Revenge of the Sith is the only good Star Wars movie so this list is wrong by default.

>>153538949
They're no George Lucas

>>153538949
>>How did Disney damage Star Wars so badly?
Didn't plan out their trilogy
Made past accomplishments irrelevant to have their trilogy
Got in a director who wanted to subvert expectations because... reasons
Cobbled together a mess of a finale with an undeserved return of a villain (which, again, invalidates previous entries)
Listened to 'modern audiences'
Used their best new series to showcase spin-offs instead of allowing it to remain it's own thing, far removed from all the other nonsense.
Over reliance on Jedi everywhere.

It's not a great idea to listen to the hardcore fans for everything, but you should specifically seek to shit all over them because you'll be shitting over what made the series great somewhere in there.

>>153538997
>but you shouldN'T specifically seek
Mea culpa

>>153538997
>It's not a great idea to listen to the hardcore fans
They lityerally ignored them and then publically spit in their face.

>>153538961
No

pleased to see the best movie still topping

>>153538949
No one head person with a single vision for the trilogy.

>>153539013
But Empire Strikes Back isn't at the top.

>>153538997
>Didn't plan out their trilogy
JJ it is said that he had a vague idea where to go. He went as far as to make an outline but Rian threw that out and made his own thing. It explains a lot really.

>>153538949
>In both cases, the Disney-era movies are nowhere to be seen.
Rogue One is right there.

The crazy thing is, Kathleen Kennedy by all accounts was responsible for assuring Tony Gilroy could make Andor, one of the best pieces of Star Wars media under Disney along with Rogue One, and yet also oversaw something as horrible as the ST. It's a very heavily divisive record. I don't know whether she just screwed up with the ST and is capable of better or if Andor and Rogue One were just accidentally good.

>>153539443
Wasn't Mandalorian accidentally good because she didn't pay attention to it, then she saw success and got interested in seasons 2+?
Or was that just some bullshit I read online somewhere?

>>153539443
Andor and Rogue One being good were not accidental. The whole "WW2 spy thriller but in space" concept is truer to the original Star Wars pitch than any "evil space wizard battle sexless space monks for the soul of American democracy in space" movie we've gotten for the past 40 years. The Jedi and Sith are cancers upon the franchise and I refuse to be silent about this fact any longer.

>>153539309
Ok, so if JJ had this vague idea why did Disney pick a different director for the next film in the trilogy? Shouldn't they have stuck with him? The lack of planning isn't merely the absence of a roadmap or a full trilogy of scripts, it's the fact that they wouldn't stay committed to a single thing. I still don't understand why they brought Rian Johnson onboard at all.

>>153539443
I imagine her and the rest of her crew had a closer and tighter grip on the Disney trilogy while they didn't really bother to do anything with the spin offs and let them almost do their thing. At least until some of them started to be noticed, like Mandalorian. Then they'd stick their fingers in there and fuck things. Andor was probably allowed to be good because none of them thought it would matter and left it alone.

>>153539007
Listening to the fans is exactly what led to TFA and the sequels' retarded worldbuilding

>>153538949
Can they identify why the Phantom Menace is so high?

>>153539493
Mando was good because it was Wolf & Cub in space, and every season after Luke showed up forgot that and focused on shit like The Book of Bobos or Jack Black Planet, both complete narrative & tonal shifts to stuff like Werner Herzog.

>>153539498
>The Jedi and Sith are cancers upon the franchise

>Starts off small and relatively harmless
>Grows and spreads
>Eventually weakens the setting and shit up everything it touches

Pretty apt.

>>153539443
For better or worse, Kennedy was very director friendly. She approved projects based on the strenght of the creator's outputs, not what was necessarily better for the brand. She let Johnson do what he wanted, just like she did with Gilroy.

>>153538949
>How did Disney damage Star Wars so badly?
Because is a company for girls and women children, such company as expected cannot appeal to men and boys to save their lives, even if they purchase one of the most popular male. oriented IPs ever.
Doesn’t help that men and especially gen z men have gotten sick of emasculated male characters and feminist propaganda

>>153539443
>Andor, one of the best pieces of Star Wars media under Disney
Lol

>>153538949
Two key problems that then spiral out into the rest:

Problem 1 is that they moved too fast. They were in such a rush to make infinite money off of the star wars money printer that they locked themselves in a timeline of multiple years of already in production releases before the first movie was even out yet, leaving them zero ability to course correct if anything went wrong. People blame Rian Johnson for not following up on anything that JJ Abrams "set up" in The First Awakens, and maybe some of that blame is deserved, but the actual fact of the matter is that Abrams was still changing the script and shooting new scenes and dropping new mystery boxes into the final iterations of The Force Awakens AFTER THE LAST JEDI HAD ALREADY BEGUN SHOOTING. It wasn't physically possible for TLJ to be a logical sequel to TFA, because the release schedule was too cramped and no one was talking to each other or coordinating anything between these two films except in the loosest possible fashion.

