Is Zoe ACTUALLY meant to be any younger than Zack or did Ryan Ottley just get Zack's age wrong? He already got the dad's race and hair color wrong. The timeline really doesn't work out for Zack being as old as mark but he still grew a whole foot taller inbetween the invincible war and the viltrumite war anyway.
>>153462530Viltrumites only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
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coming soon to phone near you
>>153462631I saved sommuch god damn tech jacket pics
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>They literally looked at the character and went "Ew, another white male" and did their "due diligence" to turn him into a her
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>>153462718No, faggot
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>>153462718asian male
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>>153462821I hate this practice where people hired to work on someone else's creation tamper with it. Especially when they are narcissistic like this.
Tech Jacket will be Invincible VS dlc, she will have an E.J. Su alternaate skin, and it will look just like this
>>153463155he's called co-creator for a reason
>>153462718>another white maleKirkman's quote was from way back and explicitly only mentioned Walker
>>153463175He'd be called "I was kicked to the streets and now I work at Starbucks" if I were Kirkman. You bust your ass arting and networking, you bend over backwards gain favour, you finally get your lucky break. You get to present your idea to the world. Then some ephemeral motherfucker that was hired to be a drone and has done none of the work you did goes "I will inject my identity/beliefs/fetishes into this character teehee!" like a parasite. So now your idea isn't your own anymore and you are carrying some asshole on your back.
>>153463413you don't want to know what the comics would look like if kirkman was designing everything on his own
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https://imagecomics.fandom.com/wiki/Invincible_Recommended_Reading_Orderif this timeline is right then there's no way for tech jacket to be close to mark in age. tech jacket would have to take place years before invincible since invincible starts with mark getting close to graduating.
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>>153462658Is there an original image to this or no?
zoe was made for savage viltrumite breeding
>>153463783that is the original
>>153462530>and hair color wrongHe dyes it at the end of the original miniseries
>>153463413Kirkman didn’t draw the comic anon. He needed someone to draw it. The design of Techjacket is all EJ Su’s work.
>>153463807We all alreadry read the rape fapfic, anon
>>153463822ottley art depicted it as natural light brown hair and not bleached blonde hair with visible dark roots. which carried over into the show and now we need to explain where zoe's black hair came from.
announce her for invincible vs already so i can start planning her getting ryona'd by Anissa
>>153464366>pseudo-Rugrats style
>>153464366>gets knocked out and knocked up
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Zoe was the only thing from this season with talking about, which leads me to believe that it was done specifically so there's something for people to talk about and share.
>>153464681>flash to her getting filled with kradd's viltrumite semen
>>153465117if you went by this board then abortion was the only thing to talk about
Is she gonna be part of the main cast now, or will she just be left aside?
>>153465831kirkman talking about not setting something up to be resolved in a spinoff in the same breath as tech jacket as well as exta scenes with oliver means she'll at least get as much of an expanded role as shrinking rae got. plus kirkman likes her more than Zack and they gotta do this scene next season
i don't know how it feels to be a zack fan but it can't be great to know kirkman and everyone else who worked on tech jacket thinks zoe is better.
>>153463815looks traced over something from real life, but i trust you
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>>153466900Kirkman thinks Zoe was better in the context of the showSu just thinks Zoe is cuteKirkman himself said Zack himself is a well rounded character in his own series but he didn't stick out much in Viltrumite War which is why he opted for the switch
>>153467543Here's a better questionThen why have a tech jacket at all?
>>153467543>>153467781emilio and khary thought tech jacket was woefully stuck in invincible's shadow and the change was the best way to fix that. especially now that invincible got popular there's gotta be way to shore up the little brother ips that were piggybacking off of it. especially tech jacket being like a first draft.
>>153467896pfffffffnow she's just cheap fapbait
>>153467924better than how other female characters in invincibe can't even accomplish that.
>>153467959brutal
>>153467971Damn didn't almost catch thatGood job anon
You can feel the writing team going through these comics and just cringing their ass off at the "cool" twists Kirkman threw in. "Can we just make Tech a girl? This whole book is retarded." Some dude, most likely.
>>153468750I just miss the hype moments and aura of the early Tech Jacket comics. The cuckshit going too far even by Kirkman standards ensured he was gonna get DEI swapped for the greater good.That said, Fem Jacket and Oliver feels like a less cancerous Mark and Amber in terms of bait
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proud of zoe and her transition
>>153462530make zack a manlet again
>>153468899comic oliver would never have human friends
>>153470820Does Eve count?
