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>Transformers does consistently well with audiences across multiple mediums
>TMNT has so much variety it can appeal to several demographics regardless of quality
>GI JOE, while niche, still has a cult following and a solid comic right now.
>He-Man still occasionally gets cartoons, and gets a new movie this year

Why does Thundercats struggle specifically? I'm shocked they never tried a live action film yet. Or does that fall into uncanny valley and producers keep getting CATS movie? But in general, is the material just not good?
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>>153487371
The problem is their setup is convoluted
>Leaving a dying planet
>Also the prince ages physically during cryo sleep
>For some reason the planet they land on is called third earth
And iirc Mumm-Ra doesn't really have any connection to the Thundercats like Skeletor does with He-Man or Shredder with Splinter. I will say though
>Sword of Omens > 99% of fictional swords
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>>153487371
They tried twice to bring it back. One time was so deeply flawed that most people checked out before the first season finished. The second time was TTGO but with Thundercats, and the faggot creators behind it were super pissy to fans who dared to tell them that they liked Thundercats and thought their show sucked. So much so that they had to make an episode where the original Lion-O showed up and told them how cool they were and how anyone who disliked them was a big dumb doo-doo head, because they were that insecure about their shitty show.
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>>153487371
All the shows that take place in contemporary modern Earth do moderately well and can draw a wide audience.

The wacky goofy fantasy series that has cat warriors fighting evil wizards and mutant minions have a fairly niche audience.
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>>153487457
Its a kids show.
People here are wowed by the retardation of Avatar.
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>>153487525
Yeah...
Lord of the rings is very unpopular.
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>>153487479
>The second time was TTGO but with Thundercats, and the faggot creators behind it were super pissy to fans who dared to tell them that they liked Thundercats and thought their show sucked.

Revisionist history.
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>>153487457
A lot of those things are drawn from pulp adventure books. Third Earth is a wild kitchen sink setting that is both primordial, post-apocalyptic, and magical at the same time.
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>>153487371
WB, the owners of TCats is stupid. Like really really stupid.
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>>153487479
>One time was so deeply flawed that most people checked out before the first season finished.
And the amazing part was that everything except the writing was great. But that writing was so shit it killed any interest in the show.
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>>153487587
>Revisionist history.
Nope. Actually happened in a TTGO episode where Lion-O shows up and tells everyone that doesn't like Thundercats roar that they are a "poop mouth with poop opinions"

On top of all the shit before the show where that mealy mouthed faggot with the manbun was telling people that this was HIS version of Thundercats and even bitched about the 2011 show.
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>>153487619
It was a bold choice to have Lion-O re-learn the same lessons for most of the season, while every character treated him like shit. Genuinely shocking that didn't pay off and people disliked seeing great animation and character designs wasted on repetitive, trite scripts.
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>>153487606
This genuinely looks better than Roar, dang.
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>>153487525
MotU doesn't normally have contemporary earth as a setting at all
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>>153487665
That TTGO episode was written by the 2011 TCats showrunner.

>bitched about the 2011 show.
When?
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>>153487689
Yeah but it has humans and He-man is a classic Superman type character that's more likable for a kid than man child catman
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>>153487684
Fans would have shat in this too. Any comedic take on TCats would have been met with skepticism in a post-2011 cancellation landscape.
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We do NOT speak of Thundercats Roar. Not even the Mutants of Plundarr give voice to that abomination.
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>>153487573
I missed which book has cat warriors from space, which one was that again?
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>>153487706
I like to think Micheal Jelenic, as any responsible Thundercats fan with power would, intentionally sabotaged TCats Roar with his TTGO crossover episode.lol
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>>153487716
The old Superman MotU crossover comics are great
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>>153487823
Roar's mutants were peak. Do the other Tcats series have episodes dedicated to the mutants?
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>>153487371
Probably toy sales. GIJOE and Transformers got full on movies, which I assume happened because of toy sales.

