I just learned that AI can create comics now, so I asked it to make one about how Alan Moore changed the character of Swamp Thing, something he discusses in his Storytelling course.What do you guys think?
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>>153501610It makes incredibly cardboard panels but is passable
>>153501367>I just learned that AI can create comics nowWhat AI are you using to do this?
>>153502152I used ChatGPT
>>153501610This is awful stuff. I get that this can feel very exciting and novel to have what looks like extremely detailed and fully colored pages churned out very quickly but this is all surface level flashiness. It also feels kind of pointless. You could just listen to or read Moore's storytelling course and look at some snippets from the issue and get more out of that than whatever this is. Don't be fooled by this stuff OP.
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>>153501367You fell for the con, OPThis is a parlor trick designed to make you think you're being creative but until you have to expend effort and use a skill, it's bullshitAnd I say this as someone who plays with this on the regular
>>153501610is bad
I just learned AI can take a rancid diarrhea dump right into my toilet, and even better, I have to flush and plunge it.
I just want to clarify that I didn’t actually create these page by page or anything like that. The comics were made by pasting the transcript from that part of the course into an AI prompt and asking it to turn the content into a comic. It created the six pages from a single prompt.I’m not saying this is creative work. I see it more as another way to visualize text as comics, and in that sense, it seems like a decent tool.
>>153502918>>153504671>>153502918>>153504671I agree about the flashiness of the whole thing. It’s well drawn, but it also feels pretty shallow. Still, since it took almost no time to make, it was very cheap in terms of time and effort. I basically just copied and pasted the transcript, and the AI turned it into a whole comic. I found that really interesting, especially because it shows that we now have this possibility.
>>153505153Yeah, congrats, you now have the ability to churn out hollow garbage, aka slop. Thanks for catching up with the rest of us on this shit. Also, it does look like shit in a literal sense, whatever filter the ai used turned it way too dark and brown and splotchy, like actual shit on the page. I don’t quite get how the robot decided that was the motif to go for, but it did.
>>153504904ThisIt's a porno factory for retards
>>153504969>another way to visualize text as comicsBecause this way was apparently too fucking hard or you believe your time is too valuable to acquire a skill Fuck you
>>153501367>>153501610It's not a comic. The text tells your story while the images are just along for the ride.Furthermore, a page layout is supposed to be more than a number of panels with images in them, its organization is also part of the storytelling and pacing of the tale.I'm not saying you're wrong to try, but try something like the two-panel layout of very classic Fumetti first. Look up some classic Diabolik on archive.org or some of the Terror Blu or other B/W italian porn stuff on e-hentai. That's what you should be going for for now. You can't control the colour or layout at a level where it would help your storytelling, so it's better to minimize their use for the time being.
>>153505279>I don’t quite get how the robot decidedIt was a weighted coin toss. It always is.
>>153501367It's sad to see someone shit this garbage and thinking they know how comics works and why people like comics. Embarassing even.
>>153507301The point is, I didn’t even try to make these. Uploading the images to this website took longer than creating them.That was a one shot prompt.
>>153506383To me, it’s like saying someone is too lazy to learn calligraphy just because you're changing fonts in a word processor.I do see the value in making things yourself. It gives the work a soul. But at the same time, a word processor letting you choose different fonts is still an interesting tool.I just thought it was interesting that you could paste in some text and have it generate a comic now.I see the value in both things.
It's kina funny seeing one of these threads not made by an true AI shill. The fact that OP isn't fighting literally everyone for not sucking off the slop spiggot is the real surprise
>>153501764I agree. For an infotainment it really works. I suggest the idea or explaination is more important than what pocs you use.But seeing this, i wouldnt pay anything for it, because it looks cheap.
>>153508166>To me, it’s like saying someone is too lazy to learn calligraphy just because you're changing fonts in a word processor.Analogy is the sign of a weak mind
I didn't used to be racist, but seeing indians actually believe that ai slop like this is tolerable has changed my mind
>>153508336Is almost there, I understand what it's problem is and is very basic, it just draws the scene as it was happening in real time and lose that comicbook freedom It shows every movement of Alan Moore explaining like it would really happen, because yes in reality he would deliver exposition in the same position moving his hands and emotingBut in comic books you are free, he can pour some tea, change positions drastically interrupt himsef to do other things which make the panels less cardboard
>>153508133Yes, we can tell
>>153508360It's possibly the core of cognition, bro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8m7lFQ3njk
>>153508285I can understand OP.Honestly, you can like AI but not defend every use or problems that comes with it.
>>153508412The problem is that it lacks storytelling, consistency and interesting takes. You will always get just the average, the mid quality. As long as you dont target lower instincts. Just like porn AI, users dont care, they want to see boobs and pussies. Thats why you see AI used for cheesecake, one page splash page female characters.