>>153471641i'd feel bad for you if you had to call an in-law a "friend"
>Watch an e-celeb's video on controversial Invincible takes>Goes to the Tech Jacket gender swap>He explicitly says "Do you REALLY give a shit about Tech Jacket? You don't care about Tech Jacket."Look, you can say Zoe is cute, you can say Zack didn't much in the Invincible comic, you can call people sexist or whatever, etc but I'm gonna be frankZoe on a fundamental basis is no different compared to literally EVERY SINGLE botched adaptation of a characterWhat makes her different compared to stitched up Barakapool, female mute Taskmaster, Mandarin but he's an actor, Cassandra Cain in name only and never shuts up, etc?Literally the "You don't give a crap about Tech Jacket" "argument" applies to whatever criticism was thrown toward those characters being botched, valid or not
>>153471894zoe is better than those adaptation because they were hated by normies that didn't even know the source material while zoe was an instant hit.
>>153471937>instant hitA significant amount of people thought she was a nothingburger who didn't contribute (which is untrue but the support class doesn't get mainstream acclaim anyways)But fine, let's play it that gameYou know how Miguel O'Hara's fans (and Ben Reilly to an extent) REALLY don't like how the Spider-Verse films have changed the perception of the character even though the normal people are totally cool with it?
>>153471994the powerscaling audience are vocal online but them slandering oliver didn't really impact his character likeability with average fans, all that really matters is people think a character is fun to watch and show oliver is a character people actually like unlike comic oliver people liked zoe enough for a fanart explosion and even zack got more fanrt because of zoe than he got before she existed. I'd say zack still benefit from the whole ordeal. better than people questioning why he's there just to be mark lite.
>>153470205>Zoe blushing at ZackIs this selfcest?
>>153467543So he switched a more capable male character for dude-bait to "get Tech Jacket out of Mark's shadow"? By making Tech Jacket not only weaker than the rest of the team, but also a cringing, incompetent girl who really couldn't do anything on her own, even fire her lasers. She needed positive reinforcement from Alan all the damn time. She never took the fight to anyone. Every one-on-one was a viltrumite going after her while she hung back like a scared little girl, or just getting the jump on her because she was busy watching more competent male characters fight, and not watching her damn back. Make this shit make sense. She was basically a damsel in distress like 90% of the time. It was like Tien fighting Cell in DBZA and shouting at #18 "WHY ARE YOU EVEN *HERE*?!"
>>153462530I only like foid jacket because of the loli porn that will be made of her
>>153472659"Leave or blow yourself up, I don't care which!"
>>153472659zack was as much of or more of a jobber during the war. he was there only as comedic reliefhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YHL2-h-gyA
>>153472910Oh fuck off with that bullshit, you secondary.
asians
>>153472910Already watched>Points out how Zack actually gets to fight a few Viltrumites and doesn't call out for Allen to help every five seconds>Still insist Zoe did as well as Zacklollmaosuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
>>153473429>secondary>when complaining about zoe being less "capable" when she did more in the final battle than just get knocked out and towed away by space racer
>>153473465>darted Viltrumites Allen could already gibSuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
>>153473459zoe's best achievments were all in the battle over viltrume where she saved the life of the MVP, bodychecked krieg, and had direct evidence of shooting viltrumites with poison. zack's only actions in that entire battle were supposedly shooting the poison off-panel, getting saved by allen, and then spending the rest of the battle unconscious.
>>153473496cute
>>153473479becaause allen can't do that without the poison you dumb powerscaler
>>153473504foolish secondary
stick to tiktok edits
>>153462530Amazon Show. Diversity Quotas. Don't overthink it. Please.
>>153473768Rottley is a hack
zoe without shorts
why does she use shorts?
>>153462530Tech jacket(Zoe) has the most porn out of all invincible characters to date KEK
>>153475060no shitshe's the only woman without those god awful facelines or a fucking man nose
>>153475060my girl is moving up in the world so fast
>>153475081It is kind of funny that it only took a month
>>153475106Most of that is AI>>153475036Pockets
>>153475288Oliver learning from his brother to be a good cuck and raise the man who dismembered him's kid.
>>153475036the suit is basically her skin now so she's basically naked without the shorts
>>153463629Tech Jacket basically can't take place in the Invincible universe, or it's a highly truncated version of the story.Kirkman just wanted to smash his toys together and didn't give a shit how stupid it looked to anybody who actually read the original series.
>>153462623Can't believe Kradd missed out on this. No matter what Zoe must be mind broken by viltrumite cock.
>>153462746I find it funny everyone assumed they would drop this story for a ZoexOliver ship,like Cuckman and his Amazon overlords wouldnt jump at the chance to shove akward dyke romance down our throats
>>153463093You know whatThis is an improvementTHANK YOU KIRKMANc0da makes this canon
>>153477591if they were shoving lesbians down your throat then they would have at least referenced princess lin. which they didn't.