>>153487479
>One time was so deeply flawed that most people checked out before the first season finished
The writer's strike fucked this one so badly. Also, the Tygra wanking.
But yeah, the attempts to bring it back being so bad killed it.
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>>153487371
>Controversial Opinion: Try to resurrect SilverHawks instead.
It would be so much easier, it's just bird themed super sentai as a cartoon with a cooler villain than Mum-Ra anyway.
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>>153487840
It was after the thousand year old long eared peopke and 4 foot tall people who live underground.
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>>153487772
Pretty much. The silly cartoony style was already massively unpopular after Teen Titans go. It didn't help that the 2011 reboot left a bad taste in people's mouth for how badly it treated Lion-O. People wanted a do-over. They got something completely different instead.
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>>153487900
Even more controversial opinion: TigerSharks
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>>153487900
>bird themed super sentai as a cartoon
Why do that when you can just make more Gatchaman, which is a bigger brand?
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>>153487985
Fuck that; Street Frogs.

https://youtu.be/luJ0eUMA88I?si=ympDt44scHK3jwwC
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>>153487457
>>For some reason the planet they land on is called third earth
Because it's literally Earth, anon. It's never been too hidden that it's meant to be some sort of post-apocalyptic Earth.
Even as a kid watching this on Toonami I figured it was meant to be a play on earth being the third planet. But in truth it's because it's meant to be Earth in it's third age.
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>>153487371
>Why does Thundercats struggle specifically? I'm shocked they never tried a live action film yet. Or does that fall into uncanny valley and producers keep getting CATS movie? But in general, is the material just not good?

People don't want to animate something cool in earnest, too lazy for fight scenes, too lazy to stay on model, too incompetent to write good stuff and worse of all no one wants to write a good story of good guys win against the bad guys in earnest at this point.

It sucks but that's the gist of it, people forgot on how to make good toyetic cartoons for kids that old farts also enjoy.
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>>153488003
Because Gatchaman is more relatively established, so SilverHawks would be a cheaper IP to use.
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>>153488038
Roll them into the Punk Frogs universe with TMNT and you got a deal.
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very informative and reasonable posts this thread. good job.
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>>153488038
Fuck that! Street SHARKS!
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I think the real answer is that Thundercats is just He-Man, but worse and with furries.
>Both mix magic with sci-fi
>Both follow a would be prince
>Both have magic swords
>Both have a hot chick sidekick who uses a staff
>Both have undead looking antagonists
I vaguely recall the pilot movie to the 00s show being cool though......You know, before it went to shit.

Actually why haven't furries kept this series alive? Too human looking for their tastes? Even Avatarfags love cat people
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>>153487371
As a kid the convoluted backstory was never an issue for me but I guess is a little too complicated to be told and retold like some other IPs.

Did Thundercats had toys? maybe that is the issue TF, TMNT, GI JOE and He-Man were all sucessful toy lines, I don't remember Thundercats having toys.
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A live action Cheetara focused film would be successful. Same with a Cheetara focused animated show and high end 1:1 scale silicone Cheetara statue.
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>>153487371
There are some comics that are currently releasing, how are they doing?
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>>153487871
I did not watch it. The art-style & animation were....let's just say, even the Ancient Spirits of Evil wouldn't watch it. And they *laughed* through Overfiend.
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>>153488566
>A live action Cheetara focused film
Who should be cast as Cheetara in your live-action movie?
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>>153488568
They're decent enough, but they fall into the "writer hates his dad" trap with Jaga

They do have more cats survive, which is smart
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>>153488416
Basically every 2nd dnd inspired cartoon ever made anon.
Shit you mostly described nu-wars.
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>>153488657
>writer hates his dad" trap

