Want to get into Batman? Sure! You can go with: Snyderverse, Diniverse, Matsudaverse, Superfriends, Reevesverse, Burtonverse, Legomovieverse, Nolanverse, Millerverse, Filmationverse, Morrisonverse, Conwayverse, New 52, Ninja Batmanverse, Arkhamverse, Fingerverse, Baman Piderman, Murphyverse,
Uh, you read Batman Year 1, the Killing Joke, and watch the animated series. It's not even nearly that complicated.
>>153596017>Batman Year 1, Dark Moon Rising, Man Who Laughs, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, and watch the animated seriesftfy
Just like with recommending any long-running franchise, it goes in tiers.Must watch/play: Batman Begins, TDK, Arkham gamesAnd if you still want more after that: BTAS, The Batman 2022, 1989And if you still want more after that, read TKJ, Hush, and Knightfall,and if you still want more after that, etc...
>>153596027>>153596024>>153596017>>153595989And this is why anime is winning.
>>153596035I mean, binging the must-watches of Batman or Transformers or Spider-Man is gonna be a whole hell of a lot easier than binging all 10,000 hours of DBZ, DBS, and its movies
Any "where to start with Batman" rundown that doesn't include Year 1 as a comic, TAS as a series, and either 89 OR TDK as a movie is factually incorrect and should be ignored. This is just straight up where you start.
>>153596035>>153596046The only anime franchise that is the same level of bad conitnuity-wise as western comics is Gundam
>>153595989You could read or watch a batman thing, see if you like it, and read or watch more if you do. The need to obsessively experience it in some mythical ideal order is an autism thing.
>>153596035I dunno, like people recommand you start one piece around book 11 and then go back, and suchlike
>>153596227>I dunno, like people recommand you start one piece around book 11 and then go back, and suchlikeWeird. THere's nothing wrong with the first 10 volumes
>>153596035Here's an idea OPThere's more to comics than just two publishers and one genre
>>153595989Just read/watch them all. I don't see the problem here.
>>153595989I just watched Burton Batman movies and than I read The Legends of The Dark Knights. You could read Year One instead of watching movies.
>>153595989Nobody says that.
>>153595989>Want to get into Batmanjust play the arkham games they have everything you need to know
>>153595989How do you get into Star Wars?
>>153595989giving this much of a shit about continuities is exactly what fucked over comics in the west; the basics of all the major characters are established enough at this point that people should be able to just pick up a random story and enjoy it without needing to read through twenty years of context first.same goes for writers. if someone wants to start a new run of batman or superman or thor or ironman or spider-man, or whoever, let them. if the writing is bad it'll be forgotten and if the writing is good, who gives a fuck if it fits into MUH CONTINUITY besides the autists?
>Start with issue one of the current reboot>if they reference shit that you don't know about either read the relevant issue or just ignore it>Nightwing fought time wizards or some shit last month, ok, do I really need to go read the whole thing to know how he beat the arch-wizard and got his son pregnant or does knowing there's such a thing as time wizards is enough to understand the current plotline>9 times out of 10 it's a waste of time and money>the last one is just the Killing Joke or TDKR which didn't happen in this continuity but also sort of did except not that way but if they didn't happen nothing makes sense so we all pretend they did>fuckin' time wizard it's probably his fault>I hope his faggot son has an abortion
>>153595989Oh no ... options! How horribleDo you also go freak out on /tv/ about getting into James Bond?
>>153596035And when someone wants to get into Dragonball?
>>153597025Telling someone who wants to get into manga/anime to start with Dragonball is like telling someone who wants to get into reading to start with War and Peace. And telling someone who wants to get into comics/cartoons that they can't "appreciate" a character unless they read 184 issues and graphic novels in a precise order is like telling someone they can't appreciate Mozart's Jupiter symphony without listening to another 20 hours of his music first.If someone wants to get into a well-established comic character, they should be able to pick up any one of a hundred random, well-written issues, give it a read, read a few more, and only then if they're still interested should they be worrying about specific runs or writers or continuities.
>>153597025Read the Dragonball manga or watch the ep 1 of the original Db anime.
>>153596953>>Start with issue one of the current rebootThat was your first mistake.
>>153595989>Having variety is bad
>>153599193A lot of the stuff he mentioned is garbage. Having variety where most of it is slop is not a good thing but it's not a problem for batman since you have charts with all the good stuff.
It's so difficult to just watch a popular tv show.
>>153599367>It's so difficult to just watch a popular tv show.It would be easier if it just was a single popular tv show
>>153599732No it wouldn't.
>>153596035They were until they stopped doing seasons and started releasing shit as "the X arc" which made getting into it confusing as shit
>>153599761You're a jew Noishe you suffer vitamin deficiencies as a racial passive to spread shortband mental chaos. That's what I'm always going to refer to you as Lucy, since the queen of the supposed secret empire couldn't lift a finger to save her counterparts little bro. Roll that camera win or lose! BETTER BE READY YOU'RE UP ON THE MARTIAL ARTS MAT ISRAEL. LET ME SAY IT TWICE FOR ;YOU; DESERT RAT. YOUR HANDLERS WILL SUFFER EVEN MORE FOR YOU.
