MCU Uncle Ben apparently died in an accident that Peter had no involvement with.
>>153575151>MCU Uncle BenDoes he even exist? I don't remember Peter or May so much as referencing him.
>>153575388Peter says something along the lines of "bad things" happening
>>153575151>DifferentNo, that would make him Spider-ManHe's literally just not Spider-Man in this movie series
>>153575151>Our Peter Parker is just a gud boi innatelyEw.
>>153575519He got his aunt killed instead.
>>153575151That would've been the actual character instead this fucking loser
>>153575519>character arcs?!>in this generation??!Didn’t the new cartoon do the same thing? Completely bypass Uncle Ben and the whole “great power comes great responsibility” thing?
So is there a Gwen Stacy equivalent here?
>>153575663>>character arcs?!to be fair, it's not the arc that makes Peter interesting, it's the fact that Peter is such a flawed person.He's belligerent, he's selfish, he's angry, he's spiteful, but it's all curbed by a harsh lesson he learned young and feelings of guilt.It's better than...well honestly I don't know if it's better than MCU Spider-man, I can't describe him other than 'he's there'
>>153575151it'll never not be funny how the russo brothers and jon watts forgot about civil war
>>153575151Was he killed in a car accident while bringing Tom's giant order of vaseline and dildos
>>153575151MCU Spider-Man isn't Spider-Man. He's Iron Boy. This is just further confirmation.
>>153575663Its not so much about skipping the character arc but more about people being allergic to see an origin story when a character is introduced.
>>153575388>>153575663remember when people were hating on the Garfield movies for focusing on Pete's parents, which was actually a thing in the comics?
>>153575388His luggage in the first movie had B(I forget the middle initial)P on it. Implying it was Uncle Ben's luggage.
>>153575663
Refusing to mention Uncle Ben by name in any of the movies and then just dropping this in some interview is the definition of phoning it in.
>>153575886Implication isn't not the same as it actually happening.
>>153575388In Civil War he says he doesn't want to go with Tony because he doesn't want to leave May "with everything that just happened..." or something to that effect. That and the initials on the luggage are the only mentions, and they're barely even references.
>>153576152Exactly. That's why it sucked then and now it looks even more desperate and indecisive coming from them now.
>>153576152>>153576220I get not wanting to film the whole thing for a third damn time, but they danced too hard around it, and now their Spider-Man feels hollow.
>>153575151Why is it only Uncle Ben that gets this treatment? No one's going to imply that Krypton didn't explode or the Waynes didn't get shot just because we didn't need to see the origin redone for the dozenth time.
>>153575561That was from him giving Osborne a chance. Peter only got "selfish" after he killed Aunt May.
>>153575151>xitter thread
>>153575151>died in an accidentWhat, he used a power tool irresponsibly or something?
>>153576336>Why is it only Uncle Ben that gets this treatment?It's not. And they didn't do the Uncle Ben story because the Raimi movies are still remembered. Not for any other reason.
>>153578426>*BZZZZZZAPPP!*
>>153575663It's kind of embarrassing that even Spider-Man 2017 had Uncle Ben's death in the prologue shorts
>>153578580Did you actually read the OP and the comment you replied to? Any other examples than Uncle Ben you can give?
Did anyone really need to see Uncle Ben dying for the 7000th fucking time
>>153578625No, we were fine just assuming it. Did we really need to hear them retcon it years later into not happening/mattering?
>>153578614Backstories are reworked constantly dumbass. Absolute Batman. Waynes didn't get shot. Because you've seen it before. Exactly the fucking example you're asking for, retard. I also fucked you are mother.
>>153578871Absolute Bruce Wayne's father did indeed die in a mass shooting, and this was a large part of his motivation to become Batman. Anything where they didn't just modify it but remove it entirely? Because that's what we're talking about.
>>153578871>I also fucked you are motherI've seen people say "you're" instead of "your" before, but never un-contracted.
>>153578958I don't even give a shit if he has a different origin story than Uncle Ben dying. But then, what the hell is it? Why did he even become Spider-Man? What was his motivation? Where did he get the sentiment he expressed in >>153575886? A Captain America PSA in school? Why did he take it to heart so much, what made it personal?Every MCU character I can think of has something, even if it was introduced later or just implied. They were definitely implying Uncle Ben before, what purpose does changing it serve, and more importantly, what are they replacing it with?I get the impression the end of No Way Home is supposed to serve as the new painful formative experience that molds him into the type of hero he'll be (whole thing probably, not just Aunt May taking the place of Uncle Ben), but he was already Spider-Man for more than 3 movies by that point!
>>153579782>>153578661>>153578614>>153578426>>153576128You all forget that Peter was already trying to be a hero well before he was bit by a spider. The spider just woke up what was already in him. I fucking hate the MCU.
>>153579859I totally forgot about this retcon. Plaued right into the Iron Boy Jr. accusations, huh.
>>153576061It wasn't a GOOD thing in the comics.But more than that, it was taking too much from the Ultimate version.
>Everyone that shat on MCU Spider-Man and especially the characterization of Peter was right to do soNever BeatingThe Allegations
>>153578625He could have literally just spelled it out in a couple minutes tops, at leastSpecially considering the target audience here was probably not old enough to have necessarily seen any of the other Spider-Man movies.
>>153579859>You all forget that Peter was already trying to be a hero well before he was bit by a spider. The spider just woke up what was already in him. I fucking hate the MCU.No different than the retcons to his childhood in the comics, really.
>>153575886Lucky them.
>>153575151Bro that's like his defining moment, you remove that and you don't really have Spider-Man you just have Peter Parker with Spider powers
>>153575151didn't the second spiderverse movie literally state that this HAD to happen?
>>153576061It was dumb in the comics.
>>153578625It's pretty important to understanding the character and his motivations.Maybe he can have a scene at his grave or something.
