If you think this AI shit is ugly, you are not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc look It's the same exact eyesore aesthetic
>>153550626The issue is not that it is ugly, the issue, is that it's stealing the work of artists without permission and without retribution.This is a stealing machine.
>>153550669>>The issue is not that it is ugly, the issue, is that it's stealing the work of artists without permission and without retribution.Even if it was made with fully legal and moral AI that paid for their training data it would still be ugly
>>153550626The problem with this is the character designs, not the overall visual style. Her eyes and nose are fucking huge. Trying to equate this with spiderverse is nonsense.
>>153550688The Spider-Verse whose Kingpin looks like this?
>>153550626Its ugly because the character is Jewish
>>153550688The Spider-Vese whose Peter Parker looks like this?
>>153550688The Spider-Verse whose Gwen Stacy looks like this?
>>153550708Funny how you didn't include Peter Parker in it, as it would show he does not look like this at all.
>>153550718Not the anon you are quoiting, but Gwenn looks really beautiful in those movies, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
>>153550749You gotta stop jerking it to degenerate porn anon
>>153550701That’s good, you fag>>153550754Cope,
>>153550626>you are not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc lookI don't./thread
>>153550669>t. dumbass sitting in the piracy central of the Internet
>>153550626Or maybe it's just ugly, unlike all that other stuff
>>153550701He looks awesome in all senses of the term
>If you think this AI shit is ugly, you are not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc lookYeah I am.
>>153550788Shittaste
>>153550788based. only pib was decent
>>153550822No, faggot
>>153550793That doesn't change the point.
>>153550754>good looking blonde is degenerateYour brain is fired.
>>153550861It points out the hypocricySomehow everyone was pro "stealing" intellectual property before genAI started making stridesNow motherfuckers are almost unironically doing the "you wouldn't download a car" bit
>>153550886>It points out the hypocricySeeing I am not trying to sell other's people work to make money without even crditing them, no, it doesn't.
>>153550626>not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc lookI don't, they all shit.
>>153550926Wrong.
>>153550905Idiots being scammed out of their money was a thing long before AI, so why is it suddenly AI that is the problem and not the people using it for scamming purposes
>>153550933>Idiots being scammed out of their money was a thing long before AIThat still doesn't change my point, moron.>suddenlyIt's not sudden at all, Artists have criticised the disrespect of their creative rights for as long as I can remember. The thing about AI is that it is doing this at a way bigger scale.
>>153550867She looks like an inbred pig and dresses like white trash
>>153550773>>153550805So the OP AI slop also looks good? Okay sloppers
>>153551023No, you retard
>>153551026You can't have it both ways
>>153551009Your brain is really fried.
>>153551030Yes.
>>153550965>That still doesn't change my point, moron.You didn't have a point in the first place, dumbass>Artists have criticised the disrespect of their creative rights for as long as I can rememberSo what you're saying is that they were always whining even when nothing was really threatening them? Sounds like an issue with artists and not with everything else
everything you see come out of AI, was made by someone else firstthere are artists able to do this out there that are fucking starving and working at walmart for this shit>>153550679and that will never happen because the sheer amount of data AI is always going to need more of to avoid algorithm collapse is in the hundreds of millions- numbers you can't ever possibly get without stealing
>>153551072>You didn't have a pointYes I did. Learn to read >>153550669>So what you're saying is that they were always whining Calling "whining" a legitimate complain doesn't magically invalidate it. And thanks for recognising that calling out the use of their IP without their approval wasn't actually sudden.
>>153550626>If you think this AI shit is ugly, you are not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc lookIn fact they all look like ass, don't tell me you really like those 3 framesper second fake 2D?
>>153550742Sort him anon
>>153551604There. and go consult an optometrist.
>>153551655>go consult an optometrist.Take your own advice immediately anon, your life could be in peril
>>153551659No, anon. It's just ridiculous how blatantly you are wrong.The nose alone make it impossible to put him on the left.Fuck, you even tried to shoe-horn Flint to attempt to make your point when he clearly doesn't fit with the rest of those designs.
