Why do you think that comics escaped the whole woke era unscathed? You never saw like a black Batman or a lesbian black Wonder Woman.
We did though
>>153543517There is a black wonder woman, her name is Nubia, she's existed for ages. Dunno if she was ever into women though.
>>153543517dogshit post from every angle, dumbass
>crying about wokeslop
>>153543517 Wonder Woman comes from an island with like only women I'm pretty sure lesbian it's a pretty common action where she is from.
>>153543591>it's less ridiculous because uh... time has passed!
>>153543517>comics escaped the whole woke era unscathed
>>153543517Nubia has been around since the fucking Golden Age. >>153543528I mean, she's an amazon, so it's not out of line to presume.
>>153543528Nubia dates the Amazon forger Io
I don't care about woke that much anymore only because it's clear how much of it was a smokescreen while they built up surveillance infrastructure like digital IDs and flock cameras for their panopticon. We legitimately have bigger fish to fry than some faggot wearing women's underwear.
>>153543591
>>153543617>Argue with m-me! I'm really bored!
>>153543606Here's the page from the Perez run you're thinking of. If anything, DC should be making Diana's books way gayer. Cowards!
>>153543664le sheeple
>>153543517Are you being serious right now? Did you not see All New, All Different Marvel? Harper Row? Whatever the sixteen retconned children of Lucious Fox were?
>>153543617My guy
>>153543517Did you just wake up from a coma or something?
Wonder Woman is canonically bisexual, as are her mother and her twin brother (does it run in the family?).
>>153543679>>153543606>>153543517 Do you think the Amazons have strap-ons on the Amazon Island?
>>153543606>>153543679Wonder Woman is the original woke slop. Her author wrote her because he was an up his own butt liberal college professor who was throwing a hissy for there wasn't a "feminist" comic book character so he set out to write one, then being a male feminist couldn't help but inject his own masturbatory fantasies into it and made filled it with lesbian bondage and femdom themes.
>>153543617It kind of is impressive how quickly it went from "TAKING OVER EVERYTHING" to being banished to fringes is amazing.
>>153543517If anything comics were patient zero for woke shit. Movies and TV's followed shortly, and then finally tcg and AAA gaming
I want five people who hate woke to define it here. In a court of law so something can be legally classified as woke or not woke.
>>153543517You have to be joking
>>153543712Diana is canonically an absolute stacy who has fucked at least half of Themyscira.
>>153543712Donna Troy is adopted but she’s straight.
>>153543517>You never saw like a black Batman
>>153543783Any work that is primarily focused on Left wing activism.
>>153543783Forced overly liberal themes and tones that seek to redistribute racial and gender equity.>They made Batman an Asian Woman. Batman went woke.
>>153543783Woke is when nigger faggot character that I don't like
>>153543827Actually he’s Blasian. Black father, Japanese mother
>>153543783The Abolition of Man.
>>153543639Io is fucking hot. I always wished she got with Diana because they were pretty close.
>>153543735it wasn't selling and a republican won the popular vote>>153543971yea
>>153543735California and comic industry can try and insulate themselves from audience only for so long. Eventually they have to accept they need actual readers to buy their products. 0% interest era allowed them to pretend to be successful by taking cheap debt, not anymore. An audience of 200 trannies in San Fransisco is not as big as male audience of the US.
>>153544251One of those trannies buys the comic to storytime here for the other 199 to read for free.
"Wokeshit" actually isn't that common in Hollywood, it just attracts the most attention when in reality 99% of what Hollywood is doing is just normal ass media made by career producers
>>153543732Nope
>>153543517>>153543591>>153544366>All that damage control and gaslighting to cover up the past 10+ years of this shitNo, we won't forget nor pretend woke-slop is magically gone from the cultural zeitgeist.
>>153544366lollmao
>>153544386 When you extended definition of woke to me to anything that's considered normal that I want to go back to the good old days of only white man can be heroes then yes Hollywood has become more work because Normal has become more woke in your eyes the older and disjointed from the current year you are.
>>153544251>old twitter engagement bait screenshotAnd what the fuck is that language? Is this another fucking third world content farm operation in action? 669 UUDELLEENTWIITAUSTA. 105 TWIITIN LAINAUKSET. Fucking clown ass shit.
>>153543827instead of his parents being shot in an alley they just go out to the store to buy milk and then never return.
>>153544457>Replacing white characters with brown characters constantly>Putting in characters where they don't belong like fucking masses of brown characters in medieval and historical settings>Adding gay and brown characters just because the group or cast is too white>DEI checkmarks for all media to represent every race and sexuality in every piece of mediaYeah, and Hollywood created far better content before the "woke" era when token representation wasn't enforced by politically buck broken cucks.
>>153543783A piece of media espousing anti-Christian values, often with a particular emphasis on anti-White, anti-Male, anti-Heterosexuality, and/or anti-Americam talking points or subject matter
>>153544572NTA, that's all fair enough but I wager that most media that you define as woke doesn't even fit your own criteria. Having a homosexual black person on screen doesn't automatically make it racist against white or anti-male or anti-heterosexual.
>>153543517>You never saw like a black BatmanDC Comics literally tried to permanently replace Bruce Wayne as Batman with Tim Fox.Along with every other JL member with woke versions.All during Future State.
>>153544554don't forget soapboxing and moral grandstanding.
>>153544609Okay, but why are so many inserted into every nook and cranny of media. >make it racist against white or anti-male or anti-heterosexual.The ideology behind it that is pushing it is racist. Veiled behind "positive discrimination". Take this for example: which racial group has actual institutionalized systematic barriers to entry, progression and success in their way on the books and as a policy that excludes them and pulls them back? White straight men, along with asian straight men. Actual institutionalized systematic barriers to their jobs and careers through "positive discrimination" which is just flat out discrimination with a twist to it.
