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>Maul: Shadow Lord Chapters 9 and 10 will hit Disney+ on Monday, May 4 at "12 a.m. local time,"
Are you excited? Did you like it so far? Any theories? Any idea who tf thought that release schedule was a good idea?
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I’ve liked the other episodes but I loved these last two. Seeing Maul get more of a proper focus, him reflecting on his past, it was great

And seeing him look at his reflection and shout “I hate you!” and then comfort his younger self hit very close to home for me. Which I wasn’t expecting I liked Maul before but I never found him relatable you know?

Also I’m glad Marrok and Crow were cool. Always liked their designs and felt they were a bit wasted in their debut’s. Especially Marrok because now he seems like a proper threat like how he doesn’t spam the spinning function on his saber and saves it for the killing blow, or against someone he needs to use it on
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>>153462303
>Are you excited?
Yes
>Did you like it so far?
Yes
>Any theories?
None that I can really say of. I'm just genuinely enjoying this, I do kind of hope when Devon crosses over to the dark aide her akin becomes red. Makes about as much sense as a y of the othe dumb shit in Acolyte.

Like if star wars can have retarded shit, why can't I have stuff I like?
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>>153462420
Also keep it up doodle anon
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>>153462303
I am not watching any more previews because the trailers have already spoiled the shit out it. Also reminder that the finale dropping at local time means Kiwis and Aussies will get it first. If you aren't on private trackers to pirate it early get off social media on Sunday.
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>>153462489
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>>153462497
Fuck the boy Devon
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Will they ever add Devon to Fortnite?
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literally me every morning staring at myself in the mirror
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>>153462545
>the stick from the episode where she had her ass slapped
lmao
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>>153462431
To doodle anon or an edit anon could you put this to anyone you think this applies to?
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they nailed the art direction
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>>153463069
Arts been really nice. Again I chop it up to them being on one planet.
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Honestly, Daki is kind of an asshole. He ruined the police officer's life by going to his home, then never apologized, and then hesitated about whether saving his son from jail was a good idea. I bet he will die in one fo the following episodes
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>Dooku
>Maul
>saved Star Wars animation
Apologize.
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>>153462803
Neither of those sadly but Lawson for sure
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>Suddenly in the top 10 shows on Disney Plus for over a week

Genuinely what happened here?
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I don't like how every animated Filoni show is effectively the same thing, and wish all the post-TCW S7 stuff were just released as part of a big ongoing anthology series rather than pretending Maul is fundamentally different than, for example, the Bad Batch or Tales of the Empire

That is my autistic nitpick of the day
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>>153465594
Some seasons would release with short 2-4 episode self contained stories like ToT Jedi and ToT Underworld, and some seasons would release as big seasonal projects little Bad Batch or Maul.

I think there would be less of a feeling of Filoni Fatigue if these projects all felt like one ongoing series rather than spamming D+ with a dozen "different" filoni series
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>>153465540
bots?
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>>153465662
To what end? That many bots, enough to overwhelm legitimate D+ viewership would cost a LOT of money with no real goal
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>>153465662
>>153465540
>>153465711
Either organic interest in a dark side show thanks to Maul, or Disney pulling the strings internally to create manufactured interest.

Maybe they are going ahead with season 2 and want to gaslight the people into thinking it's popular?
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Rewatching Clone Wars atm. Despite the fact there are thousands of Jedi running around, there are very few good lightsaber fights. They can't use Dooku too much, Greivous is too much of a jobber and there's only one Ventress.
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>>153465711
The gol is to hype up Star Wars, I mean thayre going to release the mandolorian movie in starwars one last shot.
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>>153465747
>Disney pulling the strings internally to create manufactured interest.
>Maybe they are going ahead with season 2 and want to gaslight the people into thinking it's popular?

