>>153665437
I don't know if your trying to start a culture war or east vs west thread but its literally just the idea of a direct book to animation pipeline with the original author being able to make tweaks.
Something so foreign to the production side pf the western market that it seems like magic.

>>153665437
>takes way too fucking long for 8 episodes a season
Technically it's like the equivalent of 16 anime episodes because the general runtime is around 48 minutes.

>>153665472
most of that is filler and music segments

>>153665463
I agree with OP’s point about the production time and the decades old material though.
If the point is to promote new Books/Manga, then you need to adapt new ongoing material, and adapt it fast enough to run concurrently.
Idk maybe it will change in the future, but for current authors the propsects don’t look good if they’ll only adapt highly succesful decades-old books.

"We have anime at home" vibes.

>>153665437
> >takes way too fucking long for 8 episodes a season
unc thinks this is still 1998 and we get 52 episode seasons yearly lmao

>>153665437
>takes way too fucking long for 8 episodes a season

Should all comic cartoon only be 13 episodes long and then end because only like 3% of them maybe gets another season years down the line which is the norm? Shit like Naruto, One Piece etc. are not how vast majority of anime operates

>>153665437
>"manga to anime"
>actually means he'll pave way to mining all the old comic books, while the current ones remain shit
talk about finite resource. Not to mention people are fatigued by usual capeshit. Young people don't want captn Underwear-over-spandex to fight Dr Mustache-twirl in between berating you about intersectionality or w/e. It's gay. People would watch a feature length movie about something like Hellboy Vs the Crooked Man, but there's not that many brands of this in American comic and industry hacks would never abandon their own circle for Franco-Belgian IPs.

Discussion of anime is also a lot less intrusive.
Stop fucking making invincible threats you have like 5 holy shit.

>>153665723
>People would watch a feature length movie about something like Hellboy Vs the Crooked Man

Not according to box office numbers

>>153665437
>spends most of its money on celebs
Actually, that sounds exactly like anime.

>>153665806
netflix is not anime

>>153665437
Anime is based and made by a country that loves their people and invests in the arts

Kirkman is a woke boomer who seethes about America while writing capeshit. There is nothing anime about this

>>153665437
Right but in order to get there you need alto start at the very simple premise of “direct adaptation of comic book source material with simple tweaks”

>>153665967
>tweaks
is that what you call making it worse

>>153665437
>relies on celeb VA clout instead of seiyuus
Got a chuckle out of me OP
People as dumb as you should probably need a legal guardian

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>>153666000
Which anime is spending 2M per episode so a celebrity can say two lines as Glup Shitto in the background solely so they can pad their cast list promo image

Meanwhile Japan has dedicated voice actors with the same pull who can actually do the job right and without ballooning the budget

>>153665437
>>budget is ridiculously huge
You'd think, but Studio SEK were subcontracted to animate this show.

Oh man I sure hope kirkman reimagines all of my favorite comics as $500M per episode barely animated shitshows but fucking simu liu voices Tony Chu or some shit.

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>>153665463
>its literally just the idea of a direct book to animation pipeline with the original author being able to make tweaks
So much for that.

>>153665437
well, they're just saying they would produce more action cartoon series that will be somewhat relevant on social media, based on comic books, and animated by asians animators.
and you know, that's like...anime.

>>153666044
So they're still paying celebrities, just paying them less because they're minor celebrities
Retard

>>153666149
I mean they kind of have to if this show is to run for eight seasons. There simply won't be enough content for the final two, Thragg War/Robot running Earth could easily just be a single season.

>>153666172
seiyus don't get paid millions for bit roles

>>153666044
>>153666172
I think Demon Slayer's cast is actually stacked with Japanese celebrities but the industry budgets are very standardized so they aren't given millions of dollars for simply being in the show like what America usually does.

>>153665437
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5GaE1SkeXOM
Can you believe this dumb retarded cuck thinks he deserves an apology for the corner-cutting piece of shit that is this show?

>>153666185
They're also not just voice actors and are typically also models, idols, their celebrity status being an inherent part of the marketing of whatever they feature in and get paid to do live appearances at promotional events for whatever they feature in

>>153666191
no fucking way
what a colossal fucking retard

>>153666197
Yeah, seiyuus are rooted in idol culture in some ways and are entirely different than western celebrity culture. Being a decent person is seen as a requirement over there.

>>153666044
Are you seriously pretending seiyuus in Japan aren’t glorified celebrities?

>>153666210
>a decent person
lols
more like being a hyperreal simulation of a person that is simultaneously completely harmless and wholesome while maintaining the illusion of sexual availability to fans in the early years of their career
it's so transparently corporate, imagine praising this shit

>>153666224
They really aren't. It isn't even close. They don't sell movies or make them to the degree our degenerates do.

>>153666172
Its two completely different things

Why are you trying so hard to defend celebrities getting paid millions for small roles?

