Chapter 102: Page 12We all know that, Coyote.https://www.gunnerkrigg.com
>>153475736Did we, though?
>>153475736>See Annie for 3 seconds>already know she's gonna fuck shit up to biblical proportions
>>153475749>Annie arrivesThis is the beginning of the end!
Zimmy's plan: tell everyone who came in politely that she's fine and in no danger so they can all fuck off back to the court.
>>153475736Oh thank God this shit is ending
>>153475736I'm assuming she takes drastic measures, insulated from the ability to feel bad for them by Coyote's.But when Kat does what is necessary to stop her, Zimmy's still gonna pull a "I knew you'd kill me, I've always known you had it out for me, you wicked girl!"A real guilt trip.
How can you defend Zimmy after this stunt?
>>153475749Super autism is contagious when you're in a world of the mind
>>153475828And it will all be Annie's fault somehow.
>>153475829Who is defending her?Annie, I guess.But Annie is retarded.
>>153475736Okay so the entire justification for our protagonists actions since the distortion was created was based on a false assumption. Annie just ruins everything again.
>>153475914what do you mean
>>153475914The more I've seen of how Jenny operates with Jack and her 'friends', the more I think that whole accusation scene was planned from the beginning. She chose the location but was quick to blame Annie.
>>153475914Zimmy sure thinks she's doing something bad, needing Coyote to remove her guilt.
>>153476014It probably wasn't pre-planned, unless the witches are somehow better at predicting Annie than Omega is, but Jenny was able to spin the situation to her advantage, because unlike Annie, Jenny is pretty smart.
>>153476023This likely has nothing to do with the distortion itself, but rather what Zimmy did before. The thing she thought Kat would kill her for and what the court wouldn't like her doing. She could have been referring to planning to create the distortion, even back then, of course, but that doesn't feel right to me. For one, the distortion as it exists now is a product of Coyote colliding with Zimmy. We know that in other timelines the distortion still happens and that it normally has disastrous consequences, but does Zimmy know that? It's unclear. Zimmy knew about Omega and Omega's powers, but did she use Omega to see her own future? It seems a bit far-fetched. Additionally, would she think Kat would kill her just for planning something? Kat wouldn't kill anyone, even in self defense, as we saw. Lastly, Omega told Jack in secret what Zimmy did. Would it need to have been a secret if it was just about the distortion? Would Omega have needed to die to hide that?
>>153476087Oh, also, my alternate theory for the bad thing Zimmy did is that she released the whitelegs, which was kinda semi-confirmed by the chapter called whitelegs that came right after
>>153475736I'm deeply out of touch with this comic, but somehow Annie ruining everything again doesn't surprise me.Same as it ever was, eh?
>>153476195Sorry, it was called "Spider Legs", not Whitelegs.
>>153476087This seems to directly contradict the text of the comic that was posted. She can have both an unrelated dark secret, AND feel bad about her and Coyote's distortion trapping people.
>>153475736>Something is going to happen! >Why the fuck would anything happen
>>153476212It always comes across as less Annie ruining everything and more just getting blamed as a troublemaker.Sorry the proactive strong-moraled kid accidentally causes damage when correcting the harm you've caused with your "necessary evil" and refuse to actually explain to her ahead of time or support her in addressing.And sometimes she doesn't even do shit!
>>153476242Sure, fair enough. I personally think the distortion and her REAL secret (probably releasing the whitelegs) are in a way one and the same thing. Like, the distortion may very well be a side effect of it or a necessary part of it in some way. (If I'm right about the whitelegs, perhaps getting them out of her head cured her and cleansed Zimmingham, so she might have been acting like a seal, like a pandora's box, that held all the evil stuff inside)
>>153476265Annie has to be miserable. It's one of the pillars of the comic.
>>153475736If Zimmy is so afraid of Kat killing her, why doesn't she just not do the thing that will motivate her to kill her?
