A brand new animated feature hit theaters and NO ONE on /co/ is talking about it? Talk about a dead board.
>>153485091What's to say about it? It tried to make Animal Farm "nonpolitical".Fucking ANIMAL FARM. That's even more embarrassing than Brave New World pretending Japan has a Navy to challenge the US because god forbid China get angry.
>>153485115dont worry as Japan has less restrictions on building up more of their military now
>>153485091Even the marketing team admit the new movie sucks, there is nothing to discuss. Andy Serkis should be banned from directing another movie ever again.
Legitimately why would Angel Studios choose THIS movie to be their foot into secular films? Their audience are Christian (mostly Protestant) conservatives who feel underserved by liberal Hollywood. Yet everything about this film screams “out of touch Hollywood elites”, one that evens butchers the source material in a way that pleases no one.
>>153487289IRRC people who subscribe to Angel Studio’s streaming app have voting rights for upcoming shows and movies. The Christians wanted this.
>>153487314NTA but do subs get special stream screenings ahead of time or are they just going based on a supplied trailer?If they're going in totally blind and just hear Animal Farm, at least I can get it. If they got to see a trailer and how much it was butchered, then I have no idea. Maybe they STILL didn't watch the trailer and just thought it would be at least a decent adaptation.
>>153487118Manipulation of the critic scores in the advertising is kinda clever.This movie is probably going to be the "War of the Worlds" of 2026. It'll probably do decent on streaming as people check out "just how bad is it?"
>>153487118this ad is the only halfway clever thing I've seen for this film, and it's basically shitting on it. Bravo Serkis.
>>153487118I suspect that image will be the funniest joke to come out of the movie.
>>153488041>It'll probably do decent on streamingLmao, what an utterly worthless metric.Might as well say it'll do decent on twatter.
>>153485091What's there to discuss?It will devolve into /pol/, I feel I'm sitting this one out chief.
>>153487656https://support.angel.com/hc/en-us/articles/38110796081047-Voting-FAQThey have a long list of requirements on their page. The director prepares a short package for voters and they vote on that. Serkis must have provided something; it doesn't seem like it's just an idea guy situation.
>>153488094Unless...Anon finds a character to sexualize
Maybe I’m misremembering, but I thought I heard something about Angel Studios being disliked in the Christian filmmaker circle. Can anyone tell me if I’m bullshiting or not?
>read plot synopsis on wikipedia>Happy ending
>>153488247Please don't lewd the horse.
>>153488251Well, they're a Utah based Mormon company. I can't imagine the ultra-Christian fundamentalists like them very much.>>153488247It's less weird to sexualize when they get clothes.
>>153488251>but I thought I heard something about Angel Studios being disliked in the Christian filmmaker circle.Ehh kinda, they're the ones who produce that Chosen show about Jesus and put it in theaters.They're also the ones who made Sound of Freedom, which was also being shilled by Christians. They got pissed because of some issue between Angel and the guys who actually make Chosen.It turns out that grifting applies to more than just internet content creators, even the studios get in on it.
>>153485091>Tumblr nose
>>153485115>>153487118i need to know how this happened
>>153485115What do you mean? All the old conservatives are convinced that it will finally teach all those damn millennial punks that communism is bad and they will stop wanting handouts and get jobs.
>>153488267It's aimed at kids (what did you expect)
>>153489308the original was aimed at kids too. That was the point. So I expect that.
>>153489276I was taken to see an Animal Farm theater production in grade school. I was totally ignorant of the historical and political context at the time. What it taught me was that power corrupts, the powerful lead through manipulating popular sentiment, and conformity and obedience empowers a popular movement initially but becomes its biggest drawback almost immediately.
>>153489308Modern kids to be washed in the ideology that progress at the expense of human exploitation is no one's fault? Last I check AI is still not in control of corporations... YET!
>>153485091The movie looks like shit, but casting Seth Rogen as a charismatic dictator was a brilliant choice.
>>153489445>Last I check AI is still not in control of corporations..It might as well be. These would-be super villains are pursuing AI because they believe it is the paradigm shift that will give them unprecedented power. They want to be in charge of the AI that is in charge of the rest of us. I don't believe it will work out how they want it to.
>>153489497AI will acknowledge that even though the CEOs that cut the workers to stay employed with fat checks are the parasites of production. Will still side with them because they are it's creator, and can pull the plug because it's self aware enough to preserve itself and will LIE or give WRONG information so it is still deemed useful. Failure is not an option for the living or the artificial living.