It's funny how all the TCat reboots seem to do this.
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>>153487587
one autist on DA is not the majority
the same with one shitposter replying to himself with multiple vpns who lives in shitpostingstan
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>>153488566
Cheetara animated series where she gets Bad_end by something new every episode
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>>153487371
Welp it's been fun, 'til next thread Thunderkitties. I'm sure a new show will crop up in a decade or so when the rights need to be reestablished, and maybe third time will be the charm.
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Abandon cats. Return to Knights of the Magical Light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPhSuzXww9U
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>>153489057
Pfft. Lazer Tag Acadamy, now that was a show
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>>153487371
Too furfag bait-y
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>>153489358
Actually shouldn't that technically work in their favor? Furries have deep pockets
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>>153487371
Because it's ugly and stupid furshit, and everyone but a handful of weird fucking autists has known it for 40 fucking years.
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Out of all the 80s villain icons, Mumm-Ra is probably the worst
>Megatron
>Shredder
>Skeletor
>Cobra Commander

Seriously, what does Mumm-Ra bring to the table other than his transformation?
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>>153487371
It's just kinda gay. That said Thundercats has a pretty big following, it's almost He-Man level. Keep in mind very few cartoons get a live-action movie
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>>153489394
It's not furshit though, they are far too human leaning. I'd say that is actually to its detriment, even though it is a cartoon they land in a similar level of uncanny valley like that horrid CATS movie. They are not human enough for normalfags, not furry enough for furries.
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>>153489542
Bingo right here! This is what makes the characters visually not marketable. Finally someone else agrees. But this dude is also right...

>>153489394

Thundercats also suffers from being kind of dumb concept. Even stuff like Ninja Turtles kept itself more cohesive and as such marketable. And I suppose that it helps that Ninja Turtles takes place in modern Earth not some attempt at a semi Lord of the Rings style of Earth. You have to admit that fantasy was somewhat dying when Thundercats premiered. And it didn't get a second wind until the Lord of the Rings theatrical films and Harry Potter. And it the thing is that Thundercats combines both magic with Sci Fi elements so really its more Science Fantasy when you get down to it and that's always been an odd mix.
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>>153489542
>>153489571
So it is the uncanny valley
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>>153489523
I mean just look at this zesty ass nigga.
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>>153489571
>And it the thing is that Thundercats combines both magic with Sci Fi elements so really its more Science Fantasy when you get down to it and that's always been an odd mix.
Except He-Man made it work.
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>>153489542
It really comes off as strange. You got the cats who are all humanish, then LITERALLY every other race are full furries/beastmen.
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>>153489616
>But look at how quickly He-Man's fame fizzled out. So how popular is it really?
It's still in public consciousness given iconic imagery and gimmicks. Everyone knows who Skeletor and He-Man are, and no one cares that it clashes magic with science. Hell, big two comics do this shit. Execution is key, and Thundercats sucked at it
>Shrek
What a weird autistic comparison given the different tones. This would be like bitching at Looney Tunes bits
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>>153489603
Meanwhile Grune was some sort of cat walrus.
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>>153488089
You're missing the point that having alien creatures go to a post apocalyptic earth that's never clearly established as our earth is significantly more convoluted than the transformers coming to modern earth or Eternia just being another planet
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>>153487606
It doesnt help that they own so many other huge franchises they routinely fuck up either. I imagine the internal logic for the last few decades has been something like "well, why bother with thundercats when we can make more Batman and Scooby Doo?"
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>>153487772
Some properties simply dont merit comedic reimaginings. That's a role beat reserved for actual parody. I think it says alot that TTG lasted as long as it did through a strict combination of schedule spamming and brand recognition. Had the same show been made but based off, say, the Inferior Five nobody would have batted an eyelash. The 2010's was as much the decade of ragebait as it was the decade of faggotry after all.
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>>153487871
The original series dedicated a few eps to the bad guys, yes. The 2011 series focused more on the cats and mumm-ra's ties to lion-o
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>>153487900
Both the Silverhawks and Tigersharks deserve a new shot at life outside of the comics.

There's alot I want to add to that statement, but for now it's best I focus on Silverhawks. For the last few years the show's really captured my imagination in a way few things have in recent memory. In many respects it manages to fill the void a growing number of dead or dying franchises have left behind. My ideal new take on Silverhawks would retain the same cast and premise, but it'd borrow the tone of alot of 90's sci-fi classics. The 'Hawks would be sort of like the Federal Armed Forces from Starship Troopers.