>>153666210
>Being a decent person is seen as a requirement over there.

The idol culture is so sick people have to actively hide their marital and relationship status because of how psychotic the fans are

>>153666233
the irony

>>153666233
>no you can't just have morals
You can, stop being a degenerate

>>153666233
Why are we talking about Taylor Swift?

>>153666238
I know your retarded little brain can only conceive of skub and anti skub but I don't need to defend anything to point out to seiyuu culture being just a smaller version of celebrity culture, just with less money involved
just like OP didn't need to suck off japan to complain about america
crazy!

>>153666259
>seiyuu culture being just a smaller version of celebrity culture,
Why are you acting like the west's celebrity bullshit is some kind of universal thing in general?

>>153666259
False equivalence is a logical fallacy, you use these because you're a retard with no actual defence as to why Amazon paying millions to celebrities is a good thing

We have actual voice actors in the west

>>153666283
>We have actual voice actors in the west
Do we? Do we really?

>>153666283
You didn't even read the post huh
well I guess that tracks with the way you argue at invisible things, you probably just watch the words and imagine what they mean

>>153666290
>Tom Kenny
>Frank Welker
>Maruice LaMmarche
>Dee Bradley Baker
>Candi Milo
>Tara Strong
>Billy West
>Charlie Adler
I could keep naming names, but the list goes on...

>>153666246
>morals
>in the crime infested, degenerate shithole that is japan
lole
they're just corporate dicksuckers that have been beaten into submission to accept everything their corporate overlords tell them to accept.

>>153666306
lol
lmao

>>153666277
You are the one acting like that retard
you read me saying "celebrity culture" and your mind immediately jumps to the american model, thinking that's what I'm talking about.

>>153666332
>>153666172

>>153666332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_hwFSEdPs

>>153666317
Alright, if you insist.
>Jim Cummings
>Tabitha St. Germain
>Cory Doran
>Scott McCord
>Jamie Watson
>Bill Fagerbakke
>Clancy Brown
>Mr. Lawrence
>Carolyn Lawrence
It's safe to say we've got no shortage of VAs here in the west.

>>153666306
>>153666376
man, nothing like hearing the same 17 people over and over again.

>>153666384
That's still more variety than most English-dubbed anime.

>>153666306
>>Frank Welker
His existence alone erases all debate raging on about Americaan having voice actors. Dude has a CV that would make any Jap blush with shame.

>>153666391
>English-dubbed
....Anon

>>153666391
or anime period

>>153666396
What? It's true, I hear fucking Eggman and Amy's 4Kids voices in Ratatoing!

>>153665806
?? Va in anime get paid a lot but still way worse compared to american vas.

>>153666408
Because that was done in New York, and that pool is notoriously small, even to the rest of the VA pools except for Paris.

>>153666537
I won't lie when I say hearing Mike Pollock dubbing foreign live-action was the most jarring experience I've ever witnessed.

>>153666568
that sounds horrifying

>>153665641
Why are you mocking him?

>>153665437
I would gladly re-watch Walking Dead if they started over with an animated series with the original cast doing voices and Kirkman more directly involved

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>>153666611
>makes it worse with unnecessary race changes

>>153665686
No, comic cartoons should get cancelled before they ever even get off the ground because shitty companies like Netflix want to twist the source material into their own retarded vision., like Bone, The Goon, and Elfquest.

>>153665437
>seiyuus
Literally just means 'voice actor', you weeaboo clown. And you still pluralized it in English to be especially stupid.

>>153666662
anime also means animation but we all still use it to refer to japanese animation
dumbass

>>153666233
>more like being a hyperreal simulation of a person that is simultaneously completely harmless and wholesome while maintaining the illusion of sexual availability to fans in the early years of their career
So...a celebrity?

>>153665723
>Young people don't want captn Underwear-over-spandex to fight Dr Mustache-twirl in between berating you about intersectionality or w/e. It's gay.
Yet Invincible is popular

>>153665437
I don't like it, part of the reason I don't watch anime is because most of them aren't original stories they are based on already existing material.

>>153666744
There are a lot of original anime/anime based on children novel(which are the best types of animated series)

Invincible is better than any anime ever made

>>153666611
Same

>>153666611
The show was good because it was further from what Kirkman wanted

He's a hack anon, a rich, woke boomer

>>153666976
Boku no pico had more frames than the average invincible episode lmao.

>>153667010
you clearly don't remember the absolute slog season 2 and so on were

>>153666714
You're response reads as sarcastic but I think that's that anons point... Seiyus aren't just uwuu voice actors, they're celebrities with a cross promotional strategy structure to their career involving modeling and singing.

>>153666210
LMFAAAAAAO

>>153667015
And why would I watch that over invincible? Why would I give a shit about any anime over invincible?

>>153667078
Because invincible is zoomer slop while BnP is peak millennial kino.