>>153476031Not too much prediction. Looking through the chapter again, Annie arranged a meet up with Jack to talk, so Jenny likely knew of it from him and could guess why. She just conveniently shows up and leads the way from that point on.
>>153476341That's the neat part, she doesn't. It's been her unsolicited fan club who've have been antagonizing people and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>153475932Everything since Omega manifested has been about 'we need to save Zimmy'. except she's fine.
>>153476391They assumed Zimmy was trapped, sure (they saw Lana be trapped too, not sure if they care about her and Loup though). She's been trapped and terrified in Zimmingham every other distortion they know of, really fucked up Jack too. And this one is wreaking havoc as well, already killed a new person. If Zimmy wasn't trapped like usual, why else would she keep hurting people by keeping this distortion going? Even if not for Zimmy, they'd be trying to "fix" the distortion, just maybe not this way. The goal is to keep people out of harm.Once again, just tell people what's going on and why it shouldn't be interfered with, instead of being mad when someone earnestly tries to help. But that doesn't work when you know you're doing nefarious shit, huh?
>>153476345So wait, why is everyone giving Annie shit when this is all Jack's fault? Cuck boy is the one who fucked up here.
>>153476391the goal has been to end the distortion
Has Annie fucked herself yet?
>>153476453>But that doesn't work when you know you're doing nefarious shit, huh?Duh?Zimmy is a bad guy. The comic has been fairly clear on that.
>>153476459The founders insisted on having their own space separate from etheric beings and so exploited the seed bismuth to do so.But this still wasn't enough, so they tried to tame the creatures of Gillite Wood. So Coyote separated the two with the Annan Waters.But this still wasn't enough so they created a monstrous damned-soul-powered kill-barrier capable of murdering afterlife guides to patrol the waters.But this still wasn't enough so they created Omega to puppet master the entire world to get to the point where they can use their forcibly-torture-the-power-out-of-Coyote-device and possibly kill this world to go create a new "dead" one (that is presumably forever ether-free, SOMEHOW).Annie has fucked this up by not just dying on the bridge that day like a good girl. And then she had the audacity to free their enslaved soul. And of course Coyote's plan to fuck with Ysengrin to get him to take his power, which started years and years before Annie was even born, is because she dared commune with the etheric beings in Gillite Woods. And now she's trying to help the etheric-touched acceptable sacrifices of the Court's plan, the bitch.
>>153476538Bruh.Genuinely unhinged and wrong on every level.Read the entire comic again, bozo.
>>153476547You're welcome to explain how it's actually wrong. Unfortunately, since the higher-ups of the Court are extremely secretive and shady, we don't have a lot of direct information from them as to what they've done and why. So it's possible that this has left the worst to be assumed when it's not exactly the case (though they definitely have done many unethical things either way). Maybe they're somehow not anti-ether zealots willing to commit awful deeds to further their goals, despite everything seeming to point to that conclusion. Shame they don't just explain themselves instead of pulling more of these conniving schemes.
>>153476603They went so far as to plan to turn on those who study the ether at their behest and to their benefit. Even their ultimate 'tool' Omega was to be simply discarded, so good thing she 4D-chessed herself a new body and lease on life. Couldn't even bear to follow through on their promise to bring along the Headmaster's daughter. One drop of ether, you are impure, and must be purged. Don't worry, they won't kill you directly. Your separate-but-equal world will totally survive having the power that allows it to 'continue to spin' drained at the interstellar-voyage power level. Ignore the usual fate of those we use as power sources or discard after their use runs out.
>>153476459Not sure I remember what Jack did. At worst, he's just being used by Jenny, who was more interested in Zimmy, through his talk about her. It wouldn't surprise me if all of this, has been Jenny trying to get Zimmy's power for herself, and her whole witch crew are expendable.
>>153476538Pft. Yeah, Annie's such a jerk for being a proactive protagonist with a strong sense of right and wrong. God forbid women do anything.