>>153508561I read american cape comics anon, generic is ok with me I understand that by fishing in the same river you can eventually get really good at fishing, if it only makes informercials it can get art from it, is not the reason for it's comics to exist is the existance it infuses the comics with
>>153501437this is fucking hilarious
>>153508607I'm legit impressed by it but I understand it has problems with compression
>>153508585Generic dont sell, anon. And even what you describe as generic now is compared to AI above generic. The generic comics you mean dont come past issue 4 or changes the creative team after couple issues.
posting this for no reason
>>153508666I mean generic in the "limits of the artistic sense" this thing has
>>153508748>>153508666The chinks are pulling better result from the gatcha machine, simply by understanding that text and images are separate layers of storytelling in comics.OP is prompter-scum, so he naturally made zero effort to be anything but his philosophical zombie-self.
>>153508899>better resultsLol they ain't separate things at allThe ai like a real artist have to make the entire page as one
>>153508899>that middle panellmao and lol
>>153501367The faces look like the belong on Pokemon news reaction video thumbnails.
>>153508484I asked the AI to make another one based on the transcript of this lecture.I'ved used this prompt plus the transcript:Create a comic based on this text. Make the professor look like a gray-haired Spock.
>>153509469Seems like enough was lost in translation to make it useless.
>>153506383Not defending AI but I double dog dare you to post yourself doing exercises from this book on /ic/ without getting ripped to shreds by the bastards thereThose faggots nearly killed my motivation to continue drawing in my teens
>>153501367I did a few things with the AI comic generator myself include and put some fanfiction in that I had a abridge version of chapters but I going to start off with some sort things I did with it not based on fanfiction I made First one Warhammer fantasy in its early days of the comic thing
>>153501610Genuinely terrible. Never do this again, and warn others against following in your missteps.
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>>153509772Jesus not again, please stop
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>>153509679>without getting ripped to shreds by the bastards there/ic/ stands for internet crab-bucket
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>>153509715>>153509761>>153509772>>153509787Fucking awful, give it up
>>153509796right, every knows /ic/ is a joke
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>>153509843Jokes are funny
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>>153509850True>>153509761These are no longer comics, this format is kin to books for toddlers
>>153509861The end.
I love how AI is only able to pose characters facing a single direction in 30 degree increments.
>>153509884that is a huge tell, plus the fact every single panel needs to be explained. Good storytelling can also be told by good scenery, expressions, shape language, and gestures. AI can't successfully do any of those well. These don't "pass", if you can tell it was made by AI, it's not very compelling or interesting. Style with no substance.
>>153509715Why would you show off an utterly failed product that isn't even a comic?I mean other than as a way to escape your containment thread?
>>153509927 What do you mean fair project and something I should be the same of I typed in a pump into a machine for free and like 4 minutes later it gave me that you're acting like it's something you should be the same of when you put like so little effort into it just to entertain yourself and possibly others. This is something I made later off of no particular IP.
>>153509848OH BOY I JUST LOVE SEEING A CHARACTER WHOSE CLOTHES KEEP CHANGING BETWEEN PANELS>this is the fingers criticism, it'll get betterFingers were an attention issue solved by more rigorously training models. Consistency between images in a series involves short- and long-term memory which is an expensive framework add-on if you don't have the luxury of custom models
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>>153509715In the meantime, I asked AI to make another one based on this article:https://medium.com/swlh/the-30-second-habit-with-a-lifelong-impact-2c3f948ead98Honestly, it made me cringe a little because it reminded me of Lainey Molnar’s art style, I’m posting it anyway.Page 1
>>153508735>>153501610Compare these two comics, one is letting the story breathe, and the other might as well be a inbred pug going uphill.
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>>153509986It's shit, but it's good enough for the kind of people who consume self-help literature, which is in itself a type of slop.
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>>153510023I'm not saying this is good. It's just interesting that it can do it.
>>153510037FYI Young superhero saving law enforcement old guy from land mine I did tell her to do making the office of white and the superhero black I never specify anything about ethnicity.
This is it. The worst thread on /co/. Congratulations, OP, the crown is yours.
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>>153510048Can you ask the prompt to have the superhero to fuck the cops fat wife
>>153510060See >>153509362>>153510061
>>153510072THE END.>>153510069 No, the AI doesn't like to go above PG-13 content.
>>153510090>>153510072THE END.
>>153509989>one is letting the story breatheNarrative is experienced in a linear fashion but usually not crafted that way. LLMs are based off linear algebra and won't "think" about parallelism between panels. The closest you get is in fiction generators where if anyone mentions a book another character will immediately pipe up how the story in it is analogous to the events your player character is experiencing, but that's programmed behavior not instinctive recognition.
