The Boys Show is safeedgy.In the comics there's a moment where Butcher MISGENDERS a couple of tranny prostitutes and calls them "mates", "blokes" and he/him and then Wee Hughie confronts him on that.Homelander also says the nword a lot and rapes the decapitated head of the vice prezzo.I'm not saying the show is bad because of the lack.of edge but it tries to play safeedge up on its own castrated terms to fill in for proper plot and then just... Doesn't go all in.An honest and tight-knit adaptation of the comic to an animated show or a live action project would.rock since the initial story is good(and isnt even about the supes at its core.)
>>153559660is safe edgy some new buzzword?
>>153559660It reminds me of Zoom bomb threads on /gif/, in which unsecured Zoom meetings get infiltrated by one or more users that spam loud, racist videos and extremely graphic gay porn, or both, exposing (usually) older people to that stuff. The racist stuff gets a little backlash, but when someone posts gore Zoom bombs, they say it's not okay, it's fucked up, blah blah blah. It always struck me as weird how they're okay with one, but not the other.
>>153559660Changing the Black Noir twist was lame.
>>153559660I read Gravity’s Rainbow and there’s a scene where a guy jumps headfirst into a toilet and all the black people in the area can detect that his asshole is exposed and defenseless so they break into the bathroom and try to rape him. That book’s considered a classic but people hate on Ennis for writing the same shit.
>>153559783Words and sex are indeed less objectional than violence.
>>153559678it takes like 10 years for normies to catch on to writing trends they are just now starting to notice sex and gore are portrayed as good extremes but sexism and racism are unjustifiably evil and it makes no real sense
>>153559660the comics suck. garth ennis is a hack. the show is shit now too but its still better than the comics.
>>153561141That's hysterical.>>153561562The show was always worse than the comic.
>>153562044>The show was always worse than the comic.the show was immediately better starting from episode 1 because hughie isn't a hideously ugly bald bri'ish manlet
>>153561141Ennis is no Pynchon, man.
>>153559783>It always struck me as weird how they're okay with one, but not the other.You might be retarded
>>153559678No, its a description for shows that want you to think their pushing the evelope when all their pushing is an open door. You stupidity is not evidence that something is fictive.
>>153561562>>153562044I'll settle the difference, they both suck.
>>153561148>>153564261No, it was the attitude they had. Like yeah, fuck these old people, ha ha, look at them squirm watching a man's anus prolapse. But then someone posts the one with the trans teen blowing his brains out (you don't see much because the blast takes him out of the frame pretty quickly), and they get serious. They were fine with terrorizing people, having fun at their expense, but then they drew a line, which is silly and a bit suspicious.
>>153559660>2026 BAFTAs (colorized)
>>153559660Man, the fucking show starts with a feminist speech. If you couldn't figure out then what you were going to get, there is no helping you. Same with the Witcher, while we're at it.
>>153565548Yeah.I actually think that it's a real case of media literacy failure when someone says the show is better than the comics BECAUSE THEYRE TOO EDGY AND GARTH ENNIS IS LE PROVLEMATIC.The comics at least have a plot that goes somewhere. Arc 1 builds up to arc 2 and arc 8 takes all of the previous ones into account.It has real themes on the critique of capitalism(i know it sounds gay to say), superhero media(especially with the ending. "Do something new, something that's not just the same shit in a new dress up" to which the corporate heads just 404 and go... B-but... How?)Examination of masculinity and war.Not to mention its a competently written love story.Also the show is so WOKE and PROGRESSIVE but they dont seem to give a single shit about the fact that they've erased Hughie's scottish upbringing which is pretty integral to the character.
>>153566719You need 200iq and a masters in transcendental media literacy to understand that what The Boys does differently compared to other Evil Superman stories is that the supes in The Boys are random retards with powers who go on to do retarded shit.You could easily update this to be in line with modern libtard zeitgeist but Dude Weedman can't even comprehend the Deep Meaning™ of something like this.
>>153567215You already failed the media literacy screening by claiming that The Boys is about evil superman.Homelander barely shows up in the comics until the end. Kek.
>>153566719The amount of cathasis i felt by Stillwell saying 'Bad product' is absurd. It's a simple thing but the comic somehow makes it seem like a big defeat.
>>153559660>safeedgyIt's called dull.
>>153559678From what I understand it's goreslop with a sociopath main character but he turns directly to the camera and says "I am not a racist/phobe."
>>153559660Any webm requests?
>>153559660The comic is ridiculously edgy and that just doesnt translate into a live action series. Having said that the show has gotten a bit more safe than the initial seasons
>>153564344>>153568558
>>153568631Only the gore is somewhat inconvenient to properly present in live action form. Things like Hughie being uncomfortable near queers or the degeneracy of G-wiz isnt hard to do.
>>153569014Homelander saying nigger also wouldnt be too hard in terms of CGI kek.Also Hughie is uncofmy around queers but respectful.Butcher straight up calls them fags and thinks its really funny/pathetic for a man to dress up like a woman and fucks up their pronouns when he's interrogating them in the whorehouse.Which Hughie later fights him on since his defining characteristic is that he's just a genuinely good guy
>>153559678Safe edgy is when you are edgy so long as it isn't truly offensive to those in your group. This is particularly clear in this adaption of the Boys as they were careful to cut out everything in the comics that would have offended liberal sensibilities, so we end up with a safe, but crass and overly gorey show that gets all its edge from shock value while carefully avoiding pissing off their tribe. Ie: safe edgy.