>>153476689Like, don't get me wrong, early on she didn't really think through the potential consequences of her attempts to help.I'd like if the kids more often asked for information or help. But the adults they do trust don't seem to be capable of it and the actual authorities are actively opposed.
>>153476603The court was established before the forest. We don't know exactly how they created the court, other than the occasional mention of a mysterious 'Seed Bismuth', but saying that it was abused is for sure a stretch.The forest was interested in what the court was doing and just kinda squatted on parts of the court's territory.The court at first allowed this to happen. They didn't exploit the forest, the forest exploited them. They expected the forest creatures to at least integrate, but this didn't really work out in the end. Over time the forest annoyed them more and more and eventually they got so fed up they decided to cut them off.Coyote seems to also have wanted this seperation, because he allegedly carved the ravine between forest and court. We have no idea what his reasons for this were. After this, Jeanne was imprisoned using the arrow to stop Coyote from coming across the water, for what reason this happened is also pretty much completely unclear, other than since we know what happened when he was able to cross, it was to prevent... Well, we also still don't know what Coyote wants/wanted to do in the court. For now, I think we simply don't have enough information on this particular issue to make a judgement either way, other than that soul-trapping someone is pretty evil and that it was almost certainly done to stop Coyote, not psychopomps, because psychopomps can come and go as they please in the court.They didn'g create Omega, they helped her.They didn't use her for anything nefarious at all.Annie didn't mess up their plans by not dying. If they wanted, they could have simply refused Annie entry into the court from the start. The court only ever invited problems in by allowing Annie in, presumably because Omega simply asked them or perhaps she lied to them. We might never know. Annie has some kind of improbability field around her for some reason that keeps Omega from accurately predicting things around her, so she couldn't save her life.
>>153476657There's no fixing whatever is wrong with your brain.
>>153476740>The court was established before the forest.You're wrong from the start. Coyote, Renard, Jones, etc. migrated there after the Court's founding but the humans moved to the woods amidst its etheric creatures, who were even present for its founding.https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=580The Court claims that Coyote started the division, but Jones notes they have deliberately hidden much of this information and tasks Annie to find out more.While not actually the Seed Bismuth, the story Annie gets from the forest is that the Seed Bismuth was a shared affair until the humans forced it to grow too fast and start to overtake the forest, which caused the fighting.https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1247Not going to go through your whole post explicitly debunking, you can read through the comic yourself.
>>153476800>the humans moved to the woods amidst its etheric creatures, who were even present for its founding.I erroneously conflated the Coyote-ruled forest of today with the forest from back then. I meant 'Forest' as a faction, rather than a location. My point still stands. They created the star ocean. They didn't take away any space from the old Gillitie woods, but the creatures of the forest were allowed in the Court.
>>153476746You didn't contradict any of what was written, just threw out an ad hominem
>>153476844Humans moved in to the woods, started the court with the residents of the forest. Both accounts agree on this. At some point they started fighting and Coyote separated them. Again, both accounts agree except for the reason for fighting. Since then they have been separate, at no point where humans some sort of benevolent host for the forest creatures - other way around, actually.
>>153476852Thanks, I'm aware.
I hope they all have anime over the top super powers in that dream world.
>>153476862No. The Court was new territory. It exists as much inside of the forest as any part of england that borders the forest on the outsides exists inside the forest. They were definitely friendly hosts. Coyote was the one who disturbed this peace. An ACTUAL outsider, both to the court and the forest.
>>153476212>>153476300trolling is against the rules, anti-Annie retards. kill yourselves already, unfunny faggots
>>153476884The court has created new territory, by utilizing a pocket dimension. But prior to that, their existence and expansion came at the expense of the forest. If you read the actual comic in the link I handed to you, the Court's own recreation of events has the Seed Bismuth planted IN the forest!
>>153476884>An ACTUAL outsiderthe humans were too
It would appear that Annie's superiority has invited some controversy.
>>153477031Zimmy is a best Annie than you two ever were, Annie.
