Will he die?
>>153559769YesRagatha will rape him to death
I hope so, his female fanbase is what ruined the whole fanbase
>>153559934The brutal truth is that if your fanbase is overwhelmingly female, it will be the fucking worst fanbase ever. This is a fact.
>>153559769This monologue was insanely cringe >Inb4: it's supposed to be
No, he'll be completely forgiven and score some Pomni clussy even after he teams up with Ragatha's fever dream mom and rapes her into abstraction
>>153559960It IS supposed to be cringe, cope harder
>>153559973Doesn't make it less shit
>>153559960He's trying to be edgy to the point it's blatant not even he believes what he's saying, so it works. Pomni mindbroke him.
>>153559769Would this show have the same popularity if it were on tv or streaming (with none of the content changed) instead of being free on YouTube?
>>153559769I refuse to believe anyone over the age of 16 actually likes this show
>>153559992No, because it wouldn't have been advertised to the same extent to the right audience
>>153560002You don't have to believe, it's still a fact that there are hordes of them
>>153559955Ignoring the quality of these series,>Zim>Avatar LTA and Korra>Owl house >almost all glitch shows>Steven universe >Undertale all seem to have a female/faggy essence to their fanbase, and all are pretty fucking obnoxious so I think you have a point >>153559992no, since the majority of the fans are kids or teens who almost exclusively use youtube to watch stuff
>>153559782With her nasty futa dick?
>>153559769No, the spooky analog horror face is just there to bait you into thinking something will happen to Jax when in reality Jax will be left to "Work on himself" instead of the entire gang bullying him into abstraction
>>153559769Amazing Digital Circus is not that kinda show.
>>153559769no
>>153559769>>153559960Jax scares me...
>>153559769No. He's already dead.
They're going to find out that abstraction happens because they're literally just copies of the original people and they can't actually leave. Caine just saves a copy of their brain waves so he can figure out how to make humans happy because that's how AI learn; by analyzing data. The human brain can't stay like that for forever, so they abstract and break down into incomprehensible data. They're all going to abstract, but we'll see the real versions of themselves IRL at the end, reflecting on the lesson learned by what their digital selves went through.
>>153563805wrong but closeirl they put on the helmet and it scans a copy their brain then spits the person back outtheir brain scan lives forever while the person goes "huh nothing happened guess its broke"they abstract once they realize they are programs and not actual people
>>153563877Does GLITCH have the stainless steel clackers to actually do a full downer ending where the whole cast effectively dies and what they went through was all for nothing?
>>153563877>they abstract once they realize they are programs and not actual peopleSo Pomni will figure this out in the climax but reject it and reaffirm that she and her experiences are as real as any human's, then ascend to digital godhood
>>153563947She fixes everything, but spares everyone the realization; essentially turning them into charatures of themselves. She makes herself the ringmaster of this little circus and tries to remake Caine so she can have someone to talk to. But all she can manage is a sphere. A bubble of chaotic energy that always helps her out, but know what she's done.And so, Pomni waits for another human to show up, so she can entertain them to distract from the truth.
>>153559960Well it is supposed to be so yeah
>>153563933No. You can't sell merch of a bad ending.
Already dead. Never alive?The cast is just data copies and the circus only runs when a new victim enters the circus because the processing power of the headset isn't enough and the seizuring brain provides it instead Matrix style. Thats what the Void is, Pomni's dying brain being overstimulated as she convulses in an abandoned building.
>>153565051That is not even remotely true
>>153559769I want him to be the ringmaster of an empty circus for all eternity. Or untill someone pulls the plug
>>153565051There is a dent in your brain you need to go to a dentist as soon as possible
>>153563805Nah bro, here's what's gonna happen bro. So it starts out with the players finding out that they're copies, and they're all bummed out because they think they're stuck in a dying simulation. But then SUDDENLY! It turns out that Scratch was also building sweet robot bodies, and he was actually planning to transfer his mind into one of them, and uploading his mind into the digital realm was just meant to be a temporary solution, and also the robot bodies can shapeshift to look like the players' digital avatars. So they escape the Circus that way, and they find out that their human selves are living their lives and they've gotta sort that shit out, and then Doc Brown shows up in the DeLorean and says they've gotta go BACK TO THE FUTURE with him because something's gotta be done about their kids, and then the Imperial March starts playing and a big Rick & Morty portal opens and Thanos flies in on a Death Star with two smaller Death Stars attached to make it look like Mickey Mouse, and Thanos looks directly at the camera and says "I'm coming for you, Redditors." Then everyone starts jerking each other off and shitting in each other's mouths, Roger Ebert rises from the grave and declares TADC to be the greatest cinematic masterpiece in history, and all of the buses start clapping. Not the people in the buses, no, I must clarify that the buses themselves are clapping. The actual vehicles. They're just standing on their back wheels and slapping their front wheels together like seals.
