HANDS UP! TELL ME WHY YOU DON'T SUPPORT COBRA IN IT'S GOAL TO RESTORE AMERICA
>>153600469I think the real reason G.I Joe dropped off the mainstream is because the main villains are capitalist terrorists, and corporate America finally noticed and cannot tolerate such a hard callout.
>>153600549Capitalist terrorist? They just seen my guys who want to take over the world in general in most of the TV shows .
>>153600573Read the original comics. Cobra are absolutely capitalist thugs who are building a power base for the ultimate goal of attaining wealth. The original Cobra Commander was literally a used car salesman who started up a terrorist organization. Hama was NOT subtle about any of this shit.
>>153600549>>153600573COBRA uses capitalism to expand their network and are a perversion of the American dream. MARS, the twins, they run all the legitimate businesses that fund COBRA. Hell, COBRA has entire suburbs housing agents within American soil, and their own chain of Not-Walmarts
COBRA is what Blackrock doesn't have the balls to be.
>>153600469I'm pretty sure Cobra doesn't care about America despite their main enemy being based there. I know Cobra Commander is (sometimes) an American but he hires people from all around the globe (and in the animated movie he's some pre-human Lovecraft abomination), so it doesn't seem like "restoring America" is really on their agenda.... Hm... Cobra is made up of people from all over the world while GI Joe is mostly American... Is Cobra the "bad guys" Alex Jones keeps jammering on about?
>>153600702They don't need to? Rich bastards and Jews already won. They convinced most of humanity to give women rights to kill the birthrate. It will take time to see the effects on Non Whites but it has worked wonderfully. Women have been convinced to KILL their races worldwide and since women are stupid and uncaring well they do NOT care about keeping their race alive. Human women are excrement.
>>153600621>The original Cobra Commander was literally a used car salesman who started up a terrorist organization.I enjoy this.
What's funny about the current Energon Universe Cobra Commander backstory is that he's attempting to take over the world so he can save the race of subterranean snake people that took him in years ago. So really COBRA can be a funny play on the old "Lizard People secretly rule the world" conspiracy
>>153600725By environmental and sustainability standards for the most part many places there are too many humans or way more than we actually need or should have for long-term sustainability and by long-term I mean I'm worried about when I'm going to be in my fifties or so and I'm in my thirties Especially since a lot of companies want to do nothing to stop what's already affecting the planet now or stop making it worse and accelerated having a few less kids and women not forced to give birth is not going to make the human species go extinct.
>>153601093Same. The original Hama run goes hard and is a hell of a fun ride. Absolutely worth checking out. Sadly, it's probably another reason why G.I Joe never managed to snag the same pillar status that Transformers did. While Transformers is also deeply and inextricably political, it's couched in the fantasy of giant robots fighting over mostly fictional political issues. G.I Joe on the other hand takes place in a version of the real world, and is thus beholden to real world history and issues. I mean, the comics had a whole arc about the Khmer Rouge for fucks sake. Shit can get a bit too real for a mainstream time slot, you know?
>>153601093Fuck Magneto that’s the best villain origin story
>>153601821Cobra Commander is a guy who seems to have a different origin in virtually every iteration of GI Joe that even gives him an origin, nothing else really uses the Hama comic origin.The parts that make it a really memorable origin are how he was radicalized by how his army veteran brother was treated after coming back from Vietnam, and how he got the money to start up Cobra by running pyramid schemes, but everyone seems to fixate purely on the "former used car salesman" part, which was literally just because as a career it was storytelling shorthand for "this is a shifty guy you can't trust".
>>153600469Cobra is RIPOFF of Kobra! DC did the reptile themed terrorist group YEARS before G.I. Joe!
>>153600469Cobra? who caresNobra? call me
>>153602171at this point you might as well be complaining about people ripping off Blue Bolt
>>153601164Hmm you didn't refute what he said, you just said you side with the baal cult because of your ira, not going to help you btw since they're just importing the third world.
>>153602171Literally nobody cares about DC's Kobra.
>>153602242I was making a point that something he said was evil and going to genocide Humanity might actually be some in benefits or for people in the planet if we stop having so many people for a bit especially since Industries not going to do anything to help the Common Man or the planet if it comes in the way of money . I didn't say he wasn't an insane conspiracy theorist who believes are based out of bigotry that Jews are doing this why because they must do it because they're evil in his eyes.
>>153601245There aren't a lot of 1980s G1 Transformers stories that are "deeply and inextricably political". I'm sure you can cherry pick one or two that were back then, but it's much more of a modern development. It was largely just a science fiction saga about an alien civil war spreading to Earth and other worlds, a war where one faction is just evil and wants to rule the galaxy. The only big IRL issue that there was a recurring parallel with was the 1970s energy crisis, something that was over before more of the audience for G1 was born, not a reference they'd recognize.But while the GI Joe comics dealt with real history and geopolitics, and fictional allegories for IRL nations, the cartoon goes into total fantasy far more often than recognizable real issues, and the cartoon version of Cobra is just an international cabal of Bond villain types and literal supervillains who all just want to rule the world, they don't follow any recognizable ideology. The most political the cartoon got was acknowledging that the USSR and the Cold War were things in the 1980s. The route to giving GI Joe more mass appeal may well be to take this approach over the more grounded version from the comics, but that means going against what most of the hardcore fandom want.I'm pretty sure Hasbro are leaning towards Sunbow Cobra Commander over Marvel, and Skybound are also doing a version that's more inspired by the cartoon because that version isn't political, and half the audience isn't going to see him as the good guy.
