Airbenders have a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT bender rate. Not 99%, not 95%, 100%.Every single Airbender who was ever born from the air nomad's bloodlines was an airbender. How the FUCK can Bumi not be an airbender, its literally impossible.Kya you can at least justify that her chi pathways aligned genetically with waterbending but there is no possible way that a descendant of an airbender could not be an airbender if they weren't already another bender.Also why didn't Aang force Bumi and Kya to breed like crazy? They still have airbender blood in them, they could just as easily have produced more airbenders if they didn't produce waterbenders.
>>153501912The show is stupid. They care about story ideas not world building and internal logic.
aang being monogamous was a mistake
>>153501912Is he really from the airbender tribe, couldn't he be a kid they pick up somewhere?
>>153502016Katara birthed from Aang's seed. There should have been only 1 of 2 outcomes. Either his Chi aligned with waterbending or his chi aligned with airbending.
>>153501912Bending isn't 100% genetic. Genetics only gives you the potential to bend, which very often won't develop if the person isn't trained/spiritual/doesn't embody the traits of that element Old Airbenders had a 100% rate because of their lifestyle. They were all monks, you need to be spiritual and detached to be an Airbender. Bumi did not live that kind of life, so his genetic potential to Airbend wasn't met
>>153501912maybe they practice infanticide so the only survivors are air benders by default? fly or sink as they say
>>153502045>>153502044>Everyone has the potential to bendNo, Wan's backstory proves that only those that had lionturtle powers were benders. If you don't have the chi in your body to bend from your bloodline, you will never bend, it all goes back to the lionturtles. 100% of Air nomads come from air nomads that had lionturtle chi openings.And no, every single air nomad was a bender. ALL of them. From fucking childhood 5 year olds were able to do it without even having training.This is consistent with Meelo is airbending at 5 years old. We see likewise in Aang's childhood that toddlers are airbending.>Its because of their lifestyleMEELO, IKKI, AND JINORA WEREN'T RAISED IN ACTUAL AIRBENDING CULTURE. They are all modern and unspiritual in personality despite them occasionally doing some airbender culture shit. They were clearly just modern kids.>>153502104Airbenders were the most pacificist society that they were vegetarians because of how sacred they considered life. They fucking jobbed to the fire nation because they refused to kill.
>>153502000/threadAang should have had a harem of women breeding the new Airbender race. They could have even played into the "muh diversity" shit by making some of the women and girls he impregnate be brown. Fucking missed opportunity if you ask me.
>>153502150Aangs grandfather murdered a fuckton of fire soldiers. PS.In chinese culture, trees are seen as alive.
>>153502184The show was written by American Protestants glazing Tibetan Buddism, they consider plants as non-living. Also Gyatso wasn't his grandfather and he fought in self-defense. But the only way the air nomads could have lost with them having the overwhelming numbers of benders is if they just refused to kill meaning the fire nation could keep coming and coming until they killed all the air nomads.
>>153502207It grows keeps homostasis and even dies, I fail to see how a tree is anything but alive
>>153502207A true pacifist who believed in the afterlife would rather die then harm someone else.
>>153502242Western dietary views see vegetables as non-living because they aren't conscious. Vegetarianism and Veganism are based on the premise of infringing on sentient life, and plants aren't considered sentient in the Western dietary tradition.
>>153501984FPBP. My guess is the creators have an emasculation fetish. Just look at Sokka, fucking Ma-Ti wasn't as useless. Also, female water elemental? How original.
>>153502000Couldn't airbenders technically genocide other races because they have a 100% chance of having a bender kid?
>>153502044Despite being twin sisters, one of Azula's teachers wasn't a bender.
>>153502682Neither Lo nor Li were benders.
>>153502682neither Lo nor Li were firebenders. Also Firebenders don't have 100% firebender bloodlines like airbenders do. The entire population of the air lionturtle got airbending, only a fraction of the other lionturtle peoples got bending and are able to pass it on through eugenics (see Roku's bloodline used for azula and Zuko)
>>153502732Oh, I thought only one wasn't
>>153502744Even if Eugenics worked, the mere act of having children isnt eugenics.