I could see this after Kennedy taking shots at their decision making as she was exiting Lucasfilm. She was very openly frustrated at their unwillingness to move ahead with projects that aren't deemed safe, and it might have created enough headlines to force Disneys hand
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>>153465827
If it was Disney trying to create Mando hype, they would probably have put Mando at the top instead of The Acolyte of all things
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>>153465787
Probably why they made the Inquisitors in Rebels. Expendable lightsaber fight fodder who you don’t have to worry about killing off because they don’t show up anywhere else
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>>153465594
Somewhat related but after fucking off from star wars for seven years and coming back to Tales of X? I'm severely disappointed that they've barely done anything worthwhile. The inquisitor episodes fucking suck and every single one of these projects feel like they're meant to show off 3d animation more than anything else. I won't even bother with watching BB.
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>>153465540
>maul popping off
>star wars movie coming out in a few weeks
>star wars day in a few days
any or all of these probably have people deciding to check out other star wars shows they've missed out on
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>>153465827
>The gol
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I know at least half of you faggots are on the /v/ thread.
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>>153462855
>one dude dies in 2 seconds
>other one ends up a fart zombie
What's the point?
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>>153468557
And Maul will never get his revenge on Palps and Obi-Wan. But it's fun to watch
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>>153462303
Watching through it right now, boy does everything look so dark in it. The latter Harry Potter films look bright in comparison. lol
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Witwer said that the second season won't take too long to release as it's been in development for a while.
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>>153469003
You were all deceived
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>>153469003
Yes, they obviously made 20 episodes at once, which is the standard animation pipeline, and split that shit into 10 episodes to milk the goyim dry on that Disney+ subscription. Announcing Season 2 before Season 1 was even released was an obvious marketing strategy. They were always going to do it.
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Will Lucasfilm have the balls to make Devon look like this when she becomes an adult?
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>>153469376
No.
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>>153469376
>Tieler you let your wife go out like that?

"Yeah. . . . I don't actually get much say in the relationship. Sex is unreal though"
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>>153469376
Nope.

A good face is possible, but the attire is too revealing for Mouse Wars.
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>>153462303
>Now this is pod[redacted] racing

https://x.com/i/status/2049821620567482571
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Ahsoka Tano and Shaak Ti
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Why was there a shot of the stormtroopers speeder bike in episode 8 that had a very clear "HH" insignia on it?
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>>153470553
Hazbin hotel fan?
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Release order or chronological order?
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You shouldn't have made this thread with a spoiler OP. It's hard to find it in the catalog.

Anyway, seeing these Ahsoka Fortnite clips made me weirdly nostalgic. Reminded me of Kinect Star Wars and those wacky Star Wars Weekends dance offs. I miss this Ahsoka.
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>>153469376
Disney BANNED anything to do with slave Leia, and Boba Fett's ship called Slave I.
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>>153462303
Why do they keep making stories about character even though he was already killed off?... Twice?
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>>153470889
I think you would be missing out on some of the mysticism and intrigue of Phase 1 by going chronologically, but I also think it might actually be easier to follow by going chronologically, and the narrative definitely would flow much better without having to stop in the middle of the characters' stories to tell a prequel that doesn't really connect much narratively in the first place
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>>153470914
That's not true, both still get merchandise all the time
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>>153470926
This is before he was killed for real this time. There's a 15 year or so gap in his story. This show fills that gap. They also try to adapt Lucas's sequel ideas of Maul training Darth Talon.
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>>153470978
Not that anon but are the sith in it? Or is it just plant monsters and jihadi pirates?
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>>153471005
>They also try to adapt Lucas's sequel ideas of Maul training Darth Talon.
Didn't he kick somebody out of his office who wanted Talon to be against Maul?
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>>153471076
Never heard of it.
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>gets his work and characters stolen and bastardized by Hackloni
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>>153465540
Actual good story & Animation (Mostly Animation cause holy shit it looks good.)
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What's the point of this when we know maul jobs in one stroke to obi wan
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>>153471165
What characters? Also, he doesn't own any of them. All of the characters ever created for Star Wars by anyone are owned by Lucasfilm and they can do what they want with them. The guy was paid for his licensing job and that's that.
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>>153471206
It's about the journey. Plus there are wildcard new characters who have the potential to become big players in the franchise going forward.
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>>153471056
Sith are barely touched on whatsoever, but there's a dark side element to the Nihil that make them worthy antagonists moreso than a random pirate faction.

