Why does Garth Ennis consider Captain America disrespectful? Jack Kirby and Joe Simon were both vets and WW2 soldiers ate those comics up
>>153507110he's a wannabe armyfag
>>153507110Soldier Boy wasn't even portrayed as immoral or evil, just as a naïve pushover, but still gets the worst of it out of every member of Payback (even if was off-panel).
He finds the use of comic characters being written to glorify war/act as propaganda, not necessarily the character himself
because captain america isn't some gruff bearded baddass tier one operator with sunglasses
>>153507110He's pretty much like those fat white woman who gets upset on behalf of minorities
>>153507110I wish you were read some comicbooks.
>>153507110>Jack Kirby and Joe Simon were both vetsJoe Simon staffed a desk in the Coast Guard during the war. Jack Kirby, on the other hand, saw front line action.And Captain America was created before either went into the service.None of that exonerates Garth Ennis from any criticism.
>>153507175But his entire sense of self is predicated by the idea that WWII was good guys vs bad guys just like the propaganda he vilifies.
>>153507175Action focused media unavoidably glorifies violence in some way. Maybe he should stop writing fucking superhero comics if he has a problem with that.
>>153508193It's not unavoidable, you can avoid it by not doing it. You can depict issue without making it cool
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>>153508230Did you think "man, raping is so cool" after you read watchmen?
>>153508251No, because it’s always good
>>153507110>Why does Garth Ennis consider Captain America disrespectful?Because Ennis is an English cunt and after seeing how England turned out in the end America was better off letting Hitler conquer it.
>>153507202All Garth Ennis wants to write are leather clad gun toting psychos. Like the punisher or his super original character donut steel butcher, who is just the punisher with a cockney accent. Or how about his other oc: hitman? A leather clad, gun toting psycho with an IRISH accent! Sometimes he'll branch out and try something new, like when he wrote for judge dredd. A black leather clad psycho with a gun! Optimistic, colourful superheroes like Captain America go against his every edgy fantasy of having everyone he disagrees with violently raped/murdered so naturally he resorts to wojack level "critique". He sits alongside mark Millar in writers who are physically in their 50's but mentally still just an edgy teenager
>>153508179I disagree, while he sounds like he thinks nazis bad he understands that leveling someone's country because their high command took stupid decisions is inherently bad
>>153508340I remember when Ennis ended up somehow being hired to write The Shadow, who is arguably the genesis of the dark gun-wielding vigilante comic characters, and he never even made him wear his costume and do his thing more than once in the entire run, and at the end Ennis can't even disguise his boner for the Hiroshima bombing
>>153508312Based if true.
>>153508312Ennis is embodying the worst aspects of the WW2-boomerslop mentality and the edgy liberal atheism of the early 2000's. No chance in hell he was sympathising with the nazis. Granted, in some of his comics the Wehrmacht was portrayed in that safe-centrist ,,some of them are hecking good liberals like us and are just forced to fight for the hecking evil moustache man" if memory serves correct, but that was a common stance at the time.
I don't know how to tell you this or how you haven't long since came to this conclusion, but ennis is a pretty big faggot in general.
>>153507110Garth is a faggotReading the boys is a humiliation ritual, more so than the show funny enough
>>153507110He's a pretty stupid character.
>>153509446It's all just so tiresome to slog through. No nuance almost every superhero is just a dumb, racist, drug addict who gets humiliated and violently murdered by the punisher (butcher). It feels more like Ennis just needed to read something else if he hates superheroes so much instead of generating so much hate wank rubbish.
>>153508382How do you fight a war?
>>153507110Someone got the edit with Ennis's face on soldier boy and Kirby calling him a cunt?
>>153508421And that's still better than Simon Spurrier's run. What is up with brits not getting how to write american characters.
>>153509446>>153509465It is frankly a perfect distillation of why Ennis needs a top tier tard wrangler in the editing room to keep him on a short leash. The punchline is usually rape, soldiers are always some breed of evil and/or incompetent (the warrior personality in general, really), and his idea of "gritty reality" is that there's someone pissing themselves and getting raped. Once you recognize that potato muncher's formula, you'll always know what direction his stories will go in.Unrelated, but adding to how much I hate Paddy Dipshit's Rape Parade is the sheer amount of worship he gets, especially for Punisher MAX. It follows the formula, and turns Frank Castle into a psychopathic time bomb; he was going to turn into a mass-murderer regardless, his family being shot was just an accelerant.
