I think Helena Bertinelli is hot and an interesting character on her own, plus I love her silly Jim Lee costume, although it's not the best she's ever worn.
>>153714810her belly is distracting
>>153714825>t. Criminal who got his ass kicked by her
>>153714810I have trouble reconciling her aggressive Huntress persona with her caring teacher life.
>>153715299That’s all superheroes with secret identities
>>153715309Yeah, but in her case, she's actively working a day job because she believes it's not too late for the kids she's teaching. Then she gets into her vigilante costume and she's ruthless. I guess she's a one-strike-only person.
>>153714810She should become a nunDC doesn’t have any crime fighting nun characters
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>>153715299>>153715334That's just like what Frank Miller said about how Daredevil had to be Catholic because how else could a lawyer be a vigilante. She mainly goes after hardened career mob guys and not troubled youths, though. For what it's worth, the 1994 Huntress series REALLY leans into the Frank Miller feel, to the point Frank publicly shamed the artist.
>>153714810>is catholic>is also a turbo slutwhat did dc mean by this>>153714810>although it's not the best she's ever wornfuck you mean it's the only memorable costume she's ever hadsuper heroines and sexy costumes go together like bread and butter
>>153715959I don't really understand religion enough to understand why denomination is important for superheroing.
>>153716086>what did dc mean by thisshe went to catholic school
>>153716123To be honest it's a vague enough comment to see it in many ways, but in general it seems taken as the idea that Catholicism is based off a sense of justice and morality beyond just obeying the law, since despite having to work within the law he decides to take it in his own hands. There's also the concept of confession in Catholism where in errors in judgement can be given penance but have to be addressed and taken account for.
>>153716086>thought that catholic schoolgirls being slutty was just a meme>started dating a girl who was attending a catholic school while I was in college>turns out it's all trueYou will never find a girl who loves cock more anywhere else.
>>153716086>fuck you mean it's the only memorable costume she's ever hadAlways thought the 90's costume was really sexy and memorable.
I like Bertinelli enough, but holy shit what. a downgrade going from BATMAN'S DAUGHTER to some random Mafia boss' daughter.
This is depressing man...
>>153716323No you didn't, not even the costume designer thought it was good lmao.
>>153716408Two separate Huntress characters
>>153716442I know what I jorked to, anon.
>>153716454Bertinelli only exists because the creators on the Helena Wayne backup comics wanted to do more with her but Wayne was erased after Crisis. She’s always going to be in the shadow of that.
>>153716584Shes more popular that that character and has more potential as a heroine. The only reason bat dyke got a series but the huntress didnt was because blackrock bucks and ruby rose pussy game was strong.
>>153716584Problem with Helena Wayne is that she's the daughter of a version of Batman who could have been really any other GA hero. It really doesn't have any impact on who she is or her environment, as much as they tried to force that in more recent times. (She's also kinda bland. Contrast her with Power Girl, who came hot straight out of the gate. Come to think of it, I'd like to see Bertinelli Huntress and Peeg team up more)
Helena Wayne
>>153715959>Miller criticized Netzer, along with artists Jim Lee and Tim Sale, who also produced dark noir art in that period, for drawing influence from Sin City.He comes across as the asshole there to me. "How dare you alter your style to look more like mine"? He should be flattered.
>>153714810Great ass, that's Benes, right?
>>153714810What are her best comics? Hush and what else?
>>153719427Cry for Blood.Nightwing / Huntress.No Man's Land.She's fun in BoP.
>>153719408Yeh.
>>153720493>>153714810I get it vic, i get it
>>153714810>>153715566why this bitch is such a whore??
>>153716123I dont think hes being denomination specific hes using a catholic = christianity paradigm thats usually what people mean when they are speaking of catholicism they see it as representing all of christian thought. I could be wrong. but it seems thats what he meant.
>>153720885Protestants are very modest and mundane, nowhere near as visually interesting as Catholic iconography which is what he goes for in his visual medium.
>>153720857It has a good design and italian attitude
>>153716123Roughly speaking, catholics believe that salvation comes from faith + good deeds, while protestants believe that faith alone saves.
>>153721054well yea you are affirming my view. For example the whole notion of calling a non catholic 'protestant' is from the same group of thought that catholicism is the default and official Christian group and offshoots are just protesting it like a worker group unionizing, it clarifies they are separate while solidifying the catholic institution as the default. I dont think if we asked frank he would say it was just for the visuals but it could be, either way or a combination of factors.