>>153462623They should totally breed Zoe!
>>153477640Theyre not retarded, theyll gotta warm you up to the character first before they do the rugpull. Also i guarantee when Lin shows up,(itll probably come packaged with Oliver exploring his "tastes") its gonna turn it into a tranny allegory where everyone calls Zoe a bigot for not wanting to suck green psuedo penis. Theres layers to the subversion anon.
>>153467378>>153467284>>153472695Just IMAGINE the smell after she's been cooped up in her suit for days!
>>153471937She's still not any better or worse than any other "In Name Only" adaptationThe sentiment people throw with "Nobody cares" is no different than the shit casuals throw at actual fans who get legitimately disappointed seeing a character they like be botched and likely to be fucked by synergy in the future
>>153478392the suit automatically cleans her of bacteria>>153478680she's not in name only, she's rule 63
>>153478739>she's not in name only, she's rule 63That's like saying female Taskmaster isn't name only
>>153478841mcu taskmaster was mute, had a different backstory, and the way the power worked was different. you are meant to assume Zoe has the same backstory as zack and they didn't even bother explaining how the suit works to show onies just like how the invincible comics didn't/
>>153478941She still has mannerisms distinct from ZackHer dynamic with the dad they share and even Allen are also different compared to Zack's
>>153479011because a girl can't say the exact same things as a boy still have everything make sense. And apparently Kirkman's onnly reference point for how teen girls talk is his own daughter. they didn't have to adapt the allen friendship but they did and they adapted the getting ignored by nolan and mark gag because that was something that happened to Zack.
>>153479074But she's still *not* Zack the same way Shrinking Rae isn't Shrinking Ray It's an adaptation yes, there are ties to the source material yes, but the character is near unrecognizable I'm not saying gender swaps are inherently wrong or adaptations necessarily have to be 1:1 or it's all part of some "woke mind virus", I'm saying Zoe isn't the character Zack's fans wanted and saying "Nobody cares" or "You don't ACTUALLY give a crap" is an asinine excuse that quickly turns people into hypocrites the second a niche character they like essentially gets replaced in an adaptation
>>153479241there's just an ocean between what zoe is and "in name only" adaptations like mcu taskmaster and barakapool
>>153471894>erm big studios shat all over things you liked, you can't complain about a different studio shitting over this thing now!No, fuck you and your faggot argumentation. Midwits like you deserve literal crucifixion.
>>153479684>No, fuck you and your faggot argumentation. Midwits like you deserve literal crucifixionAnon, he was against people who were complaining that people were complaining about the Tech Jacket change
>>153479425And it's no better or worse than people saying "You don't give a shit about Taskmaster" when people criticized that adaptation
>>153480375problem is that nobody took those people seriously with taskmaster becase mcu task master was just that widely hated by general audiences. tons of people not aware of taskmaster hated the adaptation so it couldn't be restricted to writing off comic taskmaster fans. it's its hard to make that comparison because it is genuinely hard to imagine any way in which mcu taskmaster could have been a well liked character.
>>153480578Okay, Ben ReillyGeneral audiences thought the joke in Spider-Verse was funny but his fans thought it did the character dirty and wrongly attributed the character to something he actually wasn't.Hell, MCU Mandarin has fans who will try to argue the revision was done for the betterAre fans of the comic Mandarin supposed to be in the wrong especially how they're repeatedly told the comic Mandarin is too problematic even though the comics (and other material) have actually managed to distance itself from the character's yellow peril inspired roots without sacrificing his role as a villain?
>>153480703they are dumb if they are still complaining about trevor slattery after he went off and did his own thing and they got thrown a bone by the shang chi movie.
>>153480828>and they got thrown a bone by the shang chi movie.Wenwu is still the Mandarin in name only as a character and only exists as a compromiseThe Rings are nothing like they were in the comics as wellHell, not even in What If they did an episode where he actually got to fight Iron Man
>>153481053Ghost hasn't fought ironman either but ghost fans haven't been so vocal. and they have Ironman Vr as the perfect example of how female ghost can actually be done perfectly. Ironman VR Ghost is honestly the kind of adaptation I would comare Zoe to.
>>153479579zoe has a nice ass in this game
>>153462530I wish Zoe got raped by Viltrumites
Why is tech jacket so weak?
>>153462530Why is she not Zacks height?
>>153483274They're not weak, they were just up against fucking Viltrumites Zack threw a ship to a sun and Zoe's still Earth's strongest non-Viltrumite hero
>>153483311she's the height zack was in his own comic. i think ryan ottley just gave him way too extreme a growth spurt for the amount of time that actually passed in canon.
>>153473435Ottley must have never seen this panel