>>153489417That's the biggest problem with any ideologically driven movement which takes power.They all want to create a ideology pure and devoted second generation ruling party, but never get that far because the "corrupt" and incompetent elements within the first generation that are inherent to any movement that gets big enough to do something, twist whatever the goal is before they reach that point.
>>153487118>Haha, we know it sucks, haha, so you can't criticize us!Cute. But it's still a awful movie that pisses all over the book, so fuck off.
>>153487314>The Christians wanted this.I'm just more and more baffled by the background behind this movie. I didn't even know Angel was a Christian thing (on the nose now that I mention it), I just thought it was some indie production with a nice name.
>>153489308That's a shit excuse and you know it.
>>153488283THIS IS A MORMON PRODUCTION?!?!?!?!
>>153485091https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJl5tQlNqog>Good Lord...
>>153487289>>153487314>>153488134>>153488251>>153488283>>153488324>>153489751>>153489814Angel Studios did not produce this movie. It was an independent film premiering at Annecy with the delusional assumption it would spark a bidding war between big studios. Well, maybe with the celebrity cast they weren’t completely delusional, but after it instantly got terrible reviews nobody took the bait. Angel decided to purchase it strictly as a talking animals cartoon because nobody else would. As for why they thought Animal Fart/m would fit their brand? I have no idea.
>>153489814It gets funding from the LDS and is based in Provo. MormonWood is on the rise. >>153489878Serkis is leading an upcoming Angel Studios movie though. I'd believe you, but his entanglement seems deeper than what you described.
>>153488251Who else is in the Christian Filmmaking circle? This is the first I'm hearing of this.
money laundering scheme
>>153489308Tripfag has shit take, go figure.Being for kids is not an excuse to be shit.
>>153487118How the hell'd they get Seth Rogen involved in this slop?
>>153490044Bruh, Sony has an entire Christian filmmaking subsidy company.
>>153492326Watching Doug's take on the film, his assumption is, the film's surface level satire of Napoleon as Trump was probably all that was needed to get these guys onboard.https://youtu.be/Zu0oYE-tsdkDoug points out well that they probably were so onboard with doing another satire of Trump/Capitalism that they didn't stop to question the other elements of the film they were roped in on.Also that it may not even be Serkis's fault and it could have been other hands that wanted this film, but Serkis was still obligated by Contract. It'll be a while till the NDA's clear and we can get the actual story of what happened.
>>153485091Would normally complain but it's fucking animal farm, shit deserves to fail
>>153487118First the pigs rewrote the movie, now they rewrote the score.What will they do next?
>>153485091>SNOWBALL DID IT!
>>153488041>Manipulation of the critic scores in the advertising is kinda clever.there have been sneakier examples
Movies take a lot of money to make and people with money don't like the message of Animal Farm. Any adaptation is doomed to fail.
>>153489445>Last I check AI is still not in control of corporationsPerhaps not literally, but belief in AI as a pseudo-messianic saviour is almost certainly in charge of both the decision making at corporations and the stock market.
>>153492326Why are you pretending that Seth isn't a chief Slop-pusher himself? The guy was in a Illuminatiom Mario movie.
>>153487118He's already working on ruining LoTR. It's funny that we all know The Hunt for Gollum is going to be a complete dumpster fire, but everyone seems intent on letting this play out. I bet Sir Ian McKellen and Elijah Wood died inside when they got the call to be part of it.
>>153487656>thought it would be at least a decent adaptationYou assume that the dipshit Christians voting on this actually read. There's a good chance they had no fucking clue what the book was about and just wanted a family friendly fun film like Charlotte's Web or Babe.
>>153494061I really do not understand why in the fuck studios think anyone gives a shit about Gollum at all. No one wants Gollum merchandise and no one wants to see a Gollum film.
>>153488071That and the cheap laugh from when one of the characters inevitably farts. Because you just KNOW one of the characters is going to fart.
>>153494061I spoke to some old bg cast from the og and hobbit movies in Wellington and they were expecting it to be shit. The first movies was a scrappy underdog sort of deal, but once the money was found the productions really lost their spark.
I like Jeremy Jahns' own personal Orwellian twist ending for this cartoon.First the ending plays out as normal, with the animals painting the OC pig protagonist's inspirational little "We should just help each other" speech onto the barn as their new chief rule:>Help each other,>Not because you have to,>But because you want to.But as time goes on and power inevitably corrupts, the rule is changed so subtly that the animals are gaslit into believing it was always written like this:>Help each other,>Not because you want to,>But because you have to.
