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>>153585645

I went to the coffee cat comics store on free comic book day! https://www.coffeecatcomics.com/

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>>153585645
Been in a artistic block ever since I published a chapter a year and a half ago right after my grandma died after degrading from cancer months ago.
I keep making pages but not finishing them.

>>153588213
>months ago.
For months

>>153588213
my condolences
you should adopt a new grandma theyre free at the retirement homes

>>153585645
who knows? but it will be missed

>>153588213
Condolences, anon, that's rough. I don't have much of a suggestion to help other than sometimes you just have to force through that block. It's really hard after a loss to find that groove again, the depression makes it hard to finish shit, but it does get better if you can manage to eke something out. I had to ship some pages I really didn't like after one of my family members died too, and that death wasn't an expected one so it hit really damn hard.

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Anyway I fooled around with my comic title.

>>153588213
My condolences, anon. Keep going but take it as slow as you have to- I'm sure your grandma wouldn't want you burning out.

So, do we treat this as an official thread or...?

what is considered a webcomic? what are the bare minimum conditions it must meet?

>>153591005
Go for it.

>>153591033
Google is your friend.

>>153585645
The current https://tapas.io/episode/3857060
The reordered rerelease https://bunnyseries.the-comic.org/
Working on summer novelty material.
And a slightly different comic.

What's Swords Guy up to these days?

>>153591613
not helping I'm asking what is the standard here

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>>153592106
hes still making comics. doing better than any of us clowns right?

>>153585645
Does anyone actually make anything (good) here? I feel like /hyw/ has been utterly gutted out, same with 4chan.
>PS: Long time faggot lurker

>>153593158
The only ones who do never update consistently

>>153592246
are you waiting for permission? Just post whatever you're working on

>>153593236
no, not permission, not a comic maker, just casual lurker
only now the question comes to me, does it have to be published in some website like webcomics or whatever to count as a webcomic? does it have to be serialized or one-offs count too?
cause I haven't seen examples of it here

>>153593158
not a great place for discussion so many artist surely rather not show it
dunno about visibility either

>>153585645
Dead, courtesy of Betz aka Jake.

>>153593621
How did it happen!?

>>153593694
Immeasurable, insistent, and persistent faggotry. That's really saying something, too. The amount of faggotry that occurs in generals is profound, and yet they continue. Sure, they have their ups and downs in participation, but to completely and utterly eviscerate one with your sociopathic faggotry alone is truly something.

Honestly, the better question is what didn't happen? He's done it all. It was really faggoty from the start, he was just soo eager to be involved. The red flags were there at that start but no one listened.

There's his actual comic itself, of course, which was another huge red flag. The obsession with a character he dreamed up in elementary school and the delusion that it would one day be the next Sonic the Hedgehog was too obvious, but still no one listened. He rebooted it again and again and again and again and again and again and again, and still, no one listened. He paid "guest artists" in the community for one of these reboots, but nobody could stand to work with him for long, and it became apparent that he was more interested in getting their real names and addresses than anything else, so they would never speak out against his faggotry.

Then there was the /hyw/ events. That's where the sociopathy became really apparent. He insisted on being a major part of the first one, and what a mistake it was to allow that. He framed the collaboration as taking place in his comic's universe so he could have maximum control and try to leverage the readerships of other creators into readers of his own. His involvement in the community was always manipulative and for his own personal gain, not any genuine interest in others, because that's not something he's capable of experiencing. Another event followed that he wasn't allowed to participate in, owing to what an insufferable cunt he was the first time, and so he organized his own simultaneous event to compete with it to draw people away and create his own sphere of influence.

>>153593694
That trend would be mirrored on discord. There had been two major servers for the community for some time, and he tried to fit into both. Of course, he couldn't not be a humongous faggot, and he was quickly removed. This lead to him creating his own server, again to draw people away from the servers that scorned him as well as create his own sphere of influence. He created several over the years, and even had several at time, pretending to hand them over to other accounts that he quietly controlled after his faggotry lead to popular uprisings within them. Eventually they all fell apart, and he retreated to servers for his other hobbies and ambitions.

