teamed up with the heroes during a crisis.
>>153410858>Did they not?No, it's not even a question. We literally see hos actual thought process and it's irredeemably petty.
>>153410987>>153411013Alright anon, we fucking get it by now, Prime is just Punchline again or whatever.
>>153410764>Time Trapper (Forma de Doomsday) created a pocket dimension to hide an "important part of Superman's storyJesus. Is that the pocket dimension where Superboy came from in Byrne's post-crisis Superman run (Last I remember it was barren since Zod and other Kryptonians destroyed it), or did he just happen to make a pocket dimension for Superman twice?>After said event, Superman went missing, so Prime is now basically playing as THE Superman for a while, the main book is currently about him.It is hilariously ballsy to make Prime take over a Superman comic of all things. But then again on the Spider-Man side we had Norman as Spider-Man if the scans I've seen are any hint...>DC is giving him a bit of a push, he was even in the DC/Marvel crossover, plus he's getting some fun writing, people like him.Oh I'm surprised they're doing those again.>>153410789Thanks anon.
>>153410987It's a start in my eyes. Why don't you just tell us which hero he killed that you liked so much?
>>153411062>Oh I'm surprised they're doing those againThe dudes responsible for the lack of crossovers got the boot a while ago
>>153411080How can you say he's even close to redemption when you acknowledge he has dozens of victims?
>>153410498>>153410522>>153410270>>153410343There's actually very little SBP/Jason Todd.Most of the tumblr and twitter fan art is purely SBP and is more like this >>153410921 or this >>153395322 but it's definitely not just 'guys.'This is all provable even with xshitter's new shitty search engine. Certainly on other sites.
>>153411308>How can you sayI said it's a start, you disingenuous faggot. Now answer the question, you salty baby.
>>153411182Who were the people preventing crossovers?
>>153411452>Superboy Prime doesn't have as much as fanfiction as characters that have appeared in way more things than himYeah, no shit, it's not really comparable anon.My point is that for such a recent push, he's been getting a fair amount of attention.
>>153411481Didio and Quesada
>>153411452>85 worksi figured it was going to be like a dozen at most
>>153411452>Superboy Prime doesn't have as many gay fics as Damian, Bruce or readerWoah, breaking fucking news, are you going to compare him to Dick next? Maybe Roy? You dumb fucking idiot.
>>153411452It is surprising how many fics with Damian were made.
>>153411707This September, Damian will have existed for 20 years.
>>153411466It's not anywhere close to being a start.
stop forcing this character
>>153411502Oh Quesada left too? Nice. It's too bad his poison is probably still affecting ASM though... Also I just realized Prime is, sort of an isekai protagonist right now.>Overpowered (Sort of)>Big fan of the setting and thrown into it>A few named women have crushes on himI can now understand why he was brought back kek.
>>153384933Redpill me on Superboy Prime. I love his Marvel counterpart because she's cute and I love fourth wall breaking, meta stuff and isekai'd characters. Just don't know where to start and where to end.
>>153412634Grown ass women thirsting over men is repulsive. It's basically the female equivalent of catcalling
>>153412735For the short versionDC Comics Presents #87Crisis on Infinite EarthsInfinite CrisisSinestro Corps Warthen >>153410764
>>153408851>younger girl craves older Superman cock>older woman craves younger Superboy cockPoetry
>>153412634Why are thet apologizing to Lois if its not even the same Superman?
>>153412735he hasn't been this tongue-in-cheek until Death Metal. the early stuff is actually less important than ever - when Prime says "that was multiple reboots ago," he's stating a fact. Prime at his worst (and some of that is him being influenced by external forces) is actually before *New 52*and a lot of it is him being written like a petulant, entitled child, so be warned. he was not like that until Geoff Johns pulled him out of his CoIE fairytale ending and turned him into a violent, obnoxious strawman.>>153412862isn't there an appearance against the Titans in between somewhere? and does he do something in Blackest Night or no?
>>153413019Because of the implications.
>>153384933So does prime bang witchfire? Is this a thing?
>>153413085>the early stuff is actually less important than ever - when Prime says "that was multiple reboots ago," he's stating a fact.Come the fuck on guys he's still wearing the anti-monitor armor.
>>153412735>I love fourth wall breaking, meta stuff and isekai'd characters. SBP predates all that so for a good majority of his history as a character he was decidedly non-meta who just existed as a earnest fanboy.
