Was it the right decision to make Po technically kill him at the end?
>>153441154I haven't seen any of these movies. Explain what happens.
>>153441154It was weird how he did and barely anybody cared. Tai Lung was evaporated off screen in a poof. Usually villain deaths are more impactful. It felt like there were scenes of him unconscious and taken back to jail but those were cut and he's just dead and disappeared.
>>153441171Watch the movie.
>The Wuxi Finger Hold! Not the Wuxi Finger Hold!>Oh, you know this hold?>Developed by Master Wuxi in the third dynasty. Yes!>Oh, then you must know what happens when I flex my pinky...>No, no, no!>You know the hardest part of this? The hardest part... is cleaning up afterwards>Okay! Okay, take it easy!They could've explained that finger thing better
>>153441154yes
>>153441211NoTell me
Why not give him a death sentence instead of keeping him trapped like that?
>>153441154If he didn't, then wouldn't Tai Lung just escape prison again? I know he knows the scroll is meaningless, but he could still be out for revenge anyway. He didn't actually give up in this scene. He was scared, but he was still trying to fight.
>KFP>Monsters vs Aliens>KFP2>KFP3>Trolls>Trolls World Tour>KFP4DreamWorks movies which have the writing duo Jonathan Aibel/Glenn Berger, whose only notable credit before KFP was being writers on King of the Hill
Jack Black did his gaming debut in the gap between KFP and KFP2
>>153441283First time I watched the movie, I honestly thought the finger hold thing was a joke. Like, it's not real, people just get knocked out by the power of suggestion because they think it's real. Kind of tying in to the themes of KFP1. I figured Po just sent Tai Lung back to jail since the movie doesn't really dwell on it. Then KFP3 has Po use it on himself to go to the spirit world, which is weird as fuck by itself, and only then does it hit me that Po really did just fucking execute Tai Lung.
>The Cat in the Hat during the gap between Shrek and Shrek 2>Year One and Gulliver's Travels during the gap between KFP and KFP2Not very smart of Mike Myers and Jack Black, but I guess a paycheck is a paycheck
>>153441838Cat in the Hat damaged Mike Myers' reputation in 2003
>>153441206>>153441825You never actually see the confirmed body count Tai Lung racks up escaping prison. For all we know, he killed them all except for the messenger. He definitely whacked the rhino with the gold horn. Death was probably the only punishment he deserved.
>>153441206Usually in kids movies the villain is killed in some kind of self-inflicted accident so the hero has clean hands. Interesting how they didn't do that here.
>>153442154I don't disagree, it's just weird how stone cold Po is about it, especially when in KFP2 he actually tries to reason with Shen in the end.
>>153441371You seem to not understand the Chinese obsession with excessive cruelty.
>>153442059Dumb bastard didn't have to take that role. Some movies should never have been made, but Horton Hears A Who and The Grinch had these fools thinking Dr Suess = low-effort money. So much so that they're trying TCITH again. The only decent thing about the first one was...whichever of the Things was female. I think 1.
>>153441825It was a pretty stupid and cheap idea for a move, "Grab their finger, flex your pinky, and you win!">>153442302The Tai Lung death stuff also stupid cause the writers didn't even have the one justification you could possibly use to kill him at the end in the original cut of the movie, which was that nonsensical village attack he committed for no reason, until test audiences were sympathizing with him too much.He's a good character but the part of a villain that actually makes you agree with killing him at the end is missing. That village attack scene never did it for me because his only stated goal was ever getting that scroll, so why leave the temple to attack the village, then go back up and try to steal the scroll?At least with Shen he's an unrepentant psychopath.It's just not a very well written series.
>>153441154>Was it the right decision to make Po technically kill him at the end?Yes, because you don't have to keep every character alive and going in a franchise for ever and ever and ever. Plus it's very funny to have the protagonist of a kids' film straight up kill the villain.
>>153441825Why would you think the wuxi finger hold isnt real? Po, Shifu and Tai Lung acknowledge it, and theres a big ass explosion when Po does it.>people just get knocked out by the power of suggestion because they think it's real. Kind of tying in to the themes of KFP1That's about how the only thing thats required to make something special is your belief on it, not some illusory trick or suggestion.>the movie doesn't really dwell on it.It's pretty easy to assume that after that big ass explosion Tai Lung is no more.>Po use it on himself to go to the spirit worldIt was a weird retcon on how death and the wuxi hold works, yes. But still, you have severe interpretation issues if it took you that long to realise Tai Lung was dead.
>>153443166>the only thing thats required to make something special is your belief on it, not some illusory trick or suggestion.Well the thing with the soup was just suggestion. Po's dad's special soup didn't taste any different, he just tricked his customers into thinking it did.
>>153441154It was to create a hidden villain type or a vegeta type straightman too po's oft unfunny shenanigans.
