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>ultimate invasion kicks off the universe with an entirely forgettable and mediocre miniseries that was built on lying about 1610 returning
>ultimate black panther is barely changed from 616 and dull as can be
>ultimate x-men is half a year's worth of a mediocre manga stretched out over two years and definitively proves peach can't handle a monthly on-going
>ultimates is nothing but cardboard cut out characters used to push a socialist revolution to the point where even bleeding cool admits that is all it is
>ultimate wolverine is suffer porn slaughtering fan favorites
>ultimate incursion is a terrible miles crossover that exists purely to set up 616's next big event
>ultimate spider-man doesn't live up to its own promises, skips all the character development, and spins in place after the first six issues becoming yet another failed hickman reimagining
>ultimate endgame is a clustered mess killing off more characters and what little good will the ultimate universe has left
>despite all of this it still sold better than 99% of 616
It is kind of crazy to see just how bad of a state Marvel is right now.
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>>153637219
Which characters have died in Ultimate Endgame so far?
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Now that it’s basically over I don’t really see what the point of it all was, at all.
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>>153637424
Give a Hickman a comic Marvel could hype and get people with nostalgia goggles cream their pants
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>>153637424
Same as the midnight line, so Hickman is far away from the canon books
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>>153637369
Peter Parker is the biggest one.
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>>153637424
It was a massive waste of time.
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Any leaks about issue 4?
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>>153638091
Who cares?
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>>153637635
It was soo big for actually pissing off fans. And in a lame way he died too
>"b-but he was stagnating and the theme of Ultimates is that it abhors stagnation"
Nigga I don't care about your attempts to rationalize it. This Ultimate universe is wanking revolutions for the sake of themes.
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>>153638982
What? I'm not reading Ultimate. What are they doing?
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>>153638982
Who's even supposed to replace Peter? Richard has the personality of a puddle and AI Peter is currently under possession of the Maker. Otto certainly doesn't have another spider to give him so i guess we're stuck with Superior Spider-man again?
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>>153639017
Who knows
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>>153638091
Apparently Captain America gets beheaded.
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>>153642325
By who? Deniz Camp’s OC “Reniz Pamp?”
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>>153639017
Literally The Ultimates are a mouthpiece for Deniz. Ultimate Wolverine did more without pretentious preaching

Dude got soo mad he made the Defenders(only in name) to criticize the people that got sick of his revolutionslop

>>153642325
No way. Like sure, him get humiliated by Red Skulls and having to kill Bucky(who as the Grand Skull), it happened and losers ate it up by saying "Bucky represents the real America"
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>>153642362
Idk, probably the Maker or some shit.
>>153642451
It's on a reddit thread on the ultimate subreddit from a guy who has read it I don't know what to tell you.
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>>153642325
Damn.
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Should've went the Absolute Batman route. Especially for Spidey. All they did was appeal to the usual old nerds, rather than try anything new to get the younger generations interested like OG Ultimate did.
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>>153642325
Okay.
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Eh, ultimates, x-men and spider-man are good.



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