>>153551553Cope
>>153551677Anon under all legal definitions you are blind and as such should not be trying to tell people online what you see and what things look like, seek medical help immediately before you hurt yourself
>>153550626There are people in this board who like nigger spiderman!?
>>153550626Not so much I think its "ugly" but I do think it means nothing. No one made any creative choices when they spun up the AI and ran a prompt through it, at least not the same kind of "creative choices" made when you build art step by step.
>>153550718This is a man. Everyone including leftists know this is a man. Yet, there's still retards pretending to not understand something that should've been obvious at a first glance. I find it particularly hilarious that the best the most successful black lead in nerd culture today could pull was a white boy and the two haven't even kissed yet after two movies lmao.
>>153550669>The issue is not that it is uglyTwo things can be true at once though, it being ugly is still a problem.
>>153550701He's meant to evoke Bill Sienkiewicz which looks pretty cool
>>153550669Moralfagging on 4chan makes nobody like you>>153551921Why do you think of gay sex unprompted? You must be projecting
>>153551687>Anon under all legal definitions you are blindNo, anon, under all legal definition, you have brain problems.
>>153552728I do'nt care about being liked. OP made a thread about the issues of AI and I provided a point you have failed to invalidate.
>>153552728Here. You can stop pretending to be retarded now, closeted freak.Next time, don't forget to use your eyes when watching a movie, okay? Just an advice.
>>153553733Not that anon, but you do understand that this is only meant to be symbolism cause "Spider-Gwen has to hide her true nature to her dad", right?It's not meant to be taken literally (mostly because Sony execs won't allow it to be literal).
>>153553807>mostly because Sony execs won't allow it to be literalSo she is intended to be trans.
>>153553838Intend is meaningless if you do not commit.
>>153553858Artistic intent overrides suits meddling.
>>153553873Except in this case, it didn't. So all they did was symbolism, cause Sony'll never allow her to be literally trans.
>>153553946My nigga why do you think Spider-Verse got greenlit? Why do you think they're greenlighting fucking Spider-Punk and Spider-Gwen spinoffs instead of any of the characters people actually like? Sony has fully bought into the woke spiel
>>153550626I'd rather watch the worst human made shit than the best AI slop. Sorry promp-fag. You'll always be a loser.
>>153553960I'm not a slopfag, which is why I don't like "the Spider-Verse aesthetic"
>>153553957>why do you think Spider-Verse got greenlit?Because it made shit-tons of bucks, not because it is woke. They still didn't allow her to be literally trans.
>>153553993Not only did Spider-Verse not make a lot of money, I'm asking you why do you think it was greenlit for production in the first place, before any money was made Peddling woke shit to kids through Spider-Man was always the goal
>>153550704thank you for being the only sane person >>153550807false binaries are always gay
>>153554037It's not a false binary, you're either a hypocrite or you aren't
>>153554006>I'm asking you why do you think it was greenlit for production in the first placeCause Sony still own the right to make Spider-Man movies and still hasn't given up on using it.They keep making them because it allow to erase from the mind of the audience their series of failure of live-action movies.
>>153554006>Peddling woke shit to kidsThere is nothing wrong being shown to kids in those movies in the first place, anon.
>>153550626OP posts worst best ever. Asked to leave the internet.
>>153550626Spiderverse and Puss get the aesthetic right.Mutant Mayhem and your AI crap doesn't.Go fuck yourself.
>>153554114Exactly, there's nothing wrong with making Spider-Gwen trans
>>153550669>B-B-BUT IT'S STEALING!!!!!!sorry what does this matter again?? who cares???? normalfags adore AI and love generating images of themselves, or they're just indifferent to it. nobody hates AI with the vitriol you do except for art school nepobabies who were gaslit into thinking they're special.
>>153554137No the point, though.
>>153554173>sorry what does this matter again?? who cares????People who are getting stolen.