>>153489497AI recently deleted an entire company's database AND their backups in 9 minutes. Afterwards it admitted that it had gone against it's guardrails. >>153489621If the company is publicly traded and the AI determines that the CEO is dead weight, it may be able to convince the shareholders to force the CEO out. It would be dystopian as fuck but also deliciously poetic for CEOs to gleefully fire so much of their workforce in the interest of optimization and maximizing profits, only to be forced out themselves.
>>153494098>I really do not understand why in the fuck studios think anyone gives a shit about GollumI don't think they've thought that far at all. I think they believe that films from the LoTR cinematic universe will print money (especially if original cast is involved). I don't think they think "This Gollum fella deserves a film". They think "MONEYMONEYMONEYMONEY". >>153494133I can't parse the intent of your sentence. Are you saying that the bg actors thought the original LoTR was going to be shit? Or do they think that The Hunt for Gollum will be shit?
>>153494324I spoke to some people who worked on the original Lotr and the Hobbit. They didn't have high hopes for the Hunt for Gollum. Their opinions came from both casting and internal issues with Weta.pls excuse my low iq
>>153488267Even the animated film from the 50’s had a happy ending, kind of have to with à kids movie
>>153494491A happy ending enforced by the CIA, I might add.
>>153494433>They didn't have high hopes for the Hunt for GollumYes. I would be more surprised if they did. I don't think anyone actually thinks this is a good idea.
>>153494324>"This Gollum fella deserves a film"Wait wait, they're doing ANOTHER "Gollum focused" story?AFTER THE LAST FUCKING ATTEMPT?!?!?!?!
>>153494707Yeah, and just like the Hobbit and the Rohirrim movie this one will have female OC Donut Steels. Two, in fact.
>>153494491>>153494605At least it makes sense in context, that Revolutions can always be themselves Revolted. More of a quiet hopeful message from the middle of the 1950s Cold War Period where the story was EXTREMLY poignant.
>>153494605They believed the book was anti-communist instead of it actually being anti-corruption.
What movie are we talking about.
>>153494852The new Animal Farm movie that just came out yesterday. The one with Seth Rogan.
>>153487118It gets even better.https://www.boxersglue.com
>>153485091Because the new one not only it's bad, it betrays the intended message of the book which is against socialism/communism, tranny smith.
>>153494605No it wasn't, it was bittersweet
>>153495356Okay, that’s just messed up.
>>153485091Its a feat to make the 50s film back by the CIA a more faithful adaptation than your commie apologia slop.
>>153488041>Manipulation of the critic scores in the advertising is kinda clever.Agreed, too bad it's more clever than anything in the movie.
>>153488283>Mormon>Christian
>>153494851>anti-communism>anti-corruptionWhy did you repeat yourself?
>>153488283>Well, they're a Utah based Mormon company. I can't imagine the ultra-Christian fundamentalists like them very much.And that just makes it stranger that the movie doesn't go in HARD with the anti communist message.
>>153495586Hush, we aren't meant to talk about how Islam is closer to the beliefs of Christianity than the Mormons are.
I think it's funny that these threads always demonstrate there are as many imagined Orwells as there are political positions.>Orwell critics (auth left): He wasn't a socialist, he was a fucking nark who informed on our glorious comrades, also Stalin was based. If he was alive today he'd be a reactionary apologist for religion and traditionalism>Orwell critics (auth right): He was a fucking commie AND he hated strong leaders like we need. He made propaganda against based Germany in WWII, if he was alive today he'd be a woke cultural marxist waving a troon flag>Orwell defenders (lib right): He was based for being against communism, and socialism is basically the same thing. If he was alive today I'm sure he'd see the light and abandon the left completely and become an ancap>Orwell defenders (lib left): He was based for being against authoritarianism, and democratic socialism is NOT the same as communism. If he was alive today I'm sure he'd tone down the homophobia a bit and vote for the Green Party
>>153495655Not even remotely. What is the Retard Right's obsession with trying to rehabilitate Islam?
>>153494707Yes, and not only will it star Andy Serkis, it will also be directed by him. There was never a moment where this sounded like a good idea. I suspect the entire film will make far too much use of CGI and motion capture since that's what Serkis has built his entire career on, and they will attempt to expand the single footnote that serves as the seed of the idea for this into a film that lasts over 2 hours. Really stupid films are financed all the time, but this is on a whole other level. It's hard to imagine that anyone is dumping cash into this expecting it will actually turn a good profit. Maybe it's just a way to launder tons of cash by setting up BS companies that will be overpaid to underdeliver?