The plant monsters are more of a side-antagonist to fight. The story isn't really about them at all
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>>153471206
It's not about the destination it's about the journey
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>>153462586
Might I suggest estrogen
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>>153471206
What's the point of anything when everyone is going to die when our sun explodes?
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>>153462303
Didn't maul die in episode 1. Why is he getting a series
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>>153471346
Did you live under the rock for the past 14 years?
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>>153471346
Because he's an alien that apparently can survive being cut in half. His lower parts is all mechanical.
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>>153471387
I stopped following Star wars after episode 3. I tried watching 7 and it was just a worse version of 4
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>>153471406
George Lucas brought him back in The Clone Wars in 2012.
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rewriting shadow lord with ventress instead would make for a better show
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>>153471430
Holy fuck that's some stiff animation
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>>153471406
Fair enough
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Maul doesn't seem like the type of guy to talk as as calm and eloquent as he does. He sounds like he comes from Legacy of Kain.
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>>153471462
if you think that's bad you should've seen what they put in theaters
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>>153465540
It autoplays after catching up with Maul episodes.
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>>153467577
>I won’t even bother with watching BB.
Good, don’t. It’s filler.
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>>153469197
Yeah, that’s an unsurprisingly common strategy. Velma did that shit, too.
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Rewatching ROTJ. Jesus Christ, why does Leia look like she wants to murder Mon Mothma during the Endor briefing?
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>>153474280
>”You get to stand up there barely doing shit on the lines, meanwhile I have to be nearly ass naked tied to some oversized slug.”
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I don't care for the policeman and his son.
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>>153474850
I like Lawson, his kid's a fucking dingus that serves no purpose though. I thought Crow was maybe going to mindrape him into being a vegetable or something to serve as an excuse for Lawson to betray Daki, but nope.
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>>153474280
>Hates standing around doing nothing while everyone else gets caught up to speed
That's Anakin's girl
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>>153462303
>more fucking jedi
I'm beginning to think Order 66 complete failure.
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>>153474850
We need normal people like them to ground the story. The reaction of the son shows us how fucked up this all is fairly well.
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Funny how all of Palpatine's apprentices are bonafide aura farmers, but we have barely any scenes with Sheev himself styling on some poor fools.
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>>153474976
George himself said that at least 100 of them survived. We're nowhere near that.
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>>153475956
Sheevy P is too high level to deal with anyone not named Vader. Him coming to Mandalore to wipe the floor with Maul and Savage was a one-time event that's still fondly remembered years later
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>>153475956
He killed those 3 jedi masters and made Maul a PTSD ridden wreck after his capture.
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>>153474280
at that time she was the only other chick in the galaxy
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>>153477283
Maul battle the equivalent of a lightsaber fidget spinner.
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>Obi-Wan Kenobi
>Yoda
>Ahsoka Tano
>Cere Junda
>Cal Kestis
>Eeko-Dio Daki
>Devon Izara
How many more Jedi purge survivors are there?
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>>153477550
https://numidianprime.wordpress.com/2023/06/06/jedi-survivors-running-the-numbers/
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>>153477594
Boy the empire sucks at their job
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>>153462303
>Are you excited?
I can't be, knowing how miserably Maul's story ends.
>Did you like it so far?
Objectively I think it's a pretty shallow story, both Maul's crew and the other characters feel wildly underdeveloped and Maul himself feels too comically incompetent to get invested in. Subjectively it's the only thing Disney Wars has put out in recent memory that's been at least mildly entertaining to me because of the action sequences and staging, which alone puts it above any of the live action movies.
>Any theories?
What's the point? Filoni clearly cares too much about Devon for her to be anything but the next Ahsoka he's setting up, and Maul is preordained to fail.
>Any idea
Anon, it's Disney. Considering the Acolyte, Kenobi and every Rey movie, I have no reason to expect competence from them.

