So he was always meant to be a clone, right?
>>153455835No but he was supposed to be related to him by season 4
>>153455835Probably, they knew cloning was part of the show
>>153455835I feel like it was implied in the original pitch they included in the VB book
>>153456052What book?
>>153457132The art and making of the VB. It wasn't in the pitch, I was wrong. Still, this page makes me think that they always had at least a vague idea of Monarch being related to Rusty. And just look at the OP, come on
A lot thing were NOT always meant to be. It was a "snowball" style of writing where they took care that they weren't contradicting themselves and that things felt AS IF they had always been meant to be so. Possible because small team (2) with mutual respect.
>>153457301Well, it certainly implies that the Monarch is crazy and blew the butterfly thing out of proportion, with the possibility that the real reasons for his behaviour is something he can't remember due to his madness. But it doesn't really say much about his relation to Rusty, it's mostly about how he ended up a major character because they couldn't be bother to come up with different character dynamics for Dr. Girlfriend.
It's well-known that Baron Underbheit was intended to be a much bigger character than he turned out being. Just kind of fizzled.
>>153457969Speaking of which, isn't it weird that the guy pretending to be a pirate ghost as a racket ended up being a recurring character until the end? Who the hell imagined a parody of the Scooby-Doo villain of the week formula characters would end up having such a large role?
>>153455835I thought something like that was going on when they revealed Rusty used the learning beds around season 3. I assumed he was a test tube baby, either a clone of Jonas or some kind of engineered super scientist...that was a failure.
>>153457301I kind of wish they went that direction with Dr Girlfriend, it makes her name make a little more sense.
>>153458074He probably liked doing the voice.
>>153458142not me, I still remember how I reacted to her name when I was watching the pilot and Dia de los Dangerous>god that's so pathethic>god this villain is so pathetic >god every character is so pathethicI knew that I was going to love venture bros
>>153457529I'm just realizing he's like Speargoes ook ook for butterflies.>>153457350Yep. They'd lay out a random name or event and then flesh it out later. Very smart.>>153457969it's too bad, I loved his unique voice, but he really didn't have legs, so to speak.>>153458142I mean they kind of did, just reduced the number down to 2. But she's always been just a professional #2 romantic interest to villains. Which makes the name even funnier, like when we see her origin she obviously wants something classy and playing off of her intelligence not her body, even IF she is just in the Guild to be with a man.So at some point after she breaks up with Limb, she goes to the Guild, asks for a new persona, they finally get what her vibe is, and they dress her up as Jackie O, and she calls herself DOCTOR girlfriend, so she'll sound smart.. and then the icing on the cake was her not knowing who Jackie O was.
>>153458074I didn't, but I'm ultimately glad he did. He's a fun recurring character.
>>153458074the hilarious part is that he never got a name. he's just 'pirate captain' right to the end.
>>153455835No. None of this LORE was planned in advance. They always built of existing material and retards go OMG LORE! Fuck you.
>>153455835It was pretty obvious, even if they didn't plan it from the start.They are both bald, and have the same nose and chin!
>>153457301>Monarch was originally some one-off-ish character but they kept gravitating towards him and Dr.Girlfriend was meant to be more of a gag but they gave her to the Monarch and that ended up making her more of a character as wellAmazing reading these kinds of stories where a good idea is sort of "forced" into existence, like it refuses to be ignored
>>153459434>They are both baldRusty and who? Monarch? No. Rusty's nose points down whilst Monarch's points forward (and is arguably longer), they don't have the same chin and Monarch definitively is not bald. In fact, they made a point of this in Radiant is The Blood of The Baboon's Heart in that Monarch was spliced with 2% Baboon DNA to prevent the inherent premature balding in Rusty's DNA. Which is why he still has a full head of hair, is highly aggressive and probably why he has super long eyebrows and a big dick.
>>153459494Monarch and Rusty just look like different versions of the same guy. Not Jonas specifically, just a lanky white guy with red hair and a hooked nose
>>153459564yeah makes you wonder what the mom looked like
>>153459469>Amazing reading these kinds of stories where a good idea is sort of "forced" into existence, like it refuses to be ignoredThat describes The Monarch very well, he's like the ultimate brainworm.The Monarch is a version of Rusty that is more capable and resilient despite his flaws, there's a reason a guy in a butterfly custom is able to command as much respect as he does.
>>153460203Both Rusty and Malcolm understand that the whole "system" is retarded. But Malcolm embraced it and wants to be a bigger menace, while thinking that the rules are dumb. Rusty is tired, he wants to escape. He is also very competent, most people forget about a lot of the stuff he did. Not just copying his dad or JJ. His biggest flaw is that he's a mediocre loser, and he accepts it because he doesn't cares anymore
>>153459494Baboons have small dicks though. Monarch's dick is big because he's just that guy.
>>153460311yeah Malcolm's kind of hilarious, he sees the guild for what it is, and is only using it for his own ends. he gives zero fucks, and defects or breaks rules in a heartbeat. whereas Doc thinks he's doing legit science WHEN he breaks rules.>>153460373you're right about a lot of primates, but not baboons. Hamadryas boons are packing 5.5 inches, and they're WAY smaller than us.
>>153460311The system was forced upon Rusty who tried embracing it but did so in a half-assed manner, like trying to build off his fathers work because Rusty doesn't like the system. When he does make something of his own, like the teleporter, he gets fucked over because the system doesn't reward ingenuity like that. He hates the system and would rather live a mediocre life in the end instead of trying to keep up with a bunch of manchildren who think he's Dad was "cool"Malcolm walked into the system, knew it was retarded but had to play along if he wanted to harass Rusty for no good reason but he'll also skirt around the rules and even break them because he knows this is bullshit and other Villains are just as bullshitJJ just flat out ignored the rules, rejected the OSI and would kill a Villain trying to arch him as a first responseEvery Jonas knows the system is bullshit and has their own way of dealing with it, very cool Venture bros
