We call these relationship goals. You might not like it but this is what progress looks like.
Omg this is so wholesome and Gender? If all politicians were Sapphic-coded there would be worldpeace UwU
>>153632039That's Ivy imagining Harley. But they have had an open relationship for a while. And cuckqueaning is hot.
>>153632039Is she watching Ivy fuck from the cuck chair?
>>153632039Every hotelgot the Harley Quinn chair
Harley and Ivy being made into full blown dykes truly is a tragedy. These characters used to be special, now they are just another liberal puppet piece.
So I haven't been reading Poison Ivy but I've certainly heard good things about, stuff like how it treats Ivy with some moral ambiguity.So my question to anyone who was actually reading Poison Ivy, has this Mayor Ivy arc completely disrail shit?
I need Smitty to remake this but with the shadows clearly being Ivy getting piped by a massive dick.
>>153632354She's implied that she brainwashed the population into voting for her, she dumped Harley because she was ruining her image, and she is working with vandal savage
>>153632331this like this was better when they weren't allowed to do it, so they just shoved in a bunch of subtext.
>DC took a survivor of Joker's psychological torment who was a metaphor for women in abusive relationships and turned her into a dimwitted sex crazed dykeNever forgive.
>>153632039Are people unironically surprised Harley is a cuckqueen?
>>153632553>psychological tormentmeh harley is from a time when the joker wasn't regularly fucking people's skinned corpses.
>>153632450But does that feel natural or contrived?
Best girl
>>153632039Nippleless tits in shadow silhouette.
>>153632598Literally through her out a window after trying to kill Batman and then sent flowers to her.
>>153632720Some girls are into that.
>>153632553Metaphor? It's not a metaphor but a literal depiction of a woman in an abusive relationship.
>>153632638>>153632354It feels contrived. Not because it's unreasonable as a plot progression but because there's really no fucking reason for her to be doing it. It feels like it was probably an editorial push. Being mayor isn't doing ANYTHING of value for her. It's just Everyone Loves Ivy but a single city instead of the entire world. Like the idea is that she's gonna use the political office to turn Gotham into the greenest city on the planet... wowee? Congrats you just jumped through a million hoops of red tape and votes and city meetings shit to... reduce global environmental problems 0.001%?So far the biggest thing she's done is set up a meeting with some corrupt sewage suit guy and then use that to lure him alone into the sewers where she murdered him, the sort of thing she's been doing for years without all the added risks of being mayor and having a bunch of eyes on her--and because of the retarded Savage thing she's also weirdly starting a renewed outright conflict with the Bats, who she's been more or less relatively neutral with the past ~decade since Everyone Loves Ivy.It's retarded, which is a shame because the series has a lot going for it and the arc before this where she was shifting more into conflict between the Green/Grey/Humans was actually really interesting and it would have been an amazing narrative move for her character to become the new Avatar of the Grey, where she could have kept her entire power set and thematics but been her own distinct character instead of awkward Swamp Thing 0.5.
>>153632845Yeah that seems more or less what I was expecting honestly. You got any hopes of the title weathering this or you think this is gonna be like the albatross around the neck?
>>153632720So? Harley literally handcuffed him and beat him with a baton while he pleaded with her to stop. She pointed a loaded gun at him threatening to murder him and he only got out by telling her she’s pretty. She was the one who wabted to kidnap Tim Drake, who did kidnap Tim Drake, and who got off scott-free for torturing him.Harley is only forgiven and painted as the victim because she’s a whore.
>>153632331Remember when Poison Ivy tried to rape Batman multiple times?I do. The Harley and Ivy shippers hate when I bring it up.Also crazy there's women who hate current Ivy and prefer Ivy as an hypocritical eco-fascist who got called out
>>153632905Impossible to say, really. The series has sold unexpectedly well in general but it's hard to accurately gauge what the makeup the purchasing audience is. Is it diehard batman fans? I doubt it considering how little of it is about Batman or even Gotham city proper. It's probably not the sexy femme fatale fans since the series has leaned pretty hard in both the gay and feminist-y directions from the very start. It's also been stepping on a lot of toes for what is probably a sizable bit of the audience buying it with the Janet stuff and this most recent Harley drama.I think it will depend a lot on how the arc resolves. I hope it keeps going because Ivy has been one of my favorite characters since TAS/Batman and Robin, and like I said, I was quite enjoying the Green plotline that was building before this weird detour, but who the fuck knows how the backend economics of its continuation are gonna pan out when it was only ever meant to be the like 8 issue mini series.
Words can't express how much I despise capeshit.
>>153632553>dimwitted sex crazed dykeShe isn't any of these things in modern arcs though. Putting aside the dyke vs bisexual in a long-term relationship with a woman debate, she's not at all sex-crazed and her "stupidity" isn't from being dimwitted (she's continuously depicted as exceptionally smart) but from her constant mental instability and immature personality.
