is there a single "evil superman" varient than actually had a good reason for being evil?
Justice Lords
>>153430255Not really. I feel like Evil Supermen are created by writers simply because Superman is an easy archetypal hero to twist into a villain.
>>153430255apollo, at first it was trying to make stuff better but in the end hes the first one to say "this is getting out of hand" and usually gets killed in all alternate universes
>>153430255The OG, King Superman. He was separated from his Humanity and thus his morality.
>>153430255Idk but Brightburn was really retarded.
>>153430281I hardly consider them evil
>>153430328how? i thought the story was pretty solid, aside from him wanking to pictures of intestines.
>>153430328Nah, it was actually a really good film about how retarded patenting can lead to problem children.
>>153430343We know, Mr. President.
Have they done Superman grew up in an abusive trailer park family yet?
>>153430299How many writers do you think understand that Superman himself is a subversion of the expectations of powerful people.
>>153430255
>>153430347Except that wasn't the plot, he turned evil because the ship told him to
>>153430759I’m surprised there’s only one Storytime of this in desuarchive, and it’s basically unreadable because all of Incorruptible is 404’d
>>153430759People are going to keep posting this until I get around to debunking it.
>>153430534Not a lot, I would imagine.
>>153430255He just wants to do crime. It works because it's simple.
>>153430255The only thing I remember about this movie is the scene where they find out their kid is jerking off to surgical photos
>>153430343Like with Injustice Superman and most other attempts on that take they start off with an arguable point but devolve into full megalomania afterwards.
Plutonian
>>153431023They started off with vaporizing a guy.
>>153431065Killing a guy who's thwarted all other attempts to deal with him repeatedly who nearly caused a nuclear war is not bad in itself, the problem is they took it too far afterwards.
>>153430931Ultraman doesn't exactly 'have a point', but he's definitely a less evil evil Superman than other evil Supermans. He even tries to save the universe from the Anti-Monitor sometimes.His gang of dickheads did kill The Jester/Jokester though. Can't forgive that.
>>153430255Might is right.
>>153430931>>153431115IMO, the best version of him is Forever Evil where he's just a stereotypical bully. Weaker than Superman (needs more conditions to be powerful like fueling himself with Kryptonite and needing to be away from the sun), but still bosses his team around despite needing them (needed their help to cover up the sun, needed Deathstorm to learn how to create Kryptonite). It's a good inversion of Superman IMO
>>153431223Until what's right hasn't got the might.
This has to be my favorite alt-Superman, not evil just jaded but in the end still chooses to be heroic
>>153431274This universe was abandoned way too fast. Its fucking tragic.
>>153431274should've gotten a sequel desu, was interested in seeing some other characters though, i never really understood why Bekka was alt WW. alt Superman was related to Zod, alt Batman was Man-Bat, shouldn't alt WW have been linked to a WW villain?
Scion i guess he wasnt really a hero or a good person or whatever the fuck he was
>>153431298Wonder Woman was related to Old Gods. Here, she is a New God.
>>153430534Yeah, pretty much. If you make superman evil, then it's just the usual supervillain that heroes fight. It defeats the entire point.
>>153431465huh......that's actually a pretty good point. never really made that connection, but that's clever. thanks, smartanon
>>153430328>>153430346Not that anon but having the Clark Kent clone turn evil because aliens turned his killswitch on rather than him having a genuine fall into evil was dumb. It removes all the agency from the character because now he's just a little kid whose brain got messed up by others.
>>153430868who the fuck do you think you are
Communist Superman kinda had a point. Sort of. Besides the whole working for Stalin thing. He wasn't exactly an *evil* Superman. But you get it.
>>153430255>>153430299Pretty much>has super powers and can flyWhere's deconstructed batman other than the watchmen autist?Or any other hero with lesser powers than superman.Hell other writers onlydhoe how much a threat dvil duperman is to US like every evil superman writer is just rping as lex luthor writing fanfics.I remember in young justice at least, vandal using superman for a few hours to make superman a threat to everyone, everywhere
>>153430534Huh i guess that makes sense, the first guy spiegel and schuster named Superman was supposed to be an evil bald guy. But i thought Superman was more of an iteration of strong chivalric heroic guy like Hugo Hercules. Hugo Danner was ironically probably the first ""evil"" or more accurately "flawed" Superman deconstruction
>>153431115>>153431254Yeah he's probably my favorite evil Superman. I think his newest iteration is ironically both good and bad, he's essentially Homelander lite now (but i'm pretty sure he's dead so not really now) but his parents puttig the bully mindset into him made sense. Crisis UM was cool too, i liked how he was evil but still willing to try to stop actual insanity like the world ending because yknow.. he lives there.