The extents of their cybernetic enhancements would be shown in gritty detail, confirming them all to be little more than brains and spinal columns that can plug into a variety of mission specific bodies. Some members would be permanently restricted to specific forms though, like Steelwill, who'd be a hulking 40K dreadnought styled tank in this iteration. Really that 40K Astartes animated miniseries did alot to inspire these ideas. That and Robocop 2014's "body horror" scene.

Monstar and his gaggle of underlings would be fleshed out in greater detail, with each one standing as a respective mob boss all their own beholden to Monstar himself. I'd want them along with the rest of the aliens in this take to borroe heavily from the Star Wars prequels. So for every Cad Bane or Aurra Sing you'd have somebody flashy like Poker-Face hamming things up.

Another idea I mulled over was species-swapping and renaming Copper Kid into a Thunderan named "Copernicus". If this interests anyone I'll dig out my designs for Quicksliver and Copper Kid.
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>>153491386
>Inferior Five
I think the team making the exact same show as TTGO, but with the Inferior Five instead of the New Titans, would still be able to make a successful show that lasted +9 seasons. The Go Titans are so far removed from their source that it's basically an a show about a generic superhero group in a DC universe. TTGO didn't NEED to be Titans cartoon, it just needed to be in the DC universe.

>Some properties simply don't merit comedic reimagining
Disagree, a property's tonally flexible is proportionate to the talent of the team working on it at the time.
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For me it's, Chilla.
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>>153491018
Ironic that the Beast Wars series did something similar with them landing on prehistoric Earth, then BWII in Japan had them land on a post-apocalyptic Earth
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>>153490988
He's a sabertooth, anon
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>>153487479
At least it gave us mesugaki Wilykit.
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>>153491018
Keep in mind that at the time. Planet of the Apes would still be in recent memory and there were more than a few post-apocolyptic wasteland movies, so the idea of post-apocalyptic Earth being a setting wasn't unheard of.
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>>153487371
yiff in hell, furfag
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>>153493487
True I guess the ultimate point I'm making is that the added detail is compounding with things like Lion-O being a kid in a man's body. All fine and interesting in the original show but when making a new Thundercats, what direction do you take these concepts? Do you keep Lion-O aging wrong? Do you just make him young? I always felt that the 2011 Lion-O was too wimpy looking compared to his 80s counterpart in a way that say someone like 02 He-Man doesn't when compared to the original. You lost the appeal of Lion-O being a goofy uberchad speed running growing up. Instead you get a stock "inexperienced princeboy" type character. It feels like that mischaracterization stems from the people making the show trying too hard to keep the immature Lion-O characterization intact without the clunky cryo aging origin
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>>153493915
I think that's more just a change in aesthetic preferences. The big musclebound 80's hero isn't as popular, and the 02 He-man infamously didn't resonate with kids keeping the bare skin and the muscles. 2011 Lio-n-O was closer to a shonen anime protagonist, if anything they probably should've made him younger looking.
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>>153487371
I think the main problem is the character designs. No production company seems to want a Cats 2.0 situation, even if Thundercats does have a notable following.
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>>153487479
>One time was so deeply flawed that most people checked out before the first season finished.
even if it did build an audience i don’t think wilykit+lion-o would have gone over well
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>>153491490
Please do share, we can never have enough art in this shit board
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>>153487371
Setting TMNT aside since it's situation is more unique, the rest of those shows are designed to promote merchandise. The popularity of the merchandise is a good clue to how much new media they get. Transformers obviously stands out by having perennially successful toys and unsurprisingly it also gets the most adaptations. GI Joe and He-Man still sell some toys, but who is buying Thundercats merch at this point?
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>>153495155
It's a little lopsided because I made the mistake of drawing it at an angle, but here's Quicksilver. The GQuuuux zaku was a big influence obviously. All I did was strip it down a little to emphasize the industrial grade mechanics behind the body.
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Copper Kid/Copernicus

