What kinds of superheroes are the most natural to see around Japan in a superhero comic setting?Powers, character, styles of costume- whatever
some kinda robot with a kid nearby, or robot that looks like a kid i guess. ninja wizard maybe. skull pimp.
Seems a bit cheap just to make their heroes Kamen Rider/Ultramen/Sentai Squads. Also capeshit seems to have a hatred for giant robots having them tend towards either be supervilain devices or jobbers.
>>153594829Japanese Superheroes looks and act very much like american ones. They are just far more melancholic.
>>153594986Is this a reference to manga spiderman?
>>153595042Nah. Ishimori's supers tend to be melancholic and alone.
>>153594986>>153594910>Japanese Superheroes looks and act very much like american ones.Riders, transplanted into the Manichean universe of capeshit, would all count as irredeemably evil. Their powers generally originate from a source that is evil, meaning that their very existence is foul.What's worse, the "good" riders generally very much care about and happily interact with normies, which breaks another fundamental taboo of capeshit.And the Ultramen are racists and a danger to society. They literally beat up illegal immigrants while also trying to make sure that society grows into being able to defend itself from illegal immigration without relying on the Ultramen.Sentai Squads seem to be the only ones that wouldn't be kill on sight, though some of them would absolutely count as criminals.
>>153595061Can you go a single thread without trying to hamfistedly force politics into it.
>>153594829Within the actual big 2 Japanese superheroes are the most stereotypical ninjas and samurai or generic kawaii robots. It wasn't until like the past 10 or so years the industry started getting writers who even know about actual hero characters from Japan like Ultraman etc.
>>153595071Ultramen beat up illegal immigrants. That's what they do. In that universe, normies going into space and setting up space weapons that shoot down space monsters before they reach Earth is considered sensible and good. That's the kind of universe it is.It's not the series' fault that the US is experiencing another Business Plot right now.
>>153595078A guy just being called just 'Samurai' when his powerset is wind stuff is pretty bad
>>153595147You don't actually believe this shit. You're fully aware comics are fine with stopping alien invasions and having demon heroes and such, while Kamen Rider had a woke series on amazon. You're just farming izzat like a worthless thirdie.
Hulk very easily fits within the narrative structure of Japan as the God of strength. Think Sakata Kintoki though minmaxed
>>153595276Lots of cultures mythology could be mined for a hulk-like hero, literally Cú Chulainn and his Warp Spasms that caused him to 'hulk out' in a terrifying fashion.
>>153595216He should be called Kamikaze.
>>153595334this
>>153594829>What kinds of superheroes are the most natural to see around Japan in a superhero comic setting?Very nationalistic ones
>>153595334>>153595358How is the term Kamikaze considered in modern Japan?On one hand it is historical about the Divine Wind that saved Japan twice from Mongol naval invasion, but on the other they don't tend to like dwlling on their activities on WW2 it is also now associated with due to a tactic of wasteful do-little suicide attacks.
>>153595250>You're fully aware comics are fine with stopping alien invasionsThey are not fine with normies doing it, because that would be Science Fiction. Also any tech normies control will be captured by villains and used as a plot point to illustrate why normies having things is bad and only supers should have them.
>>153595376Aren't the majority of 'foriegn' superheroes in superhero comics just flat national stereotypes that often exist to have their national superteam jobbed in a single page (or even off-panel) to whatever major threat the 'main' heroes are going to face to build it up.Most glaring example that springs to mind is a foreign superhero team in an Iron Man comic that all got killed right in their initial introduction because they got suicide bombed by terrorists with arc-reactors, all done by the writing solely to make Tony Stark feel guilty (again)
>>153595061Wolverine is a guy that was modified by an evil organization and uses his mechanized body for justice.
>>153595435And the guy who made the adamantium bonding process was Japanese! And his nemesis and girl nemesis both first appeared in Iron Fist!
>>153595429Sometimes if they are written in "hero teams up with someone in their native country" stories they are okay in terms of not being fodder at least.
Grasshopper Aug.