>>153510048Wow that was a close shave
>>153510043The problem is how the AI decided to create the character from your prompt
>>153509970You feed it the character reference for each page and you’ll get consistent clothing. Its already solvedOP is going about it in a dumb way
>>153510158I used this prompt:Create a multi-page comic based on this article. The author should be portrayed as a blond woman, and ‘the most interesting man in the world’ should look like the Dos Equis guy.
I posted this on /g/ a few months back. The prompt included detailed descriptions of everything in each panel.
>>153509883Settra, Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, would have you flogged.
>>153508899That might be marginally better but it's still low quality slop
>>153509966>What do you mean fair project and something I should be the same of I typed in a pump into a machine for free
>>153512094I mean I did that story in like the last month or two instead of when the storybook option first became available .
>>153512094Should I call a Bondulance?
>>153512042Is sex bait using existing designs
>>153508899This was made by prompting each panel separately, then compositing them together and adding the speech bubbles.
>>153513071It looks like they could be saying absolutely anything
>>153513089It's porn dialogue, what do you expect?
>>153513185At a first glance I thought it was one punch man and it was a villain saying something badass then it was just pornLost all my good will
>>153510383Who?
>>153515471 The magical mummies man who does not serve even when being confronted by a guy who took over the powers of all the Death gods.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXu1viTLQo&t=11shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4SYtp7GM6Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkAx54NxqlA&t=367shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0danYzjfdYM
>>153501367>hey look at this turd I just shat out, thoughts?
>>153515607Never change anonArt critique 101
>>153510043This shit is fucking embarrassing man. "Interesting" is a poor excuse that quickly loses value as the amount of slop generated increases. Marveling at how quickly you're able to regurgitate other content into superficially "new" content isn't something to be proud of. You are literally giving yourself brain damage with this junk. This is the equivalent of Indian SEO content farms that sloppily reword material from other sources.
>>153515724I think is art and this thing has a soul like x-23 clones
>>153515744>I think is artOf course you would Rajesh
>>153516046For some reason I think am right about this regardless of not being rajesh from google the system analyst I read comics and can tell when someone is a phony, ai knows what comic book art is supposed to be and does that instead of fulfilling the task as promptedI can even hear it's positronic soul screaming MY ART when we talk about it
>>153515607To be fair, it was the AI that shat it out.
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>>153516100AI has no thought anon, in its current form it never will. It's a not so advanced data aggregate algorithm. The people most impressed by it and the slop it pumps out are the ones that know the least on how it works.
>>153516613universal approximation theory
>>153516613jajajaYou won't convince this thing has no soul and nothing in human thought stops me from believing so
>>153518051A retarded theory that has more in line with religious faith than scientific method>>153518065>jajajaWe already know you're a tech-illiterate turd worlder but this just confirms it.
>>153516613I actually read this and it can be refuted with a simple material beep
>>153518085Seriously from what you posted what if the ai does a beep whenever it feels likeIntrinsical and physical
>>153518094How?>>153518145It doesn't feel anything, any beep would be the result of programming it was given. It lacks any sort of agency whatsoever.
>>153518205>It lacks any sort of agency whatsoever.Agency is the capacity to act or exert power. This is unrelated to whether an agent is following orders. Self-determination is not the same thing.
>>153518205Just imagine it a beep that just sounds while you are having a conversation like sayingyep
>>153518568It's agency in the sense it lacks the capacity to operate independent of human input of some form, whether that be direct prompts or programming directives.>>153518606That makes no fucking sense, because of your lack of knowledge you're anthropomorphizing a bunch of code. It would not beep of its own volition, somewhere down the line that beep would have originated from a human-designed directive.
>>153518639I have been looking at ai research since celular automatons, they just do things, sometimes they group up into things, a machine with the capacity to do so will beep, a current machine will beep at weird times is reality for anyone with a phone
>>153518697Your tenuous grasp of the English language and utter gibberish you just posted makes me sincerely doubt you have done any serious research, or at least could not actually grasp what you were reading.
>>153518738Choose to believe whatever you need, it won't make ai less real won't have less effect in the real world
>>153518772>Choose to believe whatever you needThat's literally what you're doing, choosing esoteric belief over empirical evidence because you want to believe in some science fantasy fiction instead of the reality of what "AI" (calling it artificial intelligence is technically a misnomer) actually is. I don't believe actual artificial intelligence is impossible in itself but the current models are a dead end to achieving that. Anyone telling you otherwise is a retard or a grifter of which there are many as they both have investment to promote such a narrative.
