Whose the best?
show batman destroying a street
>>153662923Green Arrow.
>>153662923You already know
>>153662923In terms of general powers it's Spider-Man, preptime bullshit puts Batman way above the rest.
>>153662962He lost to Shocker
someone do chudthebuilder holding a chimp skull
>>153662986>the suit that death battle didn't give Bruce while they make Bruce fight all Tony's stuff>IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED!>if it didn't matter why not add it?
>>153662923There's no such thing as a street level superhero. Everyone eventually ends up fighting aliens, supernatural creatures and other superpowered lunatics.
>now we pretend to not know what street level meanssomething something leftist discourse
>>153663014They didn't add it because it would have mattered. That suit shits on Tony and could break the source wall
>>153663131That makes the fact Bruce can't tard wrangle a faggot clown even more pathetic.
>>153663131Wow. Wall level.
batwank and batgod is terrible and ruins the crux of what batman is supposed to be
>>153662923Spider-man is not actually street level.
>>153663131>can make a mech that breaks the foundation of reality >yet still gets beaten, captured, and raped by some fat deformed gangster with an umbrella and a guy with MPD and third-degree burns on half his body
>>153663622I find it funny that the artist even bothered to give Black Bolt a speech bubble in the first place.
>>153662923probably danny the street
>>153662923'Mazing Man
>>153663792My man
The gargoyles for me, big sexy monster people that instinctively want to protect me? Sign me up.
>>153663622this is literally just Spider-Man's opinionand a lot of these placements point to his opinion not very reliable
>>153664453*not being very reliable, pardon my esl
>>153663072That's just shit-tier writing tho
>>153663131Wow, it's almost approaching the level of the phoenix buster then
>>153662923Anytime they feel inauthentic, they all try to live more like Daredevil.
>>153662923>as a characterMost street-level characters aren't really characters. Spider-Man and early Cassandra stories, maybe. There's also Moon Guy, but I don't know him very well.
>>153662923Peter, duhBruce jobs to normal people despite being cleared for space duty.
>>153665479>Moon GuyHe fits here when he's mostly schizo and ambiguously making up his god and supernatural endowment. When Khonshu is definitely real he can be an Avengers threat.
>>153664453This was Marvel's official strength ranking at the time. Spider-man's never been true street level. He always had crazy strength and speed feats.
>>153662923Doesn't Peter spend most of his time fighting city-level threats?
>>153665620It is LITERALLY, in-universe, just Spider-Man's opinion on how strong other people are, it's written on the fucking page. These rankings even contradict what the handbooks were saying at the time about the strength levels (as inaccurate and all over the place those as as well), contradict what Peter did and say in the actual comics (picrel) and you even see charactera included cussing out Peter for being retarded or saying he has never even met them.Spider-Man is not on the same strength level as Colossus, Silver Surfer, She-Hulk, Valkyrie or Goliath (and in fact, most of them are not on the same power level either). A good chunk of motherfuckers in "heavyweight" class (Thing, Namor, Black Bolt, arguably Thundra and Vision on maximum density) belong in the superheavyweight class and the comics supported that by having them have even and competetitive fights against folks in that class even at the time (Namor vs Hulk and Hercules, Thing vs Hulk and Wonder Man, Black Bolt vs Hulk, Vision vs Wonder Man, etc.). She-Hulk and Colossus should have been heavyweights, Surfer in superheavies, and I'm fairly sure the bottom two classes are also all kinds of messed up.
>>153663622Pretty sure this is a physical strength ranking and not actual strength of power in general. I would say that Spidey is actually being a bit generous with some of these rankings
>>153666028he spends most of his time fighting people that could take over a small nation if they just stopped being stupid about how to use their powers, and stopped being so butthurt about being called named that as soon as they get free they pursue revenge against the masked asshole that called them names
>>153666298Rhino's a Hulk villain. Sandman and Hydro-Man are Thor tier if they don't show up together. What was that comic where Doctor Octopus was couping a third world state and lost his shit about Spider-Man being there instead of waiting for him to turn it into resources to attack New York again?
