And yet he's not wrong

nothing worse than a race traitor they deserve the worst and most painful executions

>>153398108
THUS SAYITH MOSES

Thaedus either likely killed his kid through the Scourge Virus or died a virgin

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when just one is exiled they mate thousands of times with an inferior species just to build a new army
Thaedus was totally correct

>>153398154
he wasn't though?

>>153398124
We see enough of these among the white race. Especially shitty liberal white women. Such traitors should be made useful and then brutally killed.

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>>153398108
i will post it again as many times
>sympathetic xenophile kills your king
>super god-like people fall into civil war (This is what happened in the comics, none of that retarded ordered purge nonsense in the show)
>grow up and reunite the entire race
>clearly, being a sympathetic traitorous xenophile is a mistake
>conquer xenos for resources to restore your people
>new plague emerges
>only your people die
>it was the fucking traitorous sympathetic xenophile, AGAIN
>nearly go extinct
>Zero tolerance towards xenophilia or rebellion because one small fucking mistake or successful uprising and we're all dead
>Another fucking traitorous sympathetic xenophile
>What is it about these literal fucking bug people that makes a retard self-hate and want to genocide their own race?
>Mfw they gang up on their own people with their literal bug children, biological or otherwise, saying we brought this on ourselves when they did everything to make us worse

He was right. Viltrumites are bad. The series is a tragedy because it doesn't end in Viltrumite genocide.

>>153398177
>Another fucking traitorous sympathetic xenophile
The worst part is that he is the direct descendant of your King whom your only role was to find and then the rest of your people ditch you like used toilet paper.

>>153398213
yeah, that was justified
>>153398195
No
The Viltrumite's are too beautiful to me to genocide.
Also, they just need basic empathy, which is retarded but that's the facts

>>153398108
White guilt is a hell of a drug

>>153398720
oy vey, goyim
you must suffer for the lesser, i mean, unprivileged races

>>153398177
>Be evil niggers
>Get killed
What's the problem with this?

>>153398937
>be weak cattle
>get killed by real people
what's the problem with this?

>>153398958
>If a nigger randomly guns you down he was the real person and you deserve to die
What the fuck?

>>153398996
>he relaxed

>>153398996
Might makes right. All those other xenos are hideous losers who deserve to be dominated

>>153398108
Thragg, we know it's you

>>153399095
Lmao get scourge virus'd then, fight smarter not harder

>>153399247
>50 viltrumites left
>still lose

>>153398108
>Kills Argal thinking Viltrumites will become nicer with him dead
>they are pissed and double down on being conquering dicks
>Create virus to kill a ton of them, without bothering to ever check the results on that (how the FUCK did nobody notice the Viltrumites have been the same 50 dudes for thousands of years until Nolan told them)
>they are really pissed and still conquering shit

>Decide to blow up their entire planet
>"YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO SURRENDER"
No you retard, they're super pissed and rip your head off

>>153399260
thank you

>>153398108
Listen I hate race traitors as much as you but I am glad this one existed because viltrumites? You see what they do to their own kids? Nah they gotta go fuck that lmao and literally conquest exist, that man's entire existence negates any benefit of the viltrumites.

>>153398108
the difference between viltrum and their modern real world equivalent is expansion. if viltrum simply sought to maintain their ethnostate you could frame theadus as a race traitor. instead they seek literally endless expansion and you must participate on penalty of death. you don't want to genocide a random xeno planet of lobsters your only option is treason.

>>153399331
racr traitor detected

>>153398154
are they all attracted to lobsters too?

>>153399095
You're not a viltrumite. The cuck is you.

>>153398108
I thought it was kinda dumb that he convinced the other race traitors to blow up a perfectly good planet, instead of, I dunno, just doing a massive book burning of all the "toxic" culture and media? Then again, this is the same race that wanted to strip mine the Earth and make it uninhabitable. Collectively they're almost Pakled-tier retarded

>>153399418
no
they wanted to breed humans

>>153398108
it's really hard to see him as a good guy. engineering the destruction of your own species, their home planet, while advancing the interests of aliens is absolutely vile

>Humans who support the empire get a free Viltrumite tomboy GF to breed
Now will you support them?