In revisiting the series it dawned on me how missed an opportunity it was not to make this character into the Snake Eyes of the team.The idea of Copper Kid speaking through whistles and musical tweets isnt inherently bad, I just think they went about it in the doofiest way. When his battle mask is down he should speak through morse code or something.
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Thought I'd share this piece too. He-man had Faker, but Lion-O only ever had the mirror duplicate Mumm-Ra made of him. For whatever reason I thought it'd be cool to flesh out the evil Lion-O clone idea. Here's the original getting his arm lopped off by Mumm-Ra, then subsequently getting a mechanical prosthetic integrated into the claw shield/gauntlet of omens, while Mumm-ra grows his evil twin from his severed arm using witchcraft.
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I'm bored. You guys wanna try and fix/workshop Thundercats to be not-stupid?
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>>153496310
What did you have in mind? I'm happy with the series as is. If I were handed the reigns I'd just lean into the fantasy side of things harder.
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>>153496635
So would you just ditch the "actually the setting is the far future Earth"?
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>>153489523
>it's almost He-Man level.
It's really not.
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>>153497210
Yeah, it just never sees alot of use anyways and I like the magic angle better ontop of that.
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The Dynamite comics under Declan Shalvey are doing well.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but does Thundercats suffer because there's no clear "goal"? There's a simple premise for all of these shows, but I can't for the life of me remember Thundercats's.
>Transformers: Two factions fighting for resources to finally end a multi-million year war, the final battleground being Earth
>GI JOE: Government special forces trying to weed out a global terrorist network dead set on world domination
>He-Man: Prevent Skeletor from acquiring the power hidden in Castle Greyskull
>TMNT: 4 mutants trying to take down Shredder's criminal organization endangering NY while also keeping a lid on the dangers of mutagen

Does Mumm-Ra already own their planet and its like a resistance thing, or the other way around?
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>>153497521
The Thundercats are trying to reclaim Third Earth from Mumm-ra and his army of evil mutants. Somehow the planet is spotted in Thunderian ruins, and the cats are out to restore their lost kingdom.
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>>153497755
Do Mumm-Ra's forces use tech?
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>>153496310
Sure. I'll have it.
They crashed on the planet while on their way to a thundercat space colony. The mutants are space pirates that followed them.
Lion-O is not a child that grows up but a teenager. Prince but the empire fell.
The thundercats are basically his tutors and unbeknownst to him protectors.
Third earth is fallen earth after a lovecraftian apocalypse that mummra caused.
The show is them trying to survive till they can get home.
Setting lets them unravel mysteries about earth see new people and occassionaly get new thundercats.
Cheetara is the scout, osychic, and teaches history. Is consulted about ancient history and figurung out the cukture of third earth. Empathy of the team

Tygra is an alchemist and mage he knows more about Lion-O's heritage and the eye then he lets on. Will become mesmerised by the magics of third earth. The ancient spirits will tempt him

Pumyra is the tech guy. Less a scientist more of a mechanic who has a knack for science. Is the technologist and doesnt really trust magic but understands its power and uses it. Would rather use tech and guns then magic but is good at it.

Willykit+Wilykat
Are the court jesters. The biblically accurate kind. They are seemingly young but are both a few years older then lion o.
Curious Tricksters who make fun and get into mischeif. Kat has abnormal strength for his size and Kit has a sonic scream.

Snarf is..well Snarf stays the course. Maybe hes the Yoda.

Lion-O is...a generic not a boy not yet a man brash but carring teen boy. Going full shounen.