Problem 2 is that the sequel trilogies... simply do not have anything to make themselves stand out. The Prequel movies were flawed, but they are absolutely LOADED with cool new ships and droids and aliens and characters that have gone on to become iconic staples and fan favorites. They are dripping with cool things that people want toys of, or memorable scenes and characters. The sequel trilogy meanwhile has nothing new to say. About anything. Its all just nostalgic, empty rehashes of past events and past ideas with a new coat of paint, and often not even two coats. The x-wings look the same as the old X-wings. The star destroyers look the same as the old star destroyers. Starkiller Base is just the death star again with some details fudged. The entire third movie is predicated on "fuck it, I'm out of ideas, bring a bunch of old shit back and pretend it makes sense". There are no new droid designs, or colorful aliens... all of the sequel aliens are potato people.

>>153538949
>How did Disney damage Star Wars so badly?
They hired incompetent men to direct the movies.

Because the sequel trilogy should have happened in a phase 3 maybe 2.
Focusing on a thrawn trilogy for the first phase(that could unite old and new viewers and introduce new jedis, Rey could be one of them).
After some years use the Yuuzhan Vong war to destroy and in the aftermatch Luke is exile and the jedi orde divided so can made the force awaken storyline with Rey trying to search Luke and the Order with Solo child learning the wrong ways with the war

>>153538949
They did it on purpose because they hated that an outsider made the most popular movies of all time.

Star Wars used to be big events. With a nice break between movies.

Disney was too greedy, flooded the market, and now no one cares. Thanks a lot, assholes.

>>153539443
If anything, that is the exception that proves the rule.

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>>153539848
There is one new alien that stands out. He is the pinnacle of the alien design present in the sequel trilogy. Many remember him and want more merchandise of him than Disney ever produced. I speak, of course, of Klaud.

>>153540224
I liked the salt crystal foxes too

>>153540242

They were pretty cool.

>>153538949
This is /tv/, not /co/

One important reason is this.
You can't translate the major extended universe of a franchise into multiple high budget projects that consume major amounts of a person's time.

The extended universe stuff works in the context of geek culture with people who like exploring the expanded lore of said universe and would be willing to pick up cheaper products like books and comics.

You can't translate that to bigger budget products which need larger amounts of box office and therefore a more general audience. The GA aren't chasing the lore. They don't give a shit about what happened between sagas unless you make them give a shit. They're only gonna watch any individual product based on word of mouth and its own merits.

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Are they gonna make live-action Clone Wars?

>>153539530
If they were listening to the fans, they would have just adapted the EU straight. It is hilarious how much corporate bootlickers try to desperately salvage the reputations of companies when people have memories of the actual events.

>>153540477
No. Filoni is in charge now because he's the only one that has any kind of vision for what Star Wars looks like, and he has no interest in decanonizing his multi-series interconnected fanfiction by replacing it. The Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons are required star wars viewing now, in fact even more required to understand the events of ongoing star wars lore than the original trilogy is.

>>153540555
>If they were listening to the fans, they would have just adapted the EU straight
So they could flop harder?

>>153540600
Excellent attempt at a dodge, but the question was not "would it be successful or unsuccessful" but "did they Listen to the Fans or not". However, you would have a promising future career in corporate PR, were you not here doing it for free.

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Will Filoni have the balls to do this?

>>153540642
Quite sensitive, but not surprising considering that it came from a SW fan.

The problem is that you act like EU have a big fanbase for them to bother to listen to them. The other problem is that they did LISTEN to the fans (OT fans) and it resulted in giving us the ST that basically killed the franchise.

>>153540701
Holy fucking cope, lmao. This isn't 2020 anymore. Never happening. Mandalorian series and the upcoming movie are about setting up the sequels.