>>153508439>some of them are hecking good liberals like us and are just forced to fight for the hecking evil moustache man" if memory serves correct, but that was a common stance at the time.yeah but i think that mostly due to him being nostalgic for British comic strips like HellHammer, which had the lead be a German Panzer captain but wasn't a Nazi
>>153507110>>153507114Zoomers, such as yourself will never understand any of the post 9/11 comics or what the feeling of the time was.
>>153507175But Ennis absolutely glorifies war. He's constantly wanking off the British army (despite them being chock full of war criminals who shot civilians in Northern Ireland). Dude is just a hypocrite
>>153509825Seething
>>153510458cope
>>15350993580's punisher is best. Calm, professional soldier fighting a one man war is infinitely better than some crazed psycho who seems to be just as sadistic as the people he's fighting.
>>153511238Go back to your tiktoks little zoomer boy.
>>153507110Because Ennis is a neverserved who projects like a motherfucker.
>>153512497he's right - cope faggot and cry harder tranny
>>153512572Samefag retard
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>>153510458Us zoomers were GROWING UP in that time faggotI remember the war on terror being on the news all the time and shows like family guy taking shots at Bush back then >t. 98 fagHistory is repeating itself with trump and Iran lmao
>>153512809I meant that the brits seethe.
OP’s premise isn’t grounded in anything but anons will back up literally any fantasy if it’s presented as a question in need of explaining.
>>153507110Why would anyone care what an Irishman thinks of captain america
>>153508312>seeing how England turned out in the end America was better off letting Hitler conquer it.It's not like America is any better.
>>153512949Because he writes in the industry.
>>153507110Most critics don't actually engage with the source material outside of vibes and covers.
>>153507890>And Captain America was created before either went into the service.This actually makes Ennis side worse, since they received death threats for it.
Remember that stupid “ the kids of today should defend themselves against the 90s” thing?I’ve realized that shouldn’t mean Rob Liefeld’s goofy art or anything. It should mean against this sort of trite, atheistic cynicism mistaken for anything of merit or good satire.
>>153510458Nah, I watched it as it happened, Ennis is just part of the Gen Xer 90s edge.
>>153510506If you're a Marine - especially a Royal Marine, although an American will do - then Garth's biggest problem is that he can't suck your dick and lick your asshole at the same time.
>>153512949He's not Irish though
Garth Ennis is a huge fag
>>153512841Zoomer please, you’re claiming to have been under the age of three and remember watching family guy making fun bush?
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>>153514693Everybody and everything was making fun of Bu(ll)sh(it), up to Obama's second mandate.Beating bush was a pretty common thing in kongregate or newgrounds' games.
>>153508179yuphe's a pussy
you don't understandit's so deep to kill people when you should've saved them if the justice league jobs to bad writing and has no defenses for exactly this scenario
>>153514882>Not just typing out bush Wannabe women are vile
>>153515060Take it easy, bitch
>>153515060Anon... I was just giving an example, Bush jokes were inescapable back then.
New to Boy, Crossed, Ennis as a whole. Can someone please sum him and his works up?
>>153516062Consistently "Hurr hurr wouldn't it be edgy if [X]? Old comic books would never let me write about [X]!", "HARRUMPH! They won't let me write about [X] at [insert publisher]! Here's an Avatar Press slopfest that's all about [X], [Y], and [Z]!", or "Hurr that's stupid and offensive to my borderline commie potato muncher sensibilities! I'll write a wish-fulfillment parody where they get raped."
>>153516126Oh…so he thinks he’s the second coming of Alan sans insight and tact. Ok, thank you!
>>153507110Why does this comic make people seethe so much? is it because it’s too “mean-spirited” for you autists?
>>153516497Alan Moore isn't much better, he just has the sense to not use rape as a punchline at every opportunity.
>>153516594It is crass and juvenile to the extreme. It is a grotesque sideshow of an out of touch hibe jacking off into his own mouth with a smug, self-satisfied smile; "Oh, you think this is gross? That's the point."
/co/ once again proving that they are too dumb for Ennis.
>>153516742Nobody cares about your shittaste, faggot
>>153514837Thank you very much.
>>153512890Sorry, when people dont clarify, they usually mean (you).
>>153516652Though he did have the Justice League caricatures in Top Ten be phonies and child molesters.