>>153413085He was comedic before but it was buried under a really thick layer of "next level edgy".Like his narration when destroying a world (green arrow shouldn't be bald, cyborg shouldn't be in the league, and this second aquaman is an impostor)
>>153413180The Prime part of his name comes from the fact he comes from Earth-Prime, our "real world", where he grew up as Clark Kent, a DC comic fanboy who was bullied for being a comic book fanboy who looked like Superboy and had the same name.It's only through meeting the "Real" Superman is it shown Clark Kent the fanboy really does have the superpowers of Superman which makes him the only real Superhero of Earth-Prime.That's the first apperance
>>153411748Fuck...how old is he now? 11?
>>153413259His second apperance was during Crisis on Infinite Earths as one of the trump card for the event where as one of the strongest superheroes around he was one of the few powerful enough to directly fight the antimontor.After the end, to prevent any paradoxes of more than one Clark Kent exisiting, him and Earth-2 Superman choose to live in a pocket dimension meant to be like a paradise where Clark Kent Prime reminiscence about his Earth that used to be.Second apperance.
>>153410004Prime S-Boy isn't cockyhe is just confident that when he steps on the stage he is dominantand so he's beggin'Beggin', beggin youput your loving hand out babyBeggin', beggin youput your loving hand out darling
>>153413019He looks like a younger Clark, so it's more than a little awkward to thirst for him.
>>153413085>and a lot of it is him being written like a petulant, entitled child, so be warned>is a stand-in for comic fandomJeez, I wonder why they made that decision...
>>153413527>Jeez, I wonder why they made that decision...Psychological projection, Prime was behaving exactly like Didio, down to filling out cemeteries with the members of the Titans.
>>153413571>Didio's greatest enemy is himself
>>153413374His third apperance came in Infinite Crisis, 20 yeara after the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Here he comes back as a villainSome background info first tho.>after CoIE (Crisis on infinite Earths) the biggest change to the status quo is the erasure, something that was introduced in itself 20 years prior>from this came one singular Earth* that was created patchwork from all the surviving Earth>characters that were created were in the 40s were left to be in the 40s as WWII Superheroes, except for characters like Batman and Superman who got modern retoolingsThis is the actually brilliant part of post-crisis Earth, you basically have this scale of History that turns your big names like Superman into players of an even bigger picture.*Vertigo Earth is basically canon UP TO A POINT but what that point is can be ambiguous.
>>153413719Now the stories were getting darker after CoIE but the stories were getting darker before CoIE too and not just in comics but in media in general. What made DC comics unique was the ability to compare and contrast as characters from the "pre-crisis" Earths were being retoold and reintroduced where you can really see the sex and violence being ramped up through the contrast. Now it's this contrast and the supposed isolation through being one of the only 4 people in a pocket dimension that Superboy-Prime and Alexander Luthor go insane and begin plotting to escape and destroy the post-crisis Earth to allow them to recreate the worlds they once knew with Superboy-Prime being the dumb brawn being manipulated by Alexander.
>>153413618>It is all your fault!!! I am working to make DC brighter!!! *proceeds to do edgelordery".
>>153384933True
>>153413958It is because of the Bronze age, it was more mature than the silver age or the edgefest of modern.Even Jason's death was far less gorey than what Morrison did to Damian and his clone.
>>153413958By the time of Infinite Crisis Superboy-Prime has retreated in a fantasy world where he can replace Conner and live in an idealized world that wasn't even his in the first place, remember he is effectively from "our" world and he's talking about living out the comics he was reading. He's crazy.And it's from killing Conner that he fully snaps and descends into villainy where if he can't live life as Superboy then the world has to die fully now.
>>153389292The one universe where Jason Todd saved Gotham City.
>>153414016>Even Jason's death was far less gorey than what Morrison did to Damian and his clone.I dunno, getting stabbed by a sword is one and done. Meanwhile Jason got the Casino treatment from Joker.
>>153414016>It is because of the Bronze ageNot really, it's more like the bronze age was a reflection of greater social trends.It didn't cause anything to get darker, things were jist getting darker.
>>153414110I am pretty sure Morrison planned the cartel treatment for Damian, but settled for the clone instead.
>>153414165The golden age literary started during the great depression and a all out world war.Comics got more soft with the code, but the social themes of the golden age were returning.
>>153414063Now Infinite Crisis ends with Superboy-Prime locked up in a red sun guarded by the Green Lantern Corps which helps sets up his fourth apperance in Sinestro Cirps war where he basically acts as a wildcard who's really there to help Geoff Johns to effectively make the prophecy of the blackest night from Alan Moore's GL oneshot "Tyger" be fulfilled while still having this intergalactic space opera that was the sinestro corps war be more about Hal and Sinestro than Sodam Yat who would be too busy fighting Superboy-Prime.
>>153414216>The golden age literary started during the great depression and a all out world warMid to late 20th century is dominated by a contest between two imperial superpowers who turned the entire globe into a battlefield.
