Why do modern cartoons have no charm anymore? Or I'm just getting old atp.
Art school diversity initiative to industry pipeline.
>>153610383Part of it is that you're older and no longer the target demographic. When we were younger, older people used to complain about the same thing. But also, execs no longer have any sort of intuition or sense of taste. Shows used to live and die by an exec championing them. Someone would get a good feeling about a show, see tons of potential, and essentially become the person who pushed it through all the red tape. And if the show became a big hit, they'd reap the career rewards. Execs no longer pick shows up because they think they would be good. They pick them up because they imagine OTHER people would think they're good. They rely almost wholeheartedly on data and try to make safe bets which results in either an attempt to pander to a demographic they're trying to milk money out of, or something extremely milquetoast and boring. They're trying to do no risk/all reward and when a show is a total flop, they decide the entire industry is to blame. All they want is the next Spongebob, but they forget that when that was greenlit, there was no model indicating that it would be the monstrous success that it became. Had execs played the same number/data game back then that they do now, Spongebob never would have been greenlit.
>>153610383Gen xers stopped making them
Cartoon channels have fewer viewers than the weather channel nowadays.
>>153611228Gen Xers are still mostly in charge. Only a handful of millenials have gotten opportunities to create something back in the '10s.
>>153611663clearly the decision to do nothing but rerun episodes of TTG, Spongebob is working well. They should just cancel all their other programming and quadruple down
The industry turned into a nihilistic circlejerk to deflect criticism aimed at steven universe, and a few years down the line they ended up here.
>>153610383my conspiracy theory is that western animation and comic industry is shitting the bed on purpose as part of a bribe or insider trading thing for manga and anime companies
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>>153613305Not to mention the whole "this is my super-expensive therapy for my personal issues" angle so many younger creators have ostensibly taken on.
>>153612740I haven't watched either of those channels in years but seeing recently that in the TV listings is still kind of depressing.
>>153614086>but seeing that recentlySorry about that.
>>153614086It's just an incredibly shortsighted strategy. At some point, the target demographic of people who would be interested in seeing nothing but spongebob and TTG are going to age out and if you're not creating new things to capture newer generations or perhaps retain older generations who have gotten sick of the same old shit, then no duh, you're viewers are going to start falling off. The '10s-'20s model of no risk/only rewards is showing it's age. Reality TV printed money for awhile. Reruns, reboots, and prequels/sequels printed money for awhile. But viewership overall plummeted and now dipshit execs are wondering why nobody is watching TV anymore. Same reason attendance at theaters is down (plus the ridiculous costs that makes going to the movies a serious investment now). Make something actually good and people will actually watch. Entertainment execs almost act annoyed that they have to actually make something in order to get to the public's money these days.
>>153610383>>153611219When does it become less depressing? I've basically come to consume exclusively 20 to 80 year old cartoons at this point, and for as much as it helps in the short term, knowing something like Metalocalypse or Thundarr the Barbarbian isnt going to happen again just bums me the fuck out.
>>153610383It's just (You).
>>153610383Ted Turner died.
>>153616357Those specific types of cartoons were a product of their time. Both were successful because they were subversive, but the thing with that strategy is that once a subversive tactic is successful, it's no longer subversive and, as a result, no longer as effective. The only move forward is to try something different but 1) execs don't like to take chances on new things these days2) anything new won't feel the same because it necessarily won't BE the same.
>>153610383Because the people making cartoons are only using it as a stepping stone into live action or use the medium as a therapy session for other millennials.
>>153610383the problem is that all the major cartoon platforms have to compete with one another for who can hold the attention of dipshit kids the most, and that usually means that more fast pace, brightly colored, and obnoxious ADHD-ridden garbage. and consider that now, these platforms have to compete with the smartphones and tablets parents leave their kids watching
Because it's all woke social justice crap made by self-hating, retarded tranny Marxists. Come on man, you know the reason. Let's stop having this thread and let's start figuring out how to purge these defective freaks from the industry.
How do we bring back real cartoons?
>>153619828the path back is going to be a long hard one. Independent animation will ultimately fail to take the place of mainstream productions, but the best thing it can do is prove to execs that there's a hunger for new unique creator driven cartoons. Unfortunately it's going to take like a generation to pay off. We'll start seeing the benefits of the indie animation renaissance in the mainstream in like 10-15 years.
