Why does a mediocre comic about a talking aardvark which has amazing backgrounds which aren't even drawn by the creator make people seethe so much decades later? Like move onp people it's 2026.
>>153416168it's the same incel shit, dave would have made a killing nowadays
younger generations hating the problematic shit the old guard ignored is just natural.and it was always problematic and disgusting, that's why I never cared for cerebus, just like I don't care for other people to be more vocal than I am about it.
>>153416168Women are Wonderful effect have fucked-up alot of people's thinking, It's weird that SBP is going down the breadtuber path.
>>153416168Is that you Resident Grigo? You have dogshit taste.
>>153416263 Cerebus is a really cool comic visually but as an actual story it's just kind of whatever even before the whole hating women thing like it's half serious half parody just kind of jank I rather read other books from the time like The Tick or Flaming Carrot because at least they didn't try to be more than what they were supposed to be.
>>153416273I mean he was always down to that direction because it's the audience that gives him money and follows him on his websites.>>153416263That YouTuber who made that video was old.
>>153416168Dave's insanity is contagious.
>>153416168I read the comic that second video was about instead of watching the videoThe art was neat. But not much else.
Because a good chunk of Cerebus is actually very good and Sim is extremely talented so it makes the turn it takes fascinating to discuss It's also still historically notable for being completely self published and done by one guy and a background artist for 300 issues
I will never praise anyone for creating something beautiful and problematic, at the end of the day it's just disappointing.
>>153416445>at least they didn't try to be more than what they were supposed to beThat's why I don't read them.
>>153416567Correct answer. If you ask actual cartoonists, especially ones who are old enough that they read the comic back before Sim went obviously nuts, they'll flatly admit that he's the biggest innovator in the medium since Eisner and arguably more important. Sim made a shit-ton of advancements in paneling, lettering, you name it; his mastery of the craft of cartooning is insane. The fact that he himself also is doesn't detract from that.
>>153416957>Crafting for cartooning was insane>Looks kike most B&W comics with a wacky panel throw in here or there.
>>153417138There are absolutely god-tier panels in Cerebus that I haven't seen other B&W comics do or replicate.
>>153416168Strange brain guy said a few years ago that he wouldn't bother doing the second half of Cerebus because he didn't like it but it looks like he still ended up making two videos back to back if you read the stories in the phonebooks (like 90% of readers) you'd never even get Dave's anti feminist stuff...that was all stuff he wrote int he letter pages in the individual issues.
He doesn't look enough like an actual aardvark
>>153417527>if you read the stories in the phonebooks (like 90% of readers) you'd never even get Dave's anti feminist stuff...that was all stuff he wrote int he letter pages in the individual issues.Nah, Reads is full of it, and so are the last few arcs.
>>153416168There's just a certain brand of nerd that hates any older cooler stuff that doesn't conform to their libtarded world view. You need to understand that these are fags who think silver age comics are offensive and shouldn't be taken seriously
>>153417568The same type of goof that HAS to remind you everytime that Lovecraft was racist.
>>153417539I haven't read the series in awhile but I don't really remember that much stuff being overtly sexist. Even if it's Cerebus doing something bad (like raping Astoria) he isn't exactly portrayed in a good light.
>>153416608Faggot
>>153417568Imagine coming into a Cerebus thread to announce that you've never read Cerebus.I can promise you, adopting conservative politics did not make the final third of Cerebus into a good comic.
>>153417736Never said I read it. Just stating a fact that even libtarded for the time media is offensive to modern nerds. Like this for example >>153417592. Lovecraft matured past those views, but fags still obsess over his "racism">adopting conservative politics did not make the final third of Cerebus into a good comicIt also didn't retroactively make it a bad comic like fags want people to believe
I don't know how Sim became the defacto misogynist comics creator because he dared to speak-up against gynocentrism, It's not like he's Kirkman and Slott who write the most insufferable women characters.
>>153417784Cerebus was a good comic when the author had liberal views (feminism = good, secularism = good, gays = good). Cerebus became a bad comic when the author changed his mind.This is the shit you're trying to defend while knowing nothing about it. Sit down and shut up, you're out of your element.
>>153417784>>153417823It might help you to understand if you ever looked into what he was actually saying.Here's a good one. Have you ever owned a cat or a dog? Owning housepets is how women destroy your soul and collapse civilization, doncha know.
>>153416603>problematicWhat is this, 2014?
>>153417839He's not wrong.
>>153417618The actual reads in Reads are Viktor Davis (i.e. Dave Sim's self-insert) going on about how his ex-wife is a vicious parasitical bitch but actually no worse than other women, because they're parasites by nature and women read minds, guys.
>>153417736Sim didn't "adopt conservative politics", he became a full blown schizo. His persecutory delusions fixate on women and so you decided that makes him a conservative, but he's way too nutty for any simple categorization like that.
>>153417982Cope
>>153417990>Sim didn't "adopt conservative politics", he became a full blown schizoVery thin line between the two.
