the biggest missed opportunity in all these scooby doo remakes and reboots is they never do anything with the shaggy/fred dynamic
They already joked about how it doesn't work
fred and shaggy would have never been friens irl
>>153463320They did in Be Cool. One of the coolest aspects of the show is mixing up the dynamic of pairs each episode. They bantered a lot throughout the show but there was an episode (stealin stan) that dedicated to the pair.
i like to think shaggy and fred would bro down with a beer and watch sports
>>153463320We're not out of gas man. There's a full tank in the back.
>>153463320The best dynamic is Shaggy, Velma, Scooby, Flimflam and Scrappy.
>>153464804This feels like a family guy skitVelma "I like your outfit, your so brave green bandana with a purple dress. I wish I had the courage to throw anything together and call it an outfit" Daphne "me brave? Look at you so brave to wear a skirt with those thick thighs" Meanwhile Shaggy "hey I like your neckerchief" Fred "thanks" Men ~We know how to be friends
>>153463389Shaggy wouldn't be friends with Daphne or Velma either.He's been paired off with them before but it's not like he has any common ground with them either.He's only really part of the gang because he's Scooby's de facto owner.
>>153465291Didn't he do the whole 34 with just Daphne?
>>15346533613 ghost*Jesus, what's up with me today
>>153463320Am I glad he's frozen in there and that we're out here.
make the have sex with each other
>>153465291i think shaggy and fred would be friends honestly, male friend groups are always people who on paper you think wouldn't get along
>>153465291But why is Scooby there in the first place? Fred was just autistic about having a dog on his gang?
>>153465358Nah I'm sure he's done the "34" with Daphne a lot too.
>>153463320My pitch would be that Fred and Shaggy were childhood friends, but one moves away and they reunite when the find each other in college. Shaggy has an old Volkswagen Westfalia he wants to work on and upgrade, and Fred offers his help as a way for the two to reunite and get to know each other.The payoff for all of this is both of them passing a joint on the roof of the car in the wilderness as they gaze up at the stars and pontificate about life and their relationships
>>153468355What would it be like 69 but only one party is active?
>>15346970834.5 and I'll pay you back later
Seemingly there're already leaked images of the Scooby-Doo Origins Netflix series.
they keep Shaggy around because knows how to get weed.
>>153463409Be Cool is easily the best Scooby-Doo show. >>153469853Post them, please.
>>153465336>>153468355Source?
>Kamton Kumpe has been cast as a character named Red Harris in 'Scooby-Doo! The Origin'.RedHerringbros...
zoinks
>>153470432Im actually pissed that Im not working on this show. Ive always wanted to work on a live action Scooby-Doo show because I feel like Im the only one who gets the heart of these characters and wont turn the show into Riverdale/Euphoria-tier trash
>>153470432but where's his shaggy beard? Where is his trademark shaggy beard?
>>153463320Make them gayMake them shaggy is the top
>>153465161For some reason I see famly guy doing the Scooby got rabies joke
>>153465291Shaggy and Daphne is the best pairing in the show
>>153465358We all know buddy
>>153463354Why not?
>>153470432Fuck I can't find it now, but does anyone have that pic of that one wrestler who really wanted to play Shaggy in the 90s? I wanted to post it as a comparison but I totally forgot who it was
>>153470432He's way too handsome to play Shaggy
>>153463389>>153465291>>153468090Shaggy fits as Daphne's eccentric peer. A guy from another wealthy family like hers who know each other thanks to sharing the same social circle. From there she links to Fred because she likes him, and Fred's mystery solving interests lead him to recruit Velma.Then the group stays together because they all decided to spend the summer going across the US and subsequently are basically stuck together.
>>153463320How come there's no Fred x Shaggy Yaoigirls?
>>153472598Because women are attracted to the emotional and social dynamics just as much as the physical and since those two have nothing going on their is nothing for the fujos to latch on to unless they come up with it themselves.
>>153463354Not to sound gay, but why doesn't it work though?
>>153473860they're both too mild mannered
>>153463320>>153470755>>153473860They have nothing in common. They aren't even friends I don't think. They're just in the same friend group.>>153465291Daphne can be friends with anyone, that's why she's popular. Velma's understanding and patient, nerds and slackers are friends all the time. Meanwhile Fred is the strict and disciplined kind that is the antithesis of Shaggy. They wouldn't even work as an odd couple because that requires the straight-laced guy to be a bit of a pushover, which Fred is not, or the slacker to be devious, which Shaggy is not.
