>Joe Kelly has currently finished a symbiote crossover with MJ as Venom, after doing a dual-narrative arc where Peter is stuck in space with a bootleg Guardians of the Galaxy and Norman posing as Spider-Man on Earth>Its only purpose was to kill off Paul (after waiting way too long) and introduce Peter's new cousin for a story that will run to ASM #1000>The main villain's identity and backstory has to be pushed to a one-shot since they never bothered to develop him at all throughout the crossover>JRJR is still on the title instead of being booted to another title or even a secondary Spider-Man ongoing>Pepe Larraz has most likely left the title>Slott is back, threatening to destroy the character again with a BND nostalgia book, after his previous books with Bagley failed>The Spider-Office still kneels to the X-Office and is now going to kneel for Hulk books as well since Spidey is now confirmed to become one of the heroes claimed by Infernal Hulk>The Spider-Office is confirmed doing synergy with the Spider-Man show for literal toddlers>MJ is the All-New Venom and they're bringing back Knull for a King in Black sequel that no one asked for>They're making a school book with all the other Spider-Heroes (despite half of them having been around for 10+ years)>Nick Lowe was not laid off and continues to be employed by Marvel even after tanking ASM and continuing to be publicly humiliated >Spider-Threads are STILL unbrowsable
>>153451007>>The Spider-Office still kneels to the X-Office and is now going to kneel for Hulk books as well since Spidey is now confirmed to become one of the heroes claimed by Infernal Hulhuh
They "killed off" the only character who matters.
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>>153451007>Spider-Threads are STILL unbrowsableAnd this thread is no exception.
>>153451007>What Went Wrong, Spider-Bros?
>>153451459oh
>>153451173>They "killed off" the only character who matters.Who? Bizarro?
>>153451007What I don't understand is why Spider-Editorial doesn't just kill of Mary Jane? I mean it's no secret they despise her for replacing Gwen, but why these weird stunts with trying to make her a lamer legacy superhero like Jackpot or Venom?The only thing I can figure that KIND OF makes sense is marketing but even then what difference does it make? How many casuals even know Spider-Man sold his marriage to Marvel's Devil? The DC crossovers are also viewed as more or less "Elseworld-lite" for branding which is why Spider-Man and MJ were a thing to contrast Superman and Lois recently.So what difference does it make if she is killed off? Apparently that 'ages' him or makes Spider-Man "that superhero whose girlfriends always die" according to Brevoort so why not make her a villain, put her in a coma, a prison or some form of stasis?Wouldn't Queen in Black be the perfect opportunity to do one of those things or make her QiB herself to keep her from Peter forevermore and keep editorial happy while no longer dicking around remaining fans with false hope?
>>153455966>What I don't understand is why Spider-Editorial doesn't just kill of Mary Jane?will they wont they gets them more money than trying to kill herthey've tried
Too based to be killed off.Too sexy to be not be shown on panel.
>>153451007>What Went WrongCarol isn't Venom
>>153456145Carol should've stayed in literal Limbo with Marcus.
>>153451007>Slott is back, threatening to destroy the character again with a BND nostalgia book, after his previous books with Bagley failedDoes Slott have dirt on someone or what? He always comes back to Spider-Man...>The Spider-Office still kneels to the X-OfficeI haven't read comics in like 4 years, and this is still happening?
>>153456395BND loyalists, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some illegal stuff involved.
>>153456145Being a deadbeat stepmom is a bad look for their so-called main heroine.
>>153451007I don't fucking get it. How can this retards still have a job? Slott is coming back? That pig fuck squealing to Lowe's seedy character raping call? Jesus Christ, how can anyone who follow spider-man series closely not see these people are better off retired or thrown out on the streets.
>>153451007Remember when they had that cliffhanger of Moira about to skin MJ and left it there for months until the book could finally address it? Spider office is incredibly bad at managing events. >>153456395He's a suck up who will do whatever they tell him to do. That's it.
>>153451007anything with marywhore is a waste of ink that might be the main problem
>>153455966>>153456040maryjean has no place in Spider-Man, if she ever did to begin with>why not kill her off?easy to explain, there's a minority of retard fans that can't move on and will desperately consume garbage where she's featured. this creates a particularly shitty level cycle of comics.
>>153456395No idea why Marvel brings him back, but Slott said that he wanted to hold the most records he could for Spider-Man. Most centenary issues, etc. The only one he thought he couldn't get was most issues because of Bendis's USM, and he thought Bendis would never leave, so he gave up at 801 saying that he was already long out of ideas, but that was his last reachable "milestone". Then Bendis went to DC. After that, Bendis has continued to return sporatatically, with the worst shit he's ever written, to bump up his numbers so that he can finally, by his metric, be the most "influential" Spider-Man writer.
