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Spidey fans have complained for almost 20 years. Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?
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>>153444636
When it leads to an unpopular decision getting reversed. Funny enough that happened with OMD in the Stan Lee newspaper comics so Peter and MJ stayed married in that.
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>>153444636
not spider-man fans though, only marywhorefags.
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No, but we don't actually want things to change for the better, we just want to complain for complaining's sake. We want to make noise so people will pay attention to us.
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>>153444693
Fucking kill yourself you worthless cum stain. What is you fucking problem?
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>>153444636
They brought back Hal Jordan. I guess that's better than just leaving him as an evil guy
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>>153444697
I want enjoy the comics I read. I dont want to be upset and complain.
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>>153444636
They brought old coke back?
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>>153444708
He's a pedophile.
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>>153444722
I love complaining. My life revolves around complaining. If I didn't have anything to complain about, I would complain about having nothing to complain about. I wish I could force the entire world to listen to my complaining forever.
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>>153444636
Wally West being brought back, I guess.
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>>153444756
Ok, I kekled
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>>153444636
Not really anon.
That's the marywhoreshitters alone.
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>>153444636
You're about to see fan apathy unleashed to it's fullest extent when 1000 drops, disappoints and every speculator keeping this zombie book alive, leave, and kill it, as well as the livelihood of that milksop Lowe who got dunked on by Cooke.
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>>153444636
Look at how comics sell like dogshit now and tell me
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>>153444636
Spider-Bitch peaked here
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>ctrl + f He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named
>0 results
There's something even though he shouldn't have existed to begin with.
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>>153444636
Well considering their attempts at ignoring fan complaints are now leading to their over-reliance on incentive variants, constant relaunches, ten-issue minimum dropped down to five-issue minimum, the X-Men and Venom fanbases agreeing with the Spider-Man fanbase that every Quesada-era editor needs to leave, and Slott having to beg people to buy his upcoming mini, yeah I'd say they probably would've been better off listening to fan complaints.
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>>153444636
If you’re still complains about anything 20 years later, it’s not being a fan it’s having severe autism.
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>>153446849
Well I guess that would apply to the people at Marvel who want to enforce OMD because they were complaining about the marriage for 20 years
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>>153444636
no since fans are still stockholm syndrome faggots. if they acutally manned up and boycotted stuff things would change quickly
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>>153446849
They're imbeciles that's why.
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>>153446895
This is pure nonsense. Editorial got what it wanted and moved on. Losers meanwhile keep crying to this day about it and it’s just sadder by the day
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>>153447182
>Editorial got what it wanted and moved on
Elaborate.
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>>153447182
>Editorial got what it wanted and moved on
Guess what, if you give the fans what they want they wil stop complaining
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>>153447264
Spidergirl and West Westin?
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>>153448419
No they fucking don’t. They just find new things to complain about
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>>153446649
IT'S PA-PA-PA-PAULIN TIME!!!
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>>153447182
It will be a thorn in the side of Marvel for Eons to come. Thier greatest mistake.
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>>153448504
The complaining is the point.
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>>153448668
Why do you have the same image with different names
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>>153448701
why are you complaining?
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>>153448701
Because this is the perfect unapologetic expression. Just imagine trying to reason with someone and they just keep making this face at you. Wouldn't it drive you up the wall?
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its still crap because it was a bad retcon.

They just were like PETE IS SINGLE, MOVE ON EVEN IF IT MAKES NO SENSE... after most of us grew up with a married Spidey
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>>153448848
Peter and MJ's rushed engagement/marriage was equally jarring.
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>another marywhore whining and seething thread
and water is wet
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>>153446849
>>153447182
>>153431403
>>153431398
>>153431592
I get the feeling that either Dan Slott or someone from Marvel editorial is posting on /co/ threads
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>>153449422
They certainly aren't spending their time making good comics
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>>153444636
Are they trying to make MJ a super hero to give zendaya a vehicle? why is it so important to make MJ a Super
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>>153449220
Do you honestly believe the Marriage was worse for the character than the Brand New Day era? Many of the stories would work better if they were married and not having an easy out by dating other people. All of the recent developments prove that Peter and the Books would be better off if the wells run never happened. And yes the entire brand would be better if OMD never happened.
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It almost got undone a few years ago with Spencer's run having Spidey reveal himself to a ton of people and buy an engagement ring for MJ but that got nixxed by Editorial.
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>>153449422
It definitely is. Same kind of gaslighting method they all do. The "Get Over It Argument" is one of the most disengenous.

>>153449433
Bingo. The best the can do now is to go on forums and social media with sockpuppet accounts, viciously attack anyone critical of the direction of the books, and hope Disney doesn't find out while trying to make the books look like they're selling with a lot of incentive variants and all-new #1s
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>>153450013
It was never getting undone. Spencer had lunch with Quesada to beg to get it undone and he told him it was something the Execs wanted because it allowed for more story potential and writer freedom. Meaning perfect fodder for the slop machine MCU pitch stories they've been doing for over a decade.
Spencer, feeling like he knew better as always, went ahead with his own thing and got us stuck with Wells' bullshit.
And guess what, it's MCU fodder.
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>>153450578
>Spencer had lunch with Quesada to beg to get it undone and he told him it was something the Execs wanted because it allowed for more story potential and writer freedom.
Source please
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>>153450578
>because it allowed for more story potential and writer freedom.
It sure doesn't show, that's for sure!
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>>153444636
>Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?