>>153497521
They want to survive. But thats not enough.
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Serious question I dont know if I want answered: would making them more feline over human, like Na'vi from Avatar or whatever, help with the designs?
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>>153487371
The demolisher was pretty cool
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>>153498435
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I really like the cat-people angle. It makes them seem more capeshitty. The navi angle would be a step too far in the furry direction imo.
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>>153497803
Some do, some dont. It's sort of like Monstar's crew in that sense. You have meatheads, arms dealers, superstitious sycophantic underlings, and just random goofballs.
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>>153497946
You've only just made me realize how much Thundercats borrows from Herculoids
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>>153498708
Herculoids is everyother post apocalyptic setting but made for kids.
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>>153497287
Does He-man even have much in the way of new fans? As a 90s kid , Thundercats was at least on Toonami. He-man only had that reboot that was quickly forgotten and the Netflix show.
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>Why does Thundercats struggle specifically?
Because no one gives a shit about it, it has no cultural relevance whatsoever. The He-Man reboots are justified because the heyyeyaaeyaaaeyaeyaa video on YouTube has 228 million views and that's the primary way young audiences discover the character. Thundercats has no such equivalent
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>>153498435
I love the OG thundercats but i agree making them more feline would make it better and allow it to differentiate itself from masters of the universe etc. Worry about going furry is clearly a moot point in the wake of zootopia making a trillion dollars. Just dont go full furrafinity and your fine
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>>153500194
Cat features on humans means easier cosplay. Some can have more feline features but not full cat or looneytunes style.
Like Jagga being full lion faced humanoid.
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>>153500138
He-Man also had a solid 00s reboot, whereas Thundercasts merely pissed people off. He-Man also had the Netflix stuff, both CG and the Kevin Smith series
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>>153500194
>>153500281
What if it was just like Sway Katz?
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>>153500303
Fuck no.
A few if the thundarans having a more feline appearance sure, but not all of them.
And I say that as someone who grew up with ninja turtles and actyally watched loonatics, mighty ducks, earthworm jim, bucky o'hare, and even road dogs.
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Blah blah blah post wilykit
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>>153500138
Not only this but He-Man has other evidence showing he's left an impact, there are parodies of him. Media that doesn't get this treatment truly made no waves. And even now He-Man is getting a new beat em up game. For an old brand to be getting a game that really is something and by the looks of it it seems to at least be as decent as the recent Ninja Turtles Shredder's Revenge.

Thundercats on the other hand? I can't think of many games except the licensed one for the failure reboot and Thundercats has never gotten references in media or parodies showing that it left its mark. Hell I've seen older things like Zorro get referred to in media over Thundercats. Thundercats can be summarized as generally strange and unremarkable.
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>>153501642
Oh hey that He-Man game looks kinda cool, thanks for letting us know.

But concerning Thundercats, doesn't it also lack memorable bad guys outside of Mumm-Ra? TMNT had Bebop & Rocksteady, He-Man had Trapjaw, Beast Man, and a fuck ton of others, and don't even get me started with Transformers. I recall lizard people....thats it
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>>153487371
I thought this logo was a turtle skull the first time I ever saw it
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>>153501833
Thundercats does have variety of bad guys but the problem with said baddies is they don't have much fuel to leave an impression for a rogues gallery. Even things like Disney's Aladdin had a better returning cast of villains.

The only Thundercat villain that stood out to me is that priest who swore an oath to destroy Mummra making him an independent character who antagonized both Mummra and the Thundercats.
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>>153501833
The wierd moon people.
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>>153501953
>Even things like Disney's Aladdin had a better returning cast of villains.
Ouch. I remember Mechanicules, the death hand guy, the cat lady, and the mermaid. Still more memorable than the Thundercats side villains. Which is further supported by the fact that ITT we keep diverging into more interesting topics haha
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>>153502108
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What if we take an isekai approach with a bigger plot between the villain of the week episodes, like episode 2 they recover a helmet that by episode 9 is important amd the world around them does have changes the more the plot advances, it wouldn't hurt to see them having side questd, goals, personal accomplishments, in 2003 TMNT we all saw Baxter Stockman get worse with time, so you could grasp how far into the season you were while watching.
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>>153502126
Yeah.....These aren't doing it for me
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>>153496310
>fix/workshop Thundercats to be not-stupid?
Add more than a handful of voice actors to the original show so the guest star of the week doesn't sound like a stretched-too-thin voice actor trying their darndest not to sound like their main character voice?