>>153398177
Cope and seethe Vilfag

>>153399331
>instead they seek literally endless expansion and you must participate on penalty of death.
Being a conqueror doesn't make you irredeemably evil, thats why Kirkman had to write them into being retarded evil on top of that. Alexander The Great killed a lot of people. Only people he spared in Siege of Tyre were those who sought refuge inside a temple of Apollo, everyone else was massacred. Yet the dude is regarded as a great hero and leader to this day.

The writers will inevitably handwave this but how fucked are the viltrumites on planet Earth?
Like okay, they hide within us, however
>can't fly anymore or you'll get spotted
>can't use super strength or you'll get spotted
>no birth certificate
>no work history
>can't take sobriety tests or receive any health care check ups since I doubt normal needles can ever hope to pierce the skin
How would they be able to function in normal society without red flags being raised?
Don't say
>just turn to crime
That's the exact opposite of laying low.

>>153399518
i support them because they're cool moustachioed demigods. i don't need to consider the moral implications of it because it's a fucking cartoon.

>>153400274
This is the contradictory thing about modern sensibilities. People compare themselves to the figures of old but discount what they actually did, only regarding how they are remembered. They praise "progress" and lament what they came from, ironically what drove them towards "progress" in the first place and was likely itself "progress." The modern zeitgeist is fucking schizophrenic.

Comic Viltrumites make sense. The show made them so fucking retarded, it's almost comical. Everything they say and do is contradictary. Thragg wanting to find Argall's heir while knowing the man and then having the Viltrumites purge each other, but he also feels a void every time a Viltrumite dies. Conquest being a murder and destruction loving demon who accepts all the bad that comes with it and lamenting that it's all he's good for. None of this is consistent with itself.

>>153400275
You're talking Earth that has plenty of superbeings of its own, just not as strong as Viltrumites. Go work as a mercenary for some government secret agent program, pretend its the machine on top of you that give you the powers.

>>153400310
>work as a mercenary
>they need to know your blood type in case you get hurt
Cecil would spot your ass immediately as he finds Viltrumite blood types being submitted.

>>153398108
>VILTRUM BAD
yes

>ME HATE VILTRUMITES
yes

>ME SHAMEFUL FOR BEING VILTRUMITE
sounds reasonable

>>ME PROCEED TO KILL VILTRUMITE LEADER AND TRY TO ATTEMPT GENOCIDE ON THE REST THROUGH DEVASTATING PLAGUE
because when he tried "maybe being less-evil tyrants because it will actually make things easier" he was immediately shutdown with "actually we need to be evil on principle"

>ME PROCEED TO KILL VILTRUMITE LEADER AND TRY TO ATTEMPT GENOCIDE ON THE REST THROUGH DEVASTATING PLAGUE
because the leader was running a cult of personality, and cutting off the head should have left the rest to rot
only for the grand regent to declare a global kumite to cull everyone who might have more than 2 brain cells

>OOPSIE THAT JUST MADE THINGS WORSE
reducing the billions of city-tier power level supermen down to just 50 certainly bought the rest of the universe a bit of time

>>153400300
To be fair Alexander the Great himself became a bit of a grumpy despot later in the campaign. He executed one of his best friends who saved him more than once during the campaign. He also had a problem with alcohol. So Conquest change at least makes sense. Viltrumite tv philosophy overall doesn't. The whole "blend in the crowd"-idea doesn't make any sense either, Viltrumite empire should simply take over the Earth and pose as "peaceful conquerors" who have "come to learn the Earth ways" to keep the breeding cattle happy and breeding.

>>153400327
Yeah, I kind of had that idea in my Zoe rapefic. When Robot starts his take over of Earth from the shadows, the Viltrumites, still led by Thragg because Zoe getting captured meant Allen died and no one could save Thaedus in time, they attack him, saving the world from a corrupt inhuman AI and all the heroes who didn't go along with his bullshit.

>>153400324
>because when he tried "maybe being less-evil tyrants because it will actually make things easier" he was immediately shutdown with "actually we need to be evil on principle"
Lions and sheep, anon. Lions and sheep.
>because the leader was running a cult of personality, and cutting off the head should have left the rest to rot
Do you not know how anything works?
>only for the grand regent to declare a global kumite to cull everyone who might have more than 2 brain cells
Bad change. Horrible even. Really stupid. Should've gone with the civil war.
>reducing the billions of city-tier power level supermen down to just 50 certainly bought the rest of the universe a bit of time
If that's all it did, maybe the universe deserves to be conquered. Good lord.