>>153443251His soup tasting better because he thinks its a great soup is far and away different from making a fake attack work. Po and Tai Lung also believe the scroll to be special initially and yet it doesnt do anything. It's an inner belief thing, not something that unlocks a new martial art.
>>153443166NTA but by 'not real' he probably meant he thought that the move was just some story spread to scare people and didn't actually do anything until Po actually used it.
>>153443369And the moral of the storu is dont try, dont help your child achieve excellence. Be a hedonistic slob and be happy with that and greatness will be awarded too you.After all divine rule of the chosen is absolute.I hated that movie so goddamned much.
>>153443369Better question on that "no secret ingredient" bullshit with the scroll is why the hell Oogway never made sure Shifu knew that before letting him train anybody else.
>>153441283>Po turned Tai Lung into a stainBrutal.
>>153443409The true moral is believe in youself, apply effort to your goals and dont base your existance and selfworth on some bullshit made up by an old turtle. Oh, and dont let your father figure hype you up too much
>>153443421Because the movie needed a plot twist. But really, it's because whoever got it was supposed to figure out the meaning of the scroll being empty by themselves, which would be... cute, if Shifu didn't make it Tai Lung's life mission.
>>153443421I don't think Oogway ever really meant for anyone to see the scroll.Anyone who could understand its point wouldn't want to see it in the first place. The dragon warrior would be happy with his own hard-work and self-made accomplishments, not look for power or validation elsewhere.
>>153443633But PO litterally did all of that. And Tai Lung believed in himself while po worshipped others and did nothing to better himself The moral is exactly what was shown. Not dumb bullshit they add to the end.
>>153443683It's clearly meant for the dragon warrior. With future context from KFP 3, it's specifically made to give Po a boost of confidence. In isolation, i dont know, a charming little message maybe?
>>153443702>po worshipped others and did nothing to better himselfPo keeps trying to learn kung fu despite knowing Shifu and the others do not want him in the Jade palace and that he himself is a fat and clumsy. He does learn absurdly fast once Shifu discovers how to motivate him but he did actively seek improvement. He didnt initially have much faith on his own person but learned to believe in himself after that little talk wth his dad.Tai Lung does put effort on his goals and believes in himself... but he is also a really evil guy who kills whoever is in the way of what he wants. His frustration is understandable but he is NOT the victim here.
>>153443717>With future context from KFP 3I'd rather not think about it. KFP3 fucks up 1 so hard it may as well have retconed it.Like Oogway knowing the whole time the dragon warrior would be a panda.
>>153441300he kills the guy by just lifting his finger and it causes an explosion of light that vaporizes the bad guy (it's a china thing you wouldnt understand it)
>>153443777Would he have tried in the first place if he believed in himself and wasnt "the chosen one" or pushed by shift?Just like Tai Lung?The message would m work if he sought out shifu to learn in the furst place and the destiny bullshit was removed.Even have shifu be completely against teaching him, not because he is a clumsy oaf, but because he fears failing another student.
>>153443857How much did Oogway knew anyway? He knew it was Po once he saw him, but before that i dont think he had much knowledge of who it could be, unless something was said in KFP3 that im forgetting
>>153441154No, the nick series has an episode where tai lung's nephew come for revenge and it awkwardly dances around how Po committing murder was unnecessary
>>153443871Po doesn't believe himself he's the chosen one, but he wants to believe that Shifu can turn him into the dragon warrior, it atleast something better than a big fat panda.Tai Lung was a genius who at some point wanted power at all costs, even though his relationship with Shifu gives him somewhat if an excuse. Po would be glad to be accepted by the Jade palace in any circunstance. Him being the dragon warrior is just a really wacky situation, and an excuse for Shifu to be unable to outright forbid him to be there.>have shifu be completely against teaching him, not because he is a clumsy oaf, but because he fears failing another student.That would make it a completely different movie. Not only would you need to remove the furious five, but the message about believing in yourself doesnt work if Shifu's views ae changed, as Po's whole deal in 1 is that no one believes a panda could be the dragon warrior.
>>153443899Po is awkward with Tai Lung's nephew due to that but there's no discussion in the show on whether killing him was necessary. Even Peng(the nephew) doesnt question it once he learns of how evil Tai Lung had become, although it does give him a bit of a conflicted view on kung fu.
>>153443992So its race exceptionalism in season 3 combined with retarded chosen one thing that muddies the waters along with him being a lazy cunt who ONLY tries because hes the chosen one makes this morally fucking retarded.
>>153444022I think he gave up kung fu, considering it to be evil. Dumb kid. Kung fu is neither good not evil. His uncle was just gassed up from Shifu blowing smoke up his ass.