>>153462404
It'll never happen by the way, they don't have the balls.
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>>153477617
it's like it wasn't Palpatine's job to utterly destroy the Jedi, but to render them impotent as the Empire found it's feet.
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>>153463912
Yeah. The guy is basically a one-man explanation of why the Republic-era Jedi were fucked even before Sideous got his tendrils into high power, if Windu telling Dooku to shut the fuck up and do his job when they uncovered a corrupt senator together wasn't a big enough hint
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>>153471107
...there was a timeline where George lived to see his visions through, and was hated almost as much as Kathleen for them.

Whills would've been canon too, don't forget.

>>153475956
Palpatine's status as emperor is a CONSTANT flex on every other being in the galaxy, anything else is redundant.
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>>153477617
There were 10 000 Jedi
Now there are 100
That is 1% left, that's a more efficient purge than any in human history.
Besides, more important than killing the Jedi was destroying their political capital, which was completely accomplished.
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>>153477617
I mean, it reigned unchallenged until the events of the OT, everything Luke did would've ultimately been worth all of jack and shit if Vader hadn't hurled Palpy down the big hole, and even then Palpy managed to both outlive all the Skywalkers and cuck them out of their own family name.

No Jedi managed to impede the Empire in a meaningful way, leadership ultimately decapitated itself.
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>>153477594
>>153477617
IIRC it's always been stated that up to 100 Jedi survived. The current numbers are not close yet.
>Kirak Infil’a
>Dagan Gera
>Eeth Koth
>Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader
Those characters shouldn't even be included and 3 of them were killed within the Great Jedi Purge time frame anyway.
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>>153477665
Yeah, but we don't get many showings of WHY he should be feared or avoided like plague. I get it that it would cheapen his villain status, but I really wish to see peak Palpatine going all out since the guy is regarded as the peak darksider for a reason
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>>153462303
I appreciate them trying to make inquistors actually a threat in this show. They should do the same with stormtroopers now and bring in purge troopers from the games. They're too cool not to have.
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>>153477843
I wish we had seen paratroopers and galactic marines in animation.
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>>153462303

Star Wars is highly satanic because it prommotes the false religion of Buddhism
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>>153478020
Isn't it more Daoism?
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>>153477718
Eh, I look at it from the other way around specifically because I'm too familiar with the dangers of Vader Fatigue. The way I see it, Palpatine exclusively styled on the only people who actually mattered in his grand conflict: Anakin, Dooku, Yoda and Maul when he got uppity. Avoiding overuse of him (and critically, avoiding repeated instances of people as insignificant as Ezra resisting him; one Faustian bargain dodged is fine, two is not enough, three is where your credibility as a villain starts to wane) enhances his mystique, in my opinion.
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>>153478020
Good, Christianity is an Israeli psyop that should be shunned like the plague. If American is the spiritual successor of Rome, then the logical outcome is to start throwing Christians to the lions again.

One nation under free men, not some carpenter on a stick.
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>>153477709
the purge was a one moment event when order 66 was declared and anakin stormed the temple. anything after what's shown in rots is just clean up operations.
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the problem with order 66 survivors is that every damn thing features one

vader comics feature multiple
all three tales series features one
bad batch features one
shadow lord features one
rise of kylo ren features one
the mandalorian is about one
kenobi features some
etc etc
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>>153478042

Daoism has neither the light nor dark being good or evil. It's gay as hell
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>>153478378
>>153478565
The scene in which Skywalker goes in and murders a room full of younlings is my actual favorite scene in Star Wars. I'm not being ironic. It's the exact scene in which you can tell there is no going back. Annikin is fully committed to the dark side. It's so fucking blesk that I will admit something like Robot Chicken can make it funny by contrast of how the tone of the prequel are.

My point being is if you retcon that a youngling survive you take away from the whole moment.
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>>153477550
>>153477594
>Qu Rahn
He will be back too and (You) are going to like it.
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>>153478565
this is more of a problem of star wars stories having too many lightsaber wielders and also being set pre-OT. you kinda have to have a surviving jedi if you want the le cool lightsaber fight. this is also why andor is goated because it has none of that autism
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Favourite Star Wars vidya?
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>>153479054
Force unleashed off top
Then pod racing
I know a lot of people would say those clone games, but for whatever reason I never played those.