>>153400275
Canonically there is a massive chaos on earth in universe, too many people died during the invincible wars across the most populated countries.
Probably even a billion of casualties in total.
So it is quite easy for them to steal ID from some of their casualties since they are just 35 suckers.
The super powers is not even an issue too, there are super powered dudes in that world even among the normies. They can just limit their powers to “well i’m very durable” , “i can fly” or “i’m stronk” without showing the rest of the powers and they can blend quite easily.

For the cultural shock and the employment is a different matter.
I like to believe the system is so currently fucked that even your average /co/non can be employed for anything .
Basically Unemployment is the last of Invincible ‘s world problem

>>153400348
>Lions and sheep.
he was literally arguing from machievellis playbook, which is that your kingdom will last longer if you leave the normal people alone
the textbook for amoral leaders was somehow not evil enough for them

>If that's all it did, maybe the universe deserves to be conquered
the scourge unambiguously checked the viltrimute advance, it was effective
the only problem was that it didnt finish the job, but thats just a setup for the story proper

the only thing thaedus did wrong was not using the scourge virus first

>>153400359
And what did Machievelli accomplish?

>>153400365
create a framework on how to avoid being either a general uprising or assassinated
and to the surprise of absolutely no one, the the head viltrumite got assassinated for ignoring it

>>153400359
> the only thing thaedus did wrong was not using the scourge virus first

For all we know , he could’ve produced it only after his betrayal.

I know people memes that Nolan was present and alive during Argall funeral’s purge… but are we sure about that?
It could’ve been just “random viltrumite reused JPG” , or even just Nolan’s father when he was younger.
This way that purge might still have happened 50-100 years before the scourge virus, which by Viltrumite time standards is still quite early considering the fuckers can live for millennia

>>153400372
it's cute that you think that

>>153400384
>It could’ve been just “random viltrumite reused JPG” , or even just Nolan’s father when he was younger.
nolan's father and mother were in the same frame with him

>guy who is not a politician or ruler writes a book about it
>people who are not politicians or rulers eat it up

>>153400384
>>153400396
Whole Thadeus plot is just reverse of Superman backstory where his father was trying to save Kryptons. So now instead we get a scientist who tries to genocide them all.

>>153400423
>not a politician
he was literally a politician as well as a civil servant

>people who are not politicians or rulers eat it up
the prince is most infamous for people not reading it all or only reading a few out of context lines
but its still one of the most influential books on ruling ever written because it reflects political reality rather than idealism
its concerned solely with the self-interest of the state, you are a benevolent ruler when it suits the nation, you are magnanimous when it suits the nation

>>153400448
ah yes the secretary
yes
you're doing it right now

>>153400448
>>153400463
I mean, do you consider the leader of a militia a politician?

>>153400463
>ah yes the secretary
a secretary in the same sense of the word as we call leaders of the cabinet a secretary
and regardless of what you call his position, he was active in political affairs

and more to the point, the prince has been widely read both in and out of the political context because many of its principles are simply very broadly applicable to any leadership position

I miss Rexplode

>>153400511
lol
sure buddy

>>153400481
the important thing to note is that his position let him serve under many, many different leaders and gave him access to how they ran their governments
but he also served as a diplomat and as an advisor, so he wasnt totally working behind the scenes either
the prince is simply a synthesis of everything he saw happen in government, its observational rather than something he simply magicked up out of thin air

>>153400527
and in the end he was exiled
wop wop woop

>>153400541
and in the end, he got the last laugh because italy became a republic and most people today live under some form of republic

the basic rule of "hey, maybe dont make the common people hate you" has ended up proving to be the best way to rule

>>153399271
>You see what they do to their own kids?
Only because of the desperate times the Optimus Prime fucker helped to bring about.

The show made Viltrumites unreasonably evil. In the comic they have committees, they vote for stuff, it's implied there's different careers one can pursue, they can marry multiple times, they tell stories to their children etc.

>>153401407
Oh, and they get medals and awards for stuff.

>>153398108
He was completely right.