All that talk about revenge and grudge and after taking out multiple soldiers and going on sleepless nights she can't do it lol
>>153583789Killing soldiers who stand in your way is a different situation than facing an elderly, frail man on his knees begging for his life.
>>153583834bet you loved the slop of us 2
>>153583789She's weak to anal just like all the other water tribe girls. Butt bending her would feel so good
>>153583860gendo?
>>153583789It wasn't about him. It was about Katara getting closure and being able to feel good about herself. That guy is a useless drone tool who will inevitably die miserable and alone. At that point, killing him is an act of mercy.
>>153583789You're too immature to understand it
>>153584320Kinda like in GTA 4. At first it seems dumb that Niko spares that one guy, until you realize as a zonked out crackhead who barely speaks English dropped into a random place he doesn't know with no currency or resources, wandering around one of the most violent cities in America, he's going to die a much slower and more painful death than Niko could ever physically inflict upon him.
>>153583834I mean when that dude killed someone I loved I don’t care how frail or old he is I’m going to punch a hole through his head.
>>153583789It is always different when you're just defending yourself out in the world. What Katara was doing was more personal. Teaching the audience about calculated murder is often not a good lesson.
>>153583789the guy was so beyond weak, frail and pathetic that he completely killed any murderboner Katara had left.like that time Homer Simpson was spared by a bear out of pity because he was crying and sneezingThat loser killed her mojo harder than how he killed her mother
>>153584320no, it wasn't a "you suffer more staying alive" thing, the dude may look miserable but he literally begs for his life so he doesn't want to die, it was literally just weakness on her end, she says it herself "As much as I hate you *tears up* I can't do it...">>153584356revenge is good and the best thing you can do to heal, forgiveness is a meme and sometimes can even lead to further suffering in the future
>>153583834>>153584320>>153584847Y'know initially I was gonna agree with OP but reading these arguments I can actually understand Katara's perspective more now. I love the rare occasions when this board is actual logical discussion. It's a nice change of pace. I still don't love how 'enlightened centrist' the show can be about killing sometimes but I at least understand the other perspectives a little bit now.
>>153583834>>153584847>>153585441he burned her mom to a crisp, she saw her body turned into charcoal as an infantshe simply was too weak to do what needed to be done
>>153583789You would rather they show a literal child murder a man on screen in an animated kung fu show meant for kids?
>>153584532yeah but he was part of a military. a military which they are on a quest to dismantle.it's Ozai who should have been killed, and the entire show, and all the past Avatars all clearly agree with this. The lionturtle represents 'finding creative ways to get around stupid fake morality forced on you by outsiders' in other words, making a Nickelodeon show.this show has a weird relationship with prisons, actually. it fixates on them heavily, in a setting that logically should not have them. The fire nation was willing to genocide the airbenders purely to avoid the Avatar being reborn, but had they succeeded, would have bought themselves literally like 12 years.. meanwhile they put waterbenders, who should logically have the new avatar, in prisons.. where they have to manually feed, water, and wipe them so they can't waterbend, because a basic biofunction is the fuel for their powers. It's insane. The waterbenders would have been slaughtered everywhere, not just in the southern tribe.>>153585362there's a time for mercy and a time for vengeance. Don't let either one consume you.
>>153585621aint murder, it's extrajudicial executionwhich is another thing. we didn't just round the nazis up and put them into their own ovens. we put them on trial. we're civilized. that's important.the kooks who say 'if you get revenge (justice), you're as bad as they are' are truly fucking evil, and we're not like them, so we don't do what they do. Every day they steamroll over more people's basic freedoms and common sense behaviors, without any hope of defense or debate. We do things logically instead.
>>153585362Giving up on vengeance is NOT the same as forgiving someone. She just realized in the moment that killing him would ultimately serve no purpose for her. It wouldn't make her feel better, it wouldn't bring back her mom, it would just be her ending the life of a pitiful stooge who quite literally would throw his own mother to the wolves if it meant he could suck down oxygen for a few more seconds. All it would accomplish is sating the human desire to enact retribution, and that's a feeling thats fleeting *at best*
>>153585621Technically we saw Azula kill Aang>but the sharpy icy would've been too goreyJust make a black cut as soon as they are about to hit.I think a better argument for your case would be that kids would see Katara in a completely different light after murder.
>>153585655They didnt just take the Nazis out back and shoot them because they knew it would just make martyrs for future assholes to rally around. The trials were an attempt to examine and break down the very ideological shortfalls that led to the Third Reich to begin with. It was the world effectively cominf together and saying "See this? See all this crazy shit that happened? NEVER AGAIN, GOT IT?"