There's this N64 star wars game, I think the main character was this OC they really wanted to be a thing. The game was so dark, I don't mean theme wise I mean like I could hardly see where I was going.
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>>153479054
empire at war
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>>153479054
Dark Forces 2
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>>153479054
Republic Commando. Obligatory fuck Shit Batch, btw.
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>>153480393
Excited over the new Black Series?
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The Acolyte is nowhere near as bad as Kenobi and Book of Boba Fat.
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>>153481566
It's because it has higher highs. But the lows? Brother those get real low.
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>>153481366
It's very good. Much, much, much better than the awful Shit Batch Hunter mold they used. Now Hot Toys also needs to fix their terrible inaccurate RCs that are based on Shit Batch.
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>>153481656
At least try talking like an adult
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>>153481676
You are in a Star Wars thread on a 4chan cartoon board. Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>153465540
ME
GETTING REDEEMED
BECAUSE I FUCKING TOLD YOU IT WAS GOOD
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>>153481701
child
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>>153471206
What's the point of you coming here to make the same question in every thread?
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is this a good stance?
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>>153465540
>>153465747
What >>153474044 said
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>>153477629
>knowing how miserably Maul's story ends
Last episode is a reminder of how that was a good ending for his tragedy
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>>153481748
So how will Filoni finish the Acolyte? Will he make it about Ahsoka?
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>>153482093
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
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>>153474280
carrey didn't get to snort that day
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Maul is fast running out of Mandalorians
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>>153482852
Why do mandos never use beskar besides in the mando show?
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>>153470909
Sabrina Carpenter would be a great Ahsoka
fucking fight me
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>>153482907
Beskar isn't a common material. It's like asking why aren't all LotR dwarves wearing Mithril. Pure, Blasterproof Beskar is rare af
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>>153471165
Ostrander wrote a lot of terrible shit.
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>>153481586
The lows are absolutely not as low as BoBF or Kenobi
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>>153481566
I don't even think it's as bad as Ahsoka. It is bad, though.
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>>153483223
Episodes 3 and 7 seem to differ
>>153483265
Ahsoka is not bad though
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>>153479054
either empire at war or starfighter but desu I’ve enjoyed pretty much every star wars game I've ever played
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>>153483276
Ahsoka is absolutely bad.
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>>153483363
Nah
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>>153483363
Ahsoka has 3 decent episodes in the middle, Kenobi is dumpster fire from start to finish
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>>153483707
The Vader scenes are the true saving grace
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>>153483707
>shadow warrior
>good
clone wars key jangling with dogshit costumes and sets is the lowest of the low
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>>153483707
The best Ahsoka episodes were 3, 4 and 6. Space battle in 3 was super fan and well directed. The entirety of 4 was good, Red Forest planet was an interesting location, there was actual momentum in that episode with the heroes needing to hurry up to stop the bad guys. Duels were pretty fun. Ahsoka getting bodied by Baylan was cool, and Sabine's choice in the end was actually unexpected. Too bad nothing came out of it! Dave Filoni has become the master at fumbling interesting plots and snuffing out any intentional for conflict and character drama. Episode 6 was just well directed, I looked up who did it, and turns out it was some woman who directed a lot of Mad Men. It's like the first real director to work on Star Wars slop.
1 and 2 were just boring. 7 and 8 were atrocious in every regard, not only directing, plot and action, but retroactively making the few interesting episodes irrelevant and not following up on what they set up.
And 5 was the worst of them all. Those Clone Wars flashbacks were painful to watch. Looked like they were made on a shoe string budget, and the entire conflict and lesson was forced.