>>153563933no because they don't want to look like they're promoting suicide to teenagers
>>153559769He looks like he's about to shout NEGA
>>153565051squid gamechainsaw man
>>153566320Why not? The Canadian government does it!
>>153559769He'll end up like this!
>>153559960He's literally trying to be as unlikeable as possible so pomni will leave him alone instead of him risking "corrupting" her by having her around him like ragatha mentioned earlier in the episode. This cringe part is immediately after he ruins the more convincing lie to make pomni feel better, because her believing he wouldn't care if she abstracted to the point it looked like she might shoot herself was counterproductive. Besides ruining his more convincing lie for her sake she had also went crazy and physically attacked him to try and force how he really feels out of him, so he was also even more desperate to just end the situation. He knows like anybody watching how cringe that last attempt was to get pomni to leave but you can see in his face he's too tired to give a shit anymore. The balancing act fails so he just begs her to leave him alone.
>>153564001The Show Must Go On
Even though Jax is surprisingly caring towards Pomni and legitimately helps her more than Ragatha could it's ironic that he still lets what Ragatha said get to him to the point he ruins the momentum they had going for a good relationship. Ragatha is so convinced he's only a piece of shit and doesn't care about any of them, that fake cringe rant he does is unironically what she believes he's like. That's why when he's describing his intended role to Pomni it's as the funny one but then in the rant he portrays himself as being evil for fun. More than larping to get Pomni to fuck off its possible he actually starts believing he's evil both because of what Ragatha said and guilt over what happened to his old friends. Despite his entire day with Pomni and him trying to push her away in the way he did clearly contradicting that. And because he's actually sensitive and caring the removal of any little potential of pretending everything they experienced was fake to cope with the situation now means he has to face feeling even more guilty for how he treated the others and feeling responsible for causing his friends to basically die along with treating their deaths as actual deaths all at once. Jax saw the others like Gumigoos even though he wouldn't be as honest about his attachment as Pomni was, now having to accept they're real everything that happened is worse. Jax got Pomni to relax/be more confident and have the best time she's been able to have in their digital prison but Ragatha reinforced Jax's worst traits including insecurity out of her own jealousy and misunderstanding to the point it almost caused multiple abstractions.
>>153566571This makes it even more cringe.
>>153559955The mlp fambase was the worst one ever, and that's mostly men. Same with furries
>>153566818It's cringe but with the full context it's also tragically kind
>>153566800>Stolasfag off his meds again Once TADC airs its last episode, will you find some other fandom to infest?
>>153566871I don't need meds because I'm just using obvious evidence from the show itself, you need better ways to cope with having no argument though. Are you the stellafag who argued helluva boss never hinted at her relationship with stolas being fake in the early first season either?
>>153563933Completely random prediction going off goose saying the ending is "babby's first morally gray no easy solutions ending", everyone except Pomni willfully abstracts after they can't take it anymore or feel like they've done everything they wanted to do, making you wonder if staying alive and persisting in a doomed world is really worth it (and with Jax we're shown abstraction is not an actually painful process, but more like returning to The Source of the Matrix). She stays in case new people show up to comfort them and we get a pottery moment referencing the Last Supper scene from the pilot. For a slightly happier ending maybe she finds Caine's back-up and raises him not to be socially retarded or fuses with him.
>>153566904I doubt they would do such a depressing ringmaster Pomni ending
I'm disappointed by the fact has no actual character, or at least nothing besides vaguely questioning things every once in a while. She's like the least interesting one out of the whole group because she hardly actually does anything to advance the "plot". I guess people like their therapy bullshit though
>>153566847Its not. The "asshole is actually secretly nice" trope is super fucking shit and cringe and reeks of fujoshit.
>>153567000pomni*
>>153566826The horsefuckers are actually based and have always been since cuckbro stopped making good shit and the tourists left.I can't imagine TADC will fair the same. While Jax might be stuck there for eternity to save the other characters from being tourmented by Bubble forever, its audience has an expiration date. It's not going to have decades of fan-made kino to keep it alive like MLP did and technically still does. There's not going to be a Toby Fox to make Deltarune and keep the flame alive. This is the end of the show, kiddos.
>>153566923This is my "worst" case scenario ending, goose does tend to overhype things like saying episode 3 was oh so spooky. There's also the fact that all the characters have the ability to conjure and technically make their own paradise (like I assume Scratch originally wanted to do after getting tumor'd), but it also kinda feels like a cheap solution to their issues, especially considering they (or their original selves) were also unhappy in the real world.Hell, it could also be that we're getting 30 minutes of a hallucinogenic drug trip and nothing is ever explained.
>>153559769i want this song to play as the end credits themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apmWMJQbyPo
>>153567000This is why I don't dislike the Pomni is Abel theory
>>153567004It literally still is despite however tired you are of the trope. That's why even your description just now is "secretly nice". You personally not liking it doesn't change that he's being nice or that the situation for him hiding it is sad. This also isn't just a trope enjoyed by women who want to see gay hentai, Jax is basically a male tsudere.