Yeah, when they double ultra mega fixed Wally West
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>>153451592
lol someone send this to dan slott
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>>153450121
Imagine being such a whiny bitch you’re still crying about a comic that was published 19 years ago because you can’t move on with your life. This is why nobody wants to read comics, nobody wants to he associated with this type of behaviour. Even Naruto fanboys aren’t as cringe
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>>153452219
>marvel intern, lowe or a pollack pedo
you decide.
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>>153449108
it really wasnt, dragging out the Black Cat shit was tiresome.
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>>153444636
>Spidey fans have complained for almost 20 years.
You think things are bad now you have another 20 years of fans complaining coming straight up. Your suffering has only begun spider-man fans have a nice day now.
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>>153452414
I take you are dying for another storytime of OMD yes? keep it up and you will get your wish.
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And in other news the smurfette thread is flourishing unlike this sorry and pathetic thread. smurfette fans win again.

https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/153424478/
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Beyond the marriage the real problem is the sliding timescale & lack of stakes in the soap opera writing asm wants to pursue. Combine that with wanting to generate a million other spider themed characters and you get a general apathy towards asm. Just look at how little anyone cares about the recent peters long lost cousin reveal.
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>>153452443
Peter and Felicia were living together and she was even sewing him new costumes one month and then she was gone and he was engaged to Mary Jane the next. It was forced and rushed because Shooter wanted to have them married in the comics before it happened in the comic strip.
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>>153452219
>Imagine being such a whiny bitch you’re still crying about a comic that was published 19 years ago because you can’t move on with your life.

I can. It's called imagine being a Marvel employee telling fans to get over a 19 year old story to bootlick other Marvel employees who couldn't get over a 20 year old story.

>This is why nobody wants to read comics, nobody wants to he associated with this type of behaviour. Even Naruto fanboys aren’t as cringe

LMAAAAAAAAAOOOOO
A sadsack Marvel employee blaming OMD-hating fans for creating a toxic environment that forced other people to get into manga
Look in the mirror, you're the real problem
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Yeah, the Sonic movie.
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>>153449861
Modern writers hate it when supporting characters don't have powers.
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>>153452414
You are pathetic.
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>>153452701
Like usual, Shooter was right.
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>>153444710
I still don't like that. What Hal needed was for Emerald Twilight to get a remake. Do it properly as an extended limited series instead of squeezing it into so damn few issues.
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>>153444636
I stopped reading from brand new day on, and haven't read an issue since. Don't care. People whine about Paul and I have no fucking idea who he is, and continue to not give a shit.
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>>153444636
https://aiptcomics.com/2026/04/29/venom-unleashed-21/

These people are retarded. they are going to move forward with Raelith so MJ can move forward with Flash. Looks like Gomez drawing that page was a humiliation ritual
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OMD wankers are honestly so obnoxious that I actively cheer Peter and MJ not getting back together again
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>>153453494
Ain't raelith getting shot back into space for like more shay shit or are they just gonna ignore her.
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>>153444636
>>153450013
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>>153451508
It's from one of the interviews. I think this one.
Joe gives his blessing to get them back together but the manifesto dictates that Peter's relationships all fall apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fTRzFOG02c
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>>153453600
>>153449861
>>153444921
Cry me a river why don't you spider fags honestly give it a rest
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>>153453571
You are more insufferable. You care about nothing but the pain of others.
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Fan outrage only works if their the biggest conusmers of the product, if their out numbered by retards who just want more of Brand in any shape and size as long as there is more Brand then the fans always lose.
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>>153444753
>>153444740
>>153444708
ENOUGH GIVE IT A REST
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>>153453703
Sweetie, I don’t even remember you in two minutes
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>>153449930
She was never the one for Peter so that part is fine. But people like you eternally whining are what actually sours the random and partly the comics.
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>>153446823
This is what I don't get about Marvel editorial. They're so fucking stupid that they want to keep Peter's life in melodramatic bullshit for relatability so people will buy comics, but people aren't buying comics because other media exists for those familiar story beats and fans are already too intimidated to get into the main line. What's there to lose in just letting the status quo move on a bit?
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>>153453703
You ain't a person though.
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>>153453889
She is though, faggot. Stan Lee made them canon.
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>>153453889
I like how this just circles back to its the fans fault spiderman comics aren't liked , not accounting that most of it is just ip farming slop nowadays.
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>>153453923
And yet she was never the one that's why it doesn't work. Keep SEETHING because that's not gonna change and time keeps moving forward.
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>>153453905
Ip farmer bruh we can't let status quo or the character move forward so retcon new characters that are from peters past into the story. Ie spiderboy silk Brian the cousin.
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>>153453571
>>153453599
>>153453670
>>153453733
This faggot is a contrarian with no personality.
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>>153453945
>and time keeps moving forward.
Tell that to Marvel's story editors
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marycuntfags reap what they sow
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>>153448617
Who? I'm talking about Mephisto. Not beating the Mephisto lapdog allegations here.
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>>153453995
fuck off spider fags everyone has enough of your shit. we on't wanna hear no more.
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>>153444636
It’s crazy how Peter’s life is basically exactly where it was when Brand New Day began. The past 20 years can be summed up as purgatory, which is pretty apt seeing as he made a deal with the devil.
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>>153455258
>The past 20 years can be summed up as purgatory, which is pretty apt seeing as he made a deal with the devil
This has been retconned and Peter Parker has been OOC.
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>>153445000
I am not so sure, one dude brought 666s issues of Spider-Man's 666
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>>153455343
Are you sure? Because even though this comic panel is a few years old, it still pretty much describes Peter’s current situation.
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>>153447182