Why is this a question? Katara thought it'd give her closure but found the man too pathetic. He wasn't worth killing, and would bring her no satisfaction. She was disgusted with all of it, and so left.
>>153585767that is a good take from the situationI'd sooner say she used that excuse to not be as bad as he waskilling a defensive person is cowardlylike he did to her mothera pathetic war criminial
>>153584532>>153585362>>153585576If you want to kill another human being, just do it, anon. You dont need to wait for a magic word to be spoken that gives you permission to bash in someone's brains. There's quite literally nothing stopping you
>>153585879I don't want nor need to, but revenge of any kind is good for you
>>153585441Its actually one of the few really good examples of "if we kill him we'll be just as bad as he is!!"
>>153585946>"if we kill him we'll be just as bad as he is!!"Okay, let's not go crazy here. I hate that mentality in any context, and I don't think that's what they were going for in the Katara episode. And if that IS the case then that ruins any droplet of respect I have for it.
>>153585972Sorry to shatter your reality but thats partially what it is, at that point he was a completely defenseless old man who couldn't stop Katara even if he wanted too. Killing him in that moment is just plain old murder just like he did to her mother. And Katara was strong enough to not cross that line.
>>153585995>is just plain old murder just like he did to her mother....except the mother never committed a murder and the firelord didn't have any reasoning to have killed her instead of taking her prisoner?That's a false equivalence.
>le "revenge is a good thing!"Not even gonna bother with a (you), God bless ya sad little baestad
>>153585815>killing a defensive person is cowardly>like he did to her mother"if you kill a murderer the number of murderers in the world remains the same" ahh argument
>>153586087I don't know why I typed 'to call' so I'm gonna retype it so I don't get a fuckton of annoying 'lol typo' replies. Killing a murderer and killing a mom who did nothing wrong are different things and to say both are 'just as bad' is asinine.
>>153583789Would she have killed him if he had a nice life, wife and kids and property?Her excuse was definately a cope
>>153583834>an elderly, frail man>>153585995>he was a completely defenseless old manI feel like you guys should rewatch the episode because he isn't frail or completely defenseless. Dude walks like a mile and up hundreds of stairs to go shopping and it's clear he's extremely alert to the point of knowing when he's being tailed and cunning enough to mostly play it off, as well as still a powerful and capable enough firebender to basically incinerate a large bush from a distance in the rain.He gets tricked into a trap and surrenders, but he's not some frail, dying old man. He's an aged firebender soldier.
>>153586023>except the mother never committed a murderYou need some glasses anon.
>>153586039>revenge is bad because...because it just is OK????
>>153586128I read what you said. You called it a 'plain old murder' as if he didn't commit the crime to begin with. Does the murder just not count anymore after enough time passes?
>>153586174Sorry my badYou need higher education anon
>>153586121good point, it didn't occur to me
>>153586089yepit's called humanity
>>153586150>someone wrongs you>you wrong them right backThen what?
>>15358618610/10 question dodge.
>>153586223ok, batman
>>153586229>Then what?Then nothing. Then it's even. And it would be over. Especially since in the context of Katara he'd be dead if she went through with it. I could be wrong but last I checked zombies don't exist in the Avatar universe so I don't think she'd have anyone coming after her.
>>153586223>killing another thinking, feeling human being is a-ok because there's been billions of other humans killing each other for thousands of years now>???????????>profit!
>>153583789>>153583834Did she kill those other soldiers though?
>>153586229then you feel a lot better and in peacehave you ever executed revenge before? it feels fucking awesomeand I'm not even mentioning the sometimes devastating effects of repressing the need for revenge
the guy was obviously a dishonorably discharged general who hated his mother for being a humiliated loserhe can live the rest of his pathetic life being a failure farmer with a shit patch of land
And where does Iroh fit into all this?
>>153586283>I've KILLED>I've TASTED BLOOD>I've felt the unabashed ECSTASY OF DEATH ITSELF>so im going to post about it anonymously on a analog Rhodesian quilting forum in a thread for a literal children's cartoon program
>>153585926Go take revenge on a member of any criminal organization and see how good it is for you.
>>153586323>getting revenge on the mob is dangerous, better let them ruin countries foreverSomeone has to sacrifice their life to fight organized crime or they can never be dismantled.