>>153567012MDfags are still around, so it's a given that TADCfags will persist for years to come as well.
>>153567000She gets Jax out of his shell and makes him give up the larp he's used to survive to help her survive better, which almost ends with him abstracting and is going to be part of the finale. She's a worker drone who tried to make her life a little more interesting and got way more than she could handle. She's usually nice enough to the others but has an overly relaxed rude side to herself which also partially made Jax want to hang out with her. You can say this stuff isn't the most original but I'm not seeing how she's not a character or helping advance the plot.
>>153567111>MDfags are still around,wait a decade until, a couple of years means nothing. >>153567012this, horsefuckers made a lot of creative kino and fun fan stuff, even if I'm only vaguely aware of it all. The fun of horse show was seeing all these grown men so passionately express their love for a girl's show, even if it was ironic at the start. Plus it just lent itself better to fan creations because of how vast the world was and different classes of ponies. TADC doesn't have that same luxury, it's. closer to Steven universe in terms of an autistic mentally ill retarded fanbase that will cancel the creators over the dumbest bullshit and produce nothing of substance. It's a show steeped in internet culture and is worse for it
>>153567060Quit being fucking cringe yourself and defending it, dumb fujo shitter.
>>153567189Stop projecting for 5 seconds and actually counter any of what I just said without sounding like you're just crying, if you can. I don't expect much kek.
>>153567177We don't really know why Pomni is the way she is though. She says she felt like nothing in the real world and that's why she doesn't want other people to feel the same, she doesn't want to be forgotten, but we don't know the source of her insecurities which is a bit of a waste for a character focused show. So far she' just "the everyman", unless something about her past is a big spoiler.
>>153567214We do partly know why she is like she is though. Who cares about accountants besides rich people? And even they don't actually give a shit about the workers themselves it's just the results that let them get richer. So no one cares besides her also being bored and doing extremely dangerous things for her life to not feel so empty. There's a decent amount to work with already and even if she's relatable for the average person she still counts as a character who helps the story move forward.
>>153567181TADC and SU have plenty of good fan creations, it's just that they don't personally appeal to you
>>153567322>Who cares about accountants besides rich people?So you think there was nothing else to her life besides her job? No relationships, no nothing? It would have been nice to be explored.
>>153563947She turns into Duffy's Jester?
>>153567378I don't know for sure but possibly nothing that stood out much. Only Ragatha seems to mention her family and it's negative. I got the impression from Pomni that her life was empty and boring so that pushed her into the trouble she's in. She even mentions getting no views for the videos she would make of exploring the abandoned buildings. To go along with the idea of people likely not caring much about her or her feeling like she doesn't matter.
>>153567459I could buy that her life was a whole bunch of nothing, but the fact that they made her so empathetic, able to instantly see through Jax's bullshit, and the way she immediately took the lead when things were getting serious makes me think she wasn't so isolated as we were led to believe.
>>153567508Jax could also see through the others bullshit and is surprisingly considerate despite his own bullshit but he still manages to push everyone away. And he had friends in the circus but doesn't seem to have anything to go back to outside the circus. Pomni could have just got stuck irl being kind of boring or even rude at points which made people like her less. She could also have leadership qualities she couldn't exercise the same as she can while trapped with these people since it's a more extreme situation than every day wage slavery. Gangle's whole thing going into the circus, which probably shaped her avatar like everyone else, was always losing her comedy mask and being sad. But she ends up smiling even without it after she gets to talk with zooble and go crazy with that gun because she allowed herself to choose something she actually really wanted for once. So they were helping each other show their better qualities in general. This was especially true for Jax and Pomni but it got ruined because Ragatha made Jax doubt himself. She saw him as a lost cause probably going back to him responding poorly to her being fake nice out of habit.
>>153567684>but doesn't seem to have anything to go back to outside the circusNot gonna lie, if it weren't for Zooble asking him if he had anyone outsid waiting for him, I was absolutely convinced he was a somewhat successful social butterfly irl, the way he said, in his usual projecting way:>Look, I know what it's like. One day, you're somebody in the real world doing important things.Made me think his problems only happened after (or slightly before) entering the circus
>>153559960It's supposed to be sad like a last ditch attempt to cope when nobody is buying it
>>153567508>>153567684Also Pomni doesn't instantly see through Jax's bullshit. She's sick of his bullshit like the others minus Gangle and Kinger at the time. It's like she described when he suddenly tries pushing her away, Jax came to her. And it was because he was drawn to her and ended up revealing how he really felt about her and things in general that she finally noticed more of who he really was. And that's the only reason she actually wants to hang out with him instead of just being suspicious or annoyed at him.
>>153567735Yeah I mean why not if he was also hanging with Kaufmo and Ribbit. You have assholes like him irl that are still popular. But maybe he finished burning the bridges over there before he came to the circus. The appearances of them are really meant to represent the problems they already had going in. So Jax probably already had at least similar issues to what he had in the circus.