>NWH was an adaptation of OMIT and OMD-lite
>New MCU Slop with Iron Boy Jr. is literally titled "Brand New Day"
>Dan Slott the hack who spent like a decade writing shitty arcs like "Superior Spider-Man" that required everyone being retarded and OoC like Emma Frost actually uncharacteristically respecting mental privacy with her telepathy and having Otto jerkin' it to Peter and MJ being intimate in the past, raping MJ and Anna Maria by deception and Peter uncharacteristically trying to sabotage Otto performing a life-saving surgery on a little girl so she would die, created his own Asian fetish rapedoll waifu with Silk and the Spider-Rape Pheromones retcon, turned Black Cat into a vengeful retard even AFTER the retarded "Superior" Spider-Man was done away with still hated Spidy and wanted to be Queenpin despite this info until Spencer cleaned up his mess (which went against his professed "the toys go back in the box" supposed writing philosophy" is now ALSO writing a Brand New Day era tie-in.
>Brevoort, Lowe and Cebulski were all so assblasted about Spencer even TRYING to undo OMD that they punished fans with Zeb Wells/Dead Language/Paul Rabin/Jackpot/All-New Venom/Eddie Brock: Carnage/Death Spiral in their 4+ year long tantrum
>Prematurely ended Nu-Ultimate (6160) because it's consistent 2 year+ sales outselling ASM at least 2x over in said period was exposing them as out of touch and incompetent.

Sure, anon they TOTALLY just let it go and moved on (despite BND villains like the hated Screwball and sole breakout villain from that era Mister Negative were put in the Insomniacverse).
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>>153447151
They did, Spider-Man's sales are a shadow of its former self.
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>>153455473
>post Norman Osborn panel
OOC.
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>>153455585
Oh, I didn’t realize that Norman Osborn had a friendship with Deadpool. Must have missed those issues.
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>>153449422
>Slott
He probably comes here once in a while. He loves going to CBR forums to defend Marvel editorial.
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>>153455616
Deadpool is OOC Mephistofag.
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>>153453748
You will never be a real woman.
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>>153453889
I don't even care about that anymore.

I just want Tom Brevoort to drown in his own blood after the shit he said about AI and creatives deserving to be replaced.
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>>153453992
Bailey is literally how Mr. Poopybutthole was introduced in Rick and Morty that's how much of an unimaginative hack Slott is.
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>>153454297
Yet, Brevoort, Lowe and Cebuslki are weirdly too much of pussies to kill her off once and for all for some reason which I don't get.

Like, shit or get off the pot, right?
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>>153455701
Not only does he go there but sometimes he even posts under an alt account
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>>153455705
>Deny me as much as you want. Until Spider-Man truly faces me and his sins, he will never be free
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>>153455970
Alternate universe versions of Peter Parker have been dead where Miles Morales been a Spider-Man in those universes. Go bother that nigger.
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>>153455925
>Not only does he go there but sometimes he even posts under an alt account
Kek really? I do remember anons pointing out he has separated accounts to edit his ASM run from wikipedia, and another account for his Doctor Who run. I shouldn't be surprised...
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>>153444921
Paul is dead, you polish retard. It’s all your fault.
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All the plotholes and blantant asspulls in OMD doesn't get brought up enough frankly
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>>153456022
>Don’t forget about poor Otto and Ben Reilly. With Norman’s soul as well, all I need is one more Spider-Man and I’ll have my very own Spider-Man Sinister Six.
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>>153456149
Yeah, some years back someone figured out an account on CBR suspiciously seemed like Slott's, and things kind of start to make sense when you look at the posting history/time (ie the account started when Slott cut down his posting significantly). The CBR mods flipped out and banned everyone who brought it up, which brings to mind how certain mods at CBR allow Marvel people to get away with abuses other posters would've been banned for
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>>153456418
>Yeah, some years back someone figured out an account on CBR suspiciously seemed like Slott's, and things kind of start to make sense when you look at the posting history/time (ie the account started when Slott cut down his posting significantly).
Do you remember what account it was?