Naturally, this samefagging wasn't limited to discord. There has never been a more prolific samefag in /hyw/ than Betz. He would frequently anonymously post to defend himself when it was apparent that no one besides him would. He even began developing numerous alter egos that he put on for a time. Each time, he would inevitably get caught being a huge faggot because he's not nearly so smart as his malignant narcissism leads him to believe. He would deny it for days or weeks, as long as he could, until concrete evidence emerged or until he couldn't stand that he wasn't getting personal credit. Among the most notable:

There was "seetheanon", which was critical of the community itself. He eventually admitted to that one, but still claimed to be the original when in fact he was only ever a copycat.

There was "Alex". This was a hypercritical, douchy personality that shat on everyone's artwork, probably because he felt snubbed himself. He eventually got himself caught by "taking over" the art criticism website that "Alex" allegedly started.

>>153593694
Then there was "ApocalypseAnon". This one was an attempt to start a new comic without his personal name attached, probably because his persecution complex lead him to believe he was being sabotaged by the community, which in turn was because his malignant narcissism wouldn't allow him to consider the reality that comics were just dogshit. He even hired an artist in secret to avoid his art being associated with it. That didn't last long though as old posts revealed he was the writer. He still tried to deny it for some time after before finally coming clean. I'm certain that despite being a critical failure he still hasn't realized that he is the problem, not his name, not his art, and not the community.

This is hardly an exhaustive list, there have been others, but you get the point.

Neither was the website incident isolated. He tried for a time to create a centralized web presence for hosting /hyw/ comics, of course under his control. That went exactly like everything else he's ever done, right down the shitter.

Then there's the gore posting and other such tantrums, kind of related to the samefagging problem. After a while, he pretended to not come to the threads anymore, but like everything that comes out of his mouth, that too was a lie. Anytime his name was mentioned, a totally "anonymous" defender of his honor tht totally wasn't him would pop up and have a melty. For a little while, this would end in spamming gore to empty the thread. The totally not Betz white knighting continued long after that, however.

He gave up the pretense of not being in the threads for a while, and any post that was critical of him in anyway would end up getting deleted and result in a ban. It clearly wasn't just him abusing the reporting feature, he had someone on the inside, and that's probably the only reason he dated to come back to begin with. That went on for a while.

>>153593694
Then there was the case of "Renata", a defining moment in the destruction of /hyw/. Renata was a relatively successful newcomer on /hyw/ that began to attract a following. Betz was jealous to no end, that was supposed to be him and his childhood imaginary friend. For months and months, he trolled the shit out of the writer, denying his participation as he went, futile as that was. This eventually culminated in an event that intruder into the writer's personal life, when a SWAT team showed up at his house on New Years morning. Betz immediately denied any involvement in the swatting and still does to this day. He admitted to heavily trolling him in the aftermath, and all the pieces pointed to him. He was obsessively jealous, he regularly sought users' personal information in the past, and he's even used discord exploits to gain users credentials and personal info. I'm not aware that it was ever proven, so I won't say for sure he did it, but it would certainly fit a pattern of increasingly deranged behavior that he had become infamous for.

Betz has gone back to pretending he doesn't come here anymore, and he has little reason to at this point, because he's ran off almost everyone that was left for him to exploit. But that's as much a farce this time as it was the last time, because his real work, his real motivation, is not yet complete. These threads still exist, and after the way they treated him, rightfully so for his absolutely insane behavior, his narcissism will not allow them to continue.

Enter "Jake".