All in all, Ahsoka should have been animated. Live-action Ahsoka makes me cringe and sad. Sure, we'd lose Baylan and Shin's good performances (RIP Ray Stevenson), but Ahsoka wouldn't have been butchered as she did by Dawson and that little goblina.
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>>153483864
>(RIP Ray Stevenson)
The way I see it the show died with him
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>>153483864
And I forgot to mention, Kevin Kiner cooked with the music. I never skipped credits in Ahsoka. Quite a few bangers throughout the entire show. Conversely, I can't remember shit from Kenobi, ACKolyte and most of Mandoverse shit with the exception of Mando main theme and FETT BOOOOOBA FETT BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBA FETT. It's like they used some royalty free elevator music in the other shows.
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>>153484045
So even though there are elements that I liked and a few episodes that I thought were okay, this show still makes me seethe because it ruined Ahsoka. Just the sight of that shitty cosplay they try to pass for "definitive Ahsoka" triggers me. Fuck that.
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>>153483848
>vaugeposting
he's a shit character
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>>153484324
FUCK
>vagueposting
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>>153478630
If only the kikes at the house of mouse did not get their hands on SW the imp remnants would still have an actual competent inquisitor in stead of the DEI jobbers they have today.
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>>153479054
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. N64. Thought i also really like Jedi Academy for its lightsabre physics and Empire At War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsM3o0Vk0Js
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>>153478630
>>153484361
>a man finds his way in the galaxy and the strength to defeat his enemies after listening to the teachings of the quran- i mean master Qu'Rahn
uh huh..
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Daki dies and Devon agrees to join Maul but tells him the Outlawsons have to come too.
What does he do with them?
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>>153463912
Eat shit cops
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>>153486377
rapes lawson snr as a show of dominance but lets devon keep her new boytoy
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>>153463912
I liked the part when Lawson was pissed off at Daki fucking up his life, then Daki told him to not dwell on the past.

Should have shot him then and there.
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>>153483848
I really don't understand what the point of these characters were supposed to be. Why they joined up with an empire remnant that wanted to exterminate them, and why deciding to retire on an empty abandoned planet in another galaxy was a great idea either. His leaving was kind of convenient.
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>>153487358
>Why they joined up with an empire remnant that wanted to exterminate them
except they clearly did not?
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>>153483363
Ahsoka seemed very pointless. Like the whole thing was just a vehicle to make a lot of live action callbacks to Rebels.But there was no real plan in mind behind the whole thing and no plan to finish the story either. It was just a whole series of meaningless filler involving a shitload of characters that were supposed to be dead.
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>>153487392
So you saw a different show where Baylan and Shin didn't join up with Thrawn's faction, that wanted to bring back the empire?

What show did you see?
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>>153470553
horus heresy?
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>>153478703
Disney wants lightsabers, but doesn't want prequels. So they are stuck in this bad spot where it has to be after Episode 3 because Prequels are icky. So all we get are random survivors in the times of the empire....forever.
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>>153477843
I want to see a show about Vader hunting down Jedi already. Fuck his knockoff minions.
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>>153487465
perhaps they think thrawn's empire will be different or perhaps they think theyre not jedi and safe like all of the hundred other lightsaber wielders that worked for the empire lmfao
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>>153484045
I want to smooch each and every one of her moles
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>>153487603
If anything you'll get an anthology of self-contained tales from fugitive jedi pov with Vader showing up for the key moments but never as the MC
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>>153486377
Maul is running out of goons, so they'd be a good addition anyway
Keeping the kid is a good idea anyway to keep emotionally manipulating Devon.
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>>153466178
Legends Clone Wars comics had Dooku having a small group of Dark Sider Jedi serving him aside from Ventress. Shame that they were never brought over to The Clone Wars show.
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>>153490049
They were job guys anyway, could be anyone

Disney canon tried something like that with Bedlam Raiders. Just strong enough to fight Cal Kestis, not strong enough to mean anything

Also the idea of a Dark Jedi is very underused these day
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>>153484117
Adult Ahsoka is STACKED
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>>153491185
>Remember what they took from you
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>>153478565
>>153478613
Sigh. This again?
>>153475990
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>>153482852
>Maul keeps getting his ass handed to him by inquisitors
Fraud
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6LRgEfJyRQ
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How long after Revenge of the Sith is this set anyway? Less than five years but more than one is my guess.
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>>153491885
It's a little more than one year
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lucas hairline is unreal
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>>153478565
The solution is the return of the Jedi order.
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>>153482852
>Underdogs
Fuck Disney. I won't even pirate this anymore.
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you know when you think about it the whole rule of two thing as explained in the eu is kind of fucking retarded.



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