>>153418088No
>>153416168Just toxic grifter shit. If they think it will make them money, they will bitch about it
>>153417982He's not wrong, women are parasitical
>>153417990The conservatives seem to claim Sim as their own, including inside this very thread. >DUDE you liberals don't understand him because you're just too libtarded LMAO
>>153417829Are those …heckin’ words !!! In my comic !!! SAVE ME MANGA!!!!!
>>153416168Strange Brain Parts is a good channel, he often leaves his personal ideologies at the door. But from time to time he pushes these more "mainstream topic" videos; I assume because his more niche ones don't get as many views. I mean he made like 4 videos on Ditko (I think) because it gets him a ton of views.
>>153417990This, even if Sim went far into the other direction and instead became a hardcore feminist instead, the issue lies in that Cerebus had become so much of a soapbox for his views that entire issues were just literal walls of text and essays espousing his views, and barely any images.It may be artistic and provocative but absolutely going to turn off the average reader either way.
>>153417990>Sim didn't "adopt conservative politics", he became a full blown schizo>Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures.jpg
>>153418764Nice fanfic
>>153417138Yeah, french and manga at that time and prior were objectively better. Dave had wonky anatomy and perpsective, but white right-wingers overrate mediocrity whenever they see someone support their agenda. They overrate crap like Birth of a Nation or Triumph of the Will as being innovative despite people doing it better prior withoit being assholes.
Saw a comment summing up Cerebus best as the most elaborate and ambitious way an artist ever depicted their own decline from dementia.
>>153417527>Strange brain guy said a few years ago that he wouldn't bother doing the second half of Cerebus because he didn't like it but it looks like he still ended up making two videos back to backHe says that it's because a bunch of his viewers requested it, and the Guys video did so much better than his other videos that he made another Cerebus video one soon after.
>>153418763You just described South Park.
This is a covert /pol/ ragebait thread, isn't it?
>>153418833Nice cope
>>153418809>>153419175Bot posts.
>>153419219That’s your post
>>153417324brehs how to fuck do I get this good at BnW inking and lettering
>>153419155Take your meds.
>>153417784>Lovecraft matured past those views, but fags still obsess over his "racism"This is a constantly parroted lie that I hear a lot more often than "libtards" complaining about Lovecraft's racism.
>>153416168OP, complaining about something you don't need to engage with that's about someone complaining about something they don't need to engage with is Kafkaesque.
>>153417324Everything visually great about this comic comes from the background artist more than Sim.
>>153418746Anything for money.
>>153420243Gerhard is the biggest waste in comics and the fact he never really did anything of note after is tragic.
>>153420243Sim's lettering is also amazing.>>153420301He did Cerebus. That's of note.
>>153421233>He did Cerebus.I'm not familiar with that one. Is that a typo for Cerberus or something?
>>153418833No, Birth of a Nation is actually a great example because even hardcore libs admit that it's extremely technically innovative and was one of the first films to understand how to make a narrative visceral and gripping via film. I had a black lecturer in college talk about watching it and being so immersed he practically shouted GO KLAN! in the chase sequence. This was sort of lost with the more hardcore wave of identity politics, but most liberals actually used to get that it's incumbent on you to understand the mechanisms of good propaganda if you want to defeat it. You can disagree with the content and still grasp how well made it is on a technical level.
>>153417592I love these people. Especially pastiche writers that you can tell hate him so goddamn much and despise that they rely on his work to be able to sell theirs. It's made even funnier by the fact that Lovecraft was an ardent and humble supporter of other authors and literally tried his hardest to help nobodies succeed because he just fucking loved reading and writing fiction so god damn much.
>>153422049Now that you mention it, it's funny how he managed to be a virulent racist and also a better person than most of his detractors.
>>153422081Turns out morality isn't a logical 0/1 statment
>>153416168Those titles are so fucking long man you're doing a YouTube video not an blog.
>>153417531>he
>>153416168>ITT: Floppyfaggots get upset that a comic artist and writer isn't as left as they areComics are dying because you degenerates, and Sim is correct that Feminism is poison.
>>153423051Dogs and cats are poison too? Or do you just blindly believe in him without even knowing what he argues?
>>153422983Yes>>153423051Fuck of, samefag
>>153416168Because Cerebus is unique in schizophrenic art in that, on a technical level, it's executed with astonishing finesse and talent, and on a meta level is a fascinating trail of one man completely losing his mind. Modern readers struggle to follow Sim not just because of the extremeness of his views or the shamelessness with which he conveys them, but because they're not trained to grasp just how deep it goes. When Sim writes at length about women being black hole parasites upon men's vitality, he's not speaking metaphorically in a sort of redpill "women belong in the kitchen" way, but in a very literal "women are extradimensional tapeworms from the void that psychically consume the divine energy within men".It's a one-of-a-kind read, but you need to approach it with a mindset that not everyone can achieve.
It's a better Canadian export than Scott Pilgrim.
>>153424196Wait.. It's Canadian?
>>153424653Kino.
>>153424036You explained it better than I did. Good post.