>>153540742
Okay, so now you have revised your position. Great. So, when you say "listen to the fans," we should see things in the ST that mirror OT fan dislike of the PT. So, for example, since one of the biggest complaints was an overreliance on big CGI setpieces instead of practical effects, we should see the ST be hampered by OT-fan demands for practical effects. Which didn't happen. Some other things that didn't happen, for example, were a reunion of the OT trio and a Luke who did...anything.

When you say "the sequels flopped because they listened to the fans," do you mean anything other than "a garbage The Mary Sue article written in 2017 told me I was smarter than all the chuds for liking The Last Jedi," or where exactly can we follow your psychological fixation down to what this is really about. Given it has no basis in reality, I'm sure you have a story that is more interesting than anything in the ST.

It would've been so eas to make a bunch of standalone Star Wars universe movies (like Rogue One) to build up to a new trilogy. Just rip off classic stories with a sci-fi twist for a while like Treasure Island could easily be done with people going out to find a lost Jedi Temple and revive the arts with a plucky kid, researchers, and treacherous mercenaries.

>>153538949
>How did Disney damage Star Wars so badly?
But their feminist rape drama is top of the list

>>153540422
Sounds like The Quest for More Thrawn is in danger

>>153540701
This is too complicated. What will the sequels be called? Timeline 1 Episode 7 as opposed to Timeline 2 Episode 7? Average moviegoers will be confused.

Remember how years after the Rise of Skywalker crashed and burned they held a big event to say "We are making a new Rei Skywalker movie!" and then never mentioned it again? What was up with that?

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I think that a problem with both people who create and consume Star Wars media is in treating Star Wars as one big story, rather than being a world to tell stories *in*. It's a setting, not an opus.

>>153541706
Many current franchises commit this retarded mistake. ATLA is a fucking insane case of it.

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>>153541758
Exactly. It's how you damage a simple setting and end up with stupid convoluted bullshit like this.

>>153538949
Zoomer here
I still never watched one star wars or marvel movie.

>>153541706

but how are we going to make people watch The Brag Florpsen Chronicles if we don’t put Remp Gholiti in the Mandalorian and Grogu and Flembo?

>>153541979
That's weird

>>153538997
>It's not a great idea to listen to the hardcore fans for everything,
You mean the people that wanted the story to involve all the books/comics/games post return of the fucking jedi. All that lore since the 80's thrown in the trash for no reason, claiming none of it is canon or real.

They didnt listen to fans at all they wanted to create slop for everyone. When everyone fucking watched the movies because they were cool and looked great.

>>153541758
It can work, but you need to have them stories be loosely coupled.
My go-to example for this would be Macross. Long running space opera franchise, but they basically only make one new show a decade, and the new shows in the franchise take place years or even decades after the last one, and usually in a different part of the galaxy. Despite this, everything thats happened in the old shows remains canon, and gets referenced, and you occasionally have characters that cross over between them as cameos or as minor characters. Despite this the universe feels cohesive and always progressing because you can see the culture and technology evolve over time. The protagonist of Macross 7 only makes sense in a world where the Space War One in the first show ended the exact way that ti did, he would be just an insane person in any other setting. The AI-drone superboss enemy in Macross Plus gets field deployed in squads in Macross Frontier, but under the tight control of a human 'shepherd' specifically because the prototype in Plus got hacked and went rogue. And so on.

Its not all one big story, but there is a sense of throughline to it that makes it feel like one anyway without getting too bogged down in nitty gritty timeline filling, its much more interested in telling new stories that push the franchise further than going back and nostagically fellating its lore with prequels and interquels.

>>153540555
How the fuck does that criticism equate to corporate boot licking? I fucking hate Disney's desicion to retreat ANH's plot since it ruined the entire setting, and was such a cowardly desicion that it led to the trilogy's poor quality.

>>153541303
It not using the episodes, that alienate zoomer to not Watch them

>>153540844
The sequels were literally designed to appeal to the people who complained about the PT. They ditch all the worldbuilding Made by those films, overrely in OT iconography and motifs, and eschew all mention of galactic politics since they were seemed "boring" in the prequels.
Just because you're a fan who didn't ask for that doesn't mean those voices were at the time extremely loud in the rest of the fandom.

>>153539531
Same reason as a New Hope, its the first of the series so anyone looking to rewatch all 3 will start there

>>153539309
JJ did not have a vague idea of where to go and told Rian Johnson to do whatever when Rian asked him about all the shit he was teasing in TFA. Snoke has had like 3 different backstories in the span of how many years because JJ gave them nothing.