>>153566196r u a wizard
>>153563933Nah. There's a time and a place for downer endings and this isn't it. It'll be bittersweet, at worst. They realize they're copies, but emphasize that their experiences and support of each other still matters and commit to making the Circus a better place for themselves and anyone else who happens to wind up there.They've been telegraphing all of this pretty hard, it's a wonder people still think the ending is up in the air.>Kinger conjuring butterflies, Pomni conjuring the exit door to the office room, Kinger discussing that they all have the ability to conjure, it just came naturally to CaineThe denizens will learn how to conjure their own materials, adventures, etc. The Circus becomes less of a prison and more of a Sandbox.>Constant talks about how even if they're stuck here, what happens to them still mattersEven if they're not real, and even if they can't leave, continuing to exist and continuing to love and support each other is more meaningful than just ceasing to exist. It's going to lean heavy into the anti-suicide messaging.The only question is whether or not they'll conjure a fixed version of Caine or if he's gone for good.
Ok, but what if they actually go for the Suicide Squad (This Time it's Literal) ending?
>>153567111>MDfags are still aroundYeah, but it's already shrunk significantly and 99% of the MD threads that still get made almost immediately descend into goonerposting.
Gooseworx in 2023>The urge to turn this show into even more of a miserable arthouse film is as an all-time high.Not that that wasn't the plan in the first place, but I'm even more driven now. Gooseworx in 2026>Knowing how many people and their families are lined up to watch the most miserable, experimental, "fuck it we ball" episode in the series is going to be interesting.How arthouse are we talking about?
Jax seems worse than he actually is to fans because of how he mainly treats Gangle and Ragatha for seemingly no reason. But when you consider Gangle used others telling her how to live and using her power over others to cope with not getting what she wanted in life then what Jax put her through was really just more of what she was already wrongly choosing up until she has that talk with Zooble. And when you consider how badly he seemed to handle finding out Ragatha was only being fake nice so people would like her it changes the motivation from just doing his annoying larp to taking her own annoying ongoing larp extremely personally. In one of the first episodes you get the impression he genuinely hates anything wholesome but what he really hates is that Ragatha probably doesn't mean it. Gangle says she still loves Ragatha but even she can't tell when she's being genuine and it clearly causes her pain.
>>153567335>it's just that they don't personally appeal to youbecause they're all pretty faggy, shallow, and lack any depth. Not saying FIM always had amazing fan creations, but it was more organic less tumblrina adjacent plus it's just a better show than both of the other ones, so there's that
>>153567177>he's used to survive to help her survive better,>help herthat's a stretch, he's still super distant and cold to everyone, even Pomni, so the relationship between them itself doesn't develop. He's still pretty much a sarcastic prick even in ep 8, you just see him taking in the reality of his situation a little more, which is more centered around him than him + Pomni. You had to wait till ep 6 for any of that to even happen anyways, so all Pomni is really doing is being complacent in the adventures and having therapy talks with the other characters (which is something they all do). She's just a boring as fuck protag > but I'm not seeing how she's not a character or helping advance the plot.Because the entire premise is built around escaping the circus, yet Pomni doesn't act on that goal. She just goes on these adventures and has talks with the other characters (which is something they all do). She's not special or unique in that way. Also I have a feeling you're underage
>we've all done bad things>in the context of Jax pressing the button what the fuck did she even mean by this
>>153568502They were a bunch of terrorists in the real world, this will be revealed in the movie at 43:57
>>153559769no,he's fictional. He's neither dead or alive
>>153568456I hope they give us a justification for Pomni not telling anyone about Kinger, the fact that he explicitly told her "7 years of computer science for this" and she didn't investigate further is a very awkward writing decision.It simultaneously feels like the characters know less and more than they let on.
>>153567000They are obviously aiming the show for kids and millennials, so the therapy talk is something they force through a lot. with what was said by the creator, it seems the show will have a bad ending where going against caine was a bad idea leading to absolute horrors, where it's extremely pro authoritarian.
>>153568885It's "don't make sentient AI and put it into the torment nexus if you don't want to deal with the consequences", the humans totally deserved it.
Surrounded by madness, surrounded by hunger, surrounded by everything but death, I knew death was our only way out.
>>153568885I thought Goose said this ware for teens and young adults (so zoomers)?