>>153423832>calls someone a samefag for no reason other than he's an obsessive faggot, that is a leftistYou have literal-whos living in your head free of charge, degenerate. You are the reason why comics are failing as a medium and an industry.
There was already a Cerebus thread, retard.
>>153429050you're right let's have another one
>>153429050If there can be a thread for Questionable Content there can be two for Cerebus.
>>153424036>but in a very literal "women are extradimensional tapeworms from the void that psychically consume the divine energy within men".Kinda true though
>>153418833Nobody loves you
>>153416228>incelyou mean, he spoke truth about woke culture and feminism? "incel" stopped being an insult long time ago
>>153416445or maybe you're just a brainlet, who should indeed read unfunny slop like the tick or flaming faggot, that does look like more your speed
>>153416567Don't expect any discussion on /co/mblr. We're talking about coomer pedos, who fap and simp to anything with vagina. Any intellectual debate here would be lost among the "how dare he" screeching
>>153417618ironically, raping Astoria didn't trigger the feminicunts. It was his tangents
>>153417982Not really. He discusses, and analyzes to great length the general nature of women, but also how society indulges women to excess, and treats them like babies, instead of full grown humans. And he wasn't wrong. When you take any responsibility from women, and agree with "my body, my choice", then you get the hell that we are living today. There is a reason that society is in its downfall, and it's not going to get better, it's going to get much much worse. Alas, you will stubbornly clinch to the concept of "women can do no wrong", instead of maybe rethink it. But then again, I myself don't really have any problem with women. My main problem, and enemy are the jews - and in that regard, I would probably argue with Dave, instead of slandering him with some "tags" or "labels" in the mainstream media
>>153418764as opposed to "liberal" and "gay retard"? two can play this game, and I'm not a conservative. I'm just tired of the high horse that your kind considers themselves. You're also the reason there will never be a truce, but a constant flaming war. Are you a jew?
>>153417829That was a fantastic read. 10/10, would read again
>>153417839>Owning housepets is how women destroy your soul and collapse civilization, doncha know.>20 years forward>women and men don't want to procreate>instead they adopt pets and treat them like actual children>spam it on their social mediaWell? Who was wrong again?
>>153431524Coomer Pedo is a town in Australia
>>153416168Alright, what is this pic have anything to do with the OP post?
>>153432968Guys and Rick's Story are two of the Cerebus "phonebooks", so those are thumbnails for critical Youtube videos about Cerebus. OP seems to be implying that the guy who made those videos is fighing a war that's been over for decades.
>>153433538Feminism isn't over afaik
>>153431546I'd be fine with it if women actually held themselves up to that standard but anytime i try to treat a woman like an adult capable of solving her own issues i'm met with hostility and at one point violence(workplace altercation).Just figure it out. I actually think they're capable of doing better, they just prefer to slime through life with 0 effort.
>>153433847Shitting on Cerebus, which I think is what those videos are doing, is the new hotness of thirty years ago. It's pretty over. It's not like Cerebus attained sustained and widespread cultural relevance such that examining it is evergreen.But also, feminism as a distinct movement is pretty much over, it was eaten by idpol and especially tranny rights agitation.
>>153416273He has a 'DO NOT MISGENDER' rule on his discord. Im guessing because of Grant Morrison. or something lol. Im not surprised at all. Once you hear a youtuber use a few nu words or someone talking about mildly 'problematic' things it's just a matter of time before they go full politisperging.>>153416263Isn't SBP like 60 or older? He is fully light grey haired.
>>153434120>which I think is what those videos are doingHe doesnt at first, he praises the art and the story before that, and even then, when he shits on the story is to talk how it became a soapbox or newsletter about the author to talk about how awful his ex-wife is
>>153417839People unironically replace their lack of human children with dogs more than ever before due to low birth rates and think being anti pitbull is racist. It's men too though.
>>153418833I love you
>>153431510What truth? That you fell for culture war nonsense and gave power to grifting retards who are all funded by israel, which directly led to a jew-loving pedophile gaining power?
>>153434289That is because raising kids is more expensive; if you want people, white people at that, to have more kids, then housing, groceries, and such should be more affordable.
>>153434335More schizo than Dave award
>>153416263>younger generations hating the problematic shit the old guard ignoredSim's attitude toward women has been the crux of Cerebus discussion for decades longer than you have been alive. You're an underaged retard who shouldn't be here.
>>153434377I'm willing to bet 90% of 4chan are zoomers now
>>153434120>But also, feminism as a distinct movement is pretty much over, it was eaten by idpol and especially tranny rights agitation.Unlike tranny shit, feminism permeats every aspect of modern existence. Most people view it as normality and are blind to it as a result.Feminism is the final boss of all idpol.
>>153435524This desu. I'm not going to deviate more from OP's topic, but gynocentrism is so ingrained in Western society, you'd probably recoil, as did I, when looking at a culture which doesn't prioritize women.
>>153436647>gynocentrismyou ever read homer? no, not the simpson one. there was a massive war over a woman, who cucked both main characters anyway with a black bull