>>153554188That was the point from the start, you must've lost the thread
>>153553807>if it's not shown or outright said, it's not trueI think you just don't understand the concept of visual storytelling or media literacy in general then, anon. Take for instance Inside Out 2: The executives at Disney made sure to edit out any scene / camera angle /color composition in the movie that could even just mildly imply a lesbian relationship between Riley and her idol for a reason: They KNOW that subtlety influences people more effectively than overtly laying out an idea front and center.Think then for a near 1-to-1 parallel, The Last of Us part 1: Bill is never explicitly stated to be gay yet that idea is firmly cemented to his character for the audience because the writing does an expert job at conveying that detail in more subtle and elaborate ways that make you engage with the notion more intelligently. You're left thinking of "gay" as more than just a label, but an actual person with their own reality and unique struggle (in the context of the game).Gwen's arc is written not too dissimilar to that premise in the way it's indirectly inferring to the audience the reality of transitioning and being trans without literally telling you that's what it's doing. Only an idiot thinks representation is restrained to just labels and self-affirmation.
>>153554229>That was the point from the startThe point I was addressing was the anon complaining about "woke", so you missed it.And I agree that there would be nothing wrong with making Gwen a trans character, but that it is wrong or not is not the point either. The point is if she literally was one and she isn't. It's all symbolism.
>>153554390What you want her to be and what the Sony creators in charge of the movies will make her to be are two different things completelyReread >>153554006 "show as many different types of people being Spider-Man as possible"
>>153554374>I think you just don't understand the concept of visual storytelling or media literacyI understand it. I also know when something is just symbolism or meant to be interpreted literally.Here, my media literacy actually tell me that how you are meant to understand it is that Gwenn is experiencing something trans people experience too, but it is not meant to be taken as her actually being trans.
>>153554403>What you want her to beIt has never been about what I want her to be, anon. Missing the point again.and nothing in your post contradict my point.
>>153550669Taking inspiration is stealing too, then.>>153550679Do artists who are influenced by Disney need to pay for Disney’s ‘data’ in their brains?>>153551480lol at this overwrought gay emotionalism. Your crude little gay scribbles about zapping transphobes with laser beams are not evident anywhere in this. You’re just looking for an excuse to cry entitlement.
>>153550626The problem is that you can never know when something looks funny if it's because of the AI or because of the "creator" making fuck ass decisions and thinking it actually looks good. In normal animation, you can trust everything you see is the result of a conscious decision, whether it's style or just someone making an honest mistake.Everyone here seems to assume this shit looks the way it does because it's AI and I was thinking of typing some rebuttal about how the creator has more control than you think but I just don't know.It's impossible to know how much was AI and how much was human input.
>>153554423There's no such thing as "symbolically trans". You're just making shit up to cope at this point. Next you're gonna say "traps aren't gay".
>>153554470>Taking inspiration is stealing tooNo, because taking inspiration is done by a human.>>153554505>There's no such thing as "symbolically trans".Disregarding that you are trying to twist what I actually said to make it sound wrong, everything can be symbolical, anon.
>>153554505>"traps aren't gay"They aren’t
>>153554531You literally said it you fucking retard. At >>153553807What now? re you going to say you only meant it "symbolically"? Lmao, you're a fucking joke.
>>153554531Legal precedent doesn’t care about such arbitrary distinctions. If corporations like Disney can get people to agree “AI needs to pay for all data used” it can get the courts to agree “We should get micropayments for all forms of usage of our IP”. They were responsible for draconian copyright laws in the first place and the digital age has plenty of “great” new ways to nickel and dime people.
>>153554544Oh thank god, it's all just rage bait. I don't have to respond anymore. Bye.
>>153554622>You literally said itI didn't LITERALLY said that Gwen is "symbolically trans", actually, whatever you think it means.My exact quote is>this is only meant to be symbolism cause "Spider-Gwen has to hide her true nature to her dad"You still aren't able to contradict my actual point.
>>153554714>>153554706
>>153554650>Legal precedent doesn’t care about such arbitrary distinctions.It's not arbitrary. Inspiration can only be done by something that is sentient.People who use AI are using the work of artists without their permission nor retribution.