>>153586289>he can live the rest of his pathetic life being a failure farmer with a shit patch of landwhich he clearly prefers over being dead since seemingly the thought of sudokuing has never crossed his mind AND he also begs for his lifeactually not even just that, it almost seems like if his mom died he'd actually be quite happy
>>153586300>whataboutism This thread isn't about Iroh. If you wanna make a thread about his faults nobody is stopping you.
>>153586319I don't know why you keep saying the only revenge that exists is murder.
>>153586373I'm just expanding the discussion
>>153583789You don't get it.Weakness would be giving into your emotions and seeking revenge.Self-control in the heat of rage is hard. That's true strength.
>>153586391My proffered method is breaking into their house and shitting in their toilet tank.
>>153586363>which he clearly prefers over being deadyes, living things like being alive
>>153586300>prince zuko, I can't kill my brother because brother on brother murder for the throne would look bad in the history books>so what should we do, uncle?>you gotta kill azula and take her throne
Three generations raised on all these cartoons preaching against revenge and yet we live in a society where you have your life ruined over shit you said (SAID) 10 years ago.Truly makes your jog nog don't it?
>>153586355Welp, go get 'em champ. We believe in you!
>>153586416tell it to those guys in that japan forestheh, actually isn't the fire nation based on japan? I wonder if they have one of their own
>>153586437>you have your life ruined over shit you said (SAID) 10 years ago.Hm. Didn't realize murdering someone's mom is 'just saying something'. Learn something new every day.
>>153586437>anon, you walked into the largest Protestant church in Atlanta and screamed NIGGERS as loud as was physically possible for you.....
>>153586121Depends on how much of a fire nation sympathizer (or a bitch) the wife is. If he has kids, she wouldn't want to put them in the same situation she's lived.And when you ask "nice life", you don't mean reformed and completely different from who he was as a soldier, right? If you do, following cartoon logic, she would realize it be better to keep him alive so he can ammend the damage he has done, while threatening to come back to finish the job if he doesn't. If you didn't mean all that, she would come to some realization that he's no longer the man she hated, and that taking his life would turn her into a monster.
>>153586438It's ridiculous and childish to mock the idea of mafia revenge stories when in real life those people are pure evil and actual real life humans get murdered for standing up to them. Was Chalino Sánchez a stupid poopoo imbecile? Is any cop who dies from fighting organized crime a bad person who should have read more Superman comics to learn reacting is not the way?Retard.
>>153586441good thing we're not talking about Japan in an Avatar threadare mentally ill?
>>153586457Yes. People whine about theoretical fictional revenge for murder but they can't practice what they preach in real life over something as easy to forgive as random jokes. It's hypocrisy.
>>153586229Then the debt is paid.
>>153586229then we have make up sex
>>153586251I mean, there are vengeful spirits, sure she has the avatar, but still a pain in the ass before its fixed
>>153583789No.It would have been easy to kill her mother's murderer and avenge her, but she didn't need to kill him to move on after seeing what a pathetic loser he became. Having the restraint to not act out on emotion shows a strong mind and will. Killing him would only weaken her character.
>>153586355You're talking about fighting crime there. I follow the sentiment, but the situations you and I described are vastly different.
>>153583789Imagine if you will you hate someone they've consumed a huge part of your life. Now you find out life is terrible for them couldn't be worse really now the cosmos have aligned for their suffering to end and you come by and say Nah you get to continue suffering.Its important to be the bigger person its all the better if the people you hate hate you for it.
>>153586564>Its important to be the bigger person its all the better if the people you hate hate you for it.Why?
>>153583789Her AU version would've look like that if she took her revenge and killing her mother's killer in cold blood.
>>153586300>Young lady>The best way to enact revenge on someone is to have sex with their mother>>What if he hates her mom?>Then you have sex with his dad>>153586421>Prince Zuko...
>>153586469Going out of your way to harm/kill someone is not "reacting", dipshit. Its just you being a vengeful, stupid fuck
>>153586441I bet they choose to die in agni kai
>>153586571Because letting them wallow in the misery they put themselves in is a better revenge than ending that misery. Put it this way: if you had a chance to pull Hitler's tortured ass from the fires of Hell, would you reach out and ease his pain or just let him burn?
>>153586571cause your peepee big and their peepee small
>>153583789Saying "wanting revenge is bad" should be grounds for getting your hard drive looked at.
>>153586527Restraint should only exist with a purpose. What good comes out of her restraining herself (which she doesn't btw, she just didnt have the ovaries to go along with it, and she admits it)?