>>153539493
No, it was good for basically the same reason Andor was. Bob Iger considered Mando his baby while they were making Season 1. Once he left, Mando started running into the same issues every other Disney Plus TV show has because there wasn't a bigwig insulating the show from the rest of disney.

>>153539443
>woman raised by the highest profile clique of both pop autheur cinema directors pampers to the whims of director

no surprise here. basically no quality control or oversight. force awakens being panned as "a new hope with a hat" likely had her panic and change directors only to commit the same mistake not once but thrice.

>>153539221
>Empire Strikes Back isn't at the top
This is a list of most WATCHED not most popular.
You can casually watch the 1st movie in a trilogy then call it a day, hence why ANH and PM outrank it. While ESB one generally wouldn't watch on its own without watching ANH first.
With some notable exceptions like ROTS outranking AOTC.

TLDR: Blame the filthy casuals.

>>153540056
It's kind of funny how Disney themselves admitted that flooding the market with a single IP was detrimental around 2019, only to immidiately do it again with Marvel starting the 2020's.

>>153538949
>Phantom Menace above Reddit strikes back
BASED

>>153540586
>The Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons are required star wars viewing now, in fact even more required to understand the events of ongoing star wars lore than the original trilogy is.
This is nightmarish. I remember when they were so proud of making Rex be the bearded old man from ROTJ as if that made any sense. Just fuck off you fat furry piece of shit. I'm surprised he hasn't edited the OT making the characters ask where is Ahsoka.

>>153538949
Sad!

>>153543956
>Reddit Strikes Back
So liking objectively good movies is Reddit now?

>>153539524
No, it's the opposite. KK's policy was to basically just let everyone do what they wanted. It's why the quality is so over the place, Lucasfilm was essentially just throwing random darts and seeing what stuck on the board.

>>153544069
If they ever make a series about luke rebuilding the order post-rotj you can bet your britches that ahsoka will be the main character.

>>153544069
He hasn't had the opportunity, that's all.

But thats actually something to consider... at some point they are going to do a remake of the original trilogy. Its going to happen, the older the OT gets the less likely it is that newer generations will have seen it and the nostalgia-mining strategy looses power. At some point they have to refresh it so that modern audiences will have seen it, and also because they are running out of other Star Wars they can make since the sequels are radioactive.

When that happens, if Filoni is still in charge there is a *genuine risk* that he will introduce elements from Clone Wars canon into the retelling, like having Kenobi mention how he had to protect young Luke from people that came looking for him like Darth Maul, or them finding a broken battle Droid that acts as a comic relief character for a bit, or so on.
I could genuinely see Ahsoka showing up in a Return of the Jedi remake to be Luke's third mentor, Kenobi in 1 then Yoda in 2 and then Ahsoka in 3 with her telling Luke about who Anakin used to be before he became Vader.

>>153546068
The actual setup was each film has its own director, and each script was written while the prior film was in production, allowing for the next director to know what is happening and to collaborate with the prior director. JJ Abrams didn't write any answers to his mystery boxes because it was Rian Johnson's job to answer them as he saw fit. And for all the complaints about him Johnson answered every single one of Abram's setups. The problem was never that they had no plan, the problem was that they didn't have margin for error for production issues. The real reason for the shitshow is that Colin Trevorrow never submitted a usable script for the third film. Executive attention was on that problem and since production on TLJ was going fine no one stopped to ask, "are we risking fan backlash with this?" So they're stuck with no script for the third film, audiences pissed off about TLJ, the death of a major actress, and a very real risk of having to push back the release date of the third film for a second time. They throw a truck full of money Abrams' way, tell him to shit out a script that goes back on everything people disliked about TLJ, and we get RoS.

>>153542147
It was never canon. George fucking Lucas flatout stated as such. I'm always tickled by the people bitching about the problems of the ST when every single one was shared by the EU. Self-inserts, waifus, creator pets, nonstop memberberries, unnecessary interconnectedness, shitty writing. It's a bunch of complaints that the rotting house in front of them is the wrong color.

>>153546625
>It was never canon. George fucking Lucas flatout stated as such. I'm always tickled by the people bitching about the problems of the ST when every single one was shared by the EU. Self-inserts, waifus, creator pets, nonstop memberberries, unnecessary interconnectedness, shitty writing. It's a bunch of complaints that the rotting house in front of them is the wrong color
Only fags who don't read think this. Old EU is objectively better

rlm destroyed media critiquing as a whole.