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>>153667120
Anime literally cant be kino. It can be cuck/cringe shit though

>>153666661
Tatami Galaxy, Ghost in the Shell, FMA. Perfect Blue, Paprika, Lupin III, Berserk, Gankutsuou, etc. all take liberties with the source material and change things around

>>153667192
All of those exist and were created, they didn't get cancelled before they even got off the ground because the Hollywood adapters were insecure about not being able to turn them into gay shit for zoomers.

I think invincible is a good example on how much we are lacking in action based shows, invincible has very mid action compared to anime but is the only animated show that isn't anime with action to watch these days everything else is shows about feelings or crude humour

>>153667242
>everything else is shows about feelings or crude humour
...uh, anon?

>>153667188
Mark's gf literally fucks a black alien guy behind his back. His other gf marries a human black guy. I am sure you will enjoy watching your cuckslop kek.

>>153667242
It's too bad all a action anime are also just crude

>>153666172
They're not on the payroll because they're celebrities, they're on the payroll to voice act

>>153667287
Mark was better off dumping that first bitch anyway, she was a nosy nag.

>>153667242
>everything else is shows about feelings or crude humour
Saying this in an Invincible thread is fucking hilarious.

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>>153667287
Mark has more sex than any anime character in recent time lmao

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>>153667310
Why do ESL latinxes like this latch on to cartoons and comics so much nowadays?

>>153667333
>he says while being esl/Latina himself

>>153667305
>>153667288
>>153667283
My point is that there's no more variety, back in the day you had like 10 action shows to choose from meanwhile these days only invincible is around if you want to see characters punching each other without going the anime route

>>153667353
We had primal too...
Just wait im sure there'll be something that also isnt garbage like that dmc show.

>>153667352
I'm black, actually.
But that doesn't answer my question.
Why are you latinxes so obsessed with this stuff?
Shit, I LIVE in this country and I'm not even as obsessed with this shit as you are, and you don't even live here.

>>153667310
>has more sex
>has to post an old comic
Doesn't change the fact that he is a cuck lol.

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>>153667375
Doesn't change the fact that mark fucks more than the protagonist from ttgl. Something you weebs say is the pinnacle of anime.

>>153667389
TTGL is ok but it's not the pinnacle of anime. I can post anime mcs that have fucked as much as mark(and actual sex not rapeshit) and didn't get cucked. You chose to worship a cucked son of a bitch.

>>153665437
You're overthinking it, you dumb retard. What he means is he wants America to have the same relationship with comics that Japan has with manga.
Basically what he wants is nonstop shonenslop adaptions(or superslop). Imagine if we got a comic adaptations of Nu52 when it was just starting out. Terrible. It'll also never happen because instead of a "COMICS TO ANIMATION" pipeline, America had a "COMICS TO LIVE ACTION" pipeline.

>>153667310
>had to make her rape him
what a fag

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>>153667431
I actually worship his rapist. Who is also more hot than any anime girls in recent time

Readcomiconline has done irreparable damage to the comic and cartoon community by allowing all of these retarded third worlders easy access to western comics.

>>153667458
>I actually worship his rapist
That is better.
>Who is also more hot than any anime girls in recent time
Nah, the Virgin Punk bitch actually showed her tits which makes her superior.

The weebs are crashing out again

>>153667242
Hard to believe at one point we had
>Spectacular Spider-Man
>Young Justice
>Generator Rex
>Avengers EMH
>Sym-Bionic Titan
>Wolverine and the X-Men
>Samurai Jack
>TMNT 2003
>Ben 10 Alien Force
>Green Lantern TAS
>Motorcity
>Thundercats reboot
>The Batman
All airing around the same 5-10 year period and it wasn't even considered a particularly good era at the time

Now we have stuff like Vox Machina, The Mighty Nein, Monkie Kid, Primal but they all feel scattered to the wind, with no following or established release schedule, I'm not sure if I should count Netflixslop like
>DOTA Dragon's Blood
>Devil May Cry
>Dragon Age Absolution
>Castlevania
>Creature Commandos
>Tales of TMNT
And other stuff that only gets attention for how bad and mishandled it is

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>>153667485
>virgin punk bitch
Dunno who that is but anissa mogs her

>>153665473
It is not. It's 1:1 scene by scene from the comics

>>153667500
Is vox machina the comic about an elected major that's also a superhero?

I remember that comic being really good or at least the art was

>>153667506
She is from a recent ova and she actually showed her tits which is what Anissa should do as well.

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>>153667574
>an elected major

>>153667500
>Hard to believe at one point we had
>>Spectacular Spider-Man
>>Young Justice
>>Generator Rex
>>Avengers EMH
>>Sym-Bionic Titan
>>Wolverine and the X-Men
>>Samurai Jack
>>TMNT 2003
>>Ben 10 Alien Force
>>Green Lantern TAS
>>Motorcity
>>Thundercats reboot
>>The Batman
Man, looking at this list reminds me of exactly why I started getting more into anime. These shows are all better than most of what we get now I guess but damn things have been rough for a long time.