>>153586633YOU WON'T TAKE MY REVENGE PORN AWAYBFOM ME
>>153586633>you're not valid as a human being unless you let the inner animal call all the shots and simply be a eating, fighting, fucking flesh golem hellbent on ensurinf its own pleasure continues for no other reason than it feels goodKind of anathema to the entire point of civilization as we know it, no?
>>153586643Killing him has no point.He's not a threat, he's a weak pathetic nobody, his life is sad.His death wouldn't be worth her revenge because it would be a kindness at this point. Stop thinking like hacks like Robert Kirkman.
>>153586472youre having a hard time following so i'll make it clear"living things like being alive" isn't how it works, people in this thread keep saying that he's "suffering more alive than if he were dead" but clearly the old man doesn't see it that way because if he did he would've neck'd long ago (given your retarded phrase i think you've never heard of suicide before) and even seems like the only thing making him a bit miserable is his bitch of a mom wholl likely pass away soonsaying "she got her revenge by letting him continue living his worthless life!" is pure, unfiltered cope
>>153584532well duh but you cant sell that massage to kids dude
>>153586709Never breed, anon
>>153586693>Killing him has no point.>His death wouldn't be worth her revenge because it would be a kindness at this pointI already deboonked both of these ITT
>>153586725you didnt read the post
>>153586709So because he doesnt want to kill himself, killing him would be the moral thing to do? Is that the takeaway here?
>>153586729Well I ain't searching through each post.So fuck off.
>>153586744Oh I read it, hence my appropriate response. Vasectomy isnt as pricey as you'd think, just fyi
>>153586753dont engage me again then, retard
>>153586760so you just couldn't come up with an argument as to why I'm wrong, that's even worse
>>153583789Perhaps you are right and it was weakness. But this was not a matter of strength or weakness, as it would be if it were Zuko, or Sokka, or Haka, or even Toph in her place. Katara is a fundamentally good person and even if she has a bit of a darker edge to her sometimes it remains that at her heart she is kind and compassionate. Slaying a defenseless old man who no longer poses a threat to anyone and is pleading for his life is something that is anathematic to her very nature. She chose to keep her soul, to not let rage overcome that compassionate part of her, and that is admirable.
>>153586709>"living things like being alive" isn't how it worksYou're either trolling, an idiot, or both. Either way heres your (you), good luck and god bless, you dumb, dumb man
>>153583789>When she was young someone burned her mother to death, which is one of the most horrifying and painful ways to go along with being eaten alive>Years pass>She finds the killer and confronts him>But lets him go, a mix of pity, anger, fear and disgust, but she admits she just didn't have the courage to do itIn a meta sense, of course she's not going to go through with itIn universe, i don't think anyone can judge her if she didn't want to go through with it, i don't think it wasn't something so extreme like she "Turned the other cheek" or whatever the fuck anons here are moralfagging about, i think she doesn't really have the stomach to kill someone when it's not the heat of the moment, and that fine, not everyone has what it takes in themIt was her business and that's how she wanted to end it, that's it, by the same token i wouldn't judge Sokka if he decapitated the guy on the same day when no one was looking
It was a children cartoon, they was no way she would ever kill him, there is no universe where she kills him. Why are you asking such a question when you already know the answer?
>>153583789A lot of fags and mentally stunted adults are here, trying to explain away that it's actually super deep and you just didn't get it. Whilst completely forgetting that avatar was a children's cartoon. Of course they're are not going to show one of the main characters kill a man in cold blood. the midwit crisis is real
>>153584388Darko actually sometimes ends up accidentally killing himself by running into a car or drowning himself when running away thus triggering Niko's conversation with Roman out of nowhere after killing him even if you end up sparing the junkie lol
>>153588522Of course it's a cartoon. In that same way they writers can write it however they want. If they want him to explode or fall off a cliff in the middle of a battle, they can, ATLA killed plenty of enemies in that way. They killed Combustion Man and didn't bat an eye for it.It's a deliberate choice for her character to have sparing him be the option she chooses, and can be discussed. She herself admits killing her enemies just isn't in her, while Zuko wanted her to, which shows the difference between them in their partner-up ep.
Can anyone explain why bryke didnt go for the easy katara zuko ship?It was right there, it was easy money.
>>153583789She should have let him live but break his arms and legs first so he doesn't get away completely and he has to feel pain the rest of his life
>>153589258>while Zuko wanted her tofriendly reminder that at no point in the show did zuko specifically advocate for her to kill him. Zuko didn't even kill Ozai when he very well could have. He even tried to rescue Zhao from a certain death he very much deserved after attempting to kill Zuko before the autist chose it over humility. People rightfully dog on Aang because of the turtle deus ex but if i'm being objective, none of the gang truly had the stomach to kill, even with Zuko who had some Sozin in him.
