Serialtards BTFO'd lmao.
>>153447708>tiny humans with tiny attention spans like fast-paced silliness more than shows that require you having full context for each episodeNo shit, Sherlock.
There should be both zany comedy cartoons and cartoons that have ongoing narratives, it doesn't have to be one or the other.
>>153447708Depends on age.After like 8 years old I couldn't switch to serialized fast enough. I was instantly hooked on shit like Pokemon and DBZ.Even though it was horrible trying to watch serialized shows on cable television back then.
>Twitter screencap thread>literallywho
>>153447976Cope
>>153447708That’s just because Chowder is based and better than that fagshit>>153448413You do
>>153447774yeah me too i loved serialised stuff
/co/ doesn't like to hear this, but no one except the autistic gives a fuck about serialized storytelling in modern cartoons.It was more respected when shows like BTAS, Gargoyles, and STAS were airing because those shows had much better storytelling, but nowadays the storytelling is vastly inferior and the characters are much less interesting to people who aren't autistic, so there's no point.The closest you'll get to those old shows is in adult cartoons, stuff like Common Side Effects or Primal, and the latter is mostly because of the action, not the story.
>>153449352Nah, Primal’s good
>>153449363I like Primal, but the story definitely isn't its strongest suit.Which is kind of why it works, the show is honestly at its best when it's just about the adventure and the action.
>>153447708OHNONONO Trixbros
>>153447748No Owl House isnf funny
>>153447708>KIDS KIDS KIDS KIDS KIDS Western animation companies instantly loose their demographic once they grow up a little and have nothing to offer to them anymore.Anime does well because they actually catter to teens and young adults, those and shit like Arcane is proof the demand exists for that.
>>153448413Respectfully, nobody is impressed that you browse redditI won't hold it against you if you browse it however it's not something to be proud of either
>>153447708>Animation/Anime
>>153449498Yes
Say it with me, /co/LORE IS BORE
>>153449846lore isn't the issue, being fucking gay is we bare bears wasn't lore and it sucked because it was fucking gay
>>153447708For little kids, sureThe Last Airbender was like crack for early teenagers
Shit like Owl House and Steven Universe isn’t for kids. It’s for emotionally stunted overweight young adult white women.
>>153449912No shit, serialized cartoons/anime were huge in the 00s and 10s.
>>153449352Anime is a 10 billion dollar market in the USA and Netflix and Amazon originals make up a massive share of streaming, it’s not because of serialization.
>>153449846Correct>>153449868Also correct
I mean, yeah. We all know most of those lore cartoons are for childrenless milenials.
>>153447708>owl houseMaybe try something that isn’t subversive LGBT propaganda?
>>153449928>just how it’s always been>Well this time frame doesn’t countOkay.
>>153447708Does it even matter? The industry is still in shambles
>>153449984Both were wildly popular with kids though (Owl House especially.)
>>153449868>we bare bears wasn't lore and it sucked because it was fucking gayGay? which one? must be ice bear
>>153447708Yeah, it was the serialization and not the heckin wholesome queers that bothered them, sure.
This honestly just sounds like anti-TOH crying instead of a real scenario, even if you like TOH/serial cartoons you wouldn't start out kids with that instead of Avatar, Gargoyles, Adventure Time etc
>>153450416TOH queers don't appear until dozens of episodes in
guess CN should really turn into a preschool slop channel if retarded children with attention spans shorter than OP's penis aren't going to watch Owl House lol
>>153450416Kids aren’t naturally homophobic so the novelty of gay shit in kids show is lost of them. So yeah the whole meme about those shows being for adult trannies and queer women is true.
>>153449352Digital Circus and Hazbin Hotel are doing gangbusters so no, people do care. What doesn't work is serial stories in kids cartoons.
>>153450537>Adventure TimeAT is pretty mediocre at being a serialized cartoon.
>>153450624Without TOH and similar shows HH wouldn’t even have an audience. You have to ease kids into LGBT tolerance and acceptance so they don’t grow into raging homophobes and/or closet cases.
>>153450642I disagree, it starts out wacky and episodic and eases you in into the serialization
>>153450664Bu the serialized part is very inconsistent in its writing, especially character writing.
>>153450624Or rather, serial stories in shows that look like Avatar clones or Steven Universe clones, both of which are old and busted
>>153450642episodic but with continuity is the move. as a kid i was amazed when Finn would stay injured in the next episode, or pull out an artifact from last season
>>153450659>Without TOH and similar shows HH wouldn’t even have an audienceBullshit, Hazbin Hotel comes from the school of Homestuck and pastel horses, its genealogy is not from owl house
>>153450673Kids won't notice that
>>153450714Do you seriously think there would be enough gay and queer people around to watch that shit if they weren’t exposed to kid friendly LGBT stuff as children?
>>153450767Hazbin Hotel and all the gay boys in it is by and for straight women, a time honored tradition.
>>153450767...yes? Shitty boring cartoons don't make you gay. Not literally, anyway.
this is just saying chowder appeals more to kids than The Owl House which tracks.
>>153447773>There should be both zany comedy cartoons and cartoons that have ongoing narratives, it doesn't have to be one or the other.But which one increases shareholder stake the most?
Will point out, literally none of the "deep lore" shows are serialize. They're episodic with a plot, which is a big difference. 90% of all the episodes in Owl House or Amphibia or Avatar can be rearranged without it really effecting the plot. Take any popular shonen series and I am almost certain the same can't be said. If you watched Bleach on shuffle you wouldn't get anything, same goes for Dragon Ball and One Piece. That's what serlization means, not "story has a plot."