I have no idea why Andor is popular

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>>153538997
>The Last Jedi takes place immediately after Force Awakens and nothing carries over
It's impressive how bad they didn't plan anything out

>>153539531
because it is good. get filtered you dumb fag

Star wars was never good.

>>153546737
Its not.
But they are doing mando + rogue one with a budget and no one is watching. So they are telling everyine its popular. >>153543568
Bob iger had fuck all to do with mando.

>>153542147
I'm not racist, but...
I'm not gay, but...
I'm not islamophobic, but...

Nothing someone says before the word 'but' really counts.

>>153546707
>If Disney wanted to make more Star Wars why didn't they adapt Heir to the Shadow of the Shattered Empire, where Bingo Wungo - who appeared for 3 frames in the cantina scene in ANH and was Luke's other, other, other best friend who was a top secret Rebel spy and son of Crix Madine (the general from Yavin who helped destroy the Darksaber [no, the other Darksaber]) - and Blood Company (a top secret squad of Rebel special forces made up of Jedi Temple youngling survivors who trained themselves in the anti-Force to avoid detection from the Emperor) discover the location of the secret Sith planet Evyl IX and must race against time before the Shadow Hand (a group of Palpatine worshiping Imperial remnants) unleash their fleet of Destructor-class Star Destroyers, each carrying a Death Star superlaser capable of destroying planets, and conquer the galaxy as a new Empire led by a clone of Palpatine named Sheeev

>>153546947
You could've started an eu book or read an issue of Totj in the time it took you to write that gay shit

>>153546832
nobody watches star wars for politics, anyone who claims they did is a fucking liar.

>>153538949
do

you understand that if there's more than 10 Star Wars properties then they can't all be in the top 10

jfc anon how are you this innumerate? and look what's top of the list, fucking Andor, Rogue One is in there, Underworld is in there, TCW is in there and half of that is Disney

what did you think your point was? did

did you think that this list could have had like lord of the rings on it? do you not understand that it's just a snapshot of what people watched one day? it literally means nothing

like do you think if nobody watches TFA enough to bump it from #11 to #10 the Disney Corporation is going to spontaneously combust? they're raking in money from Star Wars, it literally attracts people to the parks

the fuck is the matter with you

>>153547380
Good little piggie lmao

>>153547380
can

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retard

>>153547570
Fuck you no one is reading walls of text on 4chan.

>>153547585
A wall of text would be more readable than whatever the fuck that post was.

>>153547585
Retarded phoneposter.

>>153547380
do

you have the time

to listen to me whine

about nothing and everything all at once?

>>153539007
Good, they're retarded and deserve it

>>153547585
I will you dumb bastard

>>153539530
>the force awakens is exactly what hardcore fans wanted
What kind of schizo revisionism is this?

>>153541472
They announce the Rey movie every six months but nothing ever happen

>>153547992
Mike Stoklasa said those exact words after watching The Force Awakens. Shills aside, everybody loved TFA when it was released, except me

>>153538949
They fucked up for a lot of reasons.

>the loss of the holocron continuity database which meant the timeline was a mess (Lucas still owns it)
>trying to make Lucasfilm's production pipeline like Marvel Studios' despite not having the same momentum that allowed the MCU to function
>being unable to access the EU due to having to pay royalties to the still living authors (but it's not like they're not trying to skimp them)
>having Star Wars compete with Marvel and Disney products at the same time
>pushing out Lucasfilm staff in order to keep up with ESG/DEI mandates courtesy of Blackrock in the wake of George Floyd and the Obama administration which meant an awful lot of women who weren't qualified to work at Lucasfilm, didn't understand the IP, or actively resented it at worst
>fixating too much on older fans and nostalgia baiting over building a reputation with young children, particularly boys
>trying to market Star Wars to young girls and single women (the "modern audience") despite not really including anything young girls like to see (romance, adventure, domestic slice of life, drama, horror, etc) and instead taking away what boys want to see (pretty girls and violence)
>failing to tap into the cultural zeitgeist (paralleling the current social geo-political landscape while drawing connections to past events in history)
>a lack of confidence in new characters
>cheaping out on the toys
>fucking over the video games because of the contract with EA
>pushing out TFA in less than two years (potentially even one, if rumors are to be believed) without a finished script when filming began
>trying to nab China as a customer base despite China not having the same long-term relationship with SW unlike the rest of the world
>starting the sequels on a foundation that fundamentally undermines the ending of the ST (fuck you, all of your heroes are old pathetic failures)

>>153548083
He was getting bad robot and disney money. Plus he made his name bitching abput the prequels and saying jj abrams should direct.