>>153633093You know her fans are harley ivy fans that like the whole dyke thing She is ok as mayor, not everyone that gets elected gets a benefit from it, being there just because you have popular support and a vandal savage campaign manager is normal
>>153633093>I think it will depend a lot on how the arc resolvesOh no oh nooo that's not good.>hey gang we're back on our usually bullshit where for god forsaken reasons the villains are teaming up in the dumbest way possible, by magically becoming city officals!
>>153633203>You know her fans are harley ivy fans that like the whole dyke thingWe'll never really know because it's not like DC is sending out surveys with the series.
>>153633203>not everyone that gets elected gets a benefit from it>being there just because you have popular supportYes, anon but we're not talking about some rando off the street who thought "woah wouldn't it be cool to be mayor". Ivy is pretty anti-establishment and very driven by specific motivating factors so she needs a believable reason to decide to take up a modest position in the establishment for very little gain towards her primary motivating goals of helping the planet. As it is, the comic has her acting like being mayor of Gotham is some extremely crucial, amazing opportunity that is going to do wonders for the planet instead of a slow and painful process of making one moderate city cleaner, it also has her awkwardly pretending that "I have legality on my side now" is some huge gamechanger when she could has just as easily dosed the GCPD and court systems and accomplished the same thing without the mayoral trappings.>You know her fans are harley ivy fans that like the whole dyke thingI think that it is more of a mix than people suspect, but yes, I agree that Harlivy fans are probably a sizable chunk of the patronage and as mentioned the comic has been risking their patronage specifically with the Janet and Harley stuff.>>153633223I think that there are salvageable ways to close out this arc, like her popularity falls and Savage capitalizes/pushes her out, smearing her on the way so that she's forced back into pseudo-vigilantism. There are also really bad ways for this to end where she's awkwardly backslid into more villainy. I don't see a path where this particular narrative actually does anything positive or provides meaningful growth to her character. It's just a dumb aside. She's already learned control isn't everything and given it up twice, ELI/Fear State, and the "I'm doin' it legal this time" just feels like a dumb retread of shit Joker/Riddler have already done but in a best case scenario this is just a waste of time and not detrimental.
>>153633334>I think that there are salvageable ways to close out this arc, More like Savageable ways amirite ayy lmao!!!But seriously big dawg, someone on Bat Editoral is hard UP for Vandal Savage to be a Batman villain because this is something I remember popping up in Morrison's Batman.
>>153632644Didn't this artist troon out?
>>153633171>Modern Arcs>Where she's either attached to the hip to Ivy and/or getting bailed out for being LGBTQ+ by civvies like Bonquisha the Barista>Suicide Squad Video Game & Iskeai Harley being snart when she's just randumb femDeadpool played up to 11.>And that's without the absolute dumbassery that was the Harley Quinn Show.Good joke anon but you're going full retard on your DCuck LARP.
>>153635091>Where she's either attached to the hip to Ivy and/or getting bailed out for being LGBTQ+ by civvies like Bonquisha the Barista>I saw someone post a page from the cartoon specific tie-in comic!!!!!!!!!You don't need to broadcast how much you don't actually read comics. Ivy is barely even in Harley's ongoing. She shows up a handful of times as a supporting character to Harley's self-contained shenanigans, much like how Harley only shows up a handful of times in Ivy's comic, also as a supporting character to Ivy's self-contained adventures.>Suicide Squad Video Game & Iskeai HarleyPlease stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
>>153635134Anon.Harley isnt popular with normie girls and she is fluctuates between being every other middle aged/queer written bitchy manhating lesbian bossbitch mary sue and that particular brand of hot skank that we hatefuck into the matress fir half an hour to bust one off when we are horny and desperate but wouldnt touch with a 100 foot pole or even talk too otherwise.She's a dead IP. WB managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with their mishandling of her.
>>153632039Is this a fan comic?>>153632962Remember when Ivy's cover story that one time was she happily married a man, had children and just wanted to be a housewife?
>>153635179>Harley isnt popular with normie girlsNo female cape character is popular with normie girls. What even is this deflection? >she is fluctuates between being every other middle aged/queer written bitchy manhating lesbian bossbitch mary sue and that particular brand of hot skank that we hatefuck into the matressI don't know why you are doubling down on a complete misunderstanding of what the character is about, also that isn't what fucking Mary Sue means you retard. Harley is not either of these things. I get that your understanding of the character is based solely third party bullshit like Suicide Squad movies/Isekai and braindead misinformation you've seen people claim on /co/, but this doesn't reflect reality of her main continuity. The character is mostly just a street level do-gooder who oscillates between attempting diplomatic conversation and just smashing shit to get results. She is not particularly man-hating, she is only "boss bitch" in the sense that she, as a protagonist, successfully wins fights, because in all other regards if you wanted to simplify her existence to the level of retarded meme category parsable by your sort of low IQ buzzword faggotry: she's more "girl failure" than anything else. She sure as shit isn't a mary sue, since she's constantly fucking up and the comic is open about her numerous flaws and how they keep fucking up her life.>She's a dead IPShe's an A lister and DC's far and away largest female character (it's not even close). I know you really want to cope about her going away, but the reality is that she isn't any more dead than anyone else who isn't Superman, Batman, or Joker. There's no "jaws of victory" here. Her shift into solo anti-hero and pop punk aesthetic is the only thing that made her mainstream to begin with, which is why she was able to get five seasons of a shitty cartoon and is put in things like the anime.