>>153451007All this slop and there's still clowns who thought the Minus One pitch was worse than any of this. The mandates from editorial and Don't are not what made Peter good, stop listening to people who "play both sides" by claiming they want his character to improve but also want any changes to keep honoring the mandates
>>153457892*editorial and Sony
>>1534560408/10, needs more freckles
>>153457265>Remember when they had that cliffhanger of Moira about to skin MJ and left it there for months until the book could finally address it? Spider office is incredibly bad at managing events.To be fair, that ASM issue was originally going to release right after the HFG one-shot, but ended up getting delayed to September instead because of them having to temporarily halt their twice-a-month schedule and switch to a regular one
>>153451007That despite all that, Spider-Man seems to still sell perfectly fine.There's that "Gotta have my Batman" meme, but I've seen the Batman book tank after certain decisions, while Spider-Man seems to at worst dip a little bit before quickly recovering.
>>153457357>>153457404Wow, Paulfags and Gwenfags are really suffering since Gwenschizo lost interest...You guys really need your big brother, a child rapist from Poland, to help yourselves out.
>>153457892>Minus One pitchqrd?
>>153461777You can simplify it even further to "gotta have my slop", using the name of the comic implies consistently consuming it is a healthy habit
>>153463263Peter is a teen dad, Gwen is in a wheelchair, Aunt May dies before he puts on the mask. It's the Anti-BND
>>153461777>That despite all that, Spider-Man seems to still sell perfectly fine.Eeeeehhhhh it sells fine for a current day Marvel comic but in reality Spider-Man should be the industry leader right up there with Batman and the only issue of Spider-Man that managed to break the top fifty sales from last year was a new #1 that was boosted with a million variants>I've seen Batman tankI don't think the main flagship Batman book has sank to what Amazing Spider-Man's been consistently selling at for the last five, six, seven years
>>153463283That sounds retarded where did that come from? Fan fic?
>>153463304Nah it's something I posted in an old thread a while ago. It came from discussing ways of modernizing Peter's backstory and distancing him from the current creative mandates on his character
>>153451007I think the symbiotes are being treated better than Spidey rn
>>153463227I've never seen you criticize the mandates or BND's reset. Everything else sucks but what Marvel shat out was somehow gold
>>153455966I honestly think this is how Queen in Black is going to end. They'll use Venom #258 as a chance to "fix" their friendship at the very least, just to kill her, or ship her off into space indefinitely. Probably the latter, so Peter can mourn just a bit, but not so much that it replaces how much he mourns Gwen. This way, Lowe can continue to operate with his dick in his hand doing whatever he wants to do with manchild Peter for the next 10-15 years.MJ will be gone, Felicia will be gay, Gwen will be replaced by a teenage girl that is only allowed to have feelings for Miles, and writers can continue cycling in and out their new flavor of the year love interests like Carlie Cooper, Shay Marken, and Raelith.They will continue to churn out variant covers with MJ, Felicia, and Spider-Gwen, despite none of them being a love interest for Peter at all.
>>153455966They don't hate Mary Jane. They hate Jim Shooter.
>>153463556He didn't create Mary
>>153463329Oh, I see. Spider-Man threads on /co/ have this weird lore I'm really not privy to
>>153463293Adding to this don't forget Tom King got shitcanned off Batman after one issue of his run sold less than an issue of Hulk. Amazing Spider-Man is currently being outsold, by a wide margin, by a Wonder Woman comic and a goddamn Martian Manhunter comic. And Marvel editorial doesn't seem to give a shit based on the fact the build up to Amazing 1000 is just some dumbass reveal about Peter having a cousin or something.
>>153463564One of his last actions at Marvel was to having Peter and MJ get married. Keeping them apart is an eternal fuck-you to Shooter.
>>153463352You guys probably aren't getting Classic Gwenschizo back. The amount of times he's outed himself as a child abuser has really hurt his brand, and he's been kind of listless lately. He's barely storytimed What If... Dark Spider-Gwen or howled about how Paul is going to fuck Dylan lately. I'm afraid to get that guy's energy back, you might need to become a child rapist or something yourself. Think about it. Gwenschizo was the only think keeping you guys successful. Without him you're nothing.
>>153463663He's not her creator. >>153464257That's still not saying anything bad about the current comics, you don't enjoy reading the current crap, do you?
>>153465027Like, at least Gwenschizo would respond with some random crap or post *smug face* or something instead of anything logical or coherent. Maybe you guys should start cold calling sex offender registries and see if one of them is willing to be your guys' All New Gwenschizo
>>153465268You honestly enjoy post-bnd slop That's a choice, for sure