>The CBR mods flipped out and banned everyone who brought it up, which brings to mind how certain mods at CBR allow Marvel people to get away with abuses other posters would've been banned for
CBR mods are bootlickers, and it's enforced to be that way too. I remember years ago a moderator said he doesn't expect much of Slott's writing, and Slott got pissed and started demanding moderators shouldn't have an opinion. It was so ridiculous even the website's founder went against Slott, but that's the only time moderators didn't take a creator's side because otherwise they'll send warnings or ban you if you sound even mildly insulting towards creators.
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>>153456418
>Yeah, some years back someone figured out an account on CBR suspiciously seemed like Slott's
Several accounts seem like his like PCN224 and that one other I can't remember.
Same posting style and always crops up after he runs away.
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>>153456390
Considering that you basically disagreed with me on characters being OOC, why didn't you count that Deadpool who wore Spider-Man suit made a deal with you? Make up your mind, fraud.
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>>153456612
I think the account was Lee or something like that
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>>153444636
>Literally right after selling his marriage he's already got the "Aww shucks I'm such an arrested development dork, Parker Luck amirite?" look
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Friendly reminder that OMD happened becuase those editors/writers complained for 20 years about the marriage existing, if they can, so can we.
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>>153456953
Okay, dropping the bit for a second. I want Spider-Man to actually confront Mephisto so he can finally move forward. Because any true superhero needs to confront his mistakes and correct them.
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>>153444636
Keeps going strong. The fan outrage and the comic is still selling badly. Lowe wil have to leave eventually.
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>>153456418
Slott really has almost garnered the most infamous writer title
>Most of the spiderman community a large majority just hate him for sitting way too long on asm
>X-Men fans hate what he did to Franklin
>He's pretty much had to ebeg online to get his brand synergy book past 5 issues
It really feels more or less his writing career will end more infamous than celebrated.
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>>153444710
>>153444763
>>153451592
I wonder how much those we're made due to fan outrage or just because the new higher ups at DC wanted to undo previous shit
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>>153458045
It's always the latter. Fan outrage means nothing. Sales matter too, but it's not like Green Lantern or Flash were ever selling cancellation numbers.
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>>153455846
Why kill her off when you could have her cuckold peter. She can fuck his hs bully aswell. I want to rape agent venom now. I want to take all the rage paul had a rape agent venoms dragon.
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>>153453905
>People want to read comics to see a guy who is married!

Nobody picks up a comic for this reason
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>>153454010
They are doing that all the time where as you whine and bitch and demand your favourite status quo from decades ago to be restored
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>>153455564
>Anon writes a wall of text seething that OMD has not been retconned and instead the book has consistently been doing new things

LMAO
O
LMAO
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>>153452701
I dont think felicia was like in a loving romance with him at the time it was some kinda plot or something with her working for a villain. So kinda makes sense, tho it is weird for MJ to be jealous of the setup then suddenly theyre engaged.
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>>153448449
>Spidergirl and West Westin?
Elaborate.
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>>153459275
Going by the reception ASM is getting it sounds more like they're getting it for the variant cover and not reading the comic
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>>153459275
>>153459290
>>153459308
Sounds like the Marvel employee's having another melty!
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>>153459596
Hey remember how much people were jizzing over muh heckin’ wholesome married peterino when Ultimate Spider-man came out and now nobody gives a shit anymore? How how they also did that Renew Your Vows series where Peter was also married to MJ and had a daughter and it wasn’t satisfying to anyone?
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>>153459688
Well the nature of it being in ultimate is a signal that its not going to crossover to main continuity and its just a temporary thing what people want is the main status quo to be revversed via peter confronting mephisto but pls go on and keep ignoring that. Ur right from their pov it didnt 'prove' that MJ marriage alone would skyrocket sales but its also intentionally not giving people what they want like a carrot on a stick.
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>>153444636
Yes, I've saved a lot of money.
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>>153460061
I love seeing the buying figures for current comics and how abysmal they are compared to manga.
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>>153459750
Word.
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>>153444636
Now I am just indifferent and stuck to pre-OMD material.
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>>153459688
I liked gerry conway renew your vows. Dark age was also good. USM went sour because it focused on everything but peter and MJ.
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>>153461069
God forbid Spider-man actually focused on Spider-man doing actual Spider-man related things instead of just being about being middle-aged and married
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>>153461503
Yeah it's almost as if clone saga that inspired multiverse refugee saga was a mistake.
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>>153461503
Spider man doing spider man things? I think it could work! MJ remains the best civilian aspect of his life. Killing aunt may off in 400 was the right call. Turning his mother into a robot was not, she could have replaced may and been proper "antagonist" to MJ.
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>>153444636
>Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?
Live action Sonic.
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>>153461685
>Spider-Man doing Spider-Man things

80% superhero shit

20% slice of life leading up to superhero shit

That's all I need
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>>153461685
>MJ remains the best civilian aspect of his life.