>>153715334That's an overly simplistic and universalist way to think about it. These career criminals are perpetuating the cycle of criminality that sucks these youths into it and by going after them she can help clear a better possible future for her students.
>>153716316Big facts. Repressed Catholic schoolgirls are basically cock seeking missiles the moment they move out of their home town or attend a non-religious university.
>>153720493>>153720088>>153715566>>153714810Why does she like to show off her ass
>>153721181And this difference alone lends itself well to storytelling. A Catholic hero seeing the road to salvation very differently affects how he or she views his own mission and those of criminals. A Protestant might be more willing to forgive a criminal and think there is always time for redemption at the last minute since it is through faith alone. A Catholic might interpret a life long criminal as not doing the good deeds and thus less likely to be redeemable.
>>153721552She's a good looking woman with a nice ass. It's only natural she'd want to. Modesty is for uggos
>>153721345True. Most of the “Girls Gone Wild” from the late 90s and early 2000s were former Catholic school girls now in college.
Wayne and Bertinelli together
>>153721855Hot
I suppose Helena Wayne is more about her tits while Bertinelli is about her ass.
>>153716323Yeah, I like her JLA era costume.
BUNDA
>>153715299Miss Bertinelli is one hot teach.
>>153722302>t. Jaime Reyes
>>153721552If your ass was that good, you'd show off too.
>>153718491>for drawing influence fromThe nigger shared a studio with Chaykin and Simonson while cribbing heavily from both, he's a notorious style chameleon
>>153716616No, it's because her backstory is way more simple to adapt. Also Batwoman is a much better and more obvious naming connection to Batman even if the character has less to directly do with him in practice.
>>153716442> not even the costume designer thought it was good lmao.Proof?
Were they really gonna pair her off with Jason of all dudes in that cancelled book with them as the leads lol
She's always been one of the hottest DC girls
>>153720493morning mass = mooning ass
>>153723565Let's go back to her reintroduction to the DCU post-Crisis
>>153724128What a cute little kidAlso, an unknowing Mafia princess
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>>153716424She's been wearing an updated version of that costume for a while now
>>153724229Everyone's favorite superheroine origin!
>>153724286And then the next page is Helena in her 20s as a young professional.
>>153724353Marvel: RAPED BY A RADIOACTIVE SPIDER…
>>153724353They really had no mercy with this character
>>153724631Understand that even with a wop writer, this is the exact thing the Mafia does NOT do because while Cavalieri knows "omerta" he apparently does not know the word "vendetta"
>>153724353She’s smiling though.
>>153724353This reminds me of that anime Kite.
>>153724229This is still depressing to look at.
>>153725115Why?
>>153714810Has she ever...with any of her students?
>>153725183Only the high schoolers
>>153725183Would you?
>>153725183No, I doubt she wants any inexperienced dorks she needs to mommy. She needs a man who can fuck the daddy issues out of her.
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>>153725580Helena gets off to being in mommy mode with an inexperienced partner if they're hot enough.>>153725614Based. Zatanna fans seem to enjoy this.
>>153714810Been on a recent Huntress binge and read through her time as Batgirl. Felt bad for her and kinda wish she had been allowed to keep the role for a bit longer.
>>153725930I don't, I like the costume design and that they gave Cassandra Cain the job, Helena was to violent
>>153724710> this is the exact thing the Mafia does NOT doYeah they good boys they would never do anything mean like that!
>>153725930She looks too developed for being a girl.
>>153725993>Helena was to violentThey make it a point that she respected the emblem enough that she was willing to tone down the violence and respect Batman’s code. Obviously it was never meant to actually last, but it kind of makes you think about how things would have turned out if she had actually gotten to keep the mantle.
>>153724229I wonder if she'll ever wear that costume from Red Hood again
>>153726322That’s because she never called herself Batgirl, she was just The Bat and attempting to evoke Batman at a time he was officially an urban legend
>>153726741>she was just The BatI have no idea where/when this narrative started popping up, but I’ve always found it so dumb. Sure, she never explicitly calls herself Batgirl in-story, but nearly every character and sometimes even the narrative goes out of its way to call her Batgirl.
>>153726520>panel 3 textfukkin cringe
>>153727063Storywise it's an important distinction because she had no interest in taking Bab's mantle or roleBabs is the only one fixated on considering her Batgirl and only then does the narrative occasionally call her Batgirl one on twice in a somewhat loaded way, but when pressed for a name she specifically avoids it well after that. The whole point was that she was wearing the costume but wasn't actually Batgirl, Cass was the one who actually fit in the group and embraced the role. Helena thought it was bullshit and moved on. Sharing a costume but not a mantle is rare but not unheard of.