>>153666405>Rhino's a Hulk villainRhino is also notoriously inconsistent. Most of the times Rhino appears in Spider-Man comics he is clearly not operating on the same levels he does when he appears in Hulk books. And even in Spider-Man books he swings from "Spider-Man can just punch him out or break his armor if he tries" to "Spider-Man in powered-up armor can't even budge his fucking THUMB despite trying his hardest and someone's life being on the line">Sandman and Hydro-Man are Thor tier if they don't show up togetherThe Sandman thing might have some ground under it seeing how Quicksand, who is basically a female Sandman, has went toe to toe with Thor more than once, and Flint himself have tussled with the likes of Hulk and Thing a fair amount, but Hydro-Man had never been that dangerous. And the same inconsistency principle that applies to Rhino goes for Sandman as well, frankly.
>>153666531Hydroman is just under Electro on the scale of "His powers are broken as fuck he's just too uneducated to realize it"
>>153666213Nigga, he can lift a train car. How the fuck is he not in the right category in your mind?
>>153666213He beat the shit out of Titania, who is a Shulkie villain.
>>153662923Daredevil. I like the blind gimmick.
>>153668489>just casually throws a woman through a fucking wallmy sides>>153668498>I like the blind gimmick.a blind man that can "see" with his super powers is just stupid
>>153665620>That last dialogue boxFucking Hell... how long was OMD adter this?
>>153662923Black Lantern Azrael, obviously! Just look at how he delivers these filthy sinners from damnation by giving their souls over to Nekron, Lord of the Unliving!
>>153664512You are right we could just write street level aliens
>>153662923He could arrest them all (except Spider-Man lol)
>>153668955There has never been a batman and the judge crossover?
>>153666298That's kinda a running theme about Spidey and his main rouges. A lot are insanely powerful and have incredible potential but some significant flaw holds them back from achieving that
>>153668974there has been several
>>153668974There have been and Batman got arrested within five minutes of arriving in MC1
>>153662923BatGOS solos
>>153663622this doesn't prove your point because avengers are in all the tiers
>>153669066Wardrobe infraction?
It amuses me whenever people wank Peter into being anything more than building level because he's "always holding back" when they're really just using massive outliers as his baseline.>zomg he can punch off Scorpions's jawNice, not like that defeats the whole point of Scorpion being a villain that Spider-Man cannot defeat with brute strength or anything.
>>153663131TRVTH
>>153668468because other motherfuckers in this category can lift buildings>>153668489He beat her by dancing around her due to superior speed and then throwing her off a cliff. The fight made it clear that Titania had him outclassed in strength and it was not a physical contest. And that's not even mentioning that Titania was a rookie who got her powers like 2 days ago at that point.For every time Spidey punches out of his weight class you can find 4 times when he gets his shit rocked by Cap or Daredevil or Wolverine or whoever the fuck.
>>153662923Daredevil's the best because he's the only one that really knows who the bad guys are.
>>153668577Yeah when someone has super durability you can just chuck em through stuff and not have to worry about it
>>153663622True, but he makes a point to pull his punches whenever he can. Until he needs to get serious, all his fights are basically him love tapping random goons and thugs. Cant be the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man if he goes around punching holes in folks left and right
>>153662923Punisher (Dixon)Punisher MAX (Ennis)Foolkiller (Gerber)Batman (Miller: TDKR)
>>153663622Spider-man aims to stick to heroing on the street level. But street level really doesn't correlate to power when fuckers like Hawk Eye regularly work in teams dealing with global threats.
>>153663622The fuck would he do about ghost rider
>>153662923>Deadpool>Street level
>>153663622>Wolverine>Bottom tier"Spider-Man's opinion" or not, fucking what?
>>153672310Wolverine doesn't have super-strength, to the best of my knowledge.Strength from lugging around his heavy skeleton? Yea, sure, but that's not super.