>>153501912all the air nomads being airbenders was chalked up to their high, uniform spirituality as a people. Bumi obviously isn’t like that.
>>153502000He could just blow his sperm into women with magic artificial insemination.
>>153502307Plants can feel, communicate, and think. This is all backed by science and most naturalistic socities cults and religions to ever exist. Vegetarians are just un selfaware picky eaters.
>>153503108>Plants can feel, communicate, and think. This is all backed by science[citation needed]
>>153503075I would rather blow massive hot loads in women after some sex. PS. Its known that orgasms increase the chance of pregnancy and helps women throughout pregnancy. So...im keeping hydrated taking the big nut supps and bring my A game. I dont like having to do that thing where I can lick their cunt and fuck at the same time. But the fate of the world is in my hands.
>>153501912>How the FUCK can Bumi not be an airbenderHe literally is though?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PEKgY9e348
Why didnt the airbenders just suck all the oxygen away from the firebenders flames?
>>153502000Wisdom
>>153501912Aang chi blocked him.
if I was aang, I would of shamed women for not having sex with me, being that im an air nomad avatar and my people are extinct.They'd never say no, due to the implications.
>>153502000SPBP (but it's an American kids show)
>>153501912Maybe it was because air benders were only fucking air benders? Aang was the last air bender, no air bender wife means chance of no air bender child.
>>153502150How can you be this retarded anon?Korra could also airbend, genetically, but was completely unable because of her shitty behavior. Hence season 1 of her show. Why shouldn't Bumi be that case?
>>153501912>Airbender have a 100% bender rateAnon, in case you had your eyes covered while watching the show, the aibenders did communal raising of the children. Hence we why never know Aang's parents. Culturally they're peak communist. So what you saw wasn't all the kids, but rather all the bender kids (and none of their parents). Who knows what these nutjobs so to the non bender kids.
>>153501912There's a problem with your logic when you're rejecting evidence to the contrary that's placed right in front of you
>>153503162Plants feelinghttps://www.livescience.com/stressed-plants-scream-and-it-sounds-like-popping-bubble-wrapPlants thinkinghttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/12/23/the-intelligent-plantPlants communicatinghttps://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/05/04/993430007/trees-talk-to-each-other-mother-tree-ecologist-hears-lessons-for-people-toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOFPqbvD-vE
>>153503255They are pacifist. The ones that also killed the firebenders since a quick vacuum rapidly suffocated them.
>>153505359Why isn't Bumi a water bender then?
>>153501912None of the air nomads race mixed
>>153501912There is no reason to believe all the air nomads were benders. It's not like the temples were throwing children off the cliffs for being non-benders. The non-benders are probably just background characters.But considering that all of Aang's childhood friends were benders, we can conclude that the temples probably had segregation.
>>153506115Korra did not achieve airbending by character development or something similar, she did because having all her elements bloodbended away opened up her inner airbending paths. It's stupid, but it's what canonically happened.
>>153501912Bumi was half muggle and a quarter water bender. Air benders have high birthrate because they practiced strict eugenics with other dragon turtle unlocked air benders
>>153506236All speculative
>>153501912Yeah but waterbenders don’tIf his bending gene traits come from katara he’s shit out of luck, because of her 4 known family members she was the only bender and even among the greater tribe she was the only bender in the gene pool
>>153501912>Airbenders have a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT bender rate. Not 99%, not 95%, 100%.Source?
>>153502307I love how they define non sentient as those that don't talk to meLike natives not having souls until they learn english
>>153501912>Airbenders have a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT bender rate. Not 99%, not 95%, 100%.Gonna need a citation for this one, big dog.