>>153559660"hue hue, Anon I cant put anything that realte that the Supers and Celebrities are the same hue hue, also my heros are cucks that do a lot of drugs hue hue I cant tell that the X-men are millionaries pdf like the people that pay me hue hue"
>>153572552This lol.>No mention of Epstein even though they will reference 1:1 every other drumpf controversy.Nooticing.
>>153559660>An honest and tight-knit adaptation of the comic to an animated show or a live action project wouldIt would absolutely, positively, never ever happen currently.The Boys comic is DEEPLY rooted in the 2000s, there's is no way to make it even make sense right now, the context is completely different, the public sentiment is completely different, just because you like that they're "Ennis Edgy"(something that kinda worked in the 2000s) doesn't mean that it would work, or even be any good, now.would a full adaptation be fun? Probably. The "Diabolical" animated show they did had some episodes that were adaptations of the comic, but it would never ever EVER be as popular as the show is currently, and it wouldn't fill the role the show fills, and that the comic filled back in the 2000sAnd that's the thing for me: The comic had a role, it worked because of the context, it made fun of things from that period in time, it worked BECAUSE of it. The show does the absolute same: It makes fun of current events, of the current context we live in, and it works specifically because of it, just like the comic did.Do I like the show? Not really, I watch the seasons once they finish and then forget the show exists, I dislike their take on Homelander, and I feel that wasting the Noir twist is boring, but it's undeniable that it ticks every box the comic did in regards to what it was parodying.In a post-MCU world that is constantly brushing with something as unsubtle as the modern right-wing government of the US, there is absolutely no way not to take it into account when writing a pastiche of supes. The comic came out in a post-9/11 world where cynicism was the norm even in capeshit, where the right-wing government of the US was way more subtle in their fascistic ideologies, and the comic uses it extremely wellAlso, I don't get the "Safe Edgy" criticisms, of course media is not as edgy as the 2000s, just like media before the 2000s also wasn't as edgy. Trends change
>>153574363Some notes that didn't fit in the post:>When I mention the "right-wing government of the USA" I am also including Obama and Biden, there's no left-wing government in the US>I like Ennis comics because of how stupidly edgy they are, but that often makes the writing worse. This happens in Crossed too>Herogasm not taking place in an island as a dig to the Epstein elite that runs the US is weak as fuck>The fact that there is absolutely ZERO parallels to Epstein is incredibly weak, too, and just goes to show that there is no fucking way ANYTHING coming out of Hollywood is a decent critique of the shitty third world country that is the USAAt the end of the day, any type of parody coming out of the US will be neutered by the gigantic cucks that lick kike ballsacks, traffic children, and run the countryLast but not least:>They should've killed Nu Noir and put the Homelander clone in its place in the last season, would make sense with how he was acting, but it wouldn't have the same impact it had on the comic: Show Homelander actually did all the terrible things they show, there's no "Oh shit he wasn't THAT bad" moment
>>153566719>they've erased Hughie's scottish upbringing which is pretty integral to the character.How is being a balding manlet from Glasgow or whatever integral to his character?
>>153574363Not the OP and I agree with your comments about it being a post 9/11 work, but the crux of the story is Hughie and Butcher’s relationship, and I feel like that shouldn’t be so hard to adapt to screen.
>>153575017Because as he is now they call.him a "twink" bitchboy.Bald wee scottish laddie works infinitely better for the moral centre of the team.>>153574483To me that's precisely why it would be so interesting. Because you're not tuned into that past worldview/context, you get more of a deeper commentary on things. It's not just "Arabs did 9/11", it's a critique of the individual.approach men have towards the millitary, spec ops, men of violence etc.
why did clonelander speak so simple like?
>>153574483>>Herogasm not taking place in an island as a dig to the Epstein elite that runs the US is weak as fuck>>The fact that there is absolutely ZERO parallels to Epstein is incredibly weak, too, and just goes to show that there is no fucking way ANYTHING coming out of Hollywood is a decent critique of the shitty third world country that is the USAIncredibly real.Nuking Vic the Veep was imho an error too because he was funny as fuck and an integral.cog.to the government-vought plotline.
>>153575405>Because as he is now they call.him a "twink" bitchboy.So?>Bald wee scottish laddie works infinitely better for the moral centre of the team.How exactly? Is there something about ugly Scotsmen that makes them more moral?
>>153575421It judt fit that he represented the "weakest" parts of manhood. Baldness, short, speaks funny.Him coming to the US from Scotland was also a cool bit which made him connect with Butcher, give his opinions on the yanks, introduce funny dialogue and situational humour(g-wiz mistaking him for an irishman or Butcha calling him out for jerking it to QUEEN Maeve.)Also with that retcon you'll never be able to adapt Highland Laddie which is fucking kino of the highest degree.Hughie Campbell is an inferior.charavter to Wee Hughie'
>>153575017He's the little guy. The nepobaby is just a fag.