>>153589383This or something along those lines would have been fair to me.
>>153587180It’s really solely about Katara’s character development, which is part of the point of Zuko tagging along just to watch. She makes a choice about what kind of person she is going to be in this moment. She learned bloodbending from Hama, she imagines indulging power for vengeance can be addictive. She lost Jet to vengeance twice, the second time it was a means to use him as a weapon. Meanwhile she’s on the same team as Zuko now, proof that anyone can let go of power and find honor in helping others. Katara also knows the weight of responsibility on Aang. Katara knows from experience that killing him in cold blood would do nothing but change her, she knows from experience that the satisfaction of revenge wouldn’t nourish her spirit in the long run. She considers herself a healer-warrior rather than a powerful person, so she opts for strength of spirit instead of martial strength in The Southern Raiders despite having every reason and ability to do it.
>The moment Katara and Zuko turn around.>The guy presses a button.>His humble house transforms into a mansion filled with sexy slaves from different nations.>"What a good girl, what a good and silly girl"
>>153589687I know it's a joke but this kinda goes back to this point right here >>153586121
>>153583789>>153583834the scene made me sympathise with nonbenders.Like imagine being one of the equalists when literally any bender can just make you get on your knees and grovel or else they'll stab you with a million floating icicles for not obeying them, and there's nothing you can do about it. You're basically living your entire life walking on eggshells hoping to never piss off or offend a bender.
>>153586121Possibly. We werent presented with that situation. Given its a kids show and she is like, what 14 or so? She probably wouldnt have. If we arent restricting by the flavor she could have also axed him when he was away from them or killed them all for no loose ends of we are going max edge. Dont feel like looking through eps but I am fairly certain the Gaang has flat out killed at least some mooks before
>>153586402it wasn't self control, she stopped herself because she doesn't have it in her to kill someone (that isn't a direct menace at least)
>>153583789I mean, she already took out what were basically just guards doing their jobs, but she's stopping short of the one guy who actually did her real harm?It's the sunk cost fallacy; she's already done too much to back down.
>>153590145as a spergy kid it really annoyed me that katara didn't acknowledge that comment, i actually don't even think she heard itit was a sort of out of place cheap "hate me mum" boomer joke that I don't think even the writers put much thought into
>>153583789This whole show is overrated. Shit just happens just because and the characters are all over the place. All the stuff about Aang and the spirit world and the Avatar is blablahblah gobbledygook and why I also got over Adventure Time. Fake deep shit. Iroh and Zuko are goated though, the show should've been all about them.
>>153590257They were trying to get a Zuko and Iroh spinoff greenlit but Nick shot them down. It's why Zuko asked what happened to his Mom in the final ep, that was gonna be the plot
>>153590287You're fucking kidding? That sucks. I would've watched that.
It could have been worse; she could have killed between 100 and 200 people (including pregnant women and animals), just to spare the one person she actually wanted to kill.
>>153590257>>153590287Iroh and Zuko are two best written characters in the series, so it's natural that the hack creators who were responsible for so little of what made them great have been sabtoging these characters ever since. Even if Zutarafags weren't a thing, they would still resent Zuko for stealing the shine from their bald twink self insert.Its also why the movie is so fucking forgettable as Zuko is basically a cameo in it and the focus is more airbender hippy shit
>>153590336>the shart of us 2
>>153590336I always hated that shit.Each of those people had lives, family, friends, lovers a pet or several. Many of them decent people forced to be there or had no choice. Yet the monster responsible for it all deserves a second chance. Thats fucking evil
>>153590287May those Nick execs burn in the deepest hells for the robbery they subjected us to, inshallah.
>>153590360>>153590539Oh thank God other people feel the same way I do. Everyone else just glazes this shit and I don't get. I'm two seasons in and just baffled at a lot of it. Then Iroh and Zuko show up and it's great. Then they disappear and then I groan at the screen again. I'll finish the last season but damn this was disappointing after the hype it was given.
>>153590631i watched that shit when aired and felt this way, it was like watching two different shows. some episodes i still havent' watched in full because of how much of a snooze the aang only portions are.