>>153463320The group would be a lot more cohesive if they were either all girls or all boys. Or possibly younger. As it stood, people like them might, but usually don't hang out together. They could be school friends who go out to a dance or to watch a movie together. Not the type of friends who go on a multi-day (month) road trip.
>>153474648>>153474712To be fair it started in 1969 friend groups weren't the same back then.
>>153463320They prioritized the funny dog and his odd owner, a sham because it would have been funny Fred trying to train Scoob as a guard dog.>>153463389By today's pop culture standards, maybe, but the gang was inspired by The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. And in that time, school athletes were not like the bully jocks that TV makes them see,Furthermore, it was established in the og cartoon that Shaggy was in a sports club, gymnastics, or track, I believe.
>>153475898>Furthermore, it was established in the og cartoon that Shaggy was in a sports club, gymnastics, or track, I believe.Don't worry! Shaggy's the swingingest gymnast in school.
>>153475957Also, In Bedlam in the Big Top>You forgot I'm a track man. I can really run, and fast!
>>153463389Aren't they based on an actual group of friends?
>>153465291People forget before the Internet you had to hangout with people just because you would be bored out of your mind otherwise so you'd make friends with people you wouldn't expect to
>>153465336And before that Shaggy and Daphne had a show where they traveled the world on her private jet
>>153476091I had never heard this before, but the internet says they were supposedly based on the characters of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. Haven't seen any actual proof that this was the creators' inspiration/intent, so I guess it could be one of those speculations that just gains a ton of steam. After all, if that was the idea from the beginning, where did the extra guy come from (before they decided not to use him)? Seems more like just shared contemporary teen archetypes, like in Archie comics (which came out before the Dobie Gillis book).
>>153476211I thought the scrapped guy was supposed to be based on Chatsworth from Dobie Gillis?
>>153470680>>153472598I guess as others have said there wasn't much in terms of their dynamic despite the many iterations. Though there are some that do ship Shaggy and Fred. But it's nowhere near as popular compared to Daphne/Velma
>>153463389>>153465291We've fallen particularly far if people think those with different personalities/interests can't be friends. Even back in the early '00s I had friends who were very different from one another. Because you grew up together, you lived near each other etc. Maybe the internet has fucked that so everybody just stays in their echo chambers that reinforce disdain for anyone different to them.
>>153476211>>153476091Joe Ruby and Ken Spears, the creators of Scooby Doo, were on the Stu's Show podcast a few years ago and they explained that originally they based the characters on the Archies, and that was their original pitch. But Joe Barbera told them to rework it because he didn't like the Archies, so they rewrote the characters to be more like the ones from Dobie Gillis. It had to be teenagers because that's what CBS wanted.
>>153476716Thanks for saying the primary source, internet search sucks too much now for me to bother to wade through for too long.
>>153475957>Watch me swooce right in
>>153463389Shaggy likes chilling and fun that doesn't put his life in real danger, meanwhile Fred always likes being on the go and probably has niche hobbies that aren't relaxing and sometimes potentially dangerous. Shaggy likes being a spectator while Fred likes being a participant. I think that dynamic can have them be functional friends to a degree.I can see them both being into super sentai and hero stuff in general. Pro-wrestling.Shaggy enjoys seeing fearless heroes in outlandish scenarios, but in fake/controlled environments where there's no real danger, Fred wants to make it a reality.On paper, Shaggy shouldn't like how stressful mystery solving is, yet they're part of the team and do it anyway. Maybe he just has enough trust in Fred's leadership or their friendship, and that Fred has the situation under control with his plan.
They would dominate the focus too much, there's a reason they keep them separated most the time.
>>153463389They don't even have to be framed as friends at the start. Can just be a jock and his drug dealer.
It's funnier and more interesting if Shaggy and Fred are already good pals. Doesn't need explaining
>>153470680Do you not remember how Shaggy eats? He can deepthroat the meatiest and largest of cocks in one go with absolute ease. He is a power bottom.
at this point every single permutation of the gang should have been explored. what would scooby, velma and daphne get up to as a trio? i want to know!
>>153478853Fred with Scooby?
>>153474648>Daphne can be friends with anyone,This
3P with Daphne