>>153635285>and DC's far and away largest female characterI thought Orca was fatter
>>153632039more like Harley KEKQUEAN AMIRITE
>>153635285Look, your fucking head canon where you pick all of one or two appearances means fucking nothing.She is everything I described in the most popular current appearances. Including the vast majority of her comic apoearances. She is not your headcanon version or the onnocent dindu nuffin struggling shrink that was wormtongued by joker. Or whatever bullshit you think. As for popularity. That shit is over. The normies dont like her anymore and loud subgroups of dumbasses in social media mean nothing.Okay. Ask yourself, do women cosplay as harley quin anymore? Do guys drop her name when talking about hot or cool characters? No? Then shes no longer A list. Shes a C lister bordering on D list character.
Lesbo bait Harley exists because damn dildo and bob harras HATED her and batman tas in first place.Even the mention of Terry McGinnis made them seethe because muh legacy like Wally West.
>>153635396>Look, main continuity means nothing because I don't know it and it pokes holes in my poorly thought out argumentlol, okay>She is everything I described in the most popular current appearancesNo, she is everything you described in one largely unheard of cartoon spin-off comic that you are only even aware of because someone else posted pages from it on /co/, because you don't actually read any comics (which is why you didn't even know that it was from that and mistakenly thought that was how she was "in the comics"). She is not depicted as a Mary Sue ANYWHERE (but I get it, you don't actually know what the fuck "Mary Sue" means so you are throwing it out like a retarded faggot). She isn't man-hating basically anywhere. She is a "boss bitch" in a couple depictions but a fuck-up in significantly more. >Ask yourself, do women cosplay as harley quin anymore?Yes. Fucking constantly. Non-stop.https://www.tiktok.com/tag/harleyquinnhttps://www.instagram.com/explore/search/keyword/?q=%23harleyqui%CC%87nn>Do guys drop her name when talking about hot or cool characters?Considering the amount of AI slop and 3D/sfm porn I see of her everywhere, yes.
>>153635285>Her shift into solo anti-hero and pop punk aesthetic is the only thing that made her mainstream to begin withThis is an odd way to phrase it given how enormously popular she was following BtAS.
>>153635709I dont think they know why harley quinn is popular or where it started.>>153635658The recent cartoon, recent games, decades of fucking comics with nu-harley says youre wrong.Your head canon abd hand picked comic runs mean fuck and all you ridiculous cunt.And your one working link is almost entirely margot robbie. The character who is NOTHING like your head canon version that was popular before "they" got theur greasy mitts on her. Porn? Nonexistant now. OF E-whores dont cosplay as her anymore and its falken out of favor as thot wear for normal women because wb and hollywood mishandled her image and doubled down on the lesbo thing.Look, hot comic characters and female charaxters in conservative clothes are the norm. What seperates them are the stories, what they represent. They ruined what she represented as a character. I mean, the bonnie and clyde sadomasochistic rekationship with joker was a major selling point. And they threw that in the trash for dyke men bad victim points.
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>>153635824There's no such thing as Nu-Harley, you're just mad at the Old Harley and are too new to know that.
>>153636272>There's no such thing as Nu-HarleyHas she been daddy's little girl for longer than she was a hetero harlequin, such that it's now her default?
>>153632039Calling someone that makes shit like this a cuck is not only acceptable but recommended.
>>153636239>queers and trannies were the only ones into kimpossoble.>>153636272Yes yes.We've always been at war with oceania
>>153635134Hey there tumblytard, one's stopping your LARP but boy are you svrapimg the bottom of the barrel if you think 1 book being the outlier and not by much if future solicts are to be trusted. Harley has been shit and Ivy Thunberg is even dumber shit for writers to LARP as too. Just keep it to your AO3 and Etsy next time DCuck.>InB4 You Embarass Yourself even moreTell G Willow Wilson to get a better burka when she blows out your backside next time, we can see the strapline and smell the skidmarks a mile away.
>>153632272>cuckqueaning is hotthis man knows
>>153632331None of this is real in Harvey and Ivy's solo series where they don't interact with each other and which you do not read
>>153638210The character in that cover is not Harley, tourist.
>>153635281Didn't she just ruined the guy's life on a whim?Also Post-Flashpoint also has her get mad at Bruce going "no, I won't mentally screw up my clients to make more money"
>>153632553TTurned? BTAS implied that Harley was banging Ivy from their first episode together.