>>153667458
>>153667506
Anissa marries a black man in the comics

>>153667591
But can she kill a ragnar?

>>153667500
I'm still pissed about how they utterly ruined Young Justice.
It's crazy how nowadays half the action cartoons we get are just shitty video game adaptations made by retards.

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>>153667595
I was thinking of ex machina

One of the 10th best visual novels of that year

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>>153667618
Guess what race anon is?

>>153667639
Hispanic I assume, like most of Invincible's fanbase.

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This recent toon girl mogs all modern anime bitches too

>>153667521
lol
lmao

>>153667657
White boys can't relate to school guy gets a hot redhead girlfriend

>>153667670
I don't think white guys watch cartoons anymore, since that's third world behavior these days.

>>153667657
I am black lmao
Which is why I don't get people being mad at anissa for marring a black guy. Like they expect me to be racist to my own race.

>>153667689
Maybe black Hispanic, you're definitely an ESL.

>>153667639
He started by cuck posting about Gl so I would assume he is an indian.

>>153667689
They expect you to be loyal to your own race

>>153667703
No. I'm pretty sure I'm just black. Wtf anon

>>153667704
You followed up the cuck posting by seething with more cuck posting. Mark at least has a kid with his girlfriend. Unlike Simon from ttgl. So mark wins.

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>Invincible thread is just brown third worlders shitposting at each other
The absolute state of nu-/co/.

>>153667708
But invincible is a story about being able to find love regardless of traditional values. Nolan wouldnt have become a traitor to the viltrumites if he had stayed loyal to them instead of choosing Debbie. Likewise Anissa would learn empathy and try and succeed in finding love herself. You won't see that in anime.

>>153667756
Subverting traditional values is a kosher feature I'm glad isn't part of anime

>>153665723
The fatigue comes from the fact that capeshit doesn’t seem to have any real progression, ending or point, and Invincible at least ends.

>>153667738
>if you don't agree with me you're a 3rd worlder

>>153667688
They are being groomed for the race war, they have to watch bbc porn and chinese people being shitty drivers

>>153666384
J.K. Simmons is in that boat of hearing the same people again and again, and I don't see you complaining about it. The same with Mark Hammil.

>>153667771
Yeah because if anime tried to do anything new it would flop. Because weebs are gay and retarded.

>>153667728
Are you the black anon?
>more cuck posting
You can't scream "cuckshit" when you worship a series that is just cuckshit.
>Mark at least has a kid with his girlfriend
>MY WIFE'S SON!!!!!!!!!!
>So mark wins.
Wins what? Do you think everything is a fight or something?

>>153667777
You can barely type the language, you're obviously a third worlder.

>>153667756
>>153667791
>You won't see that in anime.
Are you serious? Genuinely? There is this little anime called Now and Then, Here and There that has even more fucked up stuff regarding acceptance.

>>153667791
>the only way to do anything new is to subvert western culture
Hello Moshe

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>>153667792
You didn't even watch the show at this point im figuring out. You know mark gets eve pregnant with his kid right? While Simon doesnt even have a kid with his wife. Then he lets his wife die dispite having the power to bring her back.

>>153667856
>You know mark gets eve pregnant with his kid right?
Yes but that literally doesn't make him a non-cuck. It's even more laughable that his wife chose another person to fuck besides him. That's by definition cuckshit. Also answer the damn question, are you the blackanon?

>>153667832
But I bet it also is boring slop that only weebs would give a shit about.

>>153667786
what the fuck are you even talking about?
when did i say any of that?

>>153667882
Eve goes on to be immortal and so she can fuck mark forever until the heat death of the universe. Meanwhile the blue nigga that got to tap eve like once is dead forever and irrelevant. Simon never has sex ever in his show with anybody. Then goes off to leave society forever and thats his "win". Mark infinitely folds every modern anime protag.

>>153667915
Answer the question.
>Meanwhile the blue nigga that got to tap eve like once is dead forever and irrelevant.
>i-it's ok because he only got cucked once
FUCKING LMAO, you can't be serious. Please tell me you don't have the same attitude irl. If a bitch cucks you just leave her.
>Mark infinitely folds every modern anime protag
Folds them at the cuck contest or whatever terminology you fags use in your power scaling general.

>>153667887
It's millennial kino like BnP. Zoom zooms won't understand.

>>153668009
Millennials had a whole copypasta warning people NOT to watch BnP, though.

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>>153667950
Funny you think about eve as just "some bitch" says a lot more about you than me. Eve and Anissa Are more attractive than any weeb anime bitch. Id fuck em both dispite them not being virgins. Which is something that I know you weebs find scarlegous.

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>>153668020
>scarlegous
You zoomer ESLs are a fucking riot.