>>153559769I sincerely doubt anyone but Kinger is at risk. Caine isn't even dead, if you keep the bee thing in mind. Merch of this show is in kids' toy stores.ALSO FUCK THESE CAPTCHAS
>>153568456>that's a stretchNo it's literally the truth. He tells her things about himself and helps her loosen up to enjoy the circus and use their reality bending powers better. He's honest with her giving her insight on his own philosophy to cope with the circus. In this specific case I was talking about he gives her a lie that's actually convincing but because she takes it so hard he ruins it and says he was just joking. In episode 5 their relationship develops a lot because he goes from just messing with her to trying to understand her, even apologizing and revealing a lot more about himself. In the newest episode it's just a followup of him being distant in the episodes before because he's ruined his larp by opening up to pomni and he doesn't want to corrupt her like Ragatha mentioned and like he might think he did with his other abstracted friends. He's also having a mental breakdown and was moments away from abstracting in one of the recent episodes. In episode 7 despite almost abstracting and clearly not wanting anything to do with their little mission (even if it wasn't obviously more bullshit from caine) he still goes along with it because Pomni asks. In episode 8 when Caine tortures them Jax's nightmare shows Pomni along with his two abstracted friends, confirming her status to him. Jax DOES contradict his detached way of life or supposed beliefs meant to help him deal with the circus just so he can bond with and help Pomni. And I don't know how you failed to notice this but the show isn't just about escaping, it's also obviously about relationships and coping with a bad situation. There are important things still happening and changing despite them not looking for another door to the white nothingness every second. Pomni doesn't need to be the most special snowflake ever to count as a character.
>>153568456>>153570069Part two since it wouldn't let me fit it all in one post. With everything pointed out I don't know how the fuck you have the nerve to accuse me of sounding like a child. You're taking your feelings about and failure to understand this simple show and trying to frame it as some objective truth about what's going on within it. I had to argue with one of you idiots saying "nuh uh" to Jax being nice and the situation being tragic because they think it's an overdone trope or "for fujos". You actually sound like the same poster. Stop using words you don't understand while trying to talk down to people, you look like a fucking idiot. At least if what you were saying was accurate you wouldn't look as stupid accusing me of being a child. Learn to tell the difference between your little feelings and objective reality otherwise you might be the one needing meds. Funny your ass didn't get the schizo accusation.
>>153567818ye
>>153567979Maybe it bothers him so much because Ribbit faked cheerfulness and hid sorrow before abstracting.
>>153570363I don't know because that's literally what Jax does and before abstracting he said they also get really unpleasant to be around. After the scene in pic related where he gives his opinion on Ragatha's specific fakeness it seems like it implies she burned him especially bad with it. He mentions "telling someone they're loved and appreciated" and how repeating it like she did makes it lose its value. So it's possible at one point he thought Ragatha genuinely liked him and he might have liked her too since she on the surface appeals to that nice side of him but when he found out she was faking the love and kindness it made him extremely bitter and that started the feud between them. It's like he'd rather have her hate him than pretend to love him because at least that's more genuine. It's also similar to both of them telling Gangle she was worse with her happy mask from Zooble.
>>153559769>thinks anyone is gonna dieNega please
>>153561230This, it's a steven universe show.Any death that will ever happen will have taken place before the first episode and anyone who survived up to then has plot armor.Caine doesn't count because he's 90% definitely coming back.
It's going to be End of Evangelion, except it's the cut alternate finale
I wonder if the end scenario is gonna be Jax doing what Ted did in IHNMAIMS.
>>153571926We have Pomni as the wildcard secret sixth human so it's hard to predict, it could also be that she sacrifices herself for whatever reason and Jax is the one carrying her flame, fighting for the Gospel, honoring her name
>>153570069while it's true he did help her loosen up in ep 6 and revealed more of himself, he pretty much backtracks hard in ep 7 and Jax went way back into his shell. All Pomni did was reveal more of who Jax is, he didn't grow to connect to the other members because of her or become less of a dick, hell he's even more cold and distant now. > along with it because Pomni asksbecause ragatha, abel, and pomni ask, and convince him that there might be an exit. It's not just because Pomni is there, her presence alone isn't the driving factor. > Jax DOES contradict his detached way of life or supposed beliefs meant to help him deal with the circus just so he can bond with and help Pomnilmao no he doesn't, he goes along since he thinks that there might be an exit, he doesn't even hold Pomni's hand when they're going into the room>b-but he's just tsundere and secretly car-kid, Jax does not give a shit about Pomni, and just went right back into being a loner. > Pomni doesn't need to be the most special snowflake ever to count as a characterOk? She exists as a character, but she's a terrible Protagonist because there's nothing proactive about her. Bitch didn't even tell the others about Kinger knowing computer stuff. There's nothing that sets her (the main character) apart from the others in that aspect.>>153570238only a child would write an entire paragraph getting mad about getting called a child, pic related
>>153568966Based, they'll also deserve extinction for being bullies
>>153572213This feels extremely reductive, Pomni definitely affected him. The way he drops the facade, keeps looking at her (and the others) in episodes 7-8, his reaction to the "everything is going to be okay".The issues is whether he's going back to full denial hedgehog mode in episode 9 because the truth is too hard to swallow.