>>153544653>"we need to be better">proceeds to do the exact same shit they accuse others of doingtwitter was a fucking mistake.
>>153544554 The problem when they would place what was supposed to be not white people with white people including what's supposed to clearly be on First Nations person being played by a white guy instead for wisely advertise movie also people moved around in the ancient world a lot more than particular people would have you believe including black and brown people being in places you want to fingers totally white back then and pure just for being totally White one didn't care about your skin tone half as much as people like the Confederacy or or the KKK told you those were completely white dominated societies and Spears So gay people existed in history they had to keep themselves closeted but that doesn't mean they didn't exist just because the local law said we can kill you for it look up Frederick the Great. Also DEI is not half as powerful as the people who complain about it want you to believe and is not responsible for any time a minority person gets hired especially when they want to tell you it's about making unqualified minority people getting hired sometimes it's forces companies to actually hire when they don't want to hire any minority regardless of skill level that doesn't mean the program itself is a problem so much as it is those businesses.
>>153544572>anti-ChristianGood. And writers have been doing this for decades anyways. The Sky-Jew-Kaiju is pretty low hanging fruit at this point>anti-whiteIt's just called "racism" and I agree, being racist against whites isn't okay, being racist against anyone isn't okay>anti-Male, anti-HeterosexualityIf anything this shit sucks because it doesn't lend itself to good writing. It doesn't work because it's rooted in bitter spite because women and LGBBQ writers want to flip the tables on what was originally just harmless banter>anti-AmericanI actually agree with this. I'm sick of all the 5th Columnists in this country that seek to divide us further, whether it's Chuds simping for Russia or Tankies simping for China. All of them need to leave and they need to be called out more
>>153544572imagine being a christcuck in current year.
>>153544742DEI only really exists to use minorities as a shield for shitty writting and to justify hiring people on the cheap, they don't actually give a shit about social justice it's just there to make them look good for investors.
>>153544824Cope
>>153544814>Good. And writers have been doing this for decades anyways. The Sky-Jew-Kaiju is pretty low hanging fruit at this pointNope, atheist cuck>I actually agree with this. I'm sick of all the 5th Columnists in this country that seek to divide us further, whether it's Chuds simping for Russia or Tankies simping for China. All of them need to leave and they need to be called out moreIt’s not them
Comics have always had so much liberal/left wing type bias to them, sometimes it was so on the nose in a way that upset people back then. My issue with the woke era is how this is specific in its cringe. And that specific cringe always appears in a book every other issue, there will be some reference to current thing done in a way that makes the past look like genius writing. It feels like you're being bombarded by specific online bubble meme language. I forgot what I was reading recently online, one of the X-titles maybe and it just took me out the book.
>>153544879>It’s not themIt's them and more, and they all need to be called out. Stop defending Chuds and Tankies>Nope, atheist cuckSnakes can't talk my guy
>>153544742All I read is incoherent damage control and historical justifications that read like thinly veiled revenge justifications for current institutionalized systematic barriers to success and opportunity.Regardless, it's still a racist and sexist policy on the books that actually affects white and asian men that is open and quantifiable. An actual. Real. Policy. That. Is. On. The. Books. Of. Institutionalized. Systematic. Barriers. To. Opportunities.You can't deny that, and you can't deny positions, work, jobs, careers, scholarships and a long list of other opportunities have been denied to white and asian men, and offered to every other group first. Since that's been the policy for the past 20+ years. Anyone not asian, white and male gets shoved to the back of the line because... ugh... historical racism... despite it being historical... in the past... in that the accused people's of today don't have those privileges today... because it was in the past, like... before they were born type shit.
>>153544885No
>>153544903*Typo>Anyone not asian, white and male gets shoved to the back of the line because..Get's shoved to the front of the line because...
>>153544902Retard, you lost
>>153544910Yes, it is cringe.
>>153544927Tankies lostChuds lostAnd snakes still can't talk
>>153544383>ignorant casual copinglmao cuck
>>153544903 And I bet most black men in the criminal justice system will tell you try being black in the criminal justice system and see how things are so much less fair for the white straight guys and Asians compared to other minorities in your country. Actually when it's about what's supposed to be your basic civil rights.
>>153544939Retarded fag.
>>153544959>t. thinks snakes can talk
>>153544954You do
>>153544976>no ucope and rope
>>153544973Samefagging retard
>>153543517Horrible art>>153543679Bad art
>>153544955So instead of trying to fix the criminal justice system, just enact a racist, sexist initiative that is an actual on the books open policy of open racism and sexism. Nice move. So it's just revenge policy at this point, got it, already intuited that.Also, don't black men commit a majority of said crime, despite all the initiatives, money, and opportunities to push them forward for like the past 40+ years, and they still commit crimes and under-preform in education nationally?
>>153545002You will
>>153545006I still don't see any talking snakes kiddo
>>153545010>Bad artNo
>>153543517Because Didio is a chud except when he got 5g brain toward the end. Plus he wasn't dealing with the disney suits breathing down his neck as Marvel was.
>>153544624I still firmly believe that Dick should've taken up the cowl.
>>153544885Was it the X-book with Kitty and Emma? And the characters stated their pronouns? Yeah that was cringe. Idk know why modern writers don’t have a gauge on cringiness
>>153543803kinda based tbqhwy
>>153545054Yes. Look at it.
We never left it.
>>153543591Not until it stops and the damage is undone.