>>153593694
"Jake" is a namefag that recently began appearing, particularly in creative threads on /co/, particularly /hyw/, even though "Jake" does not draw, write, or have a webcomic, a common trait of Betz' many alter egos over the years. Instead "Jake" said he was called by God Himself to come here and encourage creators. His posts are frequently religious, often criticizing even the mildest suggestion of any kind of sexuality, which frequently expanded into derailing threads with his religious bullshit. Though he pretended to be supportive and encouraging, regulars quickly became weary and eventually exhausted of his behavior, not just on /hyw/ but in other generals as well. When anyone disagreed with him, criticized him, or rightfully told him to fuck off, he would announce his reports of their posts and follow through, getting many banned without just cause, another trademark of Betz'. Of course, he insisted he wasn't Betz, and Betz insisted he wasn't "Jake", with Betz going so far as to post a discord screenshot of a conversation between them, as if that were some kind of evidence given Betz' frequent same gagging and known multiple discord accounts. This was also "evidence" Betz had used in the past to try to convince people he wasn't his other alter egos.

"Jake" continued to deny it, as Betz does, insisting it was his real name. Most strangely though, "Jake's" tripcode has been in use for more than a decade on various boards and with as many different names attached, often personal ones. In more recent posts on other boards, "Jake" appears as a completely different character, frequently exhibiting the exact behaviors that he railed against in /hyw/ and on /co/, like vulgarity and sexual content.

>>153593694
It's clear that "Jake" then is nothing more than a character. And his motivation all allng was nothing more than derailing these threads. He would show up or make the threads himself (as Betz loved to do) and all of the regulars would let the thread die, with only ignorant newfags replying to his feigned positivity and religious ramblings. He would leave for a while to see if the threads would stay dead, and when they popped back up, he would make self-aware posts about how he was killing it on purpose. He's stopped posting here recently, probably because his mission is complete. Nobody posts here anymore. While Betz has yet to claim responsibility there is absolutely zero reason to believe "Jake" is anyone but him.

*I forgot to mention that Betz' family is devoutly Christian and he even went to a religious school for some time, just another factor linking them together.

This history is hardly exhaustive, but it covers the broad strokes of the Betz Saga of /hyw/, perhaps it's final saga, which has spanned the better part of a decade at this point.

Betz has settled down and has a family now, and he seems to have become less active. He no doubt continues to monitor the threads however. He's rebooted his comic about his childhood self-insert Thundercats ripoff imaginary friend yet again, refusing to give up his obsession. There's no reason to think he would give up on his others, like destroying /hyw/. It seems the only way to be free is to operate in spaces that he can prevented from accessing, and so /hyw/ continues on in some semblance of spirit there. His comic will never be a success, and he will never be famous, but hey, at least he destroyed How's Your Webcomic? by being the biggest sociopathic, narcissistic piece of shit it has ever seen, right?

>>153595172
how long ago did he stop?

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>>153594791
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>>153595172

Yeah I was a fag for the longest time here. I've since moved onto greener pastures and I've given up on webcomics. There's other things to do with my life. About half the above story is right but I really don't care to go through it so if that's the lasting /hyw/ legacy of the "Betz saga" or whatever so be it. Me coming back here is the equivilent of that guy who peaked in highschool and keeps coming to the football games. "Yeah remember when I threw that touchdown?" And yeah I tried to continue Terriful earlier this year but man I just don't have time anymore.

I'll leave you with this. Sure I was a problem but the people who keep bringing it up and the people that keep talking about it and continuing drama are the reason /hyw/ is dead. Don't believe me? Scroll up, there's 5 character limit replies talking about drama. Food for thought.

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I was going to post my comic But the thread is getting weird and schizoey

>>153593306
I think as long as you're making a comic, of any kind, and putting it on the internet it counts as a webcomic

>>153594791
Thanks chatgpt

>>153595013
>Then there was the case of "Renata", a defining moment in the destruction of /hyw/. Renata was a relatively successful newcomer on /hyw/ that began to attract a following.
This is how I know you're a newfag. The writer wasn't called Renata, that was the name of his OC and the title character of the comic he wrote. You weren't there for any of this, you're just a zoomer desperate to discover the next Chris- Chan. Congrats, you're the perfect audience for a faggot like Betz.

>>153595735
He didn't.