So true! Just think of all the iconic moments like… MJ sitting at home waiting for Peter to come back. Or Peter ditching MJ because he needs to go be Spider-man. Or when MJ did modeling!
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>>153456390
What's up with OMD garbage and Mephisto?
Is this really the "Spider-man that everyone can relate to" Quesada envisioned?
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>>153444636
OP image reminds me that I really like McNiven drawing Spider-Man and it's a shame that he only ever drew him at what is probably the worst period of the character.
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>>153459552
>it was some kinda plot or something with her working for a villain.
That was the retcon they forced in the issue immediately after this. It wasn't planned.
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>>153461503
Spider-Man isn’t even good at being a superhero anymore. He’s always getting beat by the latest villain. Plus, he only saved three people during the recent storyline and only because they’re going to be used in the upcoming story.
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>>153444636
It's a baffling situation that we're even in.
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>>153444636
>Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?

We have gotten some decent MJ and Peter Content. Spencer run, RYV and USM for example.

I see two problems. First, Marvel is very good at Fucking up then attempting to evolve thier mistake with another fuck up. When they atttempt to course correct, its like turning an oild tanker with a paddle, becuase there are no hard resets (accept for the begining of the wells run for example)

Second, The reverence for continuity in the "MAIN" universe, 616, is one gigantic sunk cost fallacy. readers and editors protect decades of continuity not because it makes the stories better today, but because so much has been built that abandoning feels like waste.

Ultimate, Spencer run, RNV, and the Ultimate Universe relaunch suggest Marvel itself thinks fresh starts and Peters relationship/ Marriage with Mary Jane has value. But they keep coming back to 616 because readers genuinely respond to the accumulated weight, not just the obligation. They want PP/MJ back in 616 becuase of the validation.

we are now looking at MJ becoming entangle with Flash. Flash will become Paul 2.0 and Mary Jane Watson will become Betty 2.0, just another ex; insane. We are also looking at Uncle Ben possibly having an ilegitimate child. The modern steward ship of this property has been a failure. At this Point, so much bad as been shoveled on these characters, if Peter isnt allowed to progress and resolve the mistakes made over the past 30 years, what is the point of continuing 616 when it's just going to be more bad decisions after another?
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>>153462104
disingenuous
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>>153462307
No matter how much they want the fans to move on from MJ, they never will. They will blame the writers and editors and fully accept the future retcons and sweeps under the rug. The same is true for Peter. The good versions of both characters are so well-established in the public perception that they have become indestructible.
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>>153462307
I'm kinda doubtful she gets berry brant treatment due to how popular the character is. Mj just kind of settles in that love interest because outside public more or less will equate them to the equivalent of Superman and lois lane. Most of the time bnd writers just want their own love interest that they can get rid of after the run and use later.
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>>153462124
oh LOL
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>>153459275
>Nobody picks up a comic for this reason
That's cute but demonstrably false revisionism, pic related.
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>>153463100
>No matter how much they want the fans to move on from MJ, they never will
Part of their problem is that fans aren't "moving on" because the mainline comics are the only medium pushing this retarded drama. Marvel editorial is asking fans to forget the stories that drew them into the franchise for material that doesn't respect their time.
Think about it. Someone grows up with the 90s cartoon. What are they going to expect? They're in a relationship. Someone grows up with the Remi trilogy? Relationship. Anything with Miles? A rocky but salvagable relationship.
Most people aren't psychopaths. They want to see a person they like being happy. It doesn't matter if the comics are the "main" continuity (that's not relevant as a concept thanks to the multiverse shit and Marvel importing characters from outside of 616, but I digress), fans are going to base their expectations on their first exposure, and if some other media depicts the guy they're supposed to like as miserable because of relationship drama, they're going to check out early.

The comics are made for nobody except contrarians with a massive cuck fetish, which isn't a profitable demographic.
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>>153444708
Why are you defending MJ so much? who are you? Paul? Flash? Whatever other man's been in her pussy?
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>>153463947
>other man's been in her pussy
like most women
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>>153463947
>Whatever other man's been in her pussy?
This is MJ. You know, the party girl that had 20guys following her around college. Always on a date? You kinda figure she's been ran through as a given.
Stan even joked about her being a cheap date.
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>>153459750
just kill her off, her stories are fucking pathetic and in detriment of better characters,
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Yeah, it did; every time Marvel does a mini-series or spin-off where Pete and MJ are married with a kid, sales get a substantial boost. It's a neat way to spruce up monthly sales numbers whenever they need to and the fans still haven't figure it out yet.
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>>153462307
Speaking of the cousin, what are they even going to do with him? My hope is that he offers Peter a job somewhere outside New York City, maybe Seattle due to his last name?
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>>153450013
>having Spidey reveal himself to a ton of people
That was in Slott's at the end of spider-island.
The spell protecting his identity is gone.
He just isn't with MJ since that's the important thing.
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>>153464307
>You say you gave away your marriage to a demon named Mephisto? That’s nothing, I actually married a demon named Lilith.
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>>153463947
>he doesn't know
those are called marywh0refags
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>>153449433