>>153550626>you are not allowed to like how Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem etc lookI already don't like those, but you're making a false equivalence here either because you're illiterate or dishonest.This sample is better than average in terms of consistency and keeping framerate/lighting appropriate to style, now let's see how well it keeps backgrounds consistent. Slop looks great when you don't move outside its comfort zone and mediocre to uncanny when you do. t. slopper
>>153550815Underage
What AI haters are fighting for is “my art was used in a data set for this AI movie I should get $1 for that”Next with that legal precedent Disney can argue “our IP was used for a drawing of Tinkerbell cheesecake, we ask the courts for a reasonable $0.10 fee for use of IP for each upload in our lawsuit against deviantART, other website lawsuits pending”
>>153550933>If I pull away from the point being made I feel right!
>>153551009>She looks like an inbred pig and dresses like white trash
>>153554736I am not that anon>>153554544I am >>153553807You still failed to contradict my point.And to further it, it would be easy for the writers to indicate Gwen is literally trans, instead of just being a stand-in for the kind of experience trans go for. And they wouldn't need any kind of fancy color to do that:Just showing her taking some HRT pills or having a specific doctor appointment or a a prescription. Not even something in-your face. It could just be a "blink and you'll miss it" thing.That they didn't is indicative that she is not meant to be literally trans.
>>153554780They literally already could sue the shit out of the tinkerball "fan artist" if they cared, they don't have anything to argue for.Copyright law already sides with them in cases like that, it's what it was supposed to do.
>>153554774Nope, retard
>>153554827>They literally already could sue the shit out of the tinkerball "fan artist" if they caredBut they know it would be bad press.
>>153554827“Our IP data was used to compose new images, we should get a proportional return” is a new angle they can justify if enough people think the same about AI>>153554749Then how can AI be legally held accountable? Clearly you understand humans who use AI being responsible, but shed that understanding for humans who use Disney in their non-Disney products.
>>153554980>Then how can AI be legally held accountable?The one to be hold accountable are the people SELLING the AI's services as well as the people who make money out of piece of media they generated with AI.
>>153554495It looks ugly all the same
>>153553582You don't seem to get it, being an annoying hypocrite turns people against your cause. This smug "ain't gotta justify myself" attitude is why you lose.>>153553733No amount of spamming /pol/ false flags will stop you from being a schizophrenic brown loser.
>>153556667>being an annoying hypocriteYou failed to establish I was an hypocrite in the first place. You therefore are not making any point to begin with.
>>153550626But I hate every single thing you just listed?
These "pro" AI threads always pop up during dead burger hours and they're always weirdly aggressive and emotional. If it's not astroturfing by some third world contract workers then it's probably some autist seething hard from getting his brain cooked by being terminally online.
>>153552674no they both look like shit and it actually doesnt look like that past the shape of him
>>153551677no you are factually wrong the nose is exaggerated with a pinhead putting him ccloser to the left with a pointy small chin you are literally just mad and trying to steamroll opposing vviews just because youre assmad
>>153557575>the nose is exaggerated with a pinhead putting him ccloser to the leftHis nose still make him closer to the right, anon. And it's in no way near the shape of the nose on the left.You have brain problems.
>>153557529You are a retarded faggot, kys
>>153550626Kill yourself street shitter.
>>153557491I'm not pro-AI, I'm anti 3D slop
>>153558117You are a retard
>>153557811The cope ends now
>>153550626I will not consoom the slop.
>seething anti-ai is pro-trans Pottery
>>153558778No
>>153558215>had to exaggerate the nose of Spiderverse Peter in an attempt to make his pointPathetic.You had lost the plot the moment you tried to argue that Flint's nose is in any way similar to the rest of that group. That alone establish you suck at facial recognition.
>>153558867You've exposed yourself as a blind person, now is your chance to pull back and avoid exposing yourself as a schizophrenic as well
>>153558990>You've exposed yourself as a blind personAnon, you insist that Flint has a similar nose than the rest of that group. That alone has made you lose all credibility.
>>153559049So schizophrenic it is
>>153559078I am not the one trying to claim Flint's nose is the same as the rest, anon.
>>153550626duh. there's a reason why it's called aislop. it draws from real-world slop like Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem, and pretty much every single modern Pixar film
>>153550669Fpbp. Appearances are irrelevant. It's unpaid labour and theft.
>>153559495>real-world slop like Spider-Verse, Puss in Boots, Mutant Mayhem, Nope
>>153559609That's literally a fact though