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>>153596147
>I've given up on webcomics.
Same for me for the most part as well. I'm stilling living off of the nostalgic fumes from when webcomics were a big thing online.
I personally mainly departed around the time dewd and coldfusion left a long time ago, seeing the writing on the wall early. Then anons just kept running newfags and drawfags off and that was further writing on the wall.
Hell I remember pre-2016, they had webcomic tourists coming here under the impression of getting harsh critiques, only to find drama and autism. Hell, I remember Morbi used to pop into /co/ and I think /hyw/ maybe once, along with others.
I only really come back once in a fortnight to see what is going on and read the drama, and it just seems like drama and no art or webcomics.
Whatever happened to the swedish/viking/norweign comic with the two women who were vikings or something.
Same with the frog knight comic and Chaos in the Tropics.
Shame, because there have been some really skilled artists and creators here once.

>>153597991
yeah the story feels half lie half confession, the "he stopped posting" bit caught my eye (both messages)

What process do you use when making your comic?

>>153599001
I do this handy thing where I start thinking about making a comic, and then I sit down, take a deep breath, drink some water, and go to bed.

>>153599062
LoL
>>153599001
I get an idea, I study the paper to figure out how to make it. Panel structure, character positions, pov. Then draft a bunch, change things as I see fit, and then remember I'm working on paper and not digital so I fucked the paper too much and I'm pressing the pencil too hard and oh god what did I do? Now I have to start on a new page.

>>153599607
Lmao.

I've got outlines written out for the first three chapters, chapter four is in the brainstorming phase. It's a little slow because I'm not much of a writer, I'm a visual artist, I don't find writing that fun, it's just the means to an end that has to get done before I can get to the actually fun part. But I don't trust any of my writer friends to pass that duty to them because my closest writer friends aren't necessarily incompetent, but one of them in particular I swear goes out of his way to only give feedback that would make whatever I'm working on the exact polar opposite of whatever it's supposed to be. When I finished my outline for chapter three, I sent it to him, in it there's a talking head scene giving exposition, something I usually try to avoid because I hate talking head scenes with all my hate, but unfortunately they're sometimes unavoidable, sometimes your main character needs information to move on and there's not much you can do to give it to them besides just have another character say it, in this case I made a point to have the talking head scene raise a few questions for the audience to speculate on and set up an action scene right after to make up for it, and I shit you not his suggestion was to replace the talking head scene with basically the SAME talking head scene but without the part that sets up the action scene, his idea of improving this SUPERHERO story was to remove the ACTION. That's why I'm doing all the writing myself even if it's slow-going, because I'm not going for anything overly complex or cerebral yet I still don't trust anyone but myself to get it right

(153599898) in binary
Who is this girl insisting Ace is royalty in a distant asian island nation? Because I promised, miss Justice, does the make you upset or soemthin?

>>153599898
can you imagine, whenever a character asks another about something, and everytime they are told "just google it"

>>153600135
Yeah, that would just be going from one extreme to the other. Obviously exposition is necessary, what I meant was that I prefer whenever possible to have exposition done through stuff happening rather than it just being done with talking, particularly in a comic or a movie as they're visual mediums

>>153600272
strange thing is that whenever I see exposition done by a character, it's always just one talking, they aren't exchanging knowledge or correcting facts. if it happens it's so rare I dont notice it

another idea Im having which in practice sounds annoying, when they about to tell you the lore it cuts to a flashback of those events, no narrator.

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I have been practicing my drawings for a while and I'd like to know how am I doing with these kids when it comes to design and setting for a series of dark humor comic strips.

Premise with these kids is that each of them have all sort of horrid parents (except Klaus and Lyman).

Lyman is a better-than-you rich kid who points out how idiotic/uncultured someone is, he even does it with the teacher, however, he has a huge beef with Klaus.

Lyman gaslighted everyone including Klaus himself that Klaus is the poorest boy in town (ubewknownst that Klaus's parents are far richer than his). Lyman is so classist that he won't miss a chance to belittle Klaus and treat him like a human garbage (Klaus never takes it seriously, and every insult slips off his mind)

No one likes Lyman, so in the first day of class, no one wanted to sit next to him. However, Klaus arrived last, and even though he had no issues sitting next to Lyman. Lyman got so pissed at the idea that he threw the ultimate tantrum: talking trash about Klaus, his family, how much of a piece of shit he is, and demanding to not be put next to him.