>>153476538>Coyote's plan to fuck with Ysengrin to get him to take his power, which started years and years before Annie was even born, is because she dared commune with the etheric beings in Gillite WoodsCoyote's original plan was to get Renard to take his powers, until Annie's mom was tasked by the court to seduce and trap him.https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=792
>>153475736Kek
>>153476936Cool. So?
>>153477109So>It exists as much inside of the forest as any part of england that borders the forest on the outsides exists inside the forestIs not correct. All non-extradimensional parts of the court sit on land that used to be part of Gillite Woods.
>>153477076Gamma, please finish learning English before you shitpost.
>>153477127i'm not sure what the extra dimensional parts count as, either. it may be pretty much like building a ridiculously tall skyscraper on stolen land. the upper floors still rely on the foundation. otherwise, why wouldn't the court just completely sever the tie to the land, relocate entirely to that space?
>>153477127Oh my gosh, you are right, the court totally took adantage of these poor forest creatures!!
>>153477202Exploited them, even.
>>153477202>t. israeliwe get it, you're a human supremacist. continue your genocide of the natives unburdened by guilt
Anyone getting the feeling that Tom has been slowly allowing himself to intentionally draw Annie more sexy? The limiter is breaking.
Like, seriously, was this necessary?
>>153477227Due to the two Annies recombining, she is now technically in her 30s, and thus can be safely sexualized.
>>153477222>crazy anon turns out to be crazyThat seems about right. Not sure why I even engaged.
>>153477243nta dipshit. just cant stop me from noticing
>>153477202>>153477213Saying it mockingly is not an actual contradiction.>>153477222I don't think it's too out there to read a settler-colonialist attitude from the court, but I'd mostly just call them expansionist. At least before separation became enforced. Not sure at what point they started seeking to limit etheric influence (including essentially all non-human people).
>>153477238... That is pretty hot, but I'm still mad.
Remember Boxbot? This is her now. Feel old yet?
>>153477227>>153477233He's been drawing her hotter even since he got married. I think finally having a sexual outlet's let Tom not worry so much about that kind of thing.>>153477238Isn't Annie's current age ambiguous as fuck? She was 16 last I checked and that was before the time skip with Loup that introduced the 2 Annies, plus however long it's been since then with the comic basically dropping the school grade system so it's impossible to really tell how much time has passed without going chapter by chapter and checking what kinds of clothes characters are wearing outside. And even that might not be a good tell because of how wacky things have been. For all we know Annie's already 18. 16's also legal in the UK where this is taking place but I know we all default to American rules here.
>>153477967anon please we have a new best girl there now
>>153479543How... Nice.
God she's so fucking cute. ... Real talk, if Lana turns out to be some rando robot, I will drop this comic. Her being Boxbot is the logical payoff to her character, and Tom ruining that just to be "subversive" or whatever, that'll be the last straw. I cannot deal with a creator making their story bad on purpose.
>>153480132That's exactly why you don't build up your own headcanon like that. There's been no real hint at her being boxbot.
>>153480536But it makes sense, dammit!
>>153480670So did there being two Annies this chapter and look at how that worked out. Tom really knows how to step on our nuts, and not even in the hot way!
>>153480725I AM STILL MAD. FUCK YOU, SIDDELL. Why are you like this, man?
>>153479543I mean I agree that Cvet is best girl, but could you not have drawn literally any other girl? Anthro Cvet is an abomination.
>>153480670What about it makes sense? Boxbot had very simple emotions, Lana has a personality.
>>153481684>Boxbot had very simple emotionsI disagree, he was friendly and said hello to everybody, it's just that people hated him/her
>"Maybe people would like me if I was a cute and sexy ginger. But there's no way that would ever happen..."
>>153475736Zimmy is hot
>>153481768>tries to be helpful and add genuine value>gets constant verbal abuse>becomes a cute girl and does nothing but unzip her jacket and eat like a slob>nonstop positive attention and a forest god boyfriendFor her worldview to remain unpoisoned by the contrast is a testament to her character.