>>153545116Agreed. Given her real world origins, it makes sense for Diana to be a harem protagonist, and DC are filthy cowards for not leaning into it.
>>153545147>hey you know that allegory for sexual assault/rape?>yeah?>we should turn that into an allegory for racism!
>>153545147Wait what’s wrong with this page? Vampire looking people are hated because of Dracula taking over the world. That’s basic cause and effect.
>>153543783Raceswapping a preexisting character. Blatant promotion of far left beliefs.
Wild that Hippolyta and Phillipus are one of the few couples that are allowed to just be happy these days. I'm not at all complaining, obviously, I just find it notable.
>>153545204The page literally points out that things will get better over time but for now, things are too raw. What’s wrong with you?
>>153545230What counts as a raceswap? A different character taking up a mantle? Was BatDicka raceswap since he’s Romani? Was John Stewart a race swap?
>>153545258dumb motherfuckers like you would empathize with a zombie outbreak.
>>153545140No
>>153545278Retard
>>153545114Sorry, the cultural zeitgeist has shifted to accepting these groups, and most middle management, and HR, who's responsible for hiring pushes these groups forward have been doing so. So no, asain, white and males are being pushed back at a huge disadvantage regardless.And again, so it's just revenge politics and policies that punish asian, white men for things they never did.As for the criminal justice system, it's fucked all around, and you're correct about the uber wealthy never being jailed, that's been an issue since time-immortalized. But it's just goal-post moving at this point about the fact there are institutionalized systematic barriers to opportunities for asian, and white men across the board. To be unwilling sacrificial totems to a movement and initiative they get to have no say in, but have to bare the executioners chopping block on their futures for, indefinitely for the foreseeable future.So in this zero-sum game of resources, get bent.Asian and white men have actual grievances to bare and be justified for with actual openly racist and sexist policies of institutionalized systematic barriers to opportunities.Instead of bullshit accusations of implied discrimination, there's actual open discrimination. And the bullshit crying of why every organization should have a direct workforce representational parody parallel to the societies demographics is bullshit.As though every organization is going to have equal parts women, men, minorities and lgtbq in it. Despite the myriad of other factors that go into career and job choices, life paths and placements. Like women are overwhelmingly over-represented in healthcare and education, and increasing going to college in rates far higher than men now. (Despite said colleges being openly hostile to men). But that's not an issue, the REAL issue is too many white male CEOs apparentlySo I guess you have to unilaterally punish all asian and white men because an extreme few outliers exist at the top
>>153545284If the zombies were still sapient, then yes, I would feel bad for them, and I would support attempts to cure them of their cursed existence. Also, vampires can just hit up a blood bank. And there is in fact synthetic blood. It's functionally a non-issue.
>>153545284Why would Ben Grimm of all people shit on vampires who aren’t harming anyone retard??Zombie? You mean an undead? Kinda like Deadman? swamp thing? Spectre?
>>153543591you got the template for this friend?
>>153545325Ahh widdle baby doesn’t have an argument
>>153545337thank you for proving my point.
>>153543735That's kinda what happens when you decide to market to a fraction of a fraction of an audience and then the entire industry gets hit with a recession.We're about to see how resilient all that woke stuff truly was now that we're heading towards a GFC-tier recession caused by a certain someone.All the virtue signalling in the world is meaningless if people don't have jobs and can't put food on the table.
>>153545245Isn’t Hippolyta currently living on Mt Olympus separate from Phillipus ?
>>153545192Would Steve be the only guy in her harem?
DCSHG had a diverse cast and browned up Wonder Woman, and that show was generally enjoyed by /co/ and was successful on Netflix before they pulled it. The show still gets threads on occasion.Diversity in the big 2 comics weren't the issue, it was shit art and writing. They failed to bring moviegoers into the comic books by giving them diarrhea on paper.
>>153545386>spoileryou mean the previous administration who didn't want to bail out a certain airline with a weirdly appropriate name now that it's dead?
>>153545426Cartoons have even less ground to stand on, that industry is also dead, so much so that is pinning its entire future on indie shit while 30+ year veterans are fleeing California to go back to their hometown where they can run a podcast out of their parent's house.
>>153545426>browned up Wonder Woman,To be fair, not remotely a stretch. She hails from a Mediterranean archipelago. Frankly, it's weird that drawing her with a more olive complexion is only really a recent thing. >>153545421Nope. There's also Trevor Barnes and Tom Tresser(Nemesis).
>>153545371That’s you
>>153545230But that was totally fine when it was done to non-whites to be replaced by a white actor because white actors were more famous yes? Also you tend to scream about it anytime it's done to quite frankly any individual who could be interpreted as any way of having white skin tone before when they were not fucking human to begin with.
>>153545421>>153545487Don’t forget about Sigurd now. Siggy for short.
>>153545538>But that was totally fine when it was done to non-whites to be replaced by a white actor because white actors were more famous yes?Bro, the vast majority of people who complain about race swaps either weren't even alive or were children the last time that kinda shit happened on a regular basis.We've been in this current era for basically the last 15 years, literally an entire generation of people has been born in that timeframe.
>>153543735Yeah, it's almost like the whole thing was manufactured outrage and never actually worth getting so emotional about.
>>153543638>Nubia has been around since the fucking Golden Age.Wasn't she from the silver age?
Wokeness will never die because there is no solid definition of what "wokeness" even is. If we can't define wokeness, then anything can be woke, thus it'll never die. Personally I think wokeness really just boils down to pointless virtue signalling and moral grandstanding with the goal of making people ashamed of their race or country or culture under the guise of critical thinking, usually through a series of baseless remarks where a Mary Sue temporarily becomes possessed by the writer so they can act as a mouthpiece of 30 seconds or several comic panels. To me wokeness has nothing to do with the existence of minorities, but retards will of course fight me on this so it's pointless.