>>153431065That guy was the Joker, who nuked a city after murdering Lois and Jimmie.
>>153432133>Where's deconstructed batman other than the watchmen autist?We have one. His name's Batman.
>>153431545this
>>153430759I forgot, what was his deal again? Like he was an abused child and his trauma caused him to snap when the pressure got too much, or something like that?
>>153430346>low effort cinema for low effort imbeciles FTW
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>>153430255Red Son Superman (literally did nothing wrong)>>153431274>jadedThat promo short they did with him and shota Brainiac gave me the impression he's tired and world-weary more than jaded. Never did see the movie, was I on the right track or not?
>>153433906>the first guy spiegel and schuster named Superman was supposed to be an evil bald guyDidn't they basically reuse that guy as the Ultra-Humanite?
>>153434492Hey, how did you get that picture of me???
>>153430255Omni-Man, although in the bigger picture he's not 'evil Superman' but 'Vegeta Superman'
>>153430255Johnny Bates definitely went too far (way, way too far) but if I had to choose between being an orphan getting raped by retarded Br*ts every day or transforming into an uncontrollable evil Superman, I'd choose evil as well.
>>153430255Hancock was pretty good as "Superman but a fucked up trainwreck (lmao) person" until the second half of the movie kicked in with all the stupid stuff with his ex/destined wife or whatever.The problem with a lot of Evil Superman types is that the most evil thing writers tend to come up with is to have their character be stupid evil. Serial killer child in a spooky mask. Giant manchild with an inferiority complex. Hitler with a cape. It's fucking boring and it has nothing to say. It's just shock value and nothing else.
>>153434481reread this the other day.basically tony's bounced around from foster home to foster home never really experiencing a stable background. the closest he got was with fake ma and pa kent, where pa kept hard reinforcing the responsibility angle of being a superhero. it eventually culminates in tony telling pa that ma will die from cancer. he never told him because it would "using his powers selfishly".basically set him up for failure and caused tony to have a constant need for validation and adoration.
>>153434634I'm reading this now, still in the early parts. Even though it's clunky, it's fucking great. There's a conviction to this now tired approach, and the art is great. The brief asides (The Yesterday Gambit, the Warpsmiths story, The Red King Syndrome) all spice it up even more. I'd love an entire run of Warpsmith stories.
>>153430255All of them desuNow reply to me with "Trvth nvke" reaction images
>>153430513Not quite but they've done Mexican migrant Superman and he was kino
>>153434559Yeah, he's a bit of both. He's actually Zod's and Lara-El's son from the birthing matrix after he forced his way in and killed Jor-El and grew up with a Mexican migrant family. He's basically on the verge of going down an authoritarian might makes right path but his good instincts prevail.
>>153436619It's regarded as Moore kino for a reason and only gets better as it goes on, I particularly like the ending. The sequel series aren't really worth bothering with especially after now they're back in indefinite hiatus thanks to Gayman's career taking a nosedive.
Anyone remember that short "The Flying Man"? I've always found that idea interesting. A story about a mysterious "evil" superman from the perspective of the civilians.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1MqHgFnmE
>>153431271Might is right, again.
>>153434634Putting him in the orphanage was probably a mistake.
>>153436851super hombreme corazon
The Golden guy from worm
>>153430346wtf. That really happened?
>>153434481>>153434805I'm not a fan of the Plutonian's backstory, I think the stuff the comic shows from his time as a hero would be enough to break him even if they didn't add a tragic childhood on top of that.
>>153434781>Giant manchild with an inferiority complex.(The show's) Homelander is a five star man, the king of the minions, and a golden god.
>>153432133>Where's deconstructed batman other than the watchmen autist?Owlman
>>153430255My Super ex girlfriend. Although she’s more Supergirl, but then again, as far as I remember, there is no G-Man.
>>153434490i knew it was gonna be capeshit "slop" and i wasnt let down. why is that a bad thing?
>>153438369his parents find his porn stash and its just human viscera and disembowelled animals
Brightburn was okay, but I started reading The Boys around that time. So evil Superman was kind of boring to me.
>>153431274>>153436851This guy would legit go "Soi Goku wey"