>>153668020
>eve as just "some bitch"
>no reading comprehension
I was talking about real life scenarios.
> Eve and Anissa Are more attractive than any weeb anime bitch.
Not even close, they are often drawn in weird ugly ways. They should have kept 1 artists for the comic.
>Id fuck em both dispite them not being virgins
Fuck them but don't marry them.

>>153668019
>he takes copypastas seriously
tsk tsk

is there no on-going cmic now that could be adapted to a cartoon

>>153668268
I hate fairy land would be fun

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>>153668268
those dark fantasy french ones, the orcs and goblins/dwarves/elves shared universe could be okay but they're kind of an anthology series and honestly I think the actual comics are very middling.
It's hard to think of something that is new and ongoing and isn't dead. I would have said Chew's sequel (I think it was called Chu?) but I think that's dead.

>>153668101
>real life scenarios
Its weebs like you that make me sick the most. Equating everything in fiction to rl stuff is retarded and gay.

>>153668308
god no

>>153668355
I was just trying to help you. If you keep that mentality irl you might come to regret it.

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>>153668398
>you might regret fucking and marrying a girl because.. uh
You're retarded and gay nigga shut your bitch ass up

>>153667715
So you are just retarded, what an unexpected turn of events.

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>>153668465
At least I'm not retarded and a weeb. So I win in the end>>153668465

>>153667913
Are you dense? Simmons and Hamil work as voice actors is perennial and ubiquitous, just like the list of names you were disparaging. And yet you don't throw the same insults against their performance.

>>153668619
what?

>>153668268
Radiant Black would be pretty cool but there’s so many crossovers and other comics in that universe it might be hard.
Ghost machine could work but that stuff is also boring.

>>153666149
Honoring the tradition for long running animus to have filler, but doing it for the opposite reason. Animu did it because the show was airing concurrently with new mango issues and needed to buy time for the author while doind an insane no breaks schedule. This is just "well we wanted it to be longer"

>>153665437
Voice acting and dialogue can carry a show just look at bojack horsemen

>>153665506
Yeah but that's also where you run into a major hiccup. There's a reason so many anime air in 13-26 episode seasons every few years
Because otherwise the anime outpaces the book and therefore has to keep going.
The toei problem.
The Japanese industry managed to streamline and synchronize this super hard . Like, they have fucking pre-production timed to the manga's release schedule.

>>153668663
Honestly, I'd rather they just make the show shorter and focus on making the animation less shitty.
Putting out 8 hour-long episodes per year isn't as impressive when 2 of those episodes are basically pointless.

>>153665686
Tbh if they made those 13 episodes worthwhile then yes.
>all comic cartoon
Most comic cartoons are episodic with a few arcs and they almost never adapt the comics so I don't get what's even the discussion here.

>>153668815
we barely even got 8
which aren't really animated

Kirkman has literally no other comics to do this with. The best he can do is an Invincible spinoff, but to what end? Invincible wraps literally everything up to the point that the teases at the end seem like in-jokes more than anything.

>>153668912
>TWD cartoon remake with the live actions actors looking shittier than either show

>>153668912
>Kirkman has literally no other comics to do this with

Thief of Thieves, Brit, Astonishing Wolf-Man…

>>153668912
He REALLY wants to make an animated The Walking Dead adaptation closer in line with the comics but AMC has the rights and not him
Also, the headline is misleading
He's not out there kickstarting some big movement he's just expecting the industry to push for more animated adaptations and even then Skybound has plenty non-Kirkman books to adapt

>>153668994
No one cares about any of those comics, even among comic fans.

>>153669063
Well make them care

Radiant Black
Wanted
Fear Agent
Incognito
Planetary


Would all make for great shows.

8 50 minute episode seasons released two years in a row. shit on it all you want but there is no way that's slow production compared to the rest of the industry.

>>153669585
They shit out better shows than Invincible every three months over in Japan.

>>153669656
>they shit out slop shows worse than invincible
We know

>>153669684
coping, seething and dilating

>>153669700
Name these "3" shows you claim are better than invincible. You cant because they dont exist. None of them are actually popular or have the quality you claim.

>>153669713
??? Bleach, One Piece, and Jujutsu Kaisen. All these shows are currently in production. Do you live under a rock?

>>153669585
>the rest of the industry.
What industry?
There's basically no cartoons coming out of the industry right now, I think the only thing coming out this month is MAWS.

>>153669738
he's pretending to be retarded

>>153669738
I didnt know people actually watched those sorry

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>>153669738
What makes them better than invincible again? Those shows all sucked and I did try to watch em.

>>153669778
>>153669759
Nta but Invincible isn't anything special in terms of writing. It has a few good moments but that's all, it's exactly like shonenshit so yeah.