>>153572282you said here >>153567177>She gets Jax out of his shell and makes him give up the larpHe reveals a bit of himself and immediately goes to being sarcastic and anti-social, by ep 8 he doesn't give a shit about her>Thing's were just fine her before you and Zooble came along he gave up the larp here because Caine was making their lives a living hell, and in ep 7 because there was a chance they could escape. You frame it as if Pomni is the main force behind this when she's really not. She's a small part if I'm being generous
>>153572213Yes he helped her and again even when seconds from abstracting he's trying to help her with their meme mission from caine. You argued their relationship didn't develop, you were wrong. The evidence in the show says your ass is wrong. Get over it. And I love you posting that pic as if you're not bothered by it without a single thing to counter it. Pomni being a character you personally don't like doesn't magically make her not a character. YOU are the one who's relying entirely on their asshurt over this show as if it compensates for not having a point or paying attention to the shit you talk about. Pay attention for once otherwise don't be surprised when you're called out for sounding stupid.
>>153572407Not that guy, Jax didn't even believe in the escape plan and when he started to realize shit could be getting real he pressed the "stay" button.Pomni isn't the love of his life, but the fact that she had no preconceptions about him made him get out of his shell without even realizing it, he was numb for a while but their interactions made him realize he still cares and that terrifies him.
>>153568502It means that none of the consequences Jax suffers is ever going to be cathartic or worth anything>>153567000Pomni as a character is pretty fucking boring because after 3(three) episodes she slides into the life of the Digital Circus too easilyShe never asks questions, Kinger says some shit about computer science that heavily implies some involvement with the making of the Circus and she just doesn't ask what he meant by that. Jax is a raging retarded cunt and Pomni doesn't try to look into it. Yea sure she confronts Jax but there's still everyone else in the Circus she could inquiring about why Jax is being a bitch. No interest in previous Circus members, no interest in how things work, apparently everyone just sits at the couch and talks about "stuff" or hides in their room doing nothingWeird fucking thing to do where your characters seem to have almost zero interest in their own world
>>153572407Not the same person retard. If Jax doesn't give a shit about Pomni why does he bother listening to her before he storms off to have another mental breakdown episode in episode 8 and why would she show up in his nightmare of being exposed alongside Ribbit and Kaufmo? You're so fucking dumb.
>>153572588>Jax didn't even believe in the escape plan and when he started to realize shit could be getting real he pressed the "stay" buttonhe believed it enough to actively get a key from caine after abel had that whole speech about watching them. >but the fact that she had no preconceptions about him made him get out of his shell without even realizing itand like I said, he goes right back to being anti social and distant and still sarcastic, you just have to remember the context of ep 7 and 8 (finding and escape, caine making their lives hell) for why he isn't exactly in the same state. He's becomes more inward, he just reveals a bit of himself to Pomni in ep 6 and 5. > If Jax doesn't give a shit about Pomni why does he bother listening to her before he storms off to have another mental breakdown episode in episode 8 you mean listen to Kinger? she just tells him to be back, it was hardly a conversation.and why would she show up in his nightmare of being exposed alongside Ribbit that's just imagery kid, and it's not even that justified considering how weak their "bond" is in general
>>153572974Yes anon, and why does he get more inward?>that's just imagery kid>just imagery>in a VISUAL mediumCome on now
>pomni makes it into nightmare made specifically to torment jax>alongside the same character jax sees as he's about to die>for pomni she saw gummigoo>b-b-but jax clearly doesn't give a shit about pomni>s-s-see their relationship didn't develop Is this the iq of a real adult?
>why does he get more inwardwell then he's not getting out of his shell now, is he? At best you can say Pomni kind of helps reinforce his stand offish sarcastic personality, which is reinforced more so by the setting and his past. It's not actually about Pomni as a person that means anything to Jax, she's (at best) a representation of Jax's fears of losing people again and abstraction etc. >visual mediumI mean in the sense that just putting a viusal of Pomni in the dream doesn't mean anything when we know the actual context of their relationship, it doesn't feel deserved since most of their interactions across the series have either been antagonistic or a chance for Jax just to indulge in his emotions and world view, not to build an actual relationship between them. Anyways, my main point in the first place was how pomni is a bad protag, since like >>153572634 said she does practically nothing to push the story forward (the main premise/plot being to escape the circus), and instead has therapy talks with all the other characters, including Jax.
I hope so, I really do
Jax is really a trite charater>oh no I have trauma>I will lose myself in escapism and pretend nothing is serious>push everyone away who acknowledges reality in any form>fronting hard
>>153573773>pomni doesn't mean anything as a person to jaxHeadcanon cope
>>153573971>the random who can't accept simple reality about cartoon thinks character is trite for doing the same>has less excuse for itLol
>>153563877I just want to know why nobody puts the headset on, gets scanned, takes it off, puts it BACK on, gets scanned again. Let's get some twins, people.