>>153714825That's the point. You seriously think Helena Bertinelli does anything "by accident"?
>>153714810I remember her dad being Al Pacino in JLU.
>>153728912Why did they go for the Tony Montana look tho
>>153728826Boobies
>>153729548Look, we need you to one hundred percent understand this guy is a gangster so Italian, he smuggles pizza sauce.
>>153730130But Tony Montana is Cuban
>>153730546Cubans and Italians are the same in Hollywood. The only difference is the language other than English they speak when upset.
>>153724286>>153724353She’s happy and smiling. Did the guy give her some great candy?Why is the father upset?She looks fine to me.
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>Get the fuck outta here! You're not gonna believe this. Frankie's kid is undressed, she's with a bad familiy. Apparently gal is now a big grantee>what's a grantee?
>>153728004Babs is desperate to call anything batgirl
>>153731469kek, I saw that clip a couple hours ago.Any ideas to draw Huntress? I like her.
Helena was a thing because it fill the batgirl and batwoman void first and then the batwoman niche.The moment we had 3 batgirl and batwoman is just another batcharacter.Same problem Tim had.
>>153731972She found her niche in Birds of Prey as the lancer to Black Canary’s heroine.
>>153718162Must be cold wherever she is.
>>153732343She doesn’t believe in bras
>>153729548beautiful italian hag mother
>>153731181>Did the guy give her some great candy?Some great stuff down there even Fat Angelo doesn't have
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>>153733281Wait?!?The candy guy made her a woman?But she’s underage!!!!
>>153724710Yes I'm sure no one in the Mafia has ever been a pedophile. Ever. Besides it's also rare for the Mafia to ever actually annihilate an entire family, if ever. You should just take this as a caveat of it being fiction and Gotham being a total hellhole.
>>153720857She went to catholic school
>>153733531Sure, but if you diddle kids you don't diddle someone in the biz's kid.
>>153734011This is clearly a particularly fucked up version of the Mafia considering there's never been a documented case of them completely wiping out a family intentionally targeting kids too like they did with the Bertinellis
>>153719460>Nightwing / Huntress.I just read that and eithera) At some point Greg Land was real good b) Bill Sienkiewicz's inks are magicc) both are true
She’s from Gotham right?
>>153734514I don't think Helena is allowed to do that
>>153734699Do what?
>>153735403lezz out
>>153734480c)
Helena is over the hill. She doesn’t have the youngest best ass in DC.
>>153737979Courtney is flat, Steph butt mogs
>>153738001Steph has the tits not the ass
>>153737979Built to please young excited JSA males
>>153734514Helena x Kate would be a kino bi pairing
>>153739238Like who?
>>153726540If she saw Jason execute someone she'd be grinding on him and begging for his cock
>>153739284Jakeem and Khalid together with Yolanda
>>153739631And Cyclone
>>153740324Those lil niggas are just enjoying orgies with whatever pussy is available on the jsa
>>153740692What about Judy Garrick?
What should be done with Helena? Who should she date/fuck?
>>153740958Which Helena?Bertinelli or Wayne?
>>153740967Both. But whichever is the one currently running around the present dc universe. >>153740796Nah.
>>153741004Helena should get with Michael Lane.
She should fuck an utter psychopath who keeps her addicted to his cock haha
>>153741435Any recommendations?
>>153741441Scarecrow with a huge dick
>>153737979Yara mogs
>>153741475Mogs and has taken numerous dicks in her fat brazilian ass
>>153731946All built for...>>153725614Kind of insane that both of them would happily ride Prime's insane omnicidal cock
>>153737979Would Courtney grow up to be a PAWG?
>>153741653She has a superfans where simps pay to watch her shake her pawg
>>153736760Soft.
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>>153734480I’m veering towards b) although I admit Land was competent once. How do you fall that low
>>153714810What's a good Huntress intro or reading order, Anons? All I know about her is the like two panels where she showed up in Hush (I think) and that at one point she was supposed to be a Wayne.
>>153744325Robin: Cry of the Huntress is a solid entry point
>>153714810Is there a name for these kind of hot pants that leave a part of the butt cheeks visible?
>>153714810All Superheroes need a psychiatric evaluation for how much they lean into violent and self destructive tendencies in order to function with their regular lives as non construed civilians. I figured Helena is one such case, she's addicted to objective vigilante violence to aliviate something stressful and mundane in her life plus sociopathic quirks since she's executes her enemies for own twisted principles.
