The books are serviceable at best & Frank really carries it. Did Joe Quesada make a deal with The Devil?
>>153409985>Daredevil had hype over Kevin Smith and Quesada working on it and it still did okay for a while even after Smith stopped writing it, it was still ordered more than most Marvel books>Inhumans had some buzz>Black Panther had some critical acclaim>Punisher (angel era, not Ennis) while poorly received still sold better than the final year of the prior seriesEnnis/Dillon Punisher sold really well, ended up on the Top 10 comics retailers ordered in 2000 month to monthThe only comics that were ordered more than Ennis/Dillon Punisher were Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Wolverine, and Avengers
>>153409985>Chuck Dixon saves Marvel gets blacklisted.
>>153409985I lived through that era, but I believe it was during the time Marvel was going Bankrupt and just sold the rights of Spiderman to Sony and X-men/Fantastic Four to Fox. Comic side, it wasn't doing that great and tried to implement a more mature content comic line within Marvel. Not as deep as DC Vertigo, but enough to be more PG-13 than current Marvel comics aloud it. >>153411467I'm trying to remember when Marvel Knight first came out. Was it just after Heroes Reborn? Or still while All those characters where away?
>The books are serviceable at best Inhumans and BP are great. come on
>>153412939Marvel Knights was 1998, not long before Byrne's reboot of Spider-Man was about to happen. Timeline is like this:1996-1997: Heroes Rebornlate 1997/early 1998: Heroes Return launch (Busiek/Perez Avengers, Waid/Garney return to Cap, Busiek/Chen on Iron Man, and I forget who was on Fantastic Four). All the heroes were back.Autumn 1998: Marvel Knights launches, then Spider-Man Chapter One
>>153412939Fox bought the film rights to X-Men in 1994, before Marvel went bankrupt in 1996.Bernd Eichinger had the film rights to the Fantastic Four and maintained them via the Corman F4 film being made and then worked with Fox (they were already trying to get an F4 project going as far back as 1995, a year before Marvel went bankrupt but during the time of the Heroes World stuff and Marvel having problems to begin with)
>>153411467Also keep in mind this was also going on at the time Marvel Knights launched all the way to when Quesada was announced as EIC:Heroes Return had a pretty good launch, but only Avengers did consistently well, becoming Marvel's best-performing non-X title. The others were okay but started to drift on the chartPAD had since left Hulk, Joe Casey took over and reactions were mixed. John Byrne took over and did a relaunch that didn't go over well either.Spider-Man got revamped under Byrne and it didn't go over well.X-Men had that Twelve storyline which people didn't like, Claremont returned but the sales didn't do as well as the prior year's sales, IIRC
>>153413098(You) come on
>>153409985But at what cost?
The rest of the line was Harras and Brevoort doing dull boomer comics. It would only come to a surprise to Bob Harras that a book that looks and reads like this would get outsold by Ennis/Dillon Punisher and Mack/Quesada Daredevil.
>>153409985>HOW DIS DI THING I SAID IT DO??>ARGUE AGAINST MAH POINT!!!!Who the fuck said it "saved" Marvel, dipshit? You're the one making the claim. This whole fucking board has become low IQ with this retard bullshit of making claims then whining against it.
>>153418083>The rest of the line was Harras and Brevoort doing dull boomer comicsThis. As a 12 year old boy reading Marvel Knights Daredevil or Punisher and then going to Mackie's Amazing Spider-Man or Claremont's X-Men was like reading comics from two entirely different publishers. I never gave a shit about Daredevil before but the Marvel Knights stuff looked so much cooler than the boring shit going on in Amazing or X-Men that I started spending my meager allowance on Daredevil rather than Spider-Man
>>153418083I remember reading this as a kid thinking "Jesus Christ there's no way Spider-Man could every get worse than this". Oh how wrong I was. How. Wrong.
>>153409985I know the retcons suck, but I enjoyed Who Is The Black Panther. There, I said it.