Lyman's tantrum only make everyone hate him more, but also, everyone felt some pity for Klaus's situation. Lyman insulted him so bad that every kid thought he got the worst life of the class, and so, each day, some kid at random will offer to sit next to Lyman (just for a day before snapping at him) just to have Klaus away from him.

Klaus then will get closer to a new kid each day, getting to know them better, but also meet the horrid parenthood each kid goes through, he never interferes directly, but he always end up triggering a domino effect that would get each kid to start rebeling.

Parents hate Klaus's family (mostly his mom), so they see him as a pest they want to keep away from their children. They always refer to him as "the rich brat" when badmouthing him to the teacher, to who she believes that such rich brat = "Lyman".

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Hello hyw.

I can finally post new cosmic crush pages
https://m.tapas.io/episode/3870660

>>153595172
Why couldn't you guys just ignore and stop relying to him?
From the perspective of a more casual poster in the threads; the backlash against him seemed to derail threads a lot more than his actual posts. It was pretty annoying. Just people non-stop bickering about one or two people.

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Penny Perez loves coffee cat

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>>153600447
He knew how to trigger people. The best answer and only way to win was not to play.
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>>153600326
That's how I prefer to do it, because it's showing instead of just telling

Coffee cat is not funny

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>>153600470
That's all folks
https://m.webtoons.com/en/canvas/cosmic-crush/4/viewer?title_no=937034&episode_no=4

>>153600461
Didn't you do some comics for him back in the day? What was it like? Is anons story true?

>>153600414
Penny, Betty, Mimi look ready to bend my spine backwards

>>153600505
I misread the posts I thought you were talking about Jake. If you mean Betz, I drew some 4-panel Terriful comics for him, he always paid on time, provided clear scripts and let me be creative with it. No complaints.

>>153600461
>The best answer is not playing
Yup
>>153600447
It just so happens a loud group of people are easily triggered and/or just want to fight. It doesn't have to be him specifically, they will start shit over anything.
Also, there's a third option: it's one person answering to themselves. What they call schizoposting is just someone wanting to start shit and derail by acting like it's a bunch of other people attacking them or each other.

>>153600614
>he said with a gun to the back of his head

>>153600447
>Why couldn't you guys just ignore and stop relying to him
Because the people who constantly bitch and moan about Betz ~5~ years on are on the same level of faggotry as Betz himself. It's faggots all the way down

>>153600447
The problem as I've observed is there isn't really any winning move you could do as a regular poster. Don't reply? Thread gets spammed with him trying to shift attention solely onto him. You'd get one other person attempting to share something while he'd dump a bunch of images and keep on blabbering. It's hard not to be put off when one autist completely buries everyone else's posts. Call him out? He doubles down by samefagging and pretending that "actually the people who are annoyed by me are the real problem!" rather than him being an insufferable cunt. You can't really shame someone who takes pride in shitting in a shared public space.

>>153600558
Well, Penny is seen as a atrociously ugly girl by her parents, and they called Penelope “Penny” because she’s not worth a dime to them. She was born with a bit of albinism so according to her mother she has “witch hair” they have to dye, and a lanky “malformed” body because she suffers from an early puberty at the age of 6.
As for her personality, she comes out as a moody girl who is easy to make mad, and even though her parents trash her, they are her only source of ego just for being the daughter of a prestigious artist and a fashion designer, and thus she feels she has their talent in her genes.
No one likes her designs/art, her parents are her biggest haters, yet, she only lashes out at the smaller kids she can beat.