>>153482003Pure and wholesome no matter what. For real though, why was everyone so mean to her before? She just wanted to be helpful and friendly.
>>153480536That's true, there's really no actual hints. It's more of a "why not"? Why not have the robot who was shit on for no reason turn out to have been an "ugly duckling" of sorts when given a chance? Zero to Hero.But I think it actually works best if we never find out what robot Lana was before. It's better if the specific robot is of no consequence, that it could have been any unimportant robot. They're people now, unique and subject to all the same weird life shit and the whims of love. Also this way still lets the fans keep their headcanon.I guess Tom could give an actual answer to the contrary as a big joke. Show that Boxbot's new form also sucks and they're still getting shat on, or even that no one ever bothered recovering them to be converted to a new person. Ha ha, gotcha, you really thought it would be Boxbot? Many fans including me would hate this so I'd hope he wouldn't, but I'd get it.What would actually make me mad if he pulled the "I couldn't make Lana being Boxbot work with my original plans for the story". Hard to work in two Annies? Sucks, but can see it being a significant rework. Had an story idea for Boxbot, or a specific identity for Lana before the "Lana is Boxbot" train started? HAS to be trivial to adjust. It would be a way bigger "fuck you", a straight up mockery. I might actually start believing the anons that say Tom killed two Annies and Omega out of spite.
I am proudly simping for Boxbot. She cute! >>153482125>What would actually make me mad if he pulled the "I couldn't make Lana being Boxbot work with my original plans for the story"Cause it would be a straight up lie. As you say, there's no fucking way. >I might actually start believing the anons that say Tom killed two Annies and Omega out of spite.The sudden and seemingly unnecessary nature of both really makes it come off that way.
>>153482125>>153482216I'm torn between whether or not it was spite or Tom just really sucks at wrapping up characters and it felt like spite because they were particularly well-received within the fandom. I actually find Omega more suspicious than the two Annies because she was basically being built up after only just having been introduced, suddenly gets killed off with basically no ceremony, and gets spirited away off screen.
>>153482378They're both kind of suspicious for different reasons, the Annies merging also kind of came out of nowhere and Tom's excuse barely makes any sense. I somewhat suspect he's uncomfortable with people lewding his characters.
>>153482125>the robot who was shit on for no reason turn out to have been an "ugly duckling" of sorts when given a chance? Zero to Hero.Boxbot was an unimportant throwaway joke who didn't matter at all, and was hated for no reason, despite their best efforts, with a shitty body they didn't choose.Then Lana is extremely important both to the narrative and the world she lives in, was loved for no reason (that's how love works, catches you off guard as Loup found out), attracring boys incidentally, with a body they agonized over designing.Coyote had this great cosmic plan with his favorite oh-so-special destined Annie Carver? Nope, it's just fucking Boxbot. Because being "human" is weird. Or "new person", as Loup came to discover and appreciate, through her, and through also experiencing one having one of these new bodies himself.Also, it's funny.
>>153482378>I'm torn between whether or not it was spite or Tom just really sucks at wrapping up characters and it felt like spite because they were particularly well-received within the fandom. I mean, pick your fuckin' poison, right? Spite or hackery. >I actually find Omega more suspicious than the two Annies because she was basically being built up after only just having been introduced, suddenly gets killed off with basically no ceremony, and gets spirited away off screen.And I will remind you that she was built up for years. Omega was a character long in the works and made integral to the story. But she's just gone the instant her arc is is done? Nah, I don't buy it.
>>153482879Well, to be fair, there is potentially a clone.
>>153482378>>153482879Don't forget she got special double bonus pages to twist the knife of her "relationship" with Tony. Less of a bittersweet what-could-have-been and more like a kneecapping.>>153482748>Also, it's funny.That's good enough on its own. And plus then Boxbot is still a joke, but not a cruel one.