>>153669713
>invincible
>quality
Lmao, Boku no pico is still better

>>153669811
It literally has concepts in it they admitted would never be from a Japanese thing. >>153667771

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In an ideal scenario we'd have at minimum 6 animated adaptations that
>Aren't Invincible
>Aren't Marvel/DC
>Aren't licenseshit
>Are influenced by the source material and don't deviate heavily both in story and in artstyle
>Are of different genres
>Are popular enough to maintain regular discussion at minimum and not get cancelled early
>Get released with enough time and workforce to ensure optimal quality (with half of the shows releasing when the others are on hiatus)
>Come out at a healthy pace where when one of the shows ends, another can "take its place"
>Are only made because the creators WANTED an animated adaptation to begin with (if they wanted live action or no adaptation at all, that should be respected)
Bonus
>At least one of them is adapting a currently running comic

>>153669738
these shows do substantially more than 400 minutes a year?

>>153669831
If that was the case why doesnt it have a million threads about it made on its board? Unlike invincible which has 24/7 threads of people talking about it.

>>153665835
>Anime is based and made by a country that loves their people and invests in the arts
Not the case, if that were the case everyone would be doing 1942-1947 Tex Avery and 1941-1946 Bob Clampett to the T, instead all we're getting is Filmation with Bambi eyes because theres no one keeping the country in check.
>>153667615
None of those shows were any good is the thing.
>>153668688
And that is a bad thing.
>>153669738
Even worse.
>>153669713
Tiny Toon Adventures, Animaniacs and Freakazoid.

>Famicom showed up
Oh god, time for the REAL autism to begin.

>>153669852
JJK and Bleach put out 24 episodes (550 minutes) per year compared to Invincible's 16 equivalent.
One Piece puts out 36+ episodes per year.

>>153669832
Uhm >>153667832

>>153669896
I still don't think a cartoon getting out 400 minutes yearly is something worth shitting on. it's acceptable at worst.

>>153669847
Tell that to Japan, also...

>No 3DCG, everything is hand drawn
>No Calarts
>No Spumco like designs
>No fake anime
>No Filmation with Bambi eyes
>No stiff and sterile designs
>No limited animation
>No pose to pose animation
>No UPA like designs
>At least 30 piece orchestra doing the music that has it's own score per each episode.
>Animation is done on 1s 100% of the time.
>Tex Avery/Bob Clampett of GTFO

>>153669945
Shut the fuck up Famicom

>>153669857
>If that was the case why doesnt it have a million threads about it made on its board?
It had so many that it got banned. It was just that based. The shonen the other guy has mentioned have had way more threads than invincible.

>>153669937
Ehh, it's nothing special compared to what we used to get.
JLU put out 39 episodes in 2 years, and its animation takes a giant steamy shit on Invincible's.

>>153669924
That show looks like shit

>>153665437
seiyuus are basically A list celebs in Japan

>>153669998
They don't soak as much money as B list celebrity VAs in america.

Every single anime looks like shit and has shit writing compared to invincible

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You literally wont get this kinda thrill from an anime. Blood and fights with emotion and weight.

>>153670019
You really think this is proper bait? Come on, not enough people care about invincible especially after the problems it had for this to work.

>>153670053
I'm not baiting because I dont give a single fuck about the shit japan makes

Pico from Boku no Pico is better written than any character in invincible

>>153669998
They're not, none of them have the same craft as Mel Blanc and June Foray, let alone Daws Butler and Don Messick.

America however does with Jim Cummings and Nancy Cartwright.

>>153670103
He also gets laid more.

>>153670134
Lmao, true.

Weebs would rather hype up gay erotica than straight superhero stuff

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>>153668308
I like IHF but the best time to make a cartoon was in the late 2010s when that comic still had some integrity and [as] was a viable option.

>>153670268
I think it should just get one to get one.

>>153670047
>dude melodrama and gore lmao

>>153670533
Something you can't get from japan these days

>>153670834
If you only watch shonenslop, sure

>>153672232
So what they recommended as the alternative to invincible? >>153669738
You admit that japan has no equivalent to what invincible provides.

>>153672259
Invincible is shonenslop. All of those have melodrama shit as well lol.

>>153665437
Step one cut corners on animation!

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>anime like initial d put in a song
>it enhance the experience and heighten the show
>Invincible and some western cartoon use ethnic hip hop, rap, and some other music from some no name westerner
>It's shit and made the watching experience worse
Explain this retardation

>>153672259
Anime has a dedicated drama genre and plenty of gore in seinen series, or even certain shonen series like Chainsaw Man or Jigokuraku, instead of having the tonal whiplash of a cheesy badly written superhero story with random gore and violence

The Reze movie is better than anything in Invincible on basically every front

>>153672334
The song was made for the scene. in the other case, they think it will just establish a certain tone for the scene.

>>153665437
I hate Americans calling thier shows and comics anime and mange to trick Normalfags.

>>153672292
Nobody in shonen have sex or pretty women so youre wrong.

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>>153673059
Normies don't fall for it as they hate it too.

In short, this.