As for Mimi, she does dress inappropriately with rubber clothing from her mom, and parents side eye her mom for that (Mimi only wants to dress like a princess). That thing on her head is a nipple tassel she took from her mom’s drawer “she has two, she won’t mind if I take one”.
Mimi is a self absorbed girl thanks to her mother shoving her away so she can get with a man to mooch money off. Mimi’s mom raise her with the idea of: “you are a queen, get anything you want and don’t let anyone stop you”.
Thing is that Mimi’s mom lost custody of her daughter, but still spiteful against her ex, she kidnapped her and moved out. She doesn’t really care about Mimi, and expects to dispose of her as soon as she finds a new man, but if her ex ever retrieves Mimi, she wants him to have her as ruined as possible.

There’s not much to say about Betty in that matter, her mom is the breadwinner CEO and a domestic abuser to her husband she belittles and even calls him a faggot once in a while. Betty dresses like a traditional Mexican dress just because her dad and her thought it looked pretty, but because of it, adults think she’s indigenous and often belittle her for that despite being the voice of reason of the classroom.

>>153600847
>actually the people who are annoyed by me are the real problem!" rather than him being an insufferable cunt.
Both can be true. He can be a cunt and you are just as much a faggot for talking about him 5 years later.

Replace "Betz" with any other name and you get the same results. This was the inevitable end of the community and just because the main fag had a name he takes 100% of the blame. Speak nothing of Fred and his "contributions". I personally blame the culture of the discord that drove the community for years and encouraged people to fuck around with people like Betz for a cheap laugh. What did that get them?

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I just got a new tablet so I couldn’t update my webcomics before.

>>153601008
she so happy for summoning blu eyez wait dragun

>>153600934
Kind of odd you're assuming I'm talking about something from 5 years ago instead of activity in recent threads within the last few months. Go ahead and try to get the last word in.

>>153600414
>>153600882
Just read both. I'm fascinated.
Klaus might give me some Steven Universe vibes depending on how he's managed. And Judy ressembles Helga from Arnold.

>>153601282
I mean I wasn't the one ousted as a newfag as shown here >>153597700 but I'll humor you. What happened a few months ago?

>>153601329
Thank, I appreciate it.

As for Klaus, his relationship with his classmates is more akin to a Clarence vibe. He’s just oblivious to all the hate he receives from the other parents, and he is more spiteful to the physical harm and annoyance from his siblings to care about Lyman. He’s just trying to hang out and unexpectedly brings joy to the others, but also, sometimes he causes the children to lash out against their abuse which is why parents consider him a “rotten apple”.

As for Judy, she is one of my favorites. Her personality seems cold and reserved, but she’s pretty cool with the boys. Her mother is her biggest burden. Judy’s mom has the need to be on top because that’s the only way she feels she is doing things right, thus, she gets Judy to follow her path: being best of the class, and all that, which Judy doesn’t really care. If anything, Judy loves the school time just because it means to stay away from her mom who keeps pushing her to do what’s best, this including being Willy’s partner, a guy who is too much of a wuss but who is also the most educated boy around. Judy doesn’t mind Willy, but sometimes she feels she is more of a babysitter to him than a friend.
Judy enjoys being more with boys than girls, she even was a daddy’s girl until one morning she found her dad dead after a suicide.
Judy’s mom was just as traumatized, yet, she tries to hide the fact like it never happened: “he’s just gone”, that’s all. But as for Judy, she sometimes feels her mom is to blame, because when she thinks further, she cries at the thought her dad killed himself because of she wasn’t good enough.

Judy’s mom isn’t that well liked among the PTA, always trying to be better, but after her spouse’s suicide, she still tries to pretend nothing went wrong and latches on Judy’s superiority as some prestigious poster to cover the cracked wall that her life has become.

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I want to draw more Dana comics but don't know what to make them about.

>>153603141
Make them about her having sex with me

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>>153600503
Nice to see your finished pages, this was really cute. So not a cultural exchange, not domination. Wonder why he's there then...

Artwise I'm curious, are you inspired by Toriyama? Zag's design particularly reminds me a little of the Kai in DBS.