>>153414354The silver age happened during said period, and the Bronze age Firestorm wasn't as edgy despite its cold war background.
>>153385110STOP liking evil men on a crappy redemption arc you fucking HAGS
>>153414315The Fifth apperance of Superboy-Prime is just Geoff Johns tying up loose ends by writing Superboy-Prime out of the stort, literally. At the end of Final Crisis:Legions of three worlds Superboy-Prime is sent back to his world, Prime Earth brought back fully, but without powers and the horrors of his friends and family who know all about his mass murdering spress through the very comics he always loved.
>>153414455I wonder if this was a meta commentary about how Johns' social circle saw his career.
>>153414486No that really doesn't make any sense.
>>153414529"Close friends had a negative reaction after what they saw Johns/Prime do in the comics".
>>153413259>>153414063Why is a character from the "real world" necessary in a fictional universe?
>>153414555he's a schizo anon, please understand
>>153414455There is a sixth apperance of Superboy-Prime too, a fitting epilogue to the 3-act tragedy. It's a blackest night crossover and the most meta Superboy-Prime where he learns of his Death coming next issue. There we see the boy from all those years ago, someone rational to realize all the damage he's done and hating himself for it.That story on a strangely hopeful note, a Black Lantern Laurie, the girl he always loved, consoling him while her black ring curiously sparks blue, the color of hope.
>>153414648Originally he was a self insert for the fans, so they could participate of the biggest event/battle of the DCverse.
>>153414555But who do you think his social circle is that they would be horrified by his writing career?
>>153414674>There we see the boy from all those years ago, someone rational to realize all the damage he's done and hating himself for it.Considering some weirdnesses involving post identity crisis Ray Palmer, I wonder if they secretly regretted some of the early 2000s stories.
>>153414689Comics are seen as a lowbrow form of entertainment, and Johns even went full Karen once, using the fact that he wrote Aquaman against costume services.
>>153414724I'm gonna give Geoff Johns lot of credit and say that Superboy-Prime is a twofold commentary on literally all of that and that while Superboy-Prime is a scathing satire on fanboys, Geoff Johns is self-aware enough to know that he's fanboy too and that lot of what Superboy-Prime is saying is meant to resonate with longtime readers.Geoff Johns hears you and on some level he kinda agrees but on the other hand lot of you can be really mean about it.
>>153414724some of the regret isn't exactly secret with a lot of writing low points in general.
>>153411590Jason has almost as many gay fics with Roy as he does with Bruce - and that's not counting the thropples with him, Roy and Starfire, or the ones with him, Artemis and Biz. And yes, Jason actually has way more with Dick.Does that make you happy, son? Does it make you proud?Does it make you erect? Is that what it takes?Or just shit-posting and trolling on a Mongolian basket-weaving shit hole enough?
>>153409583We're talking about in-universe women, retard.
>>153415564Ok, in that case all these women would find him morally repulsed that they simply wouldn't even have any physical attraction towards him.
>>153415608And yet, it didn't happen.
>>153415608Yeah, like all those women that are morally repulsed by Christopher Watts, right? Oh wait, he has female groupies fighting over him.
>>153402527He's just like me
>>153415656Yeah, the point it's humiliating to denigrate these characters to just mere murder groupies.
>>153385110>>153408261Needs an orgy>this is Katana, she’s got your balls
>>153416539From that position I think Vixen's got Prime's balls covered
>>153416676Vixen? Loves tonguing men's asses and fucking anywhere you want it. Its why she's better than Storm.
>>153416676>>153416757Zatanna? Slut that fucks disheveled men and will take two dicks in one hole.Huntress? Fucks her students and their dads plus hot criminalsKatana? She hasn't been fucked in years and will ride you to near deathWitchfire? Bratty emo witch that just needs stern but loving CORRECTION and being facefucked hard twice a day
>>153413089Are they going to take him on a boat trip?
>>153412896Perfectly balanced>>153413019Because it looks bad that they're all dripping wet for barely legal Superman while actual Superman is away for cosmic bullshit>>153413114Within the next 6 issues
>>153417814Yes, the SS /ss/
>>153418018Meant for>>153417659
>>153415361Yes, with Johns it is notably during early n52, he tried to redeem Doctor Light, and oddly used The Atom as a twist villain.The Atom is notorious since originally Atomica was going to be Palmer.
>>153418018>>153418042Prime isn't that young, he's not even underage, he's legal.
>>153419337
>>153414175you know this is kind of appropriate context for Damian and Prime's exchange in the most recent issue. people these days have largely forgotten the horrible things Damian got up to.as an aside, it's always funny when the art makes a kid character look like a 30-year-old man's head glued to the body of an 8-year-old