>>153602096Huh that is a pretty cool origin when you get down to the fine details
>>153602339>for a bitlike it was some collective decision, you better this cope pans out.
>>153602171They are actually Hydra
>>153601162Isn’t he building his own army to PREPARE for the secret snake race upcoming invasion?Like CC knows about Cobra-LA, so his organization is about preparing for their arrival.
>>153603526No, he was trying to save Cobra-La from the world that's coming, the Transformers' arrival and everything else, but they regard him as a traitor because he's an outsider and he's using technology and not telling them what his actual plans are. By this point he has his own agenda and they're sending assassins after him, but he started out trying to prove himself to them and he may still think if he's successful, they're going to welcome him back and thank him.
>>153600469So is it true that Cobra successfully runs a small town in Middle America? Why the fuck doesn't Cobra Commander just stick to that and consider it a sign of success and leave the rest of the shit alone?
>>153600725The black birth rate is already lower than rates. There is no take time, we are there.
>>153603541I would like more Baroness please
>>153605029Don’t reply to your own posts.
>>153600469GI Joe has Lady Jaye.I have no choice but to support them.
>>153602384Look bro having Hot Rod say "the Autobots stand beside our proud brothers in arms of Carbombya" really aged badly; there's just no getting around it.
>>153604966I can't remember her name but I enlisted in Cobra because of this big ass blonde.
The Baroness owes me hand holding!
>>153600621Cobra’s early funding came from MLM scams. I honestly love the mix of garish capitalism, crypto-fascism, and militarism Cobra has going for it.
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>>153607905Hey get in line buddy me first
>>153602384>I'm pretty sure Hasbro are leaning towards Sunbow Cobra Commander over MarvelThey always have. The whole reason Duke exists as the "face" of the franchise is because Hasbro dislikes how Hama would use General Hawk to get political at times.
>>153600469You want to shove everyone snakes up their asses!How is that going to restore America!?
>>153601245The endgame of comics Cobra is functionally modern Russia. An oligarchic, kleptocratic security state. The only difference is that the informal systems of patronage and influence defining the Russian system are replaced with outright licensing and bureaucracy under Cobra.
>>153609597>They always have.Not really, the 2000s revival tended to be more focused on the comics than the cartoons, as that's what the fandom preferred. The move to more of a Sunbow focus is a 2020s development.>The whole reason Duke exists as the "face" of the franchise is because Hasbro dislikes how Hama would use General Hawk to get political at times.I think Hawk just got left out of the first cartoon miniseries because Duke was a newer toy they wanted to promote, and Hawk didn't get brought in until he had a new toy in 1986, and this set the pattern for later GI Joe cartoons and other adaptations, Hawk is portrayed as the general, with Duke as the 'face' of GI Joe because he's the guy leading them into battle. And Snake Eyes usually gets pushed harder than either of them because he's more popular.
>>153600469Female henchwomen are cool
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>>153600469I assumed you guys were a leftover from the Third Reich
>>153603541Bruh, that's literally Angela White.
>>153612283Makes the male heroes hesitate to hit a girl. It's just bad optics.
>>153600573don't even try to convince me it wasn't a coomer that generated this
>>153600469What is your actual ideology? No fuck that what is your actual PLAN? >anarchism?>syndicalism? >social democracy? >fucking communism? >fucking fascism/NatSoc? >capitalism, unregulated or otherwise?>technocracy? >some sort of theocracy? What? All I see of you guys is your cool costumes and kit but nothing beyond other than a vague "Cobra wants to run everything."
The TRUE origin of Cobra Commander is that he was a man named Baron Ironblood whose goal was to DESTROY ALL ORGANIZED GOVERNMENT.One day he betrayed his own terrorist organization leaving all of his followers for dead, only sparing Destro, and took the identity of Cobra Commander and started a new organization named Cobra from scratch. This happened. It's canon.
>>153615176Cobra's plan is whatever makes Cobra Commander ruler of the world, their ideology is 'pretend to have ideology to recruit canon fodder', terrorism and profit(for Cobra Commander's benefit of course)
>>153615448So basically he's just Putin with a costume and a much better military. Splendid.
>>153600549Americans would happily eat up "take down the capitalist terrorists" slop if it was good. But the GI Joe movies were all dogshit with the exception of Retaliation which at least tried to remember it was a GI Joe movie. Then the shitty race-swap Snake Eyes "origin" movie killed any good will the franchise had left.
>>153615232>This happened. It's canon.>canon to the British Action Force comics>the first series, not the Marvel UK seriesIt's not canon to anything else. There is no "one true origin" for Cobra Commander, every time something gives him an origin, it's usually an entirely new one. Somehow there are two different iterations of GI Joe where Cobra Commander is the brother of the Baroness, but that's not a constant and nothing else is either.>>153615448It's more putting the Cobra high command in general in charge, most of them have taken at least one run at being the top dog. A lot of the time they're not even pretending to have ideology to recruit people so much as they're just offering the disaffected and disenfranchised of the world the opportunity to join a ruthless terrorist organization, determined to rule the world, for fun and profit.
>>153600469Because I don't live in America.
>>153615176HAAAILL KOBRAAAA
The best GI Joe movie is Street Fighter 1994
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>>153606296That’s Chameleon
>>153616042>"OF COURSE!!"
>>153612283You're goddamn right...
>>153616117In a surprising twist, it's been found that Sauron had completed a series of bank robberies to help fund Jurassic Park, simply because he wanted something to stick his dick in.