>>153672351
The thing is those stories also arent very fun and just dark for the sake of it. Invincible is fun and even funny at times.

>>153670047
The animation really fell from a clip since season 2.

>>153673114
Invincible is mean-spirited, written terribly, has no likable characters, and is full of preaching and agenda, not only is it not entertaining it's barely even tolerable

>>153673092
Hey, if you're gonna LARP as an American, could you at least learn the difference between "have" and "has?"

>>153673059
Invincible never called itself anime you idiot

>>153673286
I am more American than you cocksucker. :)

>>153673279
It has more likeable characters than any modern anime.

>>153672292
No. Invincible is telenovela-tier. There simply isn't anything like the pointless abortion arc in shonenslop.

You're not going to find a single anime that brings to the table what invincible does. Because its simply impossible for japan to make anything similar at all. Japan doesn't have American values so they would never be able to even understand what americans want to see.

>>153673370
Bro, you're not American, don't act like you speak for me
.

>>153670533
melodrama and gore could be the alternate title for berserk.

Is it impossible for /co/ to not bitch about anime FOR ONE FUCKING DAY?!?!
Or are all you that ass blasted about the state of the industry, you need to take it out on anime every day.

>>153673385
I know what I want to see. I want happy endings. Men kicking ass. Getting the girl. You think that japan would even consider writing something like that? No. They wouldnt want something that wasnt just bittersweet and making the audience suffer to sit though every episode. Or else they'd have made an anime like that which they cant. Only americans understand that kinda story where heros win and the bad guys lose.

>>153673433
>I know what I want to see.
That's fine, but you're not American, stop acting like you are.

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>>153673429
Good anime does exist, case in point.

>>153673443
I was born in Atlanta Georgia. First movie I saw in theaters was Tarzan in the year 2000. I visited the world trade centers 2 months before 9/11 happened. Suck my nuts bitch.

>>153673429
I think a lot of it is genuinely one Hispanic dude.
Hispanic zoomers seem to be very butthurt about anime these days for some reason.

>>153673491
>Hispanic zoomers seem to be very butthurt about anime
And yet they gokupost in /dbg/ threads? Weird.

>>153673491
We do everything lately

For some reason...

Tarzan was 1999 fuck!

>>153673500
The DBfags don't watch or like anime, they just spam tiktok clips and AIslop memes.

>>153673491
>Hispanics dont like anime
You serious?

>>153673542
Posting memes about something and actually watching and liking it are two different things.
Though honestly, this applies to most zoomers in general, it's like an entire generation of secondaries whose attention spans are so shot that they can only interact with a property via internet memes and 20 second clips.

>>153673525
That explains why all their posts are so out of character. And I don't even watch Dragon Ball!

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>>153665437
Problem is America doesn't really have a manga industry. We just have capeshit.
Manga is like a novel series. A single author telling one big continuous story with unique characters, settings, powers, etc.
Capeshit is just a bunch of recycled stories from lots of different authors with questionable continuity.

If you really want to create a manga-to-anime pipeline in the west, make a cartoon series out of Mistborn or something.
Hell, do a graphic novel adaptation first to storyboard it out.

>>153666224
You can be a celebrity without being paid out the ass and ballooning the cost of a product, that's more of a western thing.

>>153673563
Well I managed to watch fucking pantheon, invincible, blue eyes samurai, primal, scavengers reign, all of wakfu, last man, smiling friends, king of the hill, Futurama, regular show, beavis and butthead and many more. And when I tell you I cant stand anime I mean it.

>>153673668
Who asked?

>>153673613
Chew is capeshit?
Bone is capeshit?
Hate is capeshit?
Elfquest is capeshit?

>>153673687
Post what cartoons you've seen or get the fuck outta co

>>153668020
Holy reddit

>>153673852
Weebs are reddit

>>153668020
Kirkman is such a hack.

>>153665437
>>takes way too fucking long for 8 episodes a season
its more like 16 episodes since they're 40ish minute episodes as opposed to 20ish minutes like most tv anime
also all things considered, invincible comes out at a pretty quick time, basically a yearly release now. its no surprise the show isn't looking great
>>budget is ridiculously huge
>>animation is dogshit anyway
to be fair most anime doesn't have great animation when you focus on your average tv anime
>>relies on celeb VA clout instead of seiyuus
>>spends most of its money on celebs
the VAs in anime don't seem like celebs because you know nothing about anime VAs
>>relies on creators with clout with previous high profile projects (would never get made if not for TWD success)
this happens all the time for anime
>>changes too much about the source material to appease culture warriors
ignoring the culture warrior focus, anime adaptations aren't always one to one. look at bleach
>>adapts finished decades old material
they aren't always adapting the newest anime on the block


i know you hate Invincible but come on dude

>>153667242
everyone wants Invincible to look like JJK but forget that Invincible gets a new season every year while JJK seasons are 3 years in between
>but the budget!
you can't throw money to change time

>>153674120
Anon, JJK has had 59 episodes since fall 2020.
Invincible has had the equivalent of 66 episodes since spring 2021.
And this is with JJK's animation studio (MAPPA) working on a bunch of other anime and movies alongside JJK, all of which also look better than Invincible.