The Marvel employees going on the attack in this thread explains why they cut their guaranteed run of ten issues down to five
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>>153464637
Losing to DC must be eating them alive. But it's their own fault for being such horrible people.
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>>153464615
Sorry man, this just isn't landing. You guys really need to get the pedophile, Gwenschizo, back on board. He's basically the center of your whole operation.
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>>153464821
Gwenschizo's been reeling after they revealed Paul to be a fraud.
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>>153444636
>Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?
The Sonic movies?
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>>153464869
>Be Marcuck hack.
>Write a shitty story.
>Blame everyone else for your inability to tell stories properly.
It isn't my fault Marvel has inferior writers and editors.
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>>153465037
They really shouldn't have given him a backstory. He should have been just "some guy" like Pedro or whatever. Paul has effectively become such a black eye for them that it's basically killed any story where MJ is quietly paired off with a love interest that isn't Peter.
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This board really can’t handle people not disagreeing with them
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>>153465184
Mostly just Dan.
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>>153465126
Well, it's definitely killed any love I had for Marvel.
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>>153465286
I remember Gwenschizo really loved Paul. When a character's biggest fan is an out and proud pedophile, that's a sign that a character should be deleted.
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>>153465331
I wonder if Lowe ever found that out about Paul's biggest supporter. Someone should bring it up next time he shows up at a convention.
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>>153464869
I hope they bring Paul back from the dead so he can have a heal turn.
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>>153465385
I'm sure Lowe probably knew he was a pedophile and didn't mind. But then he found out about Gwenschizo's Polish ethnicity, became disgusted with himself, and immediately drafted up plans to kill off Paul for good.
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>>153465442
We're never seeing Paul again. Carl Brock has better odds of coming back to life.
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>>153465462
Carl Brock and Herman Schultz sacrificed themselves to keep Paul dead for good.
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>>153464307
Judging from the look on his face and my lack of faith in Kelly and Lowe, my guess is he's just a scumbag who tries to blackmail Peter and dies before he can share his knowledge with the wrong people (except maybe one).
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>>153465544
You’re probably going to be right. It just sucks because it would actually be nice for Peter to have a family member who isn’t either, really old, dead, a clone, or part of some super villain plot.
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>>153449861
I'm sure the MCU could pick an identity out of a hat on their own if needed. Jackpot is "member?" to something that isn't important to Michelle, and Venom obviously has too much audience baggage to be useable there.
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>>153449861
>why is it so important to make MJ a Super
decouple her from ASM and sell her own book
instead of having to buy ASM to see more of MJ you now have to buy the MJ book AND get ASM in case she shows up
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>>153455564
I think Slott is a hack, but I had fun reading the original superior run.
Edgy Spidey was entertaining and the threads here were great.
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>>153465999
I couldn't stand it. Nothing made sense. Things happened for the sake of it. No one could question SpOck about his behavior and the woman that fought off 2 clones trying to replace Peter suddenly can't tell it's not him.
It was stupid.
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EVERYONE IS JUST ABOUT HAD OF YOU SPIDER FAGS IT'S TIME TO TEACH YOU LESSON IN HUMILITY
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>>153466076
>The pedophile, Gwenschizo, wants to molest Smurfette.
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>>153465517
Kek. They're just relieved that Pedo Paul is finally dead.
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>>153466110
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>>153466160
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>>153466149
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET OF THIS BOARD
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>>153466180
No. I'm too happy that Paul is still dead. He was such a worthless faggot.
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>>153466175
JUST WHAT THE FUCK DOES PAUL HAVE TO DO WITH SMURFS ????? YOU HAVE TRULY LOST YOUR MIND
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>>153466205
>>153466175
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>>153465999
Is it possible to get a peter from another dimension that is actually evil. Like he has the god butcher symbiote. I liked when punch black cat, this time he can punch MJ and slap around aunt may.
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>>153466259
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>153466212
>>153466234
>>153466259
>Now the pedophile Gwenschizo wants elder abuse too.
You're a sick little puppy. A real freak.
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>>153466289
He probably beats up his mother, that just seem to be the kind of guy he is.
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>>153466289
>>153466320
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>FACT: Gwenschizo is a pedophile and child abuser
>FACT: Gwenschizo tried to rape his own mother
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>>153466400
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>>153466400
>FACT: Poland is the country with the highest rate of mental illness
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>>153466436
FACT: The only reason Nick Lowe killed off Paul is because he heard that Gwenschizo was a pedophile
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>>153466436
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>>153466494
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>>153466513
FACT: They're bringing back Peter and MJ because they don't want pedophiles as fans anymore.
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>>153466532
>FACT: GWEN WAS JUST A WHORE
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Ok, can anyone give me the context of the gwenschyzo or whatever the hell you guys are talking about?
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>>153466613
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>>153466664
it's best ignore the spider fags not joking when I say everyone has had enough of them.
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>>153466664
He’s some guy who likes to spam threads with bullshit storytimes of What If… Dark Spider-Gwen or One More Day, bullshit about Gwen Stacy, bullshit about Paul Rabin, bullshit about DC, Disney, or the Smurfs, or bullshit where he brags about being a child molester. He’s obsessed with these threads and was basically going to spam a random smurfette image here every sixty seconds before people started bullying him.
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>>153466685
That’s Gwen that’s what the whore looks like after a busy day of fucking Norman Osborn and also Black Norman Osborn.
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>>153466784
Gwenschizo hates Black Norman even more than White Norman because Poland is an extremely racist country!
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>>153466758
FUCK FO NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT SPIDER-MAN EVER AGAIN YOU PEOPLE ARE FINISHED.
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>>153466784
>>153466817
>>153466758
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>>153466833
Yeah see, it’s always the same shit with Gwenschizo. He’s a pedophile, and those kinds of people have zero impulse control.
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>>153466879
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>>153465886
this would work if she and Peter were together. Venom isnt selling that well, any interest comes from eddie fans who want thier book back and Pete/MJ fans.
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>>153466978
FUCK OFF.
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spiderman fans are the isekai-fans of comics. they just eat up endless slop.
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>>153466991
how about YOU fuck off.
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>>153467128
yeah man you said it the sooner they all die the better maybe then the world will be a slighly better place. Oh well at least at it wiill soon be over once ASM hits issue then just about everyone will drop the that book in a heartbeat
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>>153467128
>>153467301
Samefag.
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>>153467273
Once ASM hits issue 1000 it will be all OVER for good and you know that enjoy what little time you have left. For after that nobody will buy or give a shit about that title ever again
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>>153467333
wrong moron.
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>>153467355
That's what you said about Paul and now he's dead.
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>>153467376
You're the moron.
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>>153467409
hahaa soon it will Once ASM hits issue 1000 it truly will be over.
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spider-man fans are nothing but toxic people who should wiped of the face planet
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>>153467435
>Gwenschizo's gone insane.
He must have syphilis of the brain.
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>>153467471
Oh come on we all know what will once hits ASM hits issue 1000 not a shitpost. think things are bad now just wait peter's cousin becomes the focus of the book insted of peter. fans will go >fuck this shit I am dropping this book for good.
and that's excacty what will happen
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>>153444636
They got OMIT and deep sixed every new love intrest for Peter and MJ.
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>>153464123
They tried, everyone hated it. They're not going to do it again.
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>>153467567
fans should've done that after:
OMD, OMT and all the other shit done to drag down and ruin the relationship
ASM is the perfect zombie book
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>>153467567
Every Spider-Man fan would be grateful if Marvel finally canceled ASM.
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>>153467456
>>153467567
Sorry I don’t read posts by child rapists do I have no idea what this says.
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>>153467383
Gwenschizo’s really falling apart right now. He knows he’s nothing without Paul.
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>>153467877
news flash for after ASM 1000 nobody will read spider-man again perioid not a shitpost so just deal with it,
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>>153467845
Spider-Man began to go to shit with tjhe death Gwen Stacy she should not have died.
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>>153467973
Paul’s never going to rape Dylan now… how sad for you pedophiles…
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>>153468003
>she should not have died
That’s why you murdered Gerry Conway, didn’t you? You fucking pedophile, you KILLED someone. You’re a rapist AND a murderer.
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>>153467884
>Spider-Man really falling apart especially ASM ler's all stop reading Spider-Man.
sounds like a good idea to me.
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>>153468016
Are you nuts or is this a shitpost? Conway died of natural causes now let me make something clear to you if you ppst something like this to his famiily then they THEY will be the ones who come after YOU not me .And I suggest you take this dead serious for this is no joke.
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>>153468026
>sounds like a good idea to me let’s all become pedophiles, I support pedophiles.
DISGUSTING
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>>153468099
I think you should be investigated for your role in the death of Gerry Conway let’s face it you hated Conway for killing off Gwen you wanted to murder him you wanted his blood. You kept posting threats against his life and said he deserved to die.
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>>153468114
>I am dropping Spider-Man for good it's too much of a shit book.

