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>parents who disapprove of South Park for its portrayal of how kids behave are upset because they "have an idyllic vision of what kids are like"
>Kids don't have any kind of social tact or etiquette, they're just complete little raging bastards"
Why does the fanbase get pissy when someone outside Cartman acts like an asshole, then?
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>>153625497
Ironically, the fanbase wants Kyle, Tolkien and Wendy to be more unhinged
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>>153625497
i'm more of an early seasons fan, i liked it better when they were all equally assholes to each other
i think the quote you brought up is from an interview during the time the early seasons were airing too, so it was still when stan and kyle would make unprompted fat jokes towards cartman
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>>153625903
I don't think we've ever seen unhinged Tolkien except for when he went to live with lions in Here Comes The Neighborhood
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>>153626047
Well, make him more unhinged!!!
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>>153625964
The only kids who feel like Classic South Park characters are Clyde, Butters and Kenny
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Did you think up this argument in the shower anon, or who am I kidding you don't shower
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>>153626273
Projection at its finest
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>>153626047
>>153625903
Tolkien's rich. He could easily be a guy who has somewhat of a superiority complex over his classmates.
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Bump
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Because Matt and Trey became the people who think kids are innocent angels
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>>153628026
Lame
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>>153625497
Their plebbit audience would lose their shit.
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FRUMPT
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Tweek is for
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>>153630996
Being forcefemmed
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>>153625497
I find it fascinating how the fanbase, by and large fixates soley on the kids, when even since the beginning of the series outside of the main 4 the adult characters were always more important. Took until season 4 for Tolkien to speak, by then Garrison was starting to come out and Ned started to fade into the background.
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>>153631609
I think you just answered your own question. The main 4 are kids so the fanbase gravitated towards them. It was different from other adult shows because kids were mains (until recently)
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>>153626126
>>153626507
I don't know. Sometimes it's good to have a straight man character who's genuinely a good person. Ironically makes him stand out more in a show like South Park. Stan is the usual straight man who's a decent enough person but he's also a hypocrite and a massive dick at times.
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>>153632199
But that's the problem. Too often are blacks depicted as holier than Jesus. When was the last time you saw a black person depicted as a villain or inferior rival what wasn't a sidekick of a whitie?
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>>153632805
Good point but Tolkien isn't the right character to do that sort of thing with. If anything it'd make more sense to introduce a new Black character in South Park who's a villain. Maybe similar to Chef in a way but mean and evil similar to Cartman, Mr. Garrison, and modern Randy.
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>>153633043
They could've done this in Tegridy
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>>153632805
>>153633043
>>153634783
Make a black character who's an asshole
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>>153625903
Do they really?
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>>153636431
Yeah. For Kyle, it's people on Xitter saying they liked when he was a hater. For Wendy and Tolkien, it's from an unpopular opinion repost thing. You can find them past the typical "If you don't like them, you're sexist/racist" post
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>>153625497
what would the fight scene between cartman and wendy look like if it was made in the earlier seasons?
my guess is wendy sending cartman to the sun
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>>153638134
Eh, she was still mainly an activist type early on, that was thrown in for shock value.
I imagine she'd play dirty in the fight
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>>153636431
Yeah, hilarious how their push to make them more sane backfired
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Wendy villain arc when?
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>>153640705
>Wendy being on Butters' side
Kino idea
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>>153625497
IMPEACH GRUMPF
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>>153642454
TINY DICK
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TWO SCOOPS?!
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Ninja Craig
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>>153645380
You don't have a pic?
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>>153625903
>>153626047
>actually saying Tolkien
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>>153645715
Hey, I'm not the guy who got blacked and retconned one of my character's names



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