>>153538949
To this day it makes zero sense to me that set their sequel trilogy so close to the original trilogy. They should have set it at least a hundred years in the future. Indian Jones and the Crystal Skull should have shown them that we dont want to see "hero we love, but old." Hell, the entire fucking Star Trek franchise should have told them that.

>>153538949
They focused on making extremely sucessful reboots that sold better than the originals even after adjusting for inflation and that upset chuds.

>>153548879
The reason why they didn't was because they were still reliant on the bare bones ideas of George Lucas' proposals for the ST, even if most of it went unused or was later incorporated for Disney EU projects in various ways. They also wanted OT fan bux, obviously.

The easy answer would have been to have the OT cast as old people guiding the cast as older teenagers/young adults in the ST, and then gradually having the new cast grow up while the OT cast is retired or phased out as the new trilogy develops and jumps over time, not unlike how the PT and OT had gaps in between movies and each other.

instead we got

>kill Han Solo before he can really do anything
>kill off Luke after a YEAR in-universe between the first and second movie when you've established he ALSO couldn't do anything
>don't really have Leia do anything and then whoops her actress dies too

>>153546762
I don't really understand why TLJ had to take place immediately after TFA when part of SW's bread and butter is timeskips. Characters get to age and develop and get new costumes while you also justify new settings and toy designs.

Genuinely, what was the logic in doing so? Not only does it means you can't tell stories in-between TFA and TLJ, but it basically forces you to see them as one single movie when half of the appeal is how SW is a pulpy episodic series of movies not unlike the film serials Lucas grew up in. Even if you're ideally meant to watch in chronological order, you can jump in late and get caught up with the opening scrawl.

The lack of a time skip is just one of the many ways that makes TLJ break the established logic. TFA fucked things up quietly while TLJ straight up went "let's NOT be like a normal Star Wars movie" (the humor, the further lack of documentary-style composition, the lack of a timejump, etc).

>>153548879
Dude, if it took place hundred of years in the future and there weren't any of the previous characters around it would be a spin-off and not a sequel

>>153549050
It's because Mr 'Subvert Expectations' wanted to have that scene where Luke tosses aside the lightsaber Rey was giving him. That's basically it.

>>153548881
Rent-free lmao

>>153542462
>>153543861
This is probably also why TFA isn't on that list. At this pont everyone knows its a rehash of ANH and that the ST overall is gonna turn out to be shit, so why waste time watching the cheap knockoff when you can just watch the Original?

>>153547766
That's you nigga

>>153549395
Growing Up is discovering that the subvert expectation type writers only does that because are bad writers.
He could just show that in a flashback in the middle of the film while the first part is Rey alone fighting the Empire while you don't know what happened with Luke.

>>153538949
>How did Disney damage Star Wars so badly?
They took the franchise that is mostly filled with dudes and nerds and shat on both groups even though the whole point buying of Star Wars (& Marvel) was to have something they own appeal to guys.

>>153547992
Yeah anon, everyone loved the prequels at the time and no one spent 10 years bitching over how they wanted AW to be like the OT all over again.

>>153550922
>take bad thing
>go so far in the opposite direction that it becomes even worse
>blame fans for your own fuckup
Shill or retard?

>>153542147
Lucas himself was going to ignore the EU for his version of the sequels.

>>153550957
Why do you assume that explaining why a product ended up being as it was means justifying the ones who made it? Disney was retarded and cowardly for the desicions they made with TFA, and unadvertidly dug their own grave with the franchise by doing it.
And you know what, decades of retarded manchildren acting like they know SW better than Lucas himself can lead one to confidently say that, yes, SW fans are really, really dumb and entitled. A company being incompetent and destroying the brand, and said brand's fanbase being also retarded aren't mutually exclusive.

>>153538961
No, that's A New Hope which is the absolute perfect pulp sci-fi flick.

>>153538949
Huh, Maul isn't anywhere on that list? I mean I haven't even bothered to watch it pirated but I'd expect it to be on the list simply due to the novelty of it.

>>153551411
The list shows the results of last year's May the 4th