good for you anon
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>>153468143
Weren’t there posts saying by Gwenschizo saying he’d poison Conway and make it look like natural causes? I think the FBI should take a look at him…
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>>153468143
You want Conway family to come after your ass fine by all means go post your shit to them and watch them come after you.
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>>153468186
You are not funny and just to be clear neither is this post.
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>>153468186
I think we should send some tips to the FBI explaining that Gwenschizo might have a role in Gerry Conway’s death I mean it could be nothing but every lead should be investigated and any evidence of foul play should be overlooked. I’m sure Gwenschizo will do fine if he’s investigated by the FBI if he has nothing to hide after all in fact I think he’d thank us for getting a chance to clear his good name.
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>>153468254
> the truth is I never gave a shit about Spider-Man I only wrote it for need of money. In other words to make meets end.
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>>153468373
See, its comments like these that make Gwenschizo a suspect, anyways we should send some anonymous tips to the FBI recommending to have Gwenschizo looked into…
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>>153466879
Mary Jane is the whore of the marvel universe. Mary whore fags and Mary whore got Gwen killed by the Green Gay Goblin because Mary whore and the Mary whore fags were obnoxious rude arrogant assholes who couldn't accept Peter being with his true love Gwen stacy
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>>153468435
And that’s why you poisoned Gerry Conway…
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>>153468458
Cut the bullshit our it's not funny show some respect for Conway damn you.
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I hated writing Spider-Man I only did it since I got paid for it.
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>>153468599
Thanks for letting us know, Dan.
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>>153468546
Poland would extradite you just to have one less pedophile in the country.
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>>153468652
Not a pedophile you idiot.
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>>153466833
>>153466853
Man, you need to catch a few bullets.
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>>153468546
I will be posting on the FBI’s tip line that you made terroristic threats against Gerry Conway and his family shortly before his death. You better have a good explanation for them…
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>>153468435
>>153468435
>Mary Jane is the whore of the marvel universe.
no
>couldn't accept Peter being with his true love Gwen stacy
Gwen was never going to accept Peter after finding he lied to her, got her father killed and put her in danger with the green goblin.
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>>153469339
Agreed. Gwen was a waste of time.
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>>153468692
Oh really? Then how come whenever you arrive the only thing you talk about is you being a pedophile???
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>>153465759
He has two brothers and that's good enough for me
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>>153470477
I still can’t believe that Marvel hasn’t made a book with all three of them, when the highest grossing Spider-Man movie of all time shows how much a similar dynamic works.
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>>153470477
He said no clones
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>Cucked by Gwen?