>>153590663Me and my sister were watching it talking about how it feels like two shows clashing with one another. My main gripe is that the episodes feel very uneven pacing wise and don't always culminate properly. A lot of other shows are better at balancing the A and B plots/act structure. The way Avatar does it is so weird. Most of the bad is with Aang and Katara. And I swear there are episodes where it feels like the characters learned nothing last time and reset, which for a show with as much continuity there is feels very weird.
>>153590734felt like they had two different writing teams. "Team A, you write Team gAang doing magic villain of the week battles.""Team B, you write a grounded Father and Son story about exiled royalty."
>>153586572>Weeaboo sword>In avatar world Can this get anymore cringe?
>>153590765Iroh and Zuko had to move slower or else they'd catch up and be fighting Aang every episode. it's why they usually don't even leave the location they're in for that ep.
>>153590765this is a larger problem with everything in avatar, their were two distinct camps in the writers rooms (bryke and ehasz), and once the former got nick to side with them, the IP has been in freefall ever since.
i wish ty lee had her own series
>>153591188she would just go on a spiritual journey to discover she is of Air Nomadic heritage
>be fapping to ty lee>remember she's Aang with a wig.
>>153590360why do some people say aang is a self-insert? because he's fucking bald? isn't he a monk? fucking retard
>>153589810Honestly, the whole 'bending' is just a superpower that some genetically gifted people get and other dont is so dumb. Bending should have been a body of traditions and skills that some people devote their lives to hone and others dont. Like martial arts.
>>153583834Murdering mooks without mercy only to get second thoughts when about to end the big bad is the worst trope in fiction.
>>153592044the creators literally can't shut up about wanting to be like aang and relating to him you fucking faggot. if you have to ask that then your a newfag who isn't even worth acknowledging
>>153592778one of their justifications for leaving Natla is literally "wanting to be flexible like an airbender". frankly any retard still claiming aang isn't a self insert needs to be mocked endlessly.
>>153586587Tell that to chads like this guy lolhttps://youtu.be/hej6Hhd-HhA?si=CmWDb6rBSBfZsOEf
>>153586675Civilization since the dawn of time has executed criminals and murderers lol what are you on about. Retribution is healthy and social hygiene.
>>153586869Not him but I hope 5 thirsty Indians show up at your front door tonight.
>>153586279Nope
>>153589533Nah I feel like Sokka if he was here would've done it.
>>153583789She never killed anyone in her entire life. Besides, the guy didn't do anything wrong; he was just following orders.
>>153590804>EhaszGiven what he did with the Dragon Prince, I don't think him getting Nick to side with him would have been better for the IP either.
>>153591814Bet you started fapping even harder.
>>153589370It was gonna be Katara and Aang from the beginning.To give you a meta answer, Zuko leaving the Fire Nation is more dramatic given he was also leaving Mai. If he left and then ended up with Katara, it would lose the emphasis on how Zuko had everything he could want, yet abandoned it all to do the right thing
>>153593067There is a difference between retribution by the wounded individual or their loved ones and society decreeing that a criminal face execution delivered by a dispassionate headsman.
>>153590787She’s also an anime villain who loves fighting and draws fights out to enjoy killing her opponents. She is also the Blue Spirit instead of Zuko
Was his death the setting's Nexus event?
>>153590787Kyoshi Warriors had katanas
>>153589370It was never going to happen. They were fully invested in the Katara/Aang finale from the start, but the amount of shipping also turned them against Zuko/Katara eventually.
Was his death the Nexus event?
>>153593307That's false, series bible did not have any confirmed ships at the start of the show. Kataang was literally last minute change
>>153589810Eh, not really that different from the current society. If you were to piss off a woman coworker at your workplace, or a black guy in the street, guess what happens.
Aang gets the girl despite not spending the finale with her and even arguing her before they went different ways. That's how much an asspull it is. Remember Katara recoiled the last time Aang tried to kiss her and they never discussed it again.
>>153593323Bryke themselves were invested in it from the beginning. The other writers opinions didn’t matter, they were just rejected like all of the evil Airbender pitches or whatever
>>153593331>Remember Katara recoiled the last time Aang tried to kiss her and they never discussed it again.it is pretty funny how the romance was such an afterthought no one cared about that. They could have just reworded her dialogue a little to make it clear it’s entirely the massive war they’re fighting but she does seem legitimately not into it
>>153593353Followed by an entire finale of Zuko and Katara being awesome together
>>153593323The creators took it as a given the leads were meant to be together even if the story stayed as hinting crushes, there was no point where they were going to favor Zuko/Katara based on chemistry
a world where Lu Ten lived would be a very different one from the show.