>>153674218
The thing is the story of jjk is complete ass compared to invincible. With no likeable characters and little to no stakes. Nobody talks about jjk as anything but animation. Meanwhile invincible has its story constantly discussed.

>>153674290
Famicom levels of autism on display here.

>>153674316
You think I'm wrong? Go ahead. Say anything good about jjks story. You literally can't.

>>153674347
There's no weird cuckoldry or abortion.

>>153674381
And... nothing else? Damn bro jjk is a barebones slop fest with nothing going on lol.

>>153674395
Like I said, Famicom-tier autism.

>>153674424
Says the guy who can't even say a single thing he actually likes about his slop

>>153674218
Japanese animators are better because they do have more experience in production
but that doesn't mean you should discount the difficulties the west has
>inb4 cope!
yeah it kinda is, but this is the only way for things to get better. don't expect the west to be making shit on the same scale and quality as japan overnight
also jjk still has had a longer production

>>153673732
Exceptions to the rule. Also your average normie has never heard of any of these. A pointless metric maybe, but when convincing a CEO to drop millions into making an animated adaptation it’s a requirement

>>153665437
>relies on creators with clout with previous high profile projects (would never get made if not for TWD success)
I dont even know what TWD stands for.

>>153674569
The Walking Dead

>>153674542
>Exceptions to the rule
Nigga the vast majority of Image, Dark Horse, Boom, etc these days isn't capeshit
>when convincing a CEO to drop millions into making an animated adaptation it’s a requirement
Wytches, Saga, SIKTC, Nights, etc already signed deals for animated series'
If they come out and actually succeed is another story though

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The harsh truth is that western audiences need that celebrity cred in order to watch anything animated, if not for the celebrity backing Invincible would just be another DMC/Pantheon/Scavengers Reign/DOTA/Dragon Age etc that no one gives a shit about, even animated movies bank on celebrity VAs to promote them as something with social credibility to the point the Mario movies and Arcane had to pull the celeb cast stunt despite being one of the most successful game series of all time

You can't really name the last time an animated series got big in the west on quality or premise alone, even the popular anime in the west comes pre-picked by what is already popular in Japan

Live action doesn't have this problem, The Boys only had Karl Urban to lean on Hollywood-cast-wise and still got big on premise alone, if you swapped them and made The Boys animated and kept its actors as the voice cast, but gave the live action Invincible a literally who cast save for one major actor, the animated Boys would be obscure and the live action Invincible would be popular

>>153674684
>You can't really name the last time an animated series got big in the west on quality or premise alone,

Rick and Morty.

>>153667772
>The fatigue comes from the fact that capeshit doesn’t seem to have any real progression, ending or point
Well neither does One Piece or Naruto or Dragon Ball or Bleach when get down to it, they just keep plodding along with random crap until the mangaka gets bored and quits, and then some understudy makes a shitty sequel to squeeze out more bucks

>>153674669
>Nigga the vast majority of Image, Dark Horse, Boom, etc these days isn't capeshit
And no one cares about any of it.
>Wytches, Saga, SIKTC, Nights, etc already signed deals for animated series'
Saga is 100% never happening, you're retarded if you think otherwise.
Frankly, I doubt any of these will actually happen, at best SIKTC might get a Y: The Last Man level adaptation that's absolute dogshit.

>>153674726
>>153674669
Fuck, I didn't mean to put in Saga

>>153674703
That was 12 years ago, what have we gotten since?

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>>153674703
True, that was 13 years ago and it crashed in popularity as soon as it became socially unacceptable cringe after the Szechuan sauce incident, now compare it to anime where every season has half a dozen super popular series on premise/quality alone, and note how it's always Japanese people discovering them, never once has the west picked up on something good but obscure that Japan didn't already make popular

Can you imagine something like Radiant getting a straightforward animated adaptation with normal voice actors and reaching JJK/CSM/KNY levels of popularity in the west? Can you imagine a single late arc from Radiant getting a 2D movie adaptation with no celeb VAs that makes $800M at the box office?

>>153674765
>>153674803
Damn, I'm old. Sorry, I don't follow animation like I used to, so somebody else is going to have to hit you with the new stuff. Invincible may be carrying the adult animation torch right now, so I guess I should put some respect on its name.

>>153674513
This might make sense if the west was actually doing the animation, but it's largely not, the vast majority of the animation is done in South Korea and China and North Korea.

>>153670268
How would it be adapted?

>>153674659
I had no idea those were the same writer, and I would not have guessed from having watched both shows.

>>153675308
TWD's show is abject dogshit compared to the comic. Unironically, two completely different stories. Not even the Invincible shown is as bad in that regard