>>153483036>Don't forget she got special double bonus pages to twist the knife of her "relationship" with Tony. Less of a bittersweet what-could-have-been and more like a kneecapping.Man, I don't even like Tony, and I was still rooting for him and Omega to hook up. Fuck. >>153482748>>153483036To be honest, we've gotten a lot more comedic mileage out of Lana than Boxbot's one joke.
>>153482879There's something kind of funny about about how abruptly Omega was depowered and subsequently killed offscreen not 10 chapters after she first appeared as a character. Like Tom was saying, "Okay, we're done with this now. Moving on." I mean, we ended up getting invested in her because she was sexy and fun, but narratively she'd been affiliated with the protagonists for too short a time for her death to have a real impact. She got killed in her pjs after whatever menial threat she posed was dealt with and before she could interact meaningfully with anyone.
>>153483242I think what made her so appealing was how, in a story that typically shies away from having straight up villains, she was one of the few direct antagonists. And she was fucking great! She walked a fine line between funny, creepy, and sympathetic. She brought some very welcome demented energy to the book.
Shit like this certainly didn't hurt. Unironically very relatable.
>>153482879Omega was a plot device whose role in the story was finished after Annie and Kat depowered her, and her death showed that Jack is not fucking around.
>>153483580>and her death showed that Jack is not fucking aroundYeah, his "attempt" to kill Kat just beforehand would have fooled me.
>>153483580Oh yeah, Jack is such an intimidating badass. What with how he jobbed like an absolute bitch even with support. Anon, come on.
>>153475736>the beginning of the endyeah ok dude i was reading this shit back in 2006
I was skimming for the relevant pages to this conversation, and I forgot that this happened in the same chapter. I'm pretty sure this is less fairy nonsense, and more Red being fucking idiot.
>>153483580your arguments are like nintendo leaks, you will be confident you "solved" it until the story doesn't follow and you will pretend Tom personally changed it to make you look bad in front of everyone.
No seriously, look at Ayilu. >God my wife is dumb.
>robot>similar enough to annie that coyote's future sight could easily confuse it for firehead girlguys i figured out who lana was
>>153483840Speaking of Robot, when is he finally gonna become a sexy redhead too?
>>153483792>>153483825I might be misremembering but didn't an earlier chapter straight up confirm that Red was kind of dumb for a fae and even the other ones thought she was off?
I'll be honest, the re-framing of that whole thing as "Nah, Red's just stupid." has kinda salvaged her for me. Poor Ayilu. The heart wants, am I right?
>>153483868WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE>The last time Annie and Red talked was during their falling out>Annie was sixteen at the time>YearS, pluralGUYSGUYS ANNIE'S LEGAL
>>153483711There's a difference between trying to kill someone and actually going through with it.>>153483812I haven't solved anything, I just understand story mechanics.
>>153483840I wonder if robots could ask to look like a specific human.
>>153483930>I haven't solved anything, I just understand
Okay, so here's one of the pages I was looking for. ... Yo, remember when we were all being very normal about Zara's honeypot shtick? Like, damn. Poor Kat got robbed of some premium dark chocolate. >>153483915I feel like Tom might've taken care to be sure about that, considering, well. It would be an otherwise bad look for one our leads to be the target of seduction. >>153483865I don't recall, but it certainly tracks.
Your aim fucking sucks, Hyland. Our totally scary and intimidating villain who super duper means business, everyone! Jobbed to an unarmed nerd half his size. I really hope Jack wasn't the one who offed Omega, because that makes no sense. That must be a misdirect. Even Tom isn't that much of a hack. ... RIGHT?
>>153483964No you... understand.
>>153483915Finally, artists everywhere can feel safe from twitterfaggots that the art they draw of Annie railing herself is legal by California law standards as applied to living people.
>>153484044Killing someone he knew was different from killing Omega, a stranger he only knew as a threat to Zimmy. He was working himself up to it. But he had done it before and was capable of doing it again.