>>153502892The Firelords assured that their bloodlines were as pure firebender as possible and even supplemented it with the strongest firebenders (see Roku's bloodline).If you allow even a single drop of non-bender into your bloodline, you remove the guarantee that you're a firebender. Thats why all the firelords for all the history of the fire nation are firebenders while the Earth Queen was a non-bender and Souther Water Tribe Chief Hakoda were non-benders.>>153503108Nigga we didn't have studies showing plants could feel, communicate, or think in these abstract ways in 2005 when the show was written.>>153504789Why would Aang take the bending away from his firstborn?>>153505359No we know how genetics and bending is passed down in Avatar. You have to be of the bloodline of someone who received lionturtle elemental chi. If you don't have that chi path opened via their energybending, you can't guarentee your descendant is going to be a bender. We know this from Fire Nation Eugenics. 100% of Airbenders had Air Chi unlocked by lionturtles. This is why 100% of their population for all of history were all airbenders. So an air bender will always pass air chi down to their descendants.>>153506204What evidence? Airbenders 100% produce airbenders, never non-benders.>>153509016Its in the show, the guide books, and you can't name a single non-bender air nomad ever.
It's wild that the free loving air nomad were explicitly eugenic so they never had non-benders in their race.No air nomad ever fell in love with another race.
>>153502000Bigger question is WHY he was monogamous when his culture was literally about untethered free love to the point the elders took babies from their mother's.
>>153502104I thought that was a cloud and he was throwing the dog out of a plane
>>153501912My guess is that the 100% rate is only if two airbenders get together. If you an airbender gets together with an another bender or nonbender it gets diluted and the chances drop. Katara is a waterbender and most of her family is nonbenders. So chances that gives a high chance to get nonbender or waterbender if you get together with her.Ty Lee almost 100% has airbender genes but she isn't one probably because they bred with nonbenders/firebenders.
>>153513820Ty Lee had 8 twins, none of which is a firebender
>>153515096notice that the post didn’t say her parents were benders?
>>153501912Bryke are a couple of retards who couldn't keep their own lore straight because they didn't actually write most of it.
He could have failed at the spiritual level.
>>153510678>steal babies>separate genders into two different nomadic groupsIf this shit existed IRL there would be so much kiddie diddling going on
>>153515214There is no spiritual level. All Air nomads are airbenders 100%. They all have Chi of the Air Lionturtle, so unless his chi path was aligned with waterbendering to take up his chi pathways, there is no way a child of an airbender could be a nonbender.
>>153515806Well that was in the past were they lived meditating and frolicking with the bisonsModern airbenders don't live such a spiritually rich life
>>153515897why are you talking about spirituality as if a non-bender could just become an airbender. Wan's backstory proved its 100% genetic. Only those given the power of bending in their chi are able to bend the elements. Air Nomads are 100% eugenically Airbenders by their own breeding practices. Their people all received airbending from the lionturtles and they never bred outside of their people.
>>153516158So in essence the firebenders are partially justified.
>>153516225Fire nation were nationalists so they carried for both the benders and non-benders.
>>153516158Yeah no, spirit bending, genetic or weird magical thing gifted by giant turtle?
>>153501912>>153515806Airbender x Airbender is 100% AirbenderWaterbenders are not 100% Waterbenders (like Sokka)Obviously Airbender x Waterbender crossbreeding has 50% Airbender chance, 25% Waterbender chance, 25% nonbender chance.
>>153502682There was a set of twin boys in the fortune teller episode where one of them was a bender and the other wasn't.You may be thinking of them.
>>153516847in other words where A is dominant allele Airbender, W is dominant allele Waterbender, and aw is recessive allele nonbenderAang was Aa, Katara was Ww, so their offspring genepool is Aw (Airbender), aW (Waterbender)AW (Either Air or Waterbender)aw (Nonbender)
>>153516889*also this presumes that aa recessive is a lethal allele, meaning no fetus with both recessive a's implants and grows
>>153509913>Why would Aang take the bending away from his firstborn?Bending circumcision.
>>153516889There is no recessive allele for airbenders. They are fully dominant
>>153502000canonically Aang should have seen betrothal necklaces, marriage, and monogamy as foreign and different to him considering he spent 90% of his whole life in the southern air temple.
>>153516914This also presumes they descend from air bisons, like directly from air bisons because airbending is genetic
>>153517550he didn’t, he travelled around and knew random shit like saying flameo hotman and visited places in the middle of bumfuck nowhere like that ice float. They’re nomads, they move around.
>>153516817They had benders and expendable slaves.