Can we go back to talking about the sexuality of Amazon's in DC and possibly other settings like one piece ?
>>153545230>Ohhhh noooo my favorite capefag is a different color now, I'd better dedicate my life to crying about this.The only people who get mad about this are posers who don't read comics. Anyone who knows superhero stuff knows that all superhero replacements are temporary gimmicks and the original guy always comes back after a few months.
>>153545662Wokeness is simply slang and an umbrella term for DEI and intersectionality movement, initiatives policy that is applied everywhere.
>>153545681Cope
Alternate universe, yes, but here's a reminder that Mera is also part of Diana's harem.
>>153545609I think it's more just that no one cares anymore.The comic industry moved past outrage and into apathy some time around 2022, there's no one left to get mad because no one cares. No one even makes ragebait posts on twatter or ragebait videos on Youtube about comics anymore.It's part of why even comicfags here constantly bitch about how dead the comic side of the board is.The only comics that anyone under the age of 35 still cares about are web (read: Twatter/instashite) comics.
>>153545763>Alternate universe, yes, but here's a reminder that Mera is also part of Diana's harem. What is the age limit of old and young for her harem?
>>153545735>Wokeness is another word for [random thing that scares me because I'm too emotional]This is the only universal definition of wokeness that makes sense. It's a meaningless buzzword that people project on.
I was told I'd be "defeating the woke mind virus" and all I got to do was pay $125 for an indiegogo comic book that took 6 years to come out
>>153545783Wonder Woman is in part a projection of the Marston's ideals. Safe, sane, and consensual is a mandatory component of loving submission.
>>153545846Okay so what is the age of consent or majority on Island Amazon in DC then? I do know in real life law that can differ from country to country or in America even state to state.
>>153545890In most iterations, amazons are all adults due to being either immortal or reincarnated clay people. Either way, safe to assume that the version where kids exist still strictly enforce 18+ because WW was still created by Americans.
>>153545807The majority of Wokeness is boiled down to mainly intersectionality theory. Unless we're talking about it's original word usage, or it's current word usage that it's evolved into but still has some relevance to it's original meaning. Much like how Nazi lost all of it's cultural impact and meaning, other than to reference someone you don't like who leans slightly right, and/or has criticism against or of the progressive movement.
>>153546102This.
>>153545310Why don't you want to look at it? Do you the know name behind it and assume you're supposed to think it's good?
>>153545278>Was BatDicka raceswap since he’s Romani?Probably nobody thought so at the time, but once retards started insisting that they were morally obligated to brownwash him, yes, it's a race swap done by people who had nothing to do with creating the character and thus unacceptable.
>>153543591>You're supposed to stop paying attention to the problem if it persistsAnon you should probably get that growth checked out.
>>153545673Did they?
>>153543803>sisters...I'm horny>all three of them dive into the water
>>153545487Frankly, it's weird that you think suddenly changing the complexion of characters who've existed for decades is an OK thing to do.>b-b-but I think it makes senseYou didn't create them, it's not your decision to make.
>>153545673>but I am in the mood for scissoring with the queen>well what good mother doesn't give her daughter what she wants provided she's earned it...
>>153545493Excepto he did post an argument
>>153545759He's right though
>>153547046It was never a problem to begin with
>>153543517Ignore bad comics and read good comics and move on, you're an adult who cares woke or unwoke just read the books you want.
>>153547375Nope
>>153543517I want this.
>>153547355No, faggot
>>153545627Actually Nubia’s first appearance in 1973 marks Wonder Woman entering the Bronze Age.
>>153543664Says the person crying that he can’t consume things because sometimes there’s black and gay people in the product and that hurts his feelings too much and hinders their ability to consume things
>>153543783Woke has been around for a DECADE now, imagine needing a definition by now.Prioritization of women and minorities over Whites and especially White Men, Women and minorities aren't allowed to have actual negative qualities, but White men do. Women & minorities aren't allowed to fail or be greivously harmed. There are no negative consequences to the actions of women or minorities. Women & minorites show how "good" or "heroic" or "capable" by overcoming or outperforming Whites Go read that Captain America run by Mark Waid where he made Cap a Hydra agent for a perfect example.
>>153544366Wow. Actual delusion. This is why most of us don't engage with your kind any more. It's like trying to converse with someone who smears their own feces on the wall.
I'm surprised physical comics still exist at all
>>153544457>the good old days of only white man can be heroes>only white man>onlyWhen was this again? The 1930's? You're being intentionally disingenuous.
>>153544814>>153544824Shalom!
>>153545662>Wokeness will never die because there is no solid definition of what "wokeness" even is.There's been a definition for a fucking decade now. Asking the crayon eaters of /co/ to spell it out for you then screeching one doesn't exist is typical liberal disingenuousness. Your types have been sticking your fingers in your ears and acting like you can't hear what you don't like for so many years now. This conduct is literally why Trump won you know.
>>153545609>the whole thing was manufactured outrageSo, the general public didn't flock to Riri Williams because of "manufactured outrage". You're a typical lefty retard. You actively ignore any motive you disagree with
>>153545595>or were children the last time that kinda shit happened on a regular basis.They tried to cast Daimio in Hellboy with Ed Skrein just seven years ago and handwave it by clamouring “eh, he’s half-asian in the movie now”. Aloha in 2015 tried to pass Emma Stone as half-asian. Bullet Train basically race swapped almost every single character from Japanese to other ethnicity and made Michael Shannon be the big bad guy yakuza leader. Casting might have started becoming better at representation but that doesn’t change the fact studio heads to this day always want to cast a white guy/woman to a part no matter the ethnicity in the source material and keep saying that if the lead isn’t white it can’t make money and always pivot to blaming women and minorities if a movie flops while never doing the same when white men projects like Northman or Mission:Impossible flops. Executives are even known to say “aren’t we done with this diversity thing?” to this day.