>>153594910>Also capeshit seems to have a hatred for giant robots having them tend towards either be supervilain devices or jobbers.because a giant robot doesnt easily slot into the "fight crime in new york/metropolis/gotham" format and all their enemies would logically have to be giant sized as wellhuman-sized mechs or just human-like androids are just easier to write forespecially in marvel, where all the action happens in one city, so you want dont want to come up with a handwave for why nobody ever sees the 150-foot tall robot that should be clearly visible in other peoples issues at this time
>>153595648The amount of superheroes focused solely in New York for Marvel is pretty retarded.
>>153595717The others are all obvious cheap parody designs by the artist, but what is the skeleton robot meant to be knocking-off?
>>153595667Having them all in New York makes it so criminals instinctively want to travel to New York and fight them. It lowers the overall crime rate.
>>153595667Japan has the same problem with Tokyo, only with more alien invasions and demonic outbreaks.
>>15359482930 replies in and nobody has said Spider-Man yet?Do you even Tokusatsu?
>>153595891the OP is asking what's going on in japan in Marvel and DC not what their own hero industry is like
>>153595435During the original run, Wolverine's writers gave him an acute awareness of his status. Straight up made him say that he was going be the one to do all the wetwork for Xavier's milita. Why? Because he's the one who's burdened with being ontologically evil.
>>153594829Cyborg boys
Technically, the super powers shouldn't be based on or affiliated with the country of origin, cuz that makes no sense, why would dirt have a preference?, the heroes or villains, however, would be influenced by their experiences and familiarity with their area, so they would act accordingly. And that's not even to say they would be themed based on nationality or culture, just what they know. Spider-man has nothing to with being an American; everyone knows spiders, but someone from somewhere else might have different take on it, even in some other part of the US.
>>153596051Is it really? He’s just asking what’s most natural to be seen there. Spider-Man would be pretty natural due to that aforementioned Tokusatsu stuff. Even if actual Japanese heroes in-universe are very different (eg Big Hero 6, Sunfire, etc. for Marvel), the fact that Marvel is meant to be an analogue to the real world means that the Japan of Marvel would still have enough Tokusatsu media to make a Spider-Man appearance somewhat sensible. A little unusual, maybe, but definitely more natural than someone like Luke Cage or White Tiger showing up over there.
>>153595429Also they just get repleaced by their "bloodline".It was really borring, I like the internatinal heros, but Marvel and DC do really horrible jobs, haft of the time we dont get the powers of the caracters.
>>153594829My Hero Academia does a good job showing traditional superheroes through a Japanese lens.Licensing and working within the framework of society would be taken very seriously. Vigilantes would be severely frowned upon. The few vigilantes that exist in MHA's universe are sure to keep on good terms with licensed heroes. They would look askance on superheroes as a celebrity culture, preferring instead to frame themselves as beacons of hope and the common good rather than chasing licensing deals.
>>153596788Something about "Japanese Capeshit" series that bothers me is how there's always strictly defined numbered/lettered rankings entwined within them.MHA, OPM, Tiger & Bunny and probably more examples of the less readily known mangas, they all have it. I can understand its a representation of how stratified Japanese social culture is where test scores and seniority can almost dictate your worth as a human being but still its aggrivating to constantly witness.
>>153594829They already have plenty of manga with superheroes. >>153596169Extremely based Akumetsu mention. That's a true hero.
>>153597415But its not about manga, its asking about japanese superheroes in western superhero comics.
>>153595429America probably has more flattering portrayals in nippon media than the other way round
>>153596901It's been awhile, but in Tiger & Bunny isn't the ranking system literal bullshit created as part of the hero marketing?
>>153594829magical girls
>>153598312The superheroes in T&B are really reality tv stars first, crimefighters second. They are pretty lacking in competency even in trying to stop mundane crimes like bank robbers and it only gets resolved with alot of collateral damage.
>>153597815Yeah but they already have their own stereotypes of japanese heroes that can be used in manga. >>153596901There are plenty of jap capeshit without it like Hurricane Polymar.
>>153598597>that can be used in manga.*meant to say that can be used in comics. Western comics can pull from the classic japanese superheroes.
>>153595386I'm pretty sure they only see the term with a negative connotation now, even if it was once a positive thing.
>>153598327This. Magical girls are my favorite part of the superhero genre. A shame /co/ has so little mahou shojo content.
>>153598687What magical girls are actually in western superhero media?
>>153595891Its a shame how hard Leopardon was jobbed in the Marvel comics just to put over those shitty notvampires.