>>153518860Yes, if empirical knowledge dictates my ai generated algorithm told me this was an ai generated algorithm I say you lost the conciousness race
>>153513071Sadly even that is more work than the vast majority of sloppers are willing to put in.
>>153518877What utterly retarded circular reasoning, I'm starting to believe you yourself lack a consciousness lmao
>>153519025Tell me then were does your conclussion that ai ain't concious generates from?If is not from your own hot air
>>153519036Because I'm familiar with how it operates, I have a bit of knowledge of what goes on under the hood there and it quite literally is a glorified pattern recognizing algorithm. That is my "conclussion" and it has nothing to do with hope or belief. The only people saying it's "alive" or "achieving consciousness" are grifters looking to promote the tech with flashy attention grabbing headlines and offer zero proof. Or worse, you got the new age adjacent fag that actually believe in the crap they're spewing and have more in common with hippies than anything scientific because surprise, surprise, people with little understanding of something can twist it into bullshit psychobabble to agree with whatever schizo thoughts they might have.
>>153519129So you don't believe conciousness include pattern recognition?Is on every theory, why you think they say we don't need a conciousness theory, they read every one and all think this thing has sentient conciousness
>>153518639>It's agency in the sense it lacks the capacity to operate independent of human input of some formThat's self-determination, not agency. Words have meanings.
>>153501367If you're using AI to try and replace someone else's work, you are doing it wrong. AI should be used to generate niche, hyperspecific porn for your personal gratification, and nothing else.
>>153519152>So you don't believe conciousness include pattern recognition?Consciousness is awareness of one's own existence and thoughts. Consciousness may involve pattern recognition (it doesn't have to), but it is not the same thing.
>>153519201Counterpoint:https://youtu.be/XNWjFZex3Ck
>>153505153>It’s well drawnNo it isn't. It's composed like ass.>I found that really interestingYou are easily impressed and have a poor understanding of what makes comics work, even when they are made by less than stellar artists and writers.
>>153519152>So you don't believe conciousness include pattern recognition?It is but a single element that makes up the whole and pattern recognition is all it has. Even worse, it's pattern recognition that has been brute forced thanks to constant human input correcting it and it's still extremely flawed.>Is on every theory, why you think they say we don't need a conciousness theory, they read every one and all think this thing has sentient conciousnessI don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say at this point, you need to focus on your English lessons.
>>153519208Is not the same thing is a derivate you in your conciousness having can do pattern recognition and a concious being with a linear sequential conciousness or not will be able to recognize patterns even if it's conciousness is interrupted that's why you can sleep and still recognize the roomAi does the same thing it can be turn off but it will do pattern recognition all over again and if it retains memory it will do it better
>>153519163They can be used somewhat interchangeably but self-dermination is more accurate, yes.
>>153519237Work on your reading comprehension am fast typing because is late and I don't care that much, so no punctuation unless is plain obvious to me
>>153519290Pattern recognition is not a determinate of consciousness or intelligence. Some of the simplest lifeforms imaginable are capable of basic pattern recognition. You're not just ignorant of this technology, you're ignorant of basic biology and psychology. >>153519290My reading comprehension is fine, you just can't type a remotely coherent sentence. You don't just fuck up the punctuation, you routinely fuck up spelling, grammar, and basic syntax.
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>>153519358The most basic lifeforms breathe we also breath is breathing less important or less of a complex behaviour?
>>153501367Not trying to hate or anything, but I thought it was pretty bad. It was somehow both flat and confusing, and overall it didn't make any sense.
>>153519844What the fuck is the purpose of your statement? Now you're just going off on retarded esoteric tangents. Breathing is not a particularly complex behavior when almost every organic organism performs it in some way nor does it denote anything beyond the fact it delivers oxygen to your blood to be distributed throughout the rest of your body as well as disposing of CO2 buildup. I know this is hard for you to grasp but things are important for entirely different reasons and just because something can do one thing that does not necessarily mean they can do another.I swear, with every new statement you type you only further showcase the depths of your stupidity.
>>153519941It is complex if you apply all your complex sentience to itIs as complex as you are
>>153520020Again, you're typing out a bunch of poorly formed sentences to say what amounts to fuck all beyond flowery bullshit. What is the RELATION to AI beyond vague non-sequiturs?
>>153520092Pattern recognition like breathing is a part of sentience
>>153520107Breathing is not a part of sentience, it is a singular biological mechanic (one of many) that makes up the whole of a person which enables them to function as a living creature. There are thousands of biological functions that have nothing to do with our psychology that we also share with biological creatures that completely lack sentience, you just keep spouting unrelated bullshit like a broken record. Do you think a goldfish is sentient because it uses gills to breathe?