>>153483930>There's a difference between trying to kill someone and actually going through with it.You mean a difference between trying to kill someone and succeeding. "Actually going through with it" makes it sound like he didn't kill Kat because he didn't decide to, but with Omega he did. I'm not even sure what your statement is meant to correct or disprove honestly.
>>153482879I think its genuinely just that he has no idea how to write characters once their role in the story is done. Pretty much every character death or exit is like that even the side ones which people barely care about like Paz, she fulfilled her role in making Kat a lesbian and inciting cheap drama and then was almost immediately shipped off with no regard for her prior presentation as someone who actually cared about her girlfriend.>>153476538This isn't strictly wrong on most of the individual steps but the progression is false, the courts goal has remained consistently to escape the influence of the aether, they haven't grown greedy or anything this is just them naturally extending their goals. Omega also wasn't 'created' by the court in a forced way, she heard their pitch and as someone who's life was ruined by the ether joined up willingly. Their end goal is to create a world without the arbitrary chaos of the aether and is from their perspective a just one given the current system of the world is the exact same but occasionaly a god fucks with you because souls are 90% fake and used as feedstock for gods.
>>153484135>cheap dramaHey, remember when Paz was so angry at Annie that she brought some of her homies to jump her in an alley? And remember how this had way fewer consequences or even implications than it did? Cause I do! Also, Paz was a long standing background character who given a bumped up role in the story, some ethical depth, her own special comic, and ended up being the love interest to one of the main characters. That's a lot of time, investment, and effort put into a character just to shove them off so suddenly.
>>153484044>I really hope Jack wasn't the one who offed OmegaWe know Omega saw him before her death and she was very unfond of him after dying, but the others also specifically asked about him so she only answered specifically about him and could have been attacked by anyone. Jack does feel like he's meant to be a patsy.As an aside, I just HAVE to mention how sexy Annie was when she took her overshirt off that chapter. AWOOGA.
>>153479543Don't force me to fap to this.
>>153483983Zara is so hot.
>>153484185>her own special comic,This unironically is what bothers me more about Paz leaving than anything, not only did she get a lot of buildup but she got the most substantive non-Annie-focused side content released to date, which made her feel like an even more major character. Her confronting the Annies like a psycho just added to this feeling of weight she already had, like she was going to play a big part in what was coming up. And then she just leaves. She was Kat's girlfriend for a while and that's the biggest role she ended up having. Fucks sake man.
>>153484283She's an absolute baddie, and I want Kat to fix her.
>>153484290Paz was important, and her leaving was important, too. She was the catalyst, but she was also the chain keeping Kat human. Of all the story elements to complain about, Paz is not one of them.
>>153484366Look at this NERDY DORK!
>>153484370>Of all the story elements to complain about, Paz is not one of them.Bitch fuck you I'll complain about whatever the fuck I goddamn want. Coyote's hand was drawn 0.5% smaller in panel 5 than its relative size would suggest in panel 4!!!!!
>>153484290Right? Why did she get so much focus if she wasn't going to matter? Why did she get her own side comic(that was printed in two languages, by the fucking way, which is extra effort) that develops her character even further if she wasn't going to matter? I just can't get over this. Her first major "Oh, she's a real character now." moment was in Ch 29, A Bad Start. Tom has been developing her since 2010! And he just... tosses her away? If she doesn't come back for a dramatic twist or something, I think the man might be legitimately insane.
>>153484524I'm kind of hoping she does come back at some point because it feels like she was intended for something more than >>153484370. Also Paz was really, really cute.
I feel like if Tom weren't so weirdly cagey about actually showing any of the Court's modern higher ups, this stuff might've gone somewhere.
>>153484660I was gonna say, that anon does have a point. Kat now has one less moral tether. Maybe there's a sequence where Kat is about to do something horrible, but Paz shows up to remind her why she's doing all this god stuff in the first place. Also yes, Paz is cute. And a realist who prefers to work within the system to enforce ethical standards. Which is why she was about to beat the shit out of her girlfriend's bestie. That totally tracks.