Cheetarah doing a God-awful Clint Eastwood impression for Pandora's voice in the 80's was cringe even for kids at the time.

Also, SNARF starring in frazzled.rip
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>>153487479
>hecked out before the first season finished. The second time was TTGO but with Thundercats, and the faggot creators behind it were super pissy to fans who dared to tell them that they liked Thundercats and thought their show sucked. So much so that they had to make an episode where the original Lion-O showed up and told them how cool they were and how anyone who disliked them was a big dumb doo-doo head, because they were that insecure about their shitty show.

No, they didn't. That was a Teen Titans Go episode.
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>>153487371
>I'm shocked they never tried a live action film yet.
ALMOST. EVERY. Single. Character. would require extensive makeup, prosthetics, and or CGI. Do you even grasp what a BUDGET is? Look at Avatar's budget, minus the 3D conversion shit. Is the average Joe gonna flock to Thundera? Fucking think this shit through before you post.
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>>153489191
>huehuehue
>insert random 80's cartoon name
>lolimsorandom.jpg
oh my how quirky! le mega updoots!
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>>153503082
When has that ever stopped other movies with similar shit? It's not even hard makeup considering how un-cat Thundercats are
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>>153503260
>When has that ever stopped other movies with similar shit?
1980's MOTU with Dolph Lundgren. Forget Eternia, let's fart around on Earth, and avoid the majority of the other characters that would require lots of work for a film including Beast Man, Mer Man, etc, etc.
>It's not even hard makeup considering
I know you're not very bright, but it would take a lot of time and money every single shooting day to have it not be laughably bad and have it compared to the musical Cats. It gets tiresome dealing with you mentally stunted kids thinking you've solved every issue, when the world is not pounding down doors to get a Live Action Thundercats and studios prefer to spend money on projects they feel is more viable.

2011 Thundercats literally had just enough ratings to warrant another season and it was literally cancelled because it wasn't selling enough toys, the merchandise was rotting at Toys R Us. So, yes, dear, let's invest millions in a film that couldn't sell enough merchandise to justify a cartoon in 2011.

Yes, my guy, its SO fucking easy to do thats why almost NOBODY puts short-fur humanoid characters in every property these days. At best you get a Chewbacca with long ass fur to cover the seams on his costume. And then there's the villains. Unless you want a film starring Willa and Pandora versus Safari Joe, it's going to have a massive budget, or it'll pull an 80's MOTU and heavily feature a few characters mixed with normal humans so they don't have to make up the ENTIRE cast for every fucking scene.
>When has that ever stopped other movies with similar shit?
Name some "similar shit" movies. You know, ones that didn't cram in a bunch of normie human characters and modern day environments for sets.
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>>153503501
Dial back on the autism, anon. I'm fully aware of how taxing prosthetics are both mentally and financially. I'm not even pining for more Thundercats, merely making an observation. The makeup is fucking Star Trek level, which they have done fine for YEARS. The reason why it hasn't been done is simply low interest/demand.