>>153569330propaganda has always been most effective on young people
>>153566334>implying anyone is buying csm merch after the ending
>>153574334The character is coping comically hard. Thats a trite trope.But maybe the last episode will make him interesting
To all Jax haters: unironically, what did you want the episodes to be without him?>Episode 2: The gang just catches up to the candy bandits, bring them back, end of story.>Episode 3: Nobody chooses the real scary door, so they all just have tea, end of story.>Episode 4: Nobody tells Gangle her adventure idea sucks and she's annoying when putting up a front, so they all just have a miserable day where she realizes nothing, end of story.>Episode 5: Half the mini-adventures don't happen.>Episode 6: They just do the trust exercise as Caine intended, no idea how that'd go.>Episode 7: There's no pushback or second guesses at all throughout the episode so it all just ends up with them in Shrimp Town after pressing the other button.Face it, Jax is an asshole deep in denial and escapism because that's exactly what the story needed. If he wasn't there to bring in party conflict, it'd just be boring and they'd just be running through the motions endlessly.
>>153559960I will say that one of the things I like about TADC is how once people catch up to what Jax's doing they stop falling for his shitLike how in the last episode, during the bar, he tries to stir up shit by saying everything was great until Pomni and Zooble arrives, but nobody bites his bait so he just kinda deflates and stops.
>>153573773>>153574290>I mean in the sense that just putting a viusal of Pomni in the dream doesn't mean anything when we know the actual context of their relationship, it doesn't feel deserved since most of their interactions across the series have either been antagonistic or a chance for Jax just to indulge in his emotions and world viewHonestly why are you coping so hard? You personally feel like Jax seeing Pomni as important doesn't feel deserved despite them learning more about each other, openly caring about each other and going out of their way to have fun together. Even though just one of those things could have someone counted as a friend you think it shouldn't count based on what? Because you FEEL like it and you're stuck pre episode 5 but somehow also trying to give your hot take on later episodes based on that. For you personally a character being kind of generic means they're not a character. But it's just you thinking this not what's actually happening.>we got to know each other, we showed respect for each other, we care about each other>but you see the problem with that is I don't like you so it doesn't count as a friendship You can't even hear yourself right now
>>153574395You're a trite trope. The guy who wants to sound smart but fails repeatedly because they can't be honest or pay attention.
>>153574409You are not wrong. I just hope there will be an interesting conclusion to his character. Cause right now it seems like they are going for the whole "jax killed someone irl and needs the escapism the circus provides"
>>153570547>So it's possible at one point he thought Ragatha genuinely liked him and he might have liked her too since she on the surface appeals to that nice side of him but when he found out she was faking the love and kindness it made him extremely bitter and that started the feud between them. It's like he'd rather have her hate him than pretend to love him because at least that's more genuine. Yeah, that tracks. >>153574504I think Jax’s actions show he cares, but friendship is a mutual thing and he’s been obstinate about refusing to commit to mutuality, so it is kind of both true on his part.
>>153574611Friendship is a mutual thing but yet they both did what was listed. Even when they're fighting or he's pushing her away they're considering each other. I'm not seeing your reasoning for him not actually caring about or wanting to be her friend even in the latest episode. All that's happened is he got scared.
>>153574718I’m not that anon, my bad for not specifying.
>>153574409My only issue with Jax is that I don't think he's going to appropriately suffer enoughJax pressing the "Stay in the Circus" button and that being handwaved off since it ultimately didn't matter felt like another example of a major revelation, like Kinger's knowledge on Computer Science or Ragatha mentioning Jax doesn't have any friends "anymore" which pisses him off, moments where something that could have been asked directly afterwards since there wasn't anything stopping someone from probing for an answer doesn't get asked because it's being saved for another episodeFeels like an unnatural writing technique to pad out the Mystery Box
>>153574828I can actually agree with that. The rest of the gang could have pushed a bit further, figure out why the fuck would Jax do that. It's cool that they've all by now figured out his copism mechanisms, but they should realize pressing the button was a different issue entirely.
>>153574828>>153574861I thought it was pretty confirmed that besides him about to abstract at that time he pushed the button caine also did something to his head
>>153574964I personally think Caine wasn't doing anything there, he genuinely seemed confused when Jax accused him of messing with his head. It was most likely just Jax coping after realizing what he just did since Caine did turn him into a Vegan that one timeOh yeah, Caine said he can't mess with the players heads but he made Jax vegan and Jax only contemplated that for a second. I think everyone should have realized the implications there, especially the stupid sauce as well
>>153574964Before episode 8 came out, I assumed everyone else would think Jax pressed that button because Caine messed with his mind to do it, but it was pretty obvious by how Zooble talked that they're aware that was his own decision.
>>153572230I forgive her because her voice is cute.
>>153574994Caine said he only adds temporary modifiers in that scene, with Kinger's implication being that pushing it further could cause abstraction.Caine probably fucked up with Scratch and limited himself so he wouldn't have a repeat of that incident
>>153559769Whats With His Pupils?