Oh, and a reminder that Kat bringing baby City Face to Paz directly inspired the New People project. Fuck, I never realized how significant Paz is to the plot.
>>153484741>Which is why she was about to beat the shit out of her girlfriend's bestie.Even a single Annie would have stomped her and not felt bad about it.
>2013Fuck it's been so long. ... Remember The Happening? Everyone went crazy over this.
>>153484819Well, yes. But it's the intent that counts.
>>153484824I remember that this was back when webcomics still had a notable presence on /co/ and there were multiple threads in the catalogue freaking out about it. Back when /co/ still liked lesbians. The past really is a different country.
>>153484824The hullabaloo around this is what got me started reading in the first place.
>>153484854I wanna go back. For so many reasons. 2014 and onward was a mistake.
I love all the robots just watching. >Oh hey, the Angel is getting some action. Good for her.
>>153484259Annie occasionally shows some bare shoulder, and it's hard not to act up a little over it.
>>153485267>One sleeve down>Black undershirtTOM KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH THIS OUTFIT
Oooooh! Annie isn't homophobic, she's just conceited! ... Wait.
>>153485328Here's a full shot of it. Y'know, I can't help but feel like dressing up one's characters like sexy dolls is highly consistent with independent creators. I swear to god, damn near every webcomic does this.
Oh yeah, that's another thing Tom got rid of just to fuck with his audience. Jenny's gothness. Now, to be absolutely fair, I think most people eventually got over this because Jenny is waaaaaay better as a batshit insane villain who is also unironically a cuckold. The bitch cray and it's kind of amazing.
>>153485606>Jack I love that you want to fuck Zimmy it makes me want to fuck you or just kind of be there while you fuck Zimmy>Bitch what ok sure this works whateverThe more you think about it the funnier it becomes
>>153485623I know right? What the fuck! After Spider Legs, there's no way to read their dynamic other than Jenny gets off on Jack's Zimmy obsession. And this is even consistent with her first appearance. Also, I remember everyone getting really mad at this sequence, myself included. The fucking randomness of Jenny and Jack suddenly hating Annie is just as jarring as you remember.
>>153485698>Norns>Annie merge>Annie looks at the camera to tell the reader how cool her dad is>Jack and Jenny heel turn for no raisin>Omega's deathHonestly ever since the Norns this comic has just been like one really poorly received sequence after another
Speaking of our favorite psycho cuck witch, here's a reminder of her original chipmunk form. >>153485741I mean, there's been plenty of good. We wouldn't still be here otherwise. But yes, there's been a weirdly high number of big things that piss everybody off. I got nothing on why this keeps happening.
>>153484099He had a chance and missed because he wasn't ready to do it yet. >>153484044
>Haha, the guy I'm into simps for another girl. I find this charming. Like, this isn't a joke. This is what the comic presents us.
>that second panelAlso, didn't even know what she looked like at first. Incredible.
>>153485606>>153485623>>153485895In a charitable reading this is Jenny realizing that Jack has a soft emotional side and she's smitten with the fact he can show so much dedication and love for someone and wants to be the recipient of that herself. In practice this reaaaaaaally reads like Jenny gets off on the idea he's so head over heals for Zimmy.
>>153485945The fact she went through a goth phase specifically to make herself look like Zimmy does not help. She's just as much of a simp for her as he is.
>This is Carver's fault somehow! It's still funny. The instantaneous switch from "'Hello, love!" to "IT IS ON SIGHT, BITCH.".Like, it's not good writing, but it IS entertaining.
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Can we get a scene with the incoming class at GK but they're all drawn with soap-bar heads like the first strips were
If Jeph Jacques and Tom traded places for a month would anyone be able to tell
>>153488361Jacques would introduce 8x more characters all with more or less the same schtick and never bother actually writing them out. Paz and Omega would just stop appearing for no discernable reason.
>>153488422Now do Siddell handling QC