>>153443369> His soup tasting better because he thinks its a great soup is far and away different from making a fake attack workNot under Baki logic.If you are strong enough your imagination can bend reality as a whole
>>153445586Peng gives up Kung Fu after going on a rampage due to some evil artifact, but he picks it up again later and starts a kung fu school for the common people.
>>153444904I think you're trying way to hard to hate the plot, anon.
>>153441371>>153442383Bias of teacher perhaps, but also that's plenty of prisons. Why get rid of him when you can have him live out a miserable life for his crimes.
>>153442302>>153442435In a way he tries to reason with Tai Lung too. He finally gets the scroll, learns the significance of it, Po attempts an understanding with him through it, but he still insists on antagonism.
>>153441154Kung Fu Panda 4 did Tai Lung so dirty. Really sad to see how this franchise has been mishandled...
>>153441154Wouldn't you have kill him at the end, dough?
>>153441154I think it was the wrong decision to leave the Wushu Finger Hold as a joke. This is an OP move, and the fact Po could just do it to anyone.......
>>153448203>Kung Fu Panda 4 did Tai Lung so dirty.Unhinged. Him having a major cameo was one of the highlights.
>>153441825>Then KFP3 has Po use it on himself to go to the spirit worldKFP3 isn't canon end of story
>>153442410I think it was a contract thing.
>>153449189>Mike Myers and director Bo Welch were legally forced to work on this film after Universal sued Myers over a proposed Sprockets film adaptation, leading to a counter-suit from Myers. Part of the legal settlement to resolve all the lawsuits was that they must to work on a different film for Universal in its place.
>>153446829Good to hear. They really should've worked more on his model. He looked like a fucking gremlin, when he should have looked adorable, being a young cat and all.
>Antz: 90 million>Shrek: 268 million>Shrek 2: 441 million>Shark Tale: 160 million>Madagascar: 193 million>Over the Hedge: 155 million>Flushed Away: 64 million>Shrek the Third: 322 million>Bee Movie: 126 million>Kung Fu Panda: 215 millionDomestic box office results. KFP was a huge hit for the company in 2008
>>153450329Child models really weren't the show's strength, as they're all just somewhat modified miniature versions of an adult counterpart, which is most apparent when they show Tai Lung and Peng on the same shot.
>KFP1 grossed 18 million in China, whereas KFP2/KFP3 grossed 92 million and 154 million respectivelyIt's embarrassing how more profitable those inferior sequels were in China
Go away Sharkfag
>>153441296Sauce?
It's bizarre that Po killed him but spared the dude that genocided his family and village
Shen would've been a better villain if he had a similar personality to the Antz villain
Didn't Tai Lung murder, like, 100 people during his escape though? Or were they fine for no reason?
If you consider just how psychopathic the average Chinese Kung Fu protagonist is then it's surprising that Po stopped at just killing Tai Lung, and didn't go after all his family and friends. Chinese fiction is grisly.
Shen was nothing new for Gary Oldman. He voiced the bad guy in Planet 51 not that long before
DeviantArt is so fucking retarded
Kung Fu Panda 2 is insipid and boring slop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSBfcpqICvY
>>153441283I mean, leaves it open to eventually reveal it just teleports your living body to the afterlife where you get captured by Kai.
>>153455576Who's the dragon?
>>153441283>Third DynastyThat means the Wuxi Finger Hold was created somewhere between 3,072 to 2,282 years ago given how long the Third Dynasty lasted
>>153448203Its funny how despite its inconsistenties and bizzare moments, the KFP Legends of Awsomeness show did better to build up the characters and universe of KFP post KFP 2 than 3, 4 and whatever other future content was created.
>>153441825there was a huge explosion;...~
>>153450908>Flushed Awayshit i remember watching this movie and i have vague memories of iti think its about finding gemstones, and theres drama about how they were faked? a bunch of small animals in the sewers. is that movie good?
>>153457858chicken is a bird bruh
>>153441296Post the Tigress x Human fanfiction now, please.
>>153460104Which one? There is like multiple.
>>153460042No point in trying to make sense of bluecheckmark bait posts
>>153448514I mean, KFP 2 answered perfectly how to deal with it by having Shen never winning a direct confrontation with Po or any other kung fu master without relying on a cheap trick.And even than the technique can be restrained to be used only against powerful and unredeamable monsters
>>153441206I simply believe it was a deus ex machina that Po defeated Tai Lung, I mean, out of nowhere he gains immunity to harm.I hate stories based in China, there's always a damn deus ex machina, there's always a "he won because the universe favors him"
>>153461125true lol this bullshit payout system made xitter unusable
>>153441283I might misremember but in French he even explicitly mentions that what’s left to clean up is blood. So I thought that they retcon the whole thing in the third movie
>>153441296Sex
>>153441296Maybe it's because this isn't especially explicit but I don't find this hot at all lol she looks too smooth. You'd just as well pose a stuffed animal.