>>153599743>No it wouldn't.or at least stick to a single continuity for 12 years or so.
>>153595989Why don't video game franchies or long-running TV series suffer from this complaint? It's not this big debate about, "Where do I start with Final Fantasy?" or "Where do I start with Doctor Who?". Most of the time, people will just see a clip and go, "Where is this from? I wanna check this out (that specific episode)" or "I know Mario 64 is a classic game, I think I'll try it out". I feel like comics follow the same idea. "I know Killing Joke is a comic staple, I think I'll read it" or they see a page posted on social media or maybe a storytime thread and go, "Huh, I'm interested, let me check this out". It's not like Superman having an 80-year run would somehow be preferable to what we have right now.
>>153599824Because it's a hollow meaningless complaint that's just covering up for someone not being literate.
>>153599824For final fantasy almost every game is a new instalment that has nothing to do with the others.
>>153599991Does your ability to enjoy For The Man Who Has Everything hinge on knowing what happened to Superman in #27? Does not having read Issue #168 stop you from appreciating The Killing Joke? Or can we just accept that characters who have been around for a hundred fucking years are ingrained enough into our culture that they can be enjoyed without needing to read an entire franchise?
>>153596212Gundam's not really all that bad with continuity either. You start with Gundam 79 then continue the UC stuff through CCA, which is release order anyways. After that you're free to dip into the other movies and OVA's.The alternate timeline stuff should be saved until after CCA but those are also just a one and done show, sometimes a movie to cap it off. In fact a lot of people were introduced via alt timelines like Wing and G. It's a little more complex than the typical anime due to how long it's been running but it's still not a capeshit situation where you have the same character being run concurrently in half a dozen books crossing over with dozens of others, plus a yearly big epic event that CHANGES EVERYTHING™.
>>153596212Zoids is pretty bad
>>153595989>>153596035>You can literally start anywhere, it's fine!>It..it's so confusing ahhhh!
>>153596046DBZ has 291 episodes, which Kai trimmed down to 167.The main DCAU stuff, which I'll just trim down to BTAS and TNBA, Superman, JL, and JLU, totals to 254 episodes. 358 episodes if you (rightfully) include Batman Beyond and Static Shock. 384 if you're a completionist and toss in Zeta project.I'll concede DBZ has more movies, though, 17 compared to DCAU's 6.
>>153599824With a handful of exceptions, most game stories are very self contained and it's the same deal as manga and anime: you start with the first entry and play in release order, and that's all you need to fully enjoy the story. Same deal with TV and movies.Even the current trend of making a big interconnected universe for your movies where everything builds up to a big crossover event, is itself an idea lifted from comics by means of the MCU.
>>153597025Watch clips of it and larp as a 90s shitball fan who wishes the series was as brutal and dark but "hahaha sexy, oh japan" as Bastard! and then watch touristcore shit like JJK and OPM
>>153595989Batman Year 1Absolute Batman #1>>153596035Anime fans are too stupid to read a comic?
I dont know how we reached this point but if you really arent smart enough to read a fucking comic book about a spandex man fighting crime then give up on reading altogether and turn on cocomelon
>>153595989As you aptly demonstrate, Batman is easy for even normies to get into.
>>153595989Yes! There's dozens of jumping on points and alternate universe series. Almost all of them perfectly fine for new readers! And when you want to try another run then you can! Ironically enough it gets tiring the more you read because a lot of stuff is undone or no longer means anything when that run is done. New readers don't realize how much better they have it compared to those that have been reading comics for much longer.
>>153602914What is objectively the worst comic for normies (or for anyone) to get into?
>>153602996Savage Dragon
>>153595989>oh boy I can’t wait to go see “Mona Lisa 2” by Gerald Banks. It should be just as good as the first!
>>153597007You can actually bing all of James bond in a few weeks. There are many James bond fans who have watched and can rank all the movies and a few super ones who have read all the books two, there's like 25+ movies and the 14 books. Can't say the same for reading every super man comic which would take years if you went the Completionist Route so the comparison doesn't work.There are franchises where there are a lot of entries and may have a new entry once a year and then there's super hero comics which add a new entry every week. That being said being a completionist with Super Hero Comics is just losing the battle. You just have to approach it more like a all you can eat buffet. Pick and choose what interests you and come back for seconds.
>>153596035>>153595989I'm so tired of this fucking line of thinking. Everytime somebody wants to get into comics they always undergo these unnecessary histrionic lines of questioning instead of just fucking reading. JUST FUCKING READ NIGGER. Do you like Batman the animated series? Go read Batman Adventures.Do you like the Adam West series? Go read Batman '66.Do you want to explore the sillier Batman stories? Go read the silver age stuff.Do you want crazier Bond-esque adventures? Go read Neal Adams' Batman work.This shit isnt hard. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to determine these things. Why is there such an epidemic of inaction and incessant fruitless worry? It's a fucking comic book, not the SAT.
>>153596035>He says as Oda is about to embark a remake of the long running animeWithout comics and cartoons, you dont get anime. It is thusly only logical that the same issues present in western cartoons and comics eventually present themselves in manga and anime.