>>153545662Woke doesn’t mean anything except “I don’t like it because reasons” and nobody except right wingers use it anymore unless they’re deliberately just ridiculing anti-woke sentiment. When right wingers people are unironically calling banks woke you know the entire word has become a fucking joke.
Another aspect of Woke is "amplify minority/women's voices". They're given priority at the expense of White & male characters. A huge example is literally killing off Wolverine for so many years and replacing him with a woman. Captain America became a black guy, Spider Man Miles Morales became a big focus, Thor became a woman, I mean, how many fucking examples do you need, how can you demand someone hold your hand and explain "woke" to you>>153548875See? typical lefty ignoring what they don't like in the actual examples provided and just dismissing everything that doesn't align with your own worldview. You're a lost cause and a completely dishonest liar.
>>153548436you
>>153544742Jesus Christ, Anon! Learn how to use some God damned punctuation!
Just a guess but I'd wager the person who can't identify "woke" and therefore denies it exists is also incapable of properly identifying the actual definition of a woman. They're also cherry-picking which posts to attack and ignoring the ones they can't refute. Typical.
>>153543528Nubia was a thing for a LONG time. She wasn't this shitty...THING. though.
>>153548875>The majority of Wokeness is boiled down to mainly intersectionality theory.>Unless we're talking about it's original word usage, or it's current word usage that it's evolved into but still has some relevance to it's original meaning.>Much like how Nazi lost all of it's cultural impact and meaning, other than to reference someone you don't like who leans slightly right, and/or has criticism against or of the progressive movement.
>>153549086The left can't define nazi but the right can define wokism.
>>153549090A "Nazi" is anytime a White person sets Boundaries.
>>153548944Explain to me how banks are woke besides the fact that OMG they might have minorities working there and not as tellers but also as executives.
>>153549086I love it how certain people keep saying this “Nazi doesn’t mean anything anymore!” shit and then they always start crying when someone is called a Nazi
>>153549218irony
>>153549211Simple.Major banks support and fund DEI (intersectional theory) initiatives.By forcing the financial ecosystem and companies to adhere to DEI and ESG (Environmental Social Governance) initiatives. And if said company complies with initiating DEI and ESG in their companies, the banks give lower interest rates and higher loan caps.
>>153549218>Omfg, we can't riot, we're literally living in Nazi Germany, FASCISTS!>Proceeds to attempt to assassinate the President 3+ times, and assassinates political opponents>We're the REAL victims here, we're living in a Nazi Regime, Dump Trumpf!
>>153549282So banks are “woke” because they grant loans and you don’t like that there might sometimes be a mechanism to incentivise not being racist involved. Like I said, the word is a joke at this point
>>153543591Who keeps updating this image>>153545609I think there was a criticism to be made over companies senselessly trying to make "identity" a consumable marketable product and stumbiling over themselves again and again. Obviously that doesnt mean i agree with the rest of the manchildren retards that are having a schizoid meltdown itt but i think its far to criticize companies like disney and marvel that were doing this
>>153549440
>>153549542Criticising pink washing is entirely valid, especially when they prove it was just empty virtue signalling. Having constant meltdowns because a black actor was hired to play a fictional character or they did a revamp in a comic or did an ethnic legacy character meanwhile isn’t valid. And you can talk about these things in a way where it’s clear what type of stance you’re taking
>>153549602>Having constant meltdowns because a black actor was hired to play a fictional character or they did a revamp in a comic or did an ethnic legacy character meanwhile isn’t validlollmao
>>153549602
>>153549398if a bullet really hit his ear part of it would still be missing to this day.
>>153549623Wow anon you’re so brave and original
>>153549691stunning and brave you mean :)
>>153549691Such cultural contributions
>>153549713ginger is an anagramit's a favorite hollywood joke
>>153543606Fags think literally every single comic character is gay. Go listen to their podcast, they need validation so much they don't even believe heterosexuality exist. Everyone is just either a closet fag or culturally repressed to them. They'll tell you of couse ww is gay, trevor is gay, trevor dating wonder woman is proof he's gay.
>>153549713Congratulations anon, you just discovered that red haired characters were used in supporting roles throughout the decades due to colouring limitations and because they’re so ancillary by nature they’re the easiest way to cast blindly because most people don’t give a shit, especially when only weirdos would be throwing racist temper tantrums about a fictional character’s hair colour being “erased”.
>>153543517Comics were already dying.
>>153543994>Obama half-white>he's black actually>Kamala half-indian(dot)>she's black actually>Black Batman>he's actually Blapanese.
>>153549574enjoy the gaslighting while it still last, were at the point where they're past the threshold of them worrying about being expelled so its about to turn to gloating.
>>153549844>Congratulations anon, you just discovered that red haired characters were used in supporting roles throughout the decades due to colouring limitationsDoesnt justify changing them especially when its always turning them black>because most people don’t give a shitAppealing to triviality just goes to show you know you are wrong and have to say it doesn't matter to cope. If no one gave a shit this wouldn't be happening. >especially when only weirdosAd hominem, not wanting retarded culture war propaganda doesn't make someone a weirdo. >be throwing racist temper tantrums Says the histrionic marxist who gets incensed by the idea that people just want good media and not some retarded soapbox.
