Anybody here read Love and Rockets?What did you think?
>>153595201More people need to accept Luba into their lives.
Mediocre. A slice of life story is novel in American comics, but any bog standard SoL manga I've read is more engaging and visually interesting.
>>153595840The American comics "scene" is much too impressed with anything for not being a superhero book.
>>153595201Greatest comic ever made, obviously.
>>153595201Locas/Hoppers 13 is one of my all-time favorite runs, including manga.I like Gilbert's work as well, but Jaime is where it's at. The alternating crisp notan and Tothian chiaroscuro are beautiful, despite the ugliness of that world. It's rife with magical realism, with quite a bit of the sinister mixed in. I'd like to pork Maggie.
>>153595201I read and liked it. Do not like the child molestation and pedophilia in later arcs.
>>153595201It's vastly overrated, the idea that it's this great artistic work is ridiculous. Luba's tits are good.
>>153595201Too much love, not enough rockets
>>153595201Good.
>>153595201Nobody reads comics. >>153595840Manga is better at absolutely everything, not just SoL.
>>153595201Large breasts.
I've only read the first two collections but I liked them.
>>153595201not yet
manga will always be superior as the west (the states specifically) simply see comics AND cartoons as slop for kiddies
>>153598122>>153599263Based and true.
>>153595201gay chicano shit
>>153595201Garbage
A bunch of rich white fags like Gary Groth who had trustfund money were impressed that some Me-hee-cans could draw a crude doodle that wasn't superheroes and were so impressed by this he gave them both money for life to draw their fetish comics, being so amazed that they were willing to work for money and not stab them like they expected.
>>153600141>gay chicano shitIronic, considering Gilbert made a little cartoon about how him, Jaime and Mario were told by family they weren't "Chicano enough"
>>153595201I've never read them, but I have heard of them through friends... but only the gay ones. So they're definitely not for me.
>>153595201It's one of my favorite comics. I especially love the second volume. Although Gilbert's latest stuff gets too weird for me. >>153595840I don't think there is a manga at all as well done as Love and Rockets, which is itself much more than just SoL
>>153601147They're schodinger's chicano, they are really only notable for being one of the few Mexicans working in indie comics at the time, but also basically nothing like typical Mexicans because they aren't just drinking, sleeping and playing annoying fucking music way too loud. Indie fags like them because it allows them to feel cultured by reading something made by "nonwhite" people while also being nothing like 99% of Mexicans lmao.
>>153601226>I don't think there is a manga at all as well done as Love and Rockets, which is itself much more than just SoLI decided to look up a random SoL manga on mangadex that I will never read or care about and this page along has a more interesting and dynamic style than anything I have seen flipping through Love and Rockets. That's what seems like the big difference between how Japan does genres and how American indie genres work, Japanese artists will put the same effort into any genre as action comic/manga with effort into depicting interesting angles and dynamics, American indie feels ashamed by this and it's all just dull fucking flat shots everywhere. American indie is so obsessed with not being mainstream superhero comics they also reject the concept of interesting shots or visuals because they find it distracting, unless it's some overwrought graphic design panel wank.
>>153601397That random page you posted looks like such dogshit and is big part of why manga is so inferior to me, that alongside the abysmal writing. I guess this is visually interesting if you are a retard or a hentai obsessed teenager but there is nothing about this poorly done drawing of a generic manga character in stupid and over dramatic pose/shot that is appealing to me at all.
>>153601397this is some stupid manga about a murder prettyboy for girls I think, but you know what, it still looks nicer than Love and Rockets. I know the backgrounds are traced and even the can probably is but I don't care, it feels like there's effort in the visuals.
>>153601492This is garbage and I blame the communists for this somehow. There is some sort of fucking commie thinking into making this considered not just acceptable, but somehow of artistic merit. Fuck You.
>>153601492I'm sorry buddy you are just a tasteless retard, a pointless page of generic soulless anime characters over traced backgrounds that attempts and fails to build some kind of mood or atmosphere and just wastes time. Terrible
>>153601482you will cry and scream and piss and shit this for the rest of your waning years and yet people will still continue to enjoy manga and most people would consider even the most cliche and stock manga to not only be better drawn but also more engaging than the bullshit the American industry manages to push in all dimensions. There is no escape from the enshittification and you outright justify it. Rot in hell.
>>153601539please tell me how great this page is because it's "Toth-esque" or whatever fucking bullshit selling point you need to pretend these doodles are of any merit.
>>153601598Funny to bring up Toth, I'm more of a Jaime guy but the storytelling here is very strong, crude and simple art but effective and clear at conveying all the characters emotions and relations through simple expressions and body language and framing, much more so than those Manga pages you posted, not to mention the better writing and prose.
>>153599263But manga is just for kids too
>>153601492Gay
>>153598122>Nobody reads comics.
>>153595201I've tried reading different parts several times. It's always interesting to look at, but the characters and stories have never quite connected with me. The number of characters with large, absolutely massive breasts is nice though.
>>153603320This is Jewish
>>153608393Explain.