Is there any difficulty in making a tween/hebe design (which for the purposes of this thread we'll define from 10 to 14) to be put in a show in western animation?For example Pacifica Northwest was given a noticeable chest and waist in Season 1 of Gravity Falls and that was clearly with the artistic purpose of making her more "mature" looking than Mabel, but ultimately those elements got erased in season 2Every girl in Star vs is essentially noodle design, even Star which canonically went trough Mewberty, but not Jackie to represent her as the ideal girl in Marco's eyes but it's kind of odd how much emphasis the show puts on it.Shows like As Told By Ginger and All Grown Up can get away with it because they're made for a female audience and are under the "Slice of life" umbrella.The Avatar franchise, Thundercats, and Omniverse get away with it because they're action shows, which require a lot of attention to anatomy for choreography, and are aimed at male teen audiences.>inb4: Just say you want a loli thread.Not really, you can search the catalog and find several already. I want to discuss about the process of character design for tween girls. Because you can design a teen or adult like Kim Possible and just make her curvy, or a small child and make it flat. But I'm very interested in the process of sitting down in a meeting and deciding how developed a character should look and how do they get it approved.I don't believe Wyatt drew Gwen going from flat to B-Cup in a span of canonically 9 months for omniverse flashbacks without having to justify it to execs, toy designers, advertisers like it probably wouldn't be neccessary for teen Alien Force Gwen.
>>153570585I think it’s more curious that you don’t really see a male equivalent in designs, like I can’t remember the last young male character I’ve seen with a bit of facial hair or a prominent Adam’s apple
>>153571741Probably because most of that would be in teen years as male puberty starts slightly later.The real equivalent would a tween male with a canonically confirmed big dick.
>>153570585>Not really,And yet, you give it that title...
>>153573537>And yet, you give it that title...Yes, I just want the concept to be understood by all.
loli enjoyers are pedophiles
>>153570585I think you're over thinking things. Besides story based elements like making some girls more developed for how it effects the main character, they likely just jotted down designs until something felt right.
>>153573837No, the industry is full with degenerates that know exactly what they're doing and how their characters will be sexualized.To say that the character designers, directors and staff very intentionally make hot adult women and they just don't give the same thought to teen and tween girls when they've originated many fetishes is very innocent.Yes, Gwen Tennyson is flat in the OG series, but they didn't just give her an slutty office siren look in Alien Force at 15 for nothing, now I can't believe they gave her distinctly bigger breasts in Omniverse The guys at Big Mouth claimed they designed their tween characters intentionally ugly to deter R34 content, so it implies they knew how to make them attractive.
>>153574270>in Omniversein Omniverse flashbacks
>>153570585Avatar got away with it because it was a different time, when you could acknowledge tweens are fertile and beautiful.That’s why the Korra cast are aged up to 18-21 instead (despite acting exactly as immature and childish and irresponsible as the Atla Tweens, if not more)
>>153574270>No, the industry is full with degenerates that know exactly what they're doing and how their characters will be sexualized.Not to mention it is mostly just a problem in the west.Even if you claim that "They just didn't put that much thought into it".Japanese media, from the mangaka trough several directors, producers, and committees have no problem showing the tween body the moment the girl gets any curves.If there wasn't any thought put into it, then all series would have flat characters due to streamlining or developed characters due to realism.There's active suppression going on.
>>153574312>when you could acknowledge tweens are fertile and beautiful.This is a thread about industry practices, keep the ideology out of it unless it's relevant to the industry practices.
>>153574270This but change “degenerates” to “people who don’t base their lives off of twitter”
>>153574312>tweens are fertile and beautiful.I know biologically they're ready but it's weird when you say it like that anon. It's like you like em young.
>>153574335The ideology is relevant to industry practices, because it is the reason behind that practice.They didn’t flatten and noodlify every tween until twitter became big enough to screech at them to.
>>153574379Isn't Kim a late Teen? Like 16, 17?Even today you would be hard pressed to find someone pretending a mid to late teen has no boobs.Miko on the other hand is built for cock for no reason.
>>153574427Kim’s 14 in S1 (where that gif is from)She’s aged up to 18 in the last season for the graduation plot
>>153574270>absolute sex>ugly>ugly>extremely ugly>cute and sex
>>153574408>I do like them youngAlrighty then.How young? your preferred age range in years please.
>>153574479you just want to report him and get him banned
>>153570585Op, are you sure this isn't one of those "these characters are all the same age" type of situation because some artists just don't know how to draw teenage characters?
>>153574379>because it is the reason behind that practiceSource? Are you saying there’s no other girls that age can relate to growing up in that specific phase? Can’t we just keep 2D 2D?
>>153574518He asked for it when he started bringing up IRL sociopolitics.
>>153574689>Source?The last 15 years of /co/Especially as there are several examples in OP, like Amphibia and Gravity Falls, which literally removed the breasts from Anne and Pacifica’s designs by Season 3/2 because of twitter kvetching over “noooo tweens can’t have curves!!”, This is also the case with /v/ in Deltarune, with these californian manchildren screeching and crying if someone draws 16 old Susie with a boob and they must remove them to make them look like men.and again in /co/ where the older teen and adult characters must act increasingly more childish to compensate, as is the case in Korra where now only 18-21 year old main characters are allowed, and yet they must act more childish than Atla’s tweens when they should already act like adults by now, and the tweens are written as babies.Ignoring the problem and pretending woke gay slop is good will never be an excuse.>>153574730Janny’s little cuck.
>>153573837It is hardly innocent in the same culture that forces real life underage actresses to hide their chest when puberty gets out of control.I'm not claiming whether is good or wrong, but they really want you to believe puberty doesn't happen until 15.I personally don't believe it is because they're puritans or something, there's probably economic factors.
>>153575117>Especially as there are several examples in OP, like Amphibia and Gravity Falls, which literally removed the breasts from Anne and Pacifica’s designs by Season 3/2 because of twitter kvetching over “noooo tweens can’t have curves!!”,I think you're lying.Yes, they did took out Pacifica's and Anne's boobs but I don't recall a y scretching. It was mostly an internal decision.As for the Deltarune thing, that did happen.
>4 different bodies>4 different stages of puberty>In a movie about pubertyYou can ask any man which character has the most R34 and most would guess rigth.Designers know how to make hot tweens if they want to.
>>153575282>all of them are 13 years old>different stages of pubertywhat? also Mei has the most porn because she's the MC
>>153575532>>153575282I mean, clearly Priya the brown princess is hotter but I can see why you'd think that.
>>153574346This really.Tweens are fertile in the sense of>It's technically possible but its mostly reserved for extreme situations like societal collapse.The simple truth is that men would consider hot a dirty rock on the street if it were vaguely shaped like a woman and tween characters that are distinguished from small characters fit that criteria and a bit more.
>>153574660The wildly different art styles in this image defeat the attempt to make any sort of point compairing them, but then that might be the point you're making. Is it?
You're lucky to see adult women with boobs, why do you think they would give to child characters?
>>153577057Forget her boobs, how can you make such soulless eyes?
>>153570585>>153574270>>153574286Gwen makes my pp hard.
>>153575117I'm talking about the “tweens are desirable" thing you mentioned. I agree there's a big issue with debreasting modern female characters, but I highly doubt that specific instance is the reason behind it. Besides, 2D beats reality any day.
>>153574379And when it isn't related with ideology or industriy practices?
I think some of you think about this entirely too much.