>>153543591I'm mocking you, retard
>>153543994>>153544527None of that is true
>>153543517>comics escaped the whole woke era unscathed?Marvel and DC readership is the lowest it's been in decades. The only people still buying books are Gen Xers who collect out habit and a paltry share of millennialsValiant is dead (again). Image is fully under Kirkman's control and also not putting out any good books right now. Vertigo and Dark Horse are so so. I wonder how Zenoscope is doing
>>153543717No, they only use Yonic sex toys like washing machines as Hera intended
>>153543732>Masturbatory fantasiesNot so fantastic I'm afraid, he had a wife and a permanent mistress who was a 2nd wife in everything but law
>>153549895Unless they’re specifically Irish and their ethnicity isn’t important aspect of the character (which it 99% of the time isn’t) they can be any ethnicity.>Why are they always black thenBecause Hollywood isn’t actually “woke” in the way you think it is and casting especially has taken forever to get past the mindset that everyone always has to be white unless the script specifically needs the character to be a different ethnicity. They have only starting to get fairly decent with casting with black people where as latinos and Asians are only starting to get their foot behind the door instead of just being cast as background characters and doctors/prostitutes. It’s a work in progress unfortunately. >If no one gave a shit this wouldn't be happening.Historical systemic discrimination has happened, bias in casting is still very recent phenomenon and blind casting is finally starting to address and fix that. In comics lack of diversity has been addressed and implemented specifically because of fan demand.>culture war propagandaLike you crying everyone issues and always white because “uhh uhhh uhhhh they just have to be white! I’m totally crying this much over trivial visual changes with white people too and not a hypocrite! Like ummmm I swear I was spending just as much time complaining Morpheus wasn’t chalk white, you just didn’t notice it from all the crying about black actor playing Death!”
>>153550141>Unless they’re specifically Irish and their ethnicity isn’t important aspect of the character If it’s not important then why change it? Why alter something that doesn’t matter unless there is a reason to do so? You keep trying to say it doesn’t matter yet here you are trying to justify the change. That’s not nothing and you know it. Not to mention redheads aren’t just Irish. >Because Hollywood isn’t actually “woke” in the way you think it is Openly lying isn’t going to help your position it just shows that you are incapable of defending your nonsense.>taken forever to get past the mindset that everyone always has to be whiteSo you’re not actually arguing the point here either you’re just going on a side tangent to say how it needs to happen but not why. >Historical systemic discrimination has happenedNot a justification make original characters and watch them fail. >Like you crying everyone issues and always white because “uhh uhhh uhhhh they just have to be white!They have to be white because that is what the character is, they are not born but created by a person who made them white. And thus far you have given no reason as to why that should change aside from saying “because” and crying about racism. Oh and saying that it doesn’t matter which contradicts what you said about discrimination since if none of this matters then why the fuck should discrimination matter?
>>153550220Changes happen all the time to update and make the character relevant to modern times. If that triggers you then boy you must be seething 24/7 considering how every IP that hasn’t died and fallen to obscurity has had to go through various forms of change, especially when adapted to other formats. Just how many posts a day do you make about Daniel Craig not dyeing his hair for Bond movies, I wonder.
>>153550894Nice cope
>>153548710Name 5 charcters, movies and games with "woke">Pro tip>You can't
How did the right lose the culture war so badly?I thought they won the election? Why does everyone hate them?
>>153551276There has been no purges or blacklist. The reason you don’t see many prolific conservatives in the arts now is because conservatives have spent the past 40+ years constantly demonising, defunding and ridiculing the arts as a profession and anyone wanting to pursue a career in them because that’s not how you make the big bucks so you’re a sucker and gay if you do it.
>>153543517Why is its paws like that?
>>153544955Maybe black men should try doing less crime
>>153548850>Bullet Train basically race swapped almost every single character from JapaneseLmao, that's like saying the live action Fullmetal Alchemist movie raceswapped the characters because the Japanese production made by Japanese companies for Japan didn't get a bunch of white actors.
>>153551369It's not the conservatives' fault that drawing rigid brown dykes in an ugly style doesn't pay for you to live comfortably in one of the most expensive cities in your country.
>>153551825FMA takes place in a made up world. Bullet Train takes place in real Japan but they changed ethnicities for nearly every central character and out of the four asian actors with any name recognition that were cast in the movie just two get more than glorified cameos. And then Michael Shannon plays a Russian guy who has taken over a yakuza group and serves as the mysterious big bad guy. I think the book was terrible and the movie was only good for its action pieces but the way they went about adapting it was just strange and shows how studios are stupid when they insist the story has to take place in Japan but also afraid that too many asian actors would make it flop.Especially weird was how they took the one actual kid character in the story who was the stereotypical anime tier sadistic piece of shit pretending to be a innocent model child that was just messing around with people and gender swapped him to a girl and also made her into another assassin in the train but still kept the Prince moniker.
>>153549211>Explain to me how banks are wokeTypical fucking child. I never said banks were "woke"> OMG they might have minorities working there and not as tellers but also as executives.Yeah, no shit Sherlock, it's been that way LONG before the "woke" era. YOU are the one jumping to childish and absurd conclusions.Woke is not the PRESENCE of women and minorities, and you've demonstrated repeatedly you're either unwilling or incapable of learning the distinction.Besides, >>153549282 said it pretty well. >>153549440>to incentivise not being racistprioritizing minorities over Whites is literally racist. Prioritizing any group over another is the definition of racism. You're clearly retarded. and there's no point in arguing with you. It's clear you've been a piece of shit about this over the past decade, you've clearly got a massive inferiority complex about the subject. We get it, you have an incredibly low IQ and cannot learn what you're being taught here.