Woah!
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>>153468435
She's more of a cunt than a whore.
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The reason why OMD wasn't reversed is because Marvel is run by a bunch of dicks
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>whining general
maryshitfags keep fellating themselves and Marvel keeps laughing at them
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>>153444636
>Has fan outrage ever changed anything for the better?
Sonic de Hedgehog
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>>153452701
For a moment there I thought that was Aunt May lmao
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>>153444636
American comics are depressingly minuscule industry and a tiny handful of people control it, so if someone is enough of a fucked up narcissistic they can force their shitty mandates for basically their entire lives no matter how many people hate it.
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>>153470686
I miss my nigga Kaine like you wouldn't believe
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>>153444636
Because they know comic book fans are cucks.

That's why Brevoort, Lowe, White, Yoshida and Quesada are so fucking smug.

The Amazing Spider-Man sells no matter what, the closest they came to panicking was under Zeb Wells' run and its fallout with Paul because too many patrons of LCSs refused to by anything with Paul Rabin in it but otherwise fans are cuckolds just like Peter Parker himself as they keep buying shit while whining that they bought exactly what they knew what they were getting.

ASM #1,000 will be a nothingburger, EVERYONE will be disappointed but nothing will significantly change neither in-universe nor sales-wise despite how many people online swear up and down that this milestone is the absolute limit for their Sunk Cost Fallacy, yet history has proven otherwise for nearly 2 decades now.

Unless Marvel HQ burns down with all of the OMD/BND ncels inside of it nothing will ever change as they had nearly 20 years of institutionalizing their ideology and further entrenching their power while cheating on their wives by sexually assaulting female staff with threats of blacklistings towards the younger, hotter pieces of ass than their wives they hate and see as balls and chains so they live vicariously through Peter Parker being a fuckboy as these Gen-Xers' self-insert whicih has been the case since Quesada was a fat whiny bitch about his wife divorcing him giving him a mid-life crisis and his intrusive thoughts about him wanting to fuck his own daughter made him have Spider-Man fuck her as a rebound from Mary Jane.
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>>153474797
>EVERYONE
Talk for yourself.
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>>153474763
Until the comics improve, I'd rather he be left untouched and unbothered. If Ben wasn't in desperate need of fixing, I'd feel the same about him.
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>>153458045
Does it matter? New management was acquiescing to what the fans want at the end of the day.
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>>153474797
Why do you keep pretending "fans" are the ones who are buying ASM and not the variant cover collectors?
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>>153444636
Anon, no one is complaining. Litterally everyone who isnt a degenerate comic addict has given up on Spiderman.
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>>153475056
Doesn't change the fact that I miss him like you wouldn't believe.
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>>153475111
>Anon, no one is complaining.

Literally every single Spider-man is nothing but people bitching and moaning
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>>153474797
Anon comics sales are shit and have been shit for a long time, of there weren't retarded collectors that need to buy every single variant they wouldn't sell any comic at all.
Comic sales don't matter while they have MCU and Disney series money to hang on, while normies keep going to the movies to see the new marvel slop or paying D+ to watch another what if slop then nothing will change.
Everyone hated Zeb Wells spiderman run yet normies still went to see Deadpool 3 directed by Zeb wells.
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>>153453600
Marvel Mephisto Mandate is going to tank MCU after the comics. Where would this IP be taken to when that happens?
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>>153472404
>>153474410
Man, you guys really ain’t shit without Gwenschizo…



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