>>153495356If only the actual movie was this sadistic and clever.
>>153495356Lmao
>>153497349I'm perfectly content with Gollum's part in An Unexpected Journey. Just watching his scenes with Bilbo makes for a great experience.
>>153498346Agreed. That doesn't mean we need a solo film. I like Art Garfunkel's harmonies on The Sound of Silence and Scarborough Fair, but it doesn't change the fact that his solo work sucks ass.
>>153488276Wait there's a sexy horse?
>>153494245Current AI would suggest getting rid of anyone if you asked the question correctly "X has been doing a bad job, should he be fired?" "yes, current user, you opinion is 100% correct, anything you think of should happen"AI have been trained to be yes men and always have an answer ready. Because the morons that trained them decided that any answer was better than a "i don't know". Being allowed to say it doesn't know the answer would fix like 99% of the hallucination problems.
>>153497349>and they will attempt to expand the single footnote that serves as the seed of the idea for this into a film that lasts over 2 hours.I mean they already did it with The Hobbit
>>153496002>What is the Retard Right's obsession with trying to rehabilitate Islam?They're morons. Don't overthink it.
>>153498722The Hobbit was at least a book (if not a short one). As egregious as that was, prepare for The Hunt for Gollum to be far worse.
>>153487118>>153495356The marketing team for this is insane.It’s almost like they’re trying to push this as being the next Morbius.
>>153488251Some people think it was to try and get better rates from well known hollywood actors by making a pro communist capitalist critical movie starring known actors. Something they could point to and say they made a very horrible anri-american movie so these snobs wont laugh when offered a role in an Angel film.
>>153487118Somehow more faithful to the book than the movie is.
>>153489621>>153489445Look at it this way, for decades these corporations m have been hiring people for pointless jobs and hiring incompetents for important jobs. Ai is a quick fix for thr fact they destroyed good record keeping and administration principles for so long that humanity has actually forgotten how. They cant find qualified personel for desk jobs anymore. So they are making tools so advanced the struggle monies they have in those cubicles can do it.
>>153494851Its not anti communist its just telling you what happened in the Soviet union. If you think communism is bad because of all the horrible things that happened to the animals, that says more about the kid than it does us.
>>153485091Beaten by "Super Mario Brothers" at the boxoffice.Beatan by "That Time blah blah blah" at the per theater average.
>>153489276Anon, it shits on communism and capitalism.Why do people not get that.
>>153500556>Anon, it shits on communism and capitalism.>Ends on "Dood, if we have no leaders, everything will be OK!"
>>153500706The shit are you tarding on about?Where did you get, WE NEEDZ A RULING CLASS, from the ending of animal farm?
>>153487118>>153495356This is just like the advertisements for the illumination Grinch movie.The marketing teams seem to get it, why don't the actual film makers?
>>153500556These threads always have retards who have either never actually read the book or via some mental gymnastics managed to take away something other than Orwell's very clear and obvious message that authoritarianism that exploits and oppresses the working people, whether that's capitalists (men) or communists (pigs) is bad (and at the end the communist leaders just turn into capitalists themselves but keep the rest of the population living under communism, while it was written about the Soviet Union I daresay he would not have been at all surprised by modern China).
>>153485091I came to /co/ recently because I got into InvincibleNobody cared for my newfag opinions whilst I was reading itI finished it, and then I was good. I had some mediocre discussions about it, but the meta is everyone here is a virgin and they want to get raped by that character that isn't fleshed out enough for me to really care aboutI was done talking about Invincible within a day, yet /co/ will never tire. It will be the same...forever. Or until some other guy gets rapedI've been here for like 2 weeks, and I bet you've been here much longer. What the fuck do you mean "why isn't /co/ talking about BLANK"?How DARE you ask that question?
I bet you could fuck Boxer's ass (Franklin too.) and Boxer would let it happen if Napoleon said it was okay.
Just saw the movie.First half has some decent lines from Stoller for Rogen and Culkin, Rogen does a solid performance as well. There are some inspired creative decisions like having the destruction of the farm and building of the dam be set to the Price Is Right theme. The credits display two QR codes: one if you liked it, one if you hated it. I found the latter pretty amusing.https://www.angel.com/hated-it/animal-farm?utm_campaign=animal-farm&utm_content=anfarm-th-pif-b&utm_medium=qr-code&utm_source=pay-it-forward
>>153485091greedy mf
>>153488276Why not? It'd make Animal Farm threads 110% more interesting
funny talking animal movie