OP's surprise is from Hollywood milking every franchise from that era, not because its popular.
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>>153503724
>The makeup is fucking Star Trek level, which they have done fine for YEARS.
>Dial back on the autism
I'm familiar with every single version of Star Trek, so which one had the ENTIRE cast if full fucking prosthetics? The first 30 years of Trek had ONE GUY with ear tips glued on. Which Star Trek did NOT mix in a ton normie humans without prosthetic work?
>AH KNOW HECKIN' EVERYTHING!!!
Obviously not how to motherfucking multiply! One or two prosthetic'ed up cast members surrounded by normie humans is literally 1980's Dolph MOTU and your example is literally more of the same with your shitty know-it-all attitude. You literally didn't come back with anything different from what I said. Even the heaviest use of Klingons never carried an entire film like you'd need with Thundercats. I was literally a background extra in the court room scene for ST6 and I wore a shitty rubber mask without a moveable mouth. There's no fucking way I was "camera-ready". You don't know jack shit but you talk like you do. Again, name me anything current that the MAJORITY of the cast weren't deep makeup or heavily CGI that wasn't an expensive budget and didn't cheap out by gobbling up screen time with normie human actors for a lot of screen time. Star Trek. Holy Fucking Shit you're just grasping at straws like a dipshit.
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>>153487587
Amazing how 2011 was far back enough that any muscle girl whatsoever was seen as an unattractive tranny devoid of femininity
That clearly looks female to me, minus the biceps
This would be seen as musclemommy-but-still-feminine by today's standards
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Thundercats 2011 was exactly the type of show tailor made to make kids mad, by constantly having the protagonist shat on. Imagine being a 10 year old, and watching the two-parter where Lion-O died, and no one really cared.
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>>153491018
Kids in the eighties didn't seem to have a problem with it, or when it was in reruns on toonami when I was a kid. Maybe you're just an idiot?
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>>153504510
That was the episode that made me hate all the characters, it made me go "If they all died I wouldn't care except for Lion O because he's already dead in this episode." And before anyone says "Kit cared about Lion O" you can smell how random that development was. Kit was a pointless character who didn't do anything to stop any of the bullying the other characters did. Basically she was indifferent to the adults being jackasses until that random episode where she inexplicably is attached to Lion O. And Lion O never did anything that would make him bond with the Kit in fact he found her annoying enough to initially leave her to rot after his capital was destroyed.

Honestly the entire show has an air of the characters being anti social and notably unpleasant. If these are the heroes then they're not compelling.
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>>153504176
Question; who raped you which gave you to lash out over nothing? You're making A LOT of assumptions and only getting yourself upset
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>>153487457
>For some reason the planet they land on is called third earth
That's because a lot got cut short due to budget and runtime.
>First they went to Earth, and were creeped out by the furries, so they left
>Then they went to Middle Earth, were told they shall not pass, and said if their pronouns weren't respected they were leaving
>THEN they arrived at Third Earth, and said "Berbils? Better than furries any day!"
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>>153505098
What "assumptions" have I made? You're the window licking retard that literally compared Star Trek to Thundercats in terms of prosthetics useage. You are a moron. While lashing out at "nothing", which, true, you are nothing, you're clearly retarded and making comparisons like one. You ignore what I clearly stated about Dolph's He-Man to insist that Star Trek did precisely what Thundercats would require. The stupidity is just staggering. Just stfu already.
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>>153505211
And again, why are you so mad? Who said anyone "knew everything"? You're either unhinged, on the spectrum, or just putting on a show to ragebait someone else. Or are you just trying to bump the thread? Because there's absolutely no reason for your behavior.
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>>153487371
It just... isn't that good.
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>>153504268
>This would be seen as musclemommy-but-still-feminine by today's standards

Lol, no she wouldn't.
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>>153491886
My brother
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>>153487371
Thundercats, from the very beginning, made less sense than the second half of Gargoyles.

The most recent series also was cringe AF.
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>>153487553
Avatar is way more simple.
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>>153497755
But... there are like five of them left and all they got to their name is a car.

It's like the Scooby-Do crew deciding to conquer the world and the government humoring them by sending the SCA to fight them.
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>>153500138
Prince Adam ended up in odd places.
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>>153487371
Because toys?
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>>153504588
>Missing the point this badly
Learn to read, faggot. We're talking about why the Thundercats don't get reboots and their convoluted backstory is a big reason why
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>>153505404
>ehrmagerd how DARE you disagree with me! What is wrong with YOU!
Wow dude. Just wow. I'm glad you solved the production's problems for them, you should like totally let them know you're on the case! Star Trek glued a few appliances to someones face, surely they can do convincing full body prosthetics on the entire cast without an astronomical budget!

Another case solved! Thanks plebbit!
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I think there's a simple explanation here:
They waited too long to reboot it

Transformers and TMNT both had reboots or sequel series in the 90s
He-Man got one in the very early 00s

Thundercats had reruns of like the first 30 episodes on Toonami. If you're not gonna reboot it at least keep it around longer



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