>>153545326Two thingsThe bamboo ceiling existed for asians LONG before DEI shitSecondly, DEI overwhelmingly benefitted white women. Along with affirmative action and yes welfare.The truth is non white people are rarely hired unless they are queer or thoroughly educated. Even then they are less then a percent. Oh, and by the way. DEI is being used as justification for flooding work places with hb1s and latino slave labor. So no americans are benefitting. Both google and microsoft are almost entirely indian now. With israel buying every media platform and indians taking over every front facing tech conglomerate and blackrock/soros protected and backed queers ruling all media..wellWe are all 100% fucked. We
>>153549823>Fags think literally every single comic character is gay.VERY true. It all boils down to a MASSIVE sense of deep insecurity and a desperate need for validation, a "see, every one feels the same way I do" approach to coping with the world.
>>153550915Refute my definition first before making further obnoxious and childish demands>Pro tip>You can't>because you're a low IQ troll
>>153545807It's not meaningless at all, because it was used as a self identifier, "are you awake?", ie aware of systemic oppression. It became pejorative, because the ideological impetus for the idea of systemic oppression and broadly, intersectionality, arent universally accepted. So, the invocation to "Get woke", meaning become aware of the plight of your fellow man, was repurposed by critics as "get woke, go broke" and variations. It's an easy leap from there to assignations of "wokeness" to progressive ideology generally, and even intellectually dishonest reframings such as yours.Also, it hasn't left entirely. The overton windows has shifted completely. The profitability of centering intersectional discourse in the assembly of art product is currently on the wane, but the song is in the air, and true believers haven't necessarily changed their tune.
>>153552213>I never said banks were "woke"Nobody claimed you did. But right wingers have said that. That was the point.
>>153552474>REFUTE SOMEONE ELSE'S CLAIM!!!!This is why we all know you're low IQ>muh right wingerrrrrssss!!I couldn't imagine being this fucking broken. You're so insecure you desperately need your boogeymen to rail against. Holy shit dude.Besides, don't think we don't see you cherry-picking which posts to respond to.
Did comics escape that unscathed?Both comics and cartoons went all-in on that stuff and they're both basically dead industries walking at this point.Not that I mind, I never had much attachment to either one as an adult since I'm a freaky weirdo and thus was far more served by anime and manga.
>>153548710>Prioritization of women and minorities over Whites and especially White MenOh you mean levelling the playing field because white men historically have kept propping up other white men for jobs unless they were forced to accept women and minorities to jobs? How bias shows up in every job application study where just having non-white sounding name guarantees less interviews than a white sounding one despite the resumes being exactly the same in terms of qualifications?
>>153543735It's not really banished though, it's just in temporary hibernation because it creates bad optics which hurt their bottom line.
>>153552743We need to prioritize white men again to level the playing field after wokeness.
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>>153550064>Marvel and DC readership is the lowest it's been in decades.This is an objective lie, the Absolute line as sold over 12 million units and Marvel is doing far better than they ever did in the 2000s
>>153552822Translation: mediocrity of white men has to be maintained for sake of my feefees
>>153552743White men are competent and get shit doneAlphabet "people" and femoids don't
>>153549079>th-th-that doesn't count, because I say so!ok kiddo
White incel chud tears in this thread are delicious
>>153548436Facts
>>153548436Based and bluepilled
>>153553110No
>>153553073Are these tears worth anything though? They won't pay for your groceries or get you a job in an industry that is basically dead.
>>153553073Stfu, tranny>>153553076Nope
>>153543803>Diana is canonically an absolute stacy who has fucked at least half of Themyscira.She IS her father's child after all. Wouldn't it be Zeus, if she didn't.
People didn't stop buying comics because of feminism and progressivism, they stopped because youtube exists and they have to watch youtube now instead of reading comic books
>>153553039Mediocrity from whites is better than what we've gotten in the woke era though. You sound like a chick
>>153553154How come youtube didn't kill video games or manga or books?
>>153553046Just look at this administration: nothing but white competence. Oh sorry, I meant white incompetence.
>>153553209Both have similar issues with games flopping and manga sales are shrinking in Japan.
>>153550978The culture war is over.Both sides lost, now they're both being replaced with social media ragebait.
>>153553391It's just another administration doing no worse or better than the past 26 years of the usa. Only difference is libtards being able to screech about it more and louder because of social media
>>153553418The games flopping are the ones made by the same retards who fucked up comics and cartoons.
They don't even talk about comic books anymore, 90% of it is drama calling out other antisjw comic youtubers
>>153543735It's not in the fringes at all, Blackrock just pulled all the money and support out of it, so corpos are no longer backing wokeness. The damage is already done, though, and woke culture has infested most of the internet and most of our teachers at this point. Hence all the faggots trying to minimize the issue in this very thread.
>>153544955I can't even tell what you're trying to say with this incomprehensible gibberish. Start by learning English before you come here and spout shit.
>>153553498Like >>153545764 said, no one cares.It's not worth ragebaiting about comics anymore because said ragebaits get no engagement, because no one cares.
It used to be all social media sites and all entertainment but it's quarantined to bluesky and the D&D community now. We're saved!
>>153550978Cope lmao, the alt light won the culture warTrannies are getting crushed and no one caresEveryone loves it when cops beat the shit out of people in cameraIndian hate is in vogue
>>153543517>You never saw like a black Batman or a lesbian black Wonder Woman.Didn't they turn Thor into a woman then literally have "her" get fucked by a nignog?