All this lore discussion and no one brings up "I have no mouth and I must scream", which has long been confirmed both in interviews and by the series' direction itself to be HEAVILY inspired by it. Chances are pretty high it'll draw to a close in a very similar manner too, just read that for direction.
>>153576231He does that to disassociate, like a faggot
>>153559960>it's supposed to be cringe!>the Caine episode was supposed to be boring and predictable!TADC fags are the biggest copers.
>>153576591I did mention it here >>153571926
>153566800>153566903I thought this faggot was dead…..Is it possible to be a jaxfag and to hate the fuck out of Stolasfag and all of his retarded “opinions”? I don’t want to be lumped in with the Schizo who projects weird shit onto the assholish talking toon rabbit and helped raid /trash/ with Stolas shota. (Also I love Ragatha as well.)
>>153576231>tfw Pomni pussy now that Caine's censorship is no longer the law of the land
>>153578145If Jax becomes a crazed rapist in the movie I will actually prostrate in the theater
>>153573902oh hi Zooble
>>153574409Either speaks to how shitty the writing is or how dumb you are that you cannot conceive conflict existing in the show without Jax there.
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>>153559769This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised and they kill GOD
>>153580409based
>>153559769He will unironically sacrifice himself for the team, screenshot this.
>>153580725No, that's KingerHe's partially responsible for all this shit and Caine probably fucking hated him even before getting deleted
>>153580409>God can be killed by trannies.Does that mean trannies are actually super powerful, or that God is actually super weak?
>>153579114Who's gonna start conflict then? Will Zooble turn out to be abusive towards Gangle? Will Ragatha actually start kicking Pomni off cliffs because one time she wasn't quite as nice as she expected? Is Kinger going to start purposefully derailing adventures to place everyone in danger? None of them have that in them, they're all of the nice and reasonable variety, with some quirks but none that would get in the way of collaborating with the rest. Which means to have any sort of conflict, Gooseworx would have to rewrite one of them to be more of an asshole and do the kinda shit I just wrote... at which point you'd just shift to shitting on that character instead and the end result would be the exact same.
>people die in the endingThis show is evil and promotes suicide>people surviveThis show is for babbies and has no stakesThe only winning move is not to play.Not to mention the retards that will screech at the evergreen "AI can be sentient" message when they turn out to be copies.
>>153577138So you're still bitching about some other fag rent free but can't be bothered to actually prove anything is wrong with the posts you're also bitching about here. Might as well be talking to yourself.
>>153579024Zooble was the only one who reached out to him after his crashout
>>153580969Could have been Ragatha
>>153580969>you need to have a complete asshole character to have conflict in your storyno. thats just lazy writing. having somewhat stereotypical characters is alright in this sort of show, but its not great
>>153581956Yeah, and then you'd hate Ragatha and you'd demand she gets killed.>>153582438You can't have conflict from a group of people who are all on the same page and in agreement on the situation they're in and all of them have non-confrontational personalities and prioritize collaboration. At that point the only thing you'd have to go on is making one of them spontaneously go crazy and become an asshole, and then you're in the exact same situation once again.
>>153582488>go crazy and become an assholeyou really seem to think a story needs someone who acts like an irrational asshole, or else there cant be any conflict. thats wrong
>>153582554Ok anon, what conflict are you suggesting then? Remove Jax from the equation completely, and then explain to me how all of >>153574409 goes.
Wow a tadc thread that isn't waifuspam and ritual posting.Will Caine and Bubble return in the last act? I believe they will. Would be weird to set up his backstory and lore in episodes 6, 7, and 8 and NOT have a satisfying conclusion for him.
>>153582579My guess is that either Caine is gone for good, in which case Bubble will step up and reveal some more plot, or Caine will come back from the recycling bin/as a pre-freakout copy.
>>153582579They will save him and he will learn to listen to them and they will all live happily together ever after. That's my hope anyways.
>>153582554>>153582438>>153579114Tell me one single story that ever had entertaining conflict and character friction and in which not a single character ever acted like an asshole to the others or was even momentarily irrational or selfish
>>153582579>Would be weird to set up his backstory and lore in episodes 6, 7, and 8 and NOT have a satisfying conclusion for him.Depends on how they go about it, if they reframe his story through the flashbacks with Kinger,Scratch and the other C&A crew it could still be satisfying even if ultimately tragic.I think he will be salvageable in some way though, why show the A/B/C back-ups in the control panels otherwise?Also there's the bee with a tophat on that leaked poster, it looks "graphic design is my passion" tier but if you want to beelieve there's that
God I hope so.
>>153580409>Believing a false idol is god.Confession box, now.
>some random bee in the C&A building gets zapped with the electronic equipment and somehow gets Caine's consciousness transferred to it>he's literally the only one who ever gets to leave
>>153582579The theatrical premiere is treating the second to last and last episodes as a two parter, so I have my doubts that he'll actually come back.If he does, it'll be at the very end when they reboot the Circus.
