Why is James Gunn/DC so obsessed with having a DCU?>Gunn explained why the movie has fallen by the wayside: “The script wasn't quite there but more importantly it didn't work in terms of the larger DCU both in terms of the story and practical concerns. Maybe some day. Not soon.”Don’t their movies+shows work better self-contained?
They should just make Batman and Superman movies and have other characters pop up occasionally as supporting characters. None of these nobody characters can support their own films. Not even Wonder Woman would do well at this point.
>>153436027Get a life you turbovirgin.
>>153436027>Why is James Gunn/DC so obsessed with having a DCU?For the same reason everybody was trying to have a cinematic universe not long ago: it's very appealing to executives. Rather than making movies that have to succeed or fail on their own terms, a corporation just has to reach into a big bag of properties, pull out a name, and get something guaranteed to be a success. It might be a pipe dream, but it promises too many zeroes to walk away from.
>>153436178Eat your mother's shit, faggot.
you cannot understand The Authority without Stormwatch and Jenny Sparks.
>>153436075>>153436327 It's a mixed bag because I agree that characters like Superman and Batman (and I'll give Wonder Woman a shot) are the only ones with the juice to carry multiple big screen blockbuster movies and all the other heroes really probably work best as supporting characters that pop in and out...But then there's really a chance for C listers or supporting characters to have fun side projects.The rumor that kept floating around was Gunn wanted to make Rogues-centric project. Not a Flash project -- a Rogues crime caper with The Flash as "the antagonist" That's interesting to me. We've seen enough generic capeshit of characters learning about their powers, making ironic quips and stopping the big bad. It's time to mix it up with different genres and types of B movies that just so happen to feature superheroes in supporting roles. Like I don't hate the idea of Clayface... a horror movie starring a Batman villain is a pretty easy idea.The future of capeshit movies is going to be like the last couple of decades of capeshit comics: the best stuff is all the side books featuring C listers that don't have to carry the weight of the "shared universe" and are basically some other genre book disguised as a Big 2 book.
>>153436178You are literally on 4chan
>>153436027Gunn is like Waititi. A one trick pony, each new film they make only reenforces that.
>>153436327The problem is that only Marvel really pulled it off successfully, where a dependably large audience would show up for 'the new Marvel movie' even if it was some Literally Who? character they'd never heard of, because the brand as a whole was a success and people knew they were going to have a good time.Everything else either failed right out of the gate, like the Dark Universe, or is in situation like DC or the Monsterverse, where they have some dependable characters, but audiences aren't going to show up for literally anything just because of that shared universe branding. With even Marvel having fumbled repeatedly and audiences starting to just show up for the characters they already know they like, maybe it's just time to go back to more standalone superhero movies and less shared universe movies and less cameos.
>>153440131MARVEL already sorta spoiled the illusion of how these "cinematic universes" actually work.Everything so directly ties back into the Avengers movies that you're ultimately watching a singular series rather than multiple interconnected ones.There was never a "crossover" because it was all the same series with pretty uniform approach to tone, character, et cetera.
>>153440131But the fact remains that it was pulled off successfully. It's like any gimmick or scheme: somebody made a lot of money doing thing, therefore I can make a lot of money by doing thing. Suits don't stop and ask why it worked for the guy in the first place, they just assume it's something their people can copy successfully.
>>153440228I think you've kind of got it the wrong way around. Most of the time there isn't really as much of a coherent singular narrative as people think, but then they do an Avengers movie and manage to create the illusion that everything's been leading up to this and it's all one story, even though it wasn't really.Other cinematic universes have tried to run before they could walk, and just leap into doing the team-ups, cameos, set-ups for future movie, and crossover stories before they've built up a solid foundation of movies and characters the audience liked and wants to see more of. Gunn's Superman not being content to just be a Superman movie and having a number of other DC heroes in it, and without really explaining anything about them to normies, they're going right back in to a heavily connected shared universe even before there was any other material than just that one movie.
>>153440131>The problem is that only Marvel really pulled it off successfullyYes and they didn't do anything special. Like two of their movies were arguably good and everything else in MCU, every single thing, was mid at best. That is why DC keeps trying. Because Marvel were not geniuses, they got lucky and made billion after billion.
>>153437918>bringing your own fetishesgood morning saar, underage sperg.