>>153544495>old3 years ago, tranny.
>>153553435holy cope batman!
>>153553494Bungee does comics?
>>153553556And Reddit and half of 4chan and so on.
>>153548436Ah yes double speak that’s the ticket.
>>153552743>retard CONFIRMEDI mean, we're talking WOKE in COMIC BOOKS and you're whatabout-ing jobs. You literally cannot stay on subject on any of this, you fucking disingenuous little cunt. We're discussing storytelling and you're screaming about perceived slights in the job market. Fucking imbecile.You literally quoted a post discussing "woke" in media terms, discrimination is a different matter you fucking window licking retard.
>>153543717Sure, but they all look like pussies. Like their planes, according to morrison.
>>153545204Except it was always an allegory for undead bloodsucker monsters...
It will never end.
>>153543528a black amazonian is fine but why make her look like a fat trans woman? shouldnt she be like athletic. i feel like someone like simon biles would have been a better model for a design
>>153554496That doesn't feel like "woke" much, though. Except for the general disregard of the cop's well being.
>>153554575>White man assaults brown woman.>Gets off "light" >She-Hulk seeks vengeance. Sure Jan.
>>153548875>Ugh what does "woke" even MEAN it doesn't even MEAN anything anymore>Meanwhile whenever people who support wokeshit get a perceived win they suddenly know exactly how to identify it so they can gloat about it
>>153554496>Roxane Gay
>>153551369>There has been no purges or blacklist.>SighYes, there has been, there were previous threads and other discussions about the industry specifically purging and blacklisting conservatives creators and artists. It was a whole big thing because there was heavy evidence of HR departments creating black-book blacklists for any conservative creator. Hence why too there was a major fallout of conservative creators going on Kickstarter after being blacklisted/kicked-out of the industry to create their own comics. Much to the chagrin and pissing and whining of leftists.
>>153553556Don't let up.
>>153554237Comics are dominated with white heterosexual men. They didn’t go anywhere. So wtf are you bitching about DEI?
>>153554913>Hence why too there was a major fallout of conservative creators going on KickstarterThis didn’t happen
>>153553127admitting that you chuds are crying over people of different skin colour than pasty white is enough
>>153553127I thought the economy was the best it’s ever been
>>153543654>only because it's clear how much of it was a smokescreenwell at least one retard woke up
>>153543717a significant portion of the lesbian population is not into penetrative sex at all. Strap-ons are like scissoring - it does occur but not nearly as much as porn would have you believe.
>>153553565The Question, Aqualad, Thor. White male characters whose mantles were passed on.Was the only time that kind of thing happened pre-woke-era that time they gave Captain Marvel cancer in 1982 to make way for Ms. Marvel?
>>153553070I don't know what YOU'RE smoking, but Nubia was never some lame American black zoomer, hanging out with a bunch of queer dudes. She ALWAYS was confident in her abilities. She just didn't know she was related to Diana. THIS sad sack needs everybody stroking her ego ALL the time. It's like she's actually a dark-skinned white girl. I NEVER met a black girl with so little confidence and self esteem. The REAL nubia was basically a warlord, and ruled a whole damn KINGDOM. This chick gets destroyed by an anonymous text message. She would have been culled by the things that shaped the REAL Nubia. This is just some lame writer's self-insert fanfic, using an established character for legitimacy.
>>153553507They pulled back very slightly because trump got elected twice. The policy of white replacement is going going ahead full speed.
>>153543517black spiderman
>>153556040Nice cope
I don't even read comics or participate in this gay culture war shit and even I know this is a flat out lie. What are you talking about?
>>153558550Your only example is a comic that never came out
>>153556366Yet they all have rainbow-hued, yet otherwise HUGHLY accurate oversized silicone replicas of penises. Right down to veins and wrinkles in the nutsac. Explain THAT. I've moved enough furniture for hardcore lesbians/dykes to know that this is a common item in their households. A vibrator is actually the cheaper, yet more rare item in their drawer-o-fun. So, what are they doing with them? Putting them on the bed and hurling verbal abuse at them as a way of venting against "the patriarchy"? Placing them on the floor and stomping them as a cathartic release?
They always bring up the same handful of comics because there aren't that many>america chavez>snowflake and safespace>I am not starfire>asian woman hawkeye>lesbian wheelchair spiderman>feminist agenda shirt mockingbird>drag queen X-men>lesbian batwoman>Ironheart>gay iceman>gay superman kissing his pink hair boyfriend Meanwhile there are plenty of non woke comics coming out all the time
>>153559880CBR propagandist.
>>153559880There’s an Asian woman Hawkeye???Who is this sexy Asian waifu? And why have we never heard of her before?
>>153559880Anon, here is the thing, you're both right and wrong. YES they do bring up the same things over and over again. But also a load of comics have dumb woke stuff. Not always all encompassing. It'll be a comment here or a comment there. You can't just beat the bad guy you have to make a sly allusion to [current times]. And sometimes that comment develops into something big. Take X-Men. Someone at a X-retreat had an idea for X-Men but the Metgala during the Krakoa era. And since then we have gotten these galas each fucking year as a result. Just to appease someone. I was reading some Jed Mackay X-Men, the current run, and it had shit like that. I would have to go back through it to post the examples and I cba right now.So yeah, they do complain about the same few things, the MASSIVE big cringe things. But the average superhero comic has a lot of this little stuff.
>people falling for such lazy baitsad
>>153560372I dont think anyone is falling for bait. It's just an excuse to bitch about comics and culture at large. You can close the thread if you dont like it.
>>153543517I think pic related is the zenith of wokeslop in comics
