Leaving aside the executive part and only focusing on his side as a comic book artist. What do you think of Jim Lee's art today? Honestly, I prefer his art from the 90s more than his current style, which is not bad but, I don't know... It doesn't catch my attention like his old art.
The older coloring helps a lot too. He's stayed good for a really long time, just wish he'd picked better writers to work with the last twenty-five years.
I suppose I generally like him but I feel like he often gets saddled with sub par writers. Superman For Tomorrow looked pretty great but it was some of the most pretentious crap I've seen.
>>153674426Dude was hungry for success and pushing himself, now that he's in a position of authority and is basically the new "old guard", he doesn't have the fire in his belly to achieve, so he's just coasting off old successes.I wish he'd do more experimentation, like his inkwash flashbacks in Hush.
>>153674426His art for some reason always gave me a certain "anime" air so to speak, is it because of his asian genes?
>>153674426His current art is bad. Ugly and sloppy.
>153674632kill yourself
>>153674426I would describe his style as iconic, but I sincerily believe his copycats and somedays he himself made people think comic books were lame compared to a Simon Bisley or even Alex Ross, also McFarlane and well almost everyone else of mild fame
>>153674650More or less, but when I see his art I always think "he can do better"
>>153674632Most of the Marvel all-stars that founded Image have/had some anime/manga influence. Both Rob Lielfeld and Todd have been caught swiping manga panels and poses
>>153674426I really do think he's overhyped. His best work was on Punisher.
>>153674714What 0_0
>>153674787It was another time manga panels mean they read dragon ball
>>153674787Batman Year Two has a McFarlane page where the cityscape background is taken straight out of the colorized Akira manga.
>>153674992I forgot this was the age of early photoshop copy pasta
I think digital coloring makes his work a lot less punchy. I would love to see a version of his modern work but colored using traditional techniques for comparison.He is probably my go to for what an archetypal 'comic book style' should look like.
>>153674426I recognize his impact. Brief quotes about the development of Capcom's X-Men Children of the Atom and Marvel Superheroes cite how they referenced the anatomy and designs from the then modern stuff by those like him, McFarlane, etc over other examples they didn't find inspiring, but, yeah, his current stuff doesn't hold the same weight.
>>153674539what the hell why doesn’t he do this more oftenit looks great
>>153677653>what the hell why doesn’t he do this more oftenThe very post you saw the pic and responded to explained it. He would not get more pay, visibility or a promotion from doing so.Success breeds failure.
>>153674426>What do you think of Jim Lee's art todayAre you implying I liked it in the 90s
>>153674426He's really solid but I never particularly liked how he draws women. They're attractive but feels so hard and carved I think in the last 30 years he suffers especially from not really breaking out of his comfort zone and style. Like if he draws Batman grappling through the city or a character punching, its gonna look like a pose I've seen him draw before. It's nonoffensive, but it's also not really dynamic anymore. The qualities that make him better than McFarlane also makes him kinda boring, imp.
>>153674539>>153677653>>153677770Some artist had a story about checking out Jim Lee's personal sketchbook, one without his typical superhero stuff, and it just blew his mind, he was drawing in ways he never saw Jim Lee do before. He asked him why he never made comics like that, and Lee just said that's what he likes to do, but not what would sell the best.It's strange because I'm sure his more experimental stuff would sell very well too and get eyes on it, but it's like he doesn't want to be a prestige brand or a slightly niche artisan brand, he wants to be Coca Cola, Ford, or AT&T. I think his ego steers towards his Batman being the one on all the posters you find at Wal-mart and on mugs you get at a giftshop, ,not one that sells just to a niche of comic fans.
>>153674426in Hush he drew Batman with a fucking TINY head sometimes
>>153674676nice quote, newfag
>153678054>Implying I want to give retards free (You)s Only an actual newfag wouldn't realize this
>>153677886Do you think the art of artists like Kris Anka or Dan Mora would be what Jim Lee could have been if he had experimented more and made his poses feel less rigid and repetitive? I mean, than his drawings feel more loose and expressive
>>153674426He's technically skilled and has made some good pieces but he often lacks a wow factor that I assumed he would find with time and practice, but at this point I'd say he's probably plateaued.
>>153677977I hope he shows his sketchbook one day, I was already curious to know what his sketchbook is like with his most experimental art.
>>153678224I bet he draws nothing but flawless feet
>>153678192I think he'd be closer to a Wrightson or a Euro artists like serpieri and Liberatore. But I personally think Anka and Mora feel very repetitive. Mora is basically all midshot, midshot, almost no dynamic foreshortening, his hatching has become increasingly minimal or loose in a sketchy way that just feels like noise. Anka is dull as hell.
I hold him responsible for superhero art devolving into nothing more than glorified pin ups.
>>153678327>I think he'd be closer to a Wrightson or a Euro artists like serpieri and Liberatore.You're either blind or insane.
>>153675039>I think digital coloring makes his work a lot less punchy. I feel like that's always the case, really.
>>153679745This is a hypothetical where he evolves.
>>153682318He is the ultimate universe ultimate marvel artistYou can't make them look more marvel comics than Jim Lee is the meassuring stick for marvel comics art
>>153674505>Superman For Tomorrow looked pretty great but it was some of the most pretentious crap I've seen.Literally all they had to do was follow the playbook Hush already set; A 12 part storyline where Jim Lee draws Superman, guest starring all his important allies and with fights against all the importat Superman villains, but instead they saddled the run with a writer who didn't seem to get that JIM LEE DRAWING SUPERMAN was the draw, and wanted to do some 'deep and meaningful' story about Superman and his role in the world.>>153674539IIRC Deathblow in early Image and those few scenes in Hush were the only times he really experimented with his style, I guess when you have a winning formula you don't want to risk messing with it.
>>153682331Yes but that wasn't the question.
>>153682318You're turning him into a completely different artist, not just evolving him.
Of his nineties art, I liked it when it wasn't so detailed and when he used flat colors
>>153684288I don't mean he'd literally become like those artists, I just offered a general style he'd likely go closer compared to anon's examples of Anka and Mora. Anka and Mora have very flat/open lined styles, where as Jim Lee when left to his own devices seems to lean to rendering and heavy use of shading. Given his generation and his appreciation for Frank Miller, I can see him leaning towards similar influences like when Miller did Elektra Lives Again as a European/Metal Hurlant influenced book.
>>153674426Yeah his 90s artstyle is way better than 2000s. It has to do with coloring and the fact it was the 90s so everything was Extreme
>>153686654Wildcats was to good
>>153674426The modern coloring of today looks bad on him and I also think that just the DC characters and aesthetic in general really doesn't fit his style at all. >>153674632It's probably because he read Shirow and Otomo and other manga that was being brought over in the 80s or because he was a big Art Adams and Michael Golden fan, who I think were also influenced by manga to varying degrees.