>>153450767Did cartoons make you straight?
Watching Owl House as someone who only started watching it recently and just came off a recent anime binge...it's pretty boring.The first season feels very episodic and standalone, but many of the scenarios and humour doesn't land. And many of the side characters are pretty boring and generic, designs also aren't too great. Kikimora however has a great design. But the Amity Luz relationship is very poorly done, ever since Amity came out to Luz, all they do is blush and talk about their relationship whenever they interact, which is very boring and will bore most kids. Hell it's boring as hell to me. If they had developed it more gradually and actually had their relationship have more substance it probably would have worked, but as it is, kids would find it boring and adults will probably find it silly unless they are very fixated on LGBT Representation shit. Also, I did recently see the original Ben 10, and I really liked it. It's not an age thing, it's just they aren't focusing on the fun and adventure that kids, especially boys, like.
>>153450949Yes
>>153447708based OP. Owl house fags got destroyed in one post
>>153447774>Pokemon>serializedYeah, no
>>153450180It really wasn't
that's the difference between kid media and family entertainmentsure, you can keep a kid entertained by jingling keys in front of their face, but if a parent is watching with them it will be a mind-numbing experience there is a happy medium
>>153447708I can’t believe homophobes and other chuds are still seething about Owl House.
>>153450416the heckin wholesome queers in that one courage episode didnt bother me (then again it was subtle unlike TOH)
>>153447708>twitter niggers with retarded opinion
>>153451739I have higher standards for 'toons. Sorry, bro.
>>153450573>Kids aren’t naturally homophobiclollmao
>>153451739Owl House sucks, A terrible show.
>>153451888Their family and Friends teach them to be homophobic
>>153447708I'm more of an episodic guy, but I'm rewatching ATLA for the first time since it aired and it's crazy how much I can remember. Serialized cartoons can reach younger audiences if you have writers who know what they are doing (doesn't apply to TOH)
>>153447708BUT MUH LORE!!!!
>>153450891This
>>153447708good
>not showing them rock paper scissors
>>153450973Yeah I found Owl House really boring, and I can't explain why. It feels like it could have been great, but it never quite came together.
>>153450928It's a spectrum. Some shows are more serialized than others.On one end you have Spongebob and on the other you have Dragonball.Somewhere in the middle lie shows like Owl House.And shows like Steven Universe vary over time. It started out mostly episodic and got more serialized as time went on.
>>153447748Shouldn't you be posting on bluesky?
>>153447708Weird, I was pretty young following shows like Thundercats. I loved it when episode stories extend. I'll do the anti-vaccer thing and say if I never had a shot, no one should. My lived experiences trump other's as it were.
>>153447708Even Gen Alpha’s can tell the Owl House is bullshit.
>>153447774Pokémon absolutely is not serialized
>>153447708>And that's just how it's always beenYet when I was 5 I had my parents record in a VHS the Gargoyles episodes since they would air while I was at school, and the talk in the playground was always Dragon Ball and not something episodic like The Simpsons. Is this that "history erasure" I keep hearing about? Weird that it didn't involve black people.
>>153447708ChowderGODS mog Owlcucks
>>153450416>not the heckin wholesome queers that bothered them, sure.The Loud House have queers stuff btw
>>153451888same-sex sexual behavior, including pairing and parenting, has been reported in over 1,500 species of animals across the animal kingdom, including mammals, birds, fish, and insects.Homosexual is natural, vive la gay!
>>153452062You don't need to teach kids to make fun of fags.>>153458608>same-sex sexual behavior, including pairing and parenting, has been reported in over 1,500 species of animals across the animal kingdom, including mammals, birds, fish, and insects.So has incest and cannibalism.
>>153451888Commonplace isn't the same as natural. Homophobia is a learned behavior. You see how everyone fucks with fags and compensate to avoid being on the receiving end. Ridiculous displays of "masculinity" and joining in the bullying to stay high on the pecking order.
>>153447708>xitter thread
>>153447708Age might play a factor. I didn't get into serialized stuff until I was like 10, and yeah if you're showing something that requires an attention span to toddlers, of course they're going to be bored. There's also the fact that kids are raised on ipads and brainrot now, and the serialized shows they have to look forward to are shit like The Bowel House.
>>153447708I think the mistake here is that those are different demographics, the kids interested in serialized content are older than the ones that like to watch dumb cartoon stuffAlso i do not like that OP hes really fucking annoying but thats besides the point
>>153458746>>153450416Not everyone is a sissy little faggot that is scared of everything like you anon
>>153447708He didn't even say kids in general, just "a lot of kids".>>153449846Lore is bore
>>153447708But but but millennials said they loved stories and that slapstick was just immature how could this be?>>153447774Those were actually engaging though and didn't lecture the audience about irrelevant bullshit and on top of that writing in modern cartoons is awful and they use the same plots at this point basically (group of friends working together have to solve bullshit, or Girl has to save the world by being quirk chungus, or the show where we swear a lot as a substitution for good writing) it's like they copy what was popular in the 90s and 2000s and fail to see why those were popular in the first place.
>>153447708When I was a kid, I found serialized shows frustrating because I hated it when I missed episodes and had to enter or reenter a show in the middle of a story. I would still probably feel that way if I were watching network tv, but streaming has really solved my problem there.