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>>153603336
Yeah I love Toriyama, dragon ball and sailor moon were my first animes as a young noob. Zag's earrings are inspired exactly by Kais in dragonball and Chrollo Lucilfer. His design is also inspired by the Shitennou from the first arc of Sailor Moon. His hair is Anakin Skywalker. His design overall is basically a conglomeration of chads.
>So not a cultural exchange, not domination. Wonder why he's there then...

How do you know if this guy is even telling the truth?

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>>153600470
I like it, great job on the art.

>>153603444
>styles
Really cool, and he does come off as attractive so I'd say you're successful with all those chad influences.

>How do you know if this guy is even telling the truth?
Well I figured it might have been probing lmao

>>153585645
I've done the writing for two full books, have a fully fleshed out magic system that stemmed from the world building and premise, so it's grounded and highly functional, but I have 0 artistic abilities amd no inclination to learn from square 1, so if I don't find an artist to illustrate it, it'll remain a novel forever. Good reviews from those who've read the narrative, at least.

>>153603141
Give her a reason to travel from place to place. Make them sexy too.

>>153603631
Try Artstation you can find people on there who draw comics and graphic novels for a living. One might like your premise and help you realize it, but you'll probably have to start by commissioning some concept art first so they can get a feel fod the direction you have in mind and decide if it's something they're in to.

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Just in time because this wed is going to be a double update.

>>153604659
Looks interesting.

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>decide to make an action comic for my first one-shot
>75% of the pages are fight scenes

>>153596147
>Me coming back here is the equivilent of that guy who peaked in highschool and keeps coming to the football games. "Yeah remember when I threw that touchdown?"
You peaked at 9 years old and you never threw a touchdown.

>>153604659
Hell yeah, can't wait.

>>153605992
That's a lot of action, anon. Did you have fun drawing all that?

>>153606137
>That's a lot of action, anon. Did you have fun drawing all that?
Yes, my favorite thing to illustrate is combat and complex poses, but I don't know how to make dialogue scenes interesting

>>153606137
he doesn't know the action was hard to follow

>>153606237
curious, do you overexplain the action sequences?

>>153606275
I rarely use dialogue or descriptions for fight scenes

>>153606301
oh, would like to give it a read then, i'm interested in seeing how artists handle fight scenes with no description

>>153606237
Shifting the camera around to focus on the expressions or body language can help make dialogue not feel as static or dull. Fullbody in panel with the camera panned out for example.

>>153606329
I'm not finished with it but I definitely will post it here when I do
But if you want reference material for that sort of thing, you should read action manga, specifically stuff from the 80's like Fist of the North Star, Violence Jack, and Riki-oh

>>153606237
Sometimes fists do the talking for us, others there's no need for words. My favorite examples are Genndy's action shows and western movies (for as little as I have watched). Some more specific are 60 minutes and Street Fighter 2 animated movie. The fights are direct to the point, and the dialogue is to convey feelings you can't express with your body alone.
Ok, I suppose american action movies do it, but... sincerely don't like how their action scenes in general.
Care for an example of what I mean?

>>153606347
andremember t focus alot in the women ass

>>153606359
I tried watching Fist of the North Star, didn't like it. I watched some fight scenes, and outside of the goofyness of Kenshiro's ability, don't like it.

>>153606386
I'm a Hong Kong action movie junkie so I can appreciate how fighting can flow into drama and vice versa, but I'm still interested in your examples

How would you write dialog between close friends?

>>153596147
>Me coming back here is the equivilent of that guy who peaked in highschool and keeps coming to the football games. "Yeah remember when I threw that touchdown?"
Terriful was in no way a touchdown, big dawg.

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>hyw
I'm about 5 updates out from hitting the 500 milestone, pretty jazzed about it.

>my comic: https://topsidetales.the-comic.org/
>comic from hyw I read recently: https://tapas.io/episode/3240437

>The Coolest Kid in Town
I've seen this comic around but haven't actually read it until recently and I'm glad I did. The comic's humor is quick and doesn't rely on being crass for a cheap laugh, instead it plays with your expectations and either validates it in the most blunt manner possible or jerks in a direction you don't expect.

Chad's unabashed dedication to being cool comes off endearing than cringy especially when you see how it inspires other characters from his example.

