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It's time to bring back cel animation
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>>153574434
Paper and pencil will suffice
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>>153574434
Right looks also good
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>>153574434
Ima tell you what I keep telling the anti-3d fags

bad art is bad art. the bad 3d art style started -before- cg movies became the norm. Iron Giant, emperor's new groove, etc.
there's nothing cel animation can do that digital can't do better. It just CHOOSES not to. it draws differently because it values ugliness and despises beauty. Ha-Satan is within it, hence the political content crammed into every orifice, but choosing ugly was the first stop.
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>>153574434
The Simpsons used digital animation in the 90s and nobody noticed.
Pic related was from 1995.
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>>153574571
Not all of them.
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>>153574434
No, it isn't. It's a horribly inefficient use of resources that was only used because it was slightly less inefficient than redrawing the background every frame.
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>>153575070
No, schizotard
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>>153574434
Technically, the only way I could see cel animation coming back is if there was a way to make selling the cels profitable enough to cover for the price of making the animation, but alas, there aren't enough animation fans willing to buy cels from their favorite animated shows to justify it.
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>>153574434
pay for it
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>>153575070
>Ha-Satan
Religitards shouldn't have rights
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>>153575216
Yes, psychofag
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>>153575366
No
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>>153575159
i often had a weird feeling of thinking an episode looked a bit weird/digital and then looking at the guide to see it was a super old episode and getting whiplash, ones well before the HD switch like that
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>>153575070
why do people keep glazing cel animation as some kind of magical medium that people only stopped using due to cost?

when in reality the industry shifted away from cels because it was trash
and not just that, but a lot of beloved 90s animated movies were partially or entirely digital and no one notices or cares
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>>153574571
Right can look good when the artists know (or care about) what they're doing.
Left requires you to know (or care about) what you're doing to reach a tolerable level, which gatekeeps the medium (and that's a good thing).
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>>153575494
Yes
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all you needed to post was this
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>>153577473
The fact that they traced and the bottom clip STILL looks uninspired...grim.
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>>153577473
>The extra frames are just digital tweening
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>>153574571
Depends.
>Rugrats got really bright for some reason
>EEnE looked too clean
>Catdog, I honestly never noticed the cel to digital transition
>Spongebob was fine
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>>153576439
Er-
they 100% moved away from it because of cost. the problem is, once animation suddenly cost 1% of what it used to cost to make, every executive WORLDWIDE just pocketed all the money and then slashed budgets even further than before.

but yes, most of your post I agree with.
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>>153577770
Pokémon inexplicably changed Musashi's hair color (digital should never have any trouble with that, wtf) and yet her doppelganger kept her original hair color
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Is there anything more obnoxious and cringeworthy than a bunch of fat, balding, middle-aged manchild fucks on the internet emotionally crying about digital animation? It has been like 30 years. Get fucking over it
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I think the lesson is that cartoons frequently benefit from some sort of obfuscation and restraint. primary colors being slightly faded, having some noise and non uniformity added, can ground shows and prevent them from coming off as gaudy.
you'll never be able to perfectly simulate the physical reality of cel animation but it can be approximated with digital methods. all it would take would be creators realizing that the ability to paint over their older animation with perfect saturated digital coloring isn't necessarily the best course.
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>>153577770
the painted backgrounds in spongebob help offset the issues with digital.
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>>153574434
Cel animation is literally a lost art. The skillset to do it no longer exists, and the machines to do it no longer work. Even in le heckin based Japan, the last non-digital anime was Astro Boy 2003. Don Bluth has pointed this out on twitter before.

Its gone the way of moon travel and supersonic passenger jets.
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>>153577473
The bottom clip is just animated worse than the top. For example, I thought the theme song back in 2015 when it was translated digitally did a nice job keeping the same energy as the cels, while being digitally colored and in 1080 to match the look of the show then.

Animation being hand drawn digitally looks bad when the animators work to make it look bad. People like Aaron Blaise and James Baxter should be a good references for how beautiful tradigital can be when it's given the right care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXolSQcEb4
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>>153577039
if this were true most of hanna barbera's catalog would not exist.
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>>153578826
>Cel animation is literally a lost art. The skillset to do it no longer exists, and the machines to do it no longer work. Even in le heckin based
that's not true while just for it's Opening this indie anime did cell animation (though so far it's still just a pilot episode)
https://youtu.be/6kpLhpQ173M?t=524
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>>153577473
why would they even do this
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>>153579960
nostalgiabait
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>>153578544
You.
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>>153575159
Looks like shit and not even shitposting.
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>>153578844
Thank you for sharing this
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>>153574434
>>153577473
Ban rigs.
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animation is probably the only artform where there is a cargo cult of people who insist it must be done in the most archaic, old fashioned way possible or it doesn't count, and these people aren't laughed out of the room but instead simply have a reputation for being 'purists'

no other art form puts up with this kind of nonsense

like, there is no comparative cargo cult in film that worships hand-cranked cameras and cutting film by hand, and insists that this is absolutely better and more pure than later film techniques

nobody insists that REAL photography is done with flash bulb cameras and people sitting still for several minutes to have their picture taken

nobody insists that if you don't use the crushed shells of rare mediterranean sea snails, it's not REAL purple pigment in your paints
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>>153578544
It's not even digital animation it's just digital coloring most of them cry about, but they don't even know enough about animation to understand the difference.
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>>153581315
If you're not blowing ocher onto the wall of a limestone cave in France it's not REAL drawing



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