>>153501912What if Tenzin rejected learning Airbender culture and went full Water Tribes nationalist and started a unification revolution?
>>153502000haha funny monke image :D
>>153517731isn't weird that Katara and Sokka were literally royalty in the Southern Water Tribe but lived like ghetto bums?Isn't Kya technically the Southern Water Tribe Chief seeing how Sokka didn't have any kids?
>>153517426you can have 100% of your kids come out with your phenotype and still have a recessive variant of the gene. It just requires that recessive gene is a lethal allele (if they have double recessive the baby doesn't form, so 100% of the births have a Dominant allele)
>>153518048they weren’t royalty at all, Katara made fun of Sokka for calling himself that. The chief was elected.
>>153511896That's impossible, you always need to shoot someone before throwing them out of a plane, that's basic knowledge.
>>153518159Sweet lion turtle jesusDid you people missed the whole show they train their bending and have tribe specific bending because they make spiritual treaties with spiritual animalsThey don't genetically descend from bisons, moles, koi fish and dragonsThey are people from tribes that made pacts with demi gods, is a 100% spiritual shitOr they had a lot of bestiality pick your poison
>>153518378Yeah sure, I liked the learning from animals idea from ATLA a lot better than Raava too.I'm just saying that "100% success rate when interbreeding between airbenders" like OP is complaining of, doesn't mean there'd be 100% success when crossbreeding with waterbenders, if we're assuming it's purely genetic. And how alleles work irl matches with that, that's why crossbreeding between races can produce results (often diseases) that don't ever pop up when breeding with your own race.
>>153518456Dude every generation you have an avatar That goes around the world saying Remember that genetic bullshit look am from another tribe I do your bending
>>153518317We literally have a plotline in Korra where it is revealed the water tribe chiefs are by bloodline. For Sokka's dad to be the southern chief, he had to have been part of the cheiftain's bloodline.
>>153518378According to the post-wan lore, Bending is 100% innately genetic. Wan could firebend without ever learning the dragon's dance or how to spiritually connect with the sun. Likewise all Benders were like this. Just the descendants of people who have lionturtle chi. Katara ACCIDENTLY waterbends without any spirituality or training, it is innate to her person. Likewise you can have literal Air Nomad scholars like Zaheer never magically unlock airbending naturally. It was just magically gifted to him and others by harmonic convergence.We are NEVER shown a non-bender just magically getting bending. Its always innate. And the eugenics of the Fire Lords proves that they knew that having any non-bender blood in your bloodline was a threat to the likelihood of someone being a bender.So no, the Air Nomads didn't just "spirit" it up to get Airbending, they all are descendants of air nomads who all took the airbending from the lionturtle with them and never bred outside of their culture.
>>153518910Is not genetic they are tribe members and whatever pact they had extends to their descendantsThat's the point of the avatar going around making individual pacts with all this entities why it role is to be a link to the spiritual world and literally talk to spirits and such
>>153518944No human ever bent the elements without lionturtle chi. We know benders have chi that is distinct to other benders and non-benders from Katara's statements in Korra.We know from the Fire Lords that eugenics guarantees firebending.And we know that air nomads had a 100% bender rate, meaning that everyone who lived on the air lionturtle were gifted airbending and they only bred within their own people.
>>153519145The lionturtle does whatever it wants, it can bend whatever element using anyone it feels like it, it can remove bending from people completely That's another one when did you heard your genetical traits being removable
Kya being gay must of shattered Aang deep down, knowing that one of his only possible bloodlines to create new airbenders shut down the prospect of procreating.No wonder Tenzin was pushed so hard.
>>153519191Its a deus ex tortoise. Its stupid as shit.
>>153501912Why didn't ang just energy bend bumi with some air chi? Why didn't he also do it for the acolytes? Was he stupid
>>153520026the turtle only taught him how to take away bending, because after they made wan the avatar they said they wouldn’t give any more bending out
>>153502000Aang not going back to add that one fire nation school girl to his harem is the biggest pile of horseshit ever conceived
>>153519432Am ok with an ancient powerful intelligent turtle just knowing things and showing up at critical momentsIs not dumber to me than the moon being a koi fish being a person