>>153606500
Ryu vs Feilong
Feilong goes to an underground fight ring, where he finds Ryu, who is dragged into the arena despite his protests. Big guy with him. Feilong comments it will be interesting, his companion responds, "Despite being a big star, you still like coming to these places".

Feilong adds, "He's strong". The companion's expression changes to one of concern and stares back at the ring.

Ryu is grabbed by his clothes' neck and shaken in an attempt to be intimidated, but with a serious expression in his eyes, dead centered on his opponent, he steps forward, caving his nose in with a single headbutt, knocking the big guy cold on the ground.

Not a moment passes when Feilong calls out to him, praising his strength, jumping into the ring. "I'll be your opponent", he announces as if already starting the fight.

He asks for this magnificent individual to reveal his identity, "My name is Ryu", he tells him in a stern, but soft voice, "I'm a japanese traveler. I don't wish to fight", speaks the traveler, while keeping a relaxed stance, trying to get the message to the challenger.

The star disregards the man's intentions, declaring he will push forward with the battle by brushing his thumb across the nose and assuming a fighting stance. Seeing the imminent conflict, Ryu adopts his.

(The rest of the scene is them fighting each other. No words spoken by either, their battle cries, groans, and Bruce Lee screams drowned by the cheers of the public)

(I went overboard with this) (1/2)

>>153607257
Feilong throws a kick at Ryu, which he stops by clashing his knee and elbow on the attacker's ankle. Swiftly, Ryu uses this window of vulnerability to grab his opponents arm, dropping him by twisting it above his head and behind his back in a locking motion. When Feilong hits the ground, his shoulder audibly pops in the room.

Ryu steps back as Feilong reincorporates with a backroll. The star is heavily winded, limping, one arm unresponsive, barely lifting his other one to keep distance. Ryu upon seeing his opponent in no condition to keep this up, drops his guard.

Feilong won't accept this, he shall take no pity from anyone, specially not from a formidable foe, there's more than his life in line with this fight. The only way to end this satisfyingly is by going ALL OUT. Thus, he warns his rival, "I'm not done yet!" he screams, "I'll show my special technique, now prepare yourself". Those words carry his wishes for an honorable ending to this encounter, and they are reciprocated, by Ryu putting his guard up.

Feilong smirks, does a frontroll and jumps back up while spinning in Ryu's direction, his leg catching up in flames, "Shinkyoku", he yells as he lands a clean hit on Ryu, sending him to the ground, flat on his back.

But while he's descending from his ascending kick, Ryu recomposses. He times the moment Feilong lands to launch a kick from the ground that hits him directly in his face. Ryu jumps with one leg as he reincorporates and delivers a series of flying spinning kicks, while vigurously saying, "Tsumaki Senpukyaku". Each kick enters clean in the face, violently shaking his head, almost as if his neck were to snap. The assault stops once the famous star falls like a sack of bricks to the ground, motionless.

>>153607432
I messed up, I just wanted to explain why and how their dialogue works, but ended up inspired to write it in book format. I hope it still helps.

I could give other examples, but definitely not like that.

>>153594959
>Then there was "ApocalypseAnon". This one was an attempt to start a new comic without his personal name attached, probably because his persecution complex lead him to believe he was being sabotaged by the community, which in turn was because his malignant narcissism wouldn't allow him to consider the reality that comics were just dogshit. He even hired an artist in secret to avoid his art being associated with it. That didn't last long though as old posts revealed he was the writer. He still tried to deny it for some time after before finally coming clean. I'm certain that despite being a critical failure he still hasn't realized that he is the problem, not his name, not his art, and not the community.
This was so fucking gay I blanked it from my memory.

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It's a shame I just started following this general as soon as it was getting murdered

>>153609699
It's been like 5 years of slow poisoning. Crazy to think about honestly.

>>153609865
All because no one read Terriful

>>153609865
It really doesn't seem like something you should be able to "kill" but I suppose that's the nature of having a dedicated schizophrenic.