Is TT 2003 the only good attempt at "redeeming" her.
>>153720469I still think she's fairly easily redeemable in the og wolfman comic. In that one she really comes across like a vulnerable teenager to the point where if Slade hadn't groomed her, I would have.The real killer is how she's treated after the fact. She's victim blamed shockingly often and given very little sympathy.
It's not a redemption if she's actully a victim. Orginal comics Terra is a genuine sack of shit, and is as much an evil abuser as reddit thinks Deathstroke is. The only crime 03 Terra did was falling in love with BB. Moving on after hurting someone's feelings is the only right thing to do. And it's still not a redemption, the final episode is all in service to a life lesson for young people. That sub-text or theme makes the actions by the characters mean less on their level and more on the vewiers level. She wasn't redeemed, she's a warning to (you)
>>153720469TT2003 made her so fucking sexy.
>>153720469She doesn't need to be redeemed but just given no reason to be evil. Like a mercenary that's paid to do good. But instead she gets fucked by hot older men and smokes a pack of cigarettes a day.
>>153720848Did you forget the whole betraying and trying to get most of her so called friends killed in their sleep part? 03 Terra was a retard and deserved and verbal and physical lashing
>>153720836>In that one she really comes across like a vulnerable teenagerI completely dissagree, she's shown multiple times not caring for anything but the status of heself as a double agent. The easiest, almost fladerized, example is the TT and Outsiders crossover. Geoforce wants to reconnect with Terra but she has a mini freakout in thought-bubble about her being figured out. She had plenty of chances to call off everything and tell the truth to capable people that would understand and protect her. But she never even considers it. She gets off on the idea of hurting people who think they are her friends. >She's victim blamed shockingly often and given very little sympathy.I think it's fully deserved. But the most recent story with Terra has her being redeemed "for good" in a K.O. tie-in. With DC's "everything is canon" approach, which is actully like, she shouldn't be trusted with even a butter knife imho. Personally i belive in forgivness, but Terra has a real problem with trying to kill her supposed friends.
>>153720910>03 Terra was a retardThis lol. But really i feel like going through with Slade's plan is understanable and forgivable for 03 Terra. In that show she is genuinly is a groomed little retarded girl. The real betrayal, and Garfield would certainly agree, is falling in love but still following through. Even when the Titan's come back and shame her, it's BB who hurts her the most. Robin is already over everything before her sacrifice. Yea she tried to kill them, but Slade is actully the real villian.
>>153720469Why does she need to be redeemed
>>153721147DO NOT REDEEM!!!
>>153720848>I gave a blowjob to an evil man so he'd teach me to control my superpowers so it's OK I helped him take over a city
>>153720848>She wasn't redeemed, she's a warning to (you)This is something I wish the internet would get as to why Terra redemption/saving is so stupid even if you make her sympathetic because the real point of the comic was that it ended in a suicide.Judas Contract was, more than anything, a loss of innocence story made for a generation coming of age.Whether it's twisted father daughter or sexual grooming, the real big point for Terra's character is when she calls the Titans out on treating her like a day to be saved.The concept being that there will be people in your life, people you may very well be in love with, who you desperately want to help. People in situations where you can definitively call them victims and who you hate how much they're suffering. Yet if these people don't want to be helped, then you need to emotionally brace yourself. As well as the idea that part of growing up is learning there isn't always gonna be closure or a happy ending.That's a unique lesson for a superhero story. The way everyone is like "save the poor girl" is just giving the audience what they want at the expense of the theme and moral.
>>153720848>>153721026>>153721432
>>153721432I agree it's exhausting that the internet had the understanding of seetheing children on playgrounds from 2004, even after Khary Payton screamed the answer in plain english years ago now. Comics have a real problem on their hands with characters like Terra. People want to see more of them (and publishers want to keep copywrite fresh) which leads to a mis-match of characters having a defined and meaningful story and them having to contenue doing things and living. Terra can't be redeemed because it takes away from the story centered around her, but she has to be redeemed to keep having stoeries written about her. Its a catch 22 that usually ends with no one being happy the longer time goes on.>>153721670Slade should play with her feet
>>153721807>Terra can't be redeemed because it takes away from the story centered around her, but she has to be redeemed to keep having stoeries written about her. Its a catch 22 that usually ends with no one being happy the longer time goes on.why can't a character just be an awful human being?>Slade should play with her feethe's going to fill her warm wet cunny with semen after this to father another son
>>153721133Nah I can't really get over the levels of retardation and treachery she was pulling. By all accounts the Titans were the superior choice unless she wanted Slade's cock in that too.>Group of people her age who mostly love her aside from the goth chick with emotional issues. Though even she comes around when she is playing spy>Fuck huge Tower with all the latest tech and comforts>Can also train her to git gud with her power. Cyborg could certainly whip up tech buffers too if they needed it>She proceeds a huge spergfit thinking Beast Boy lied about not telling them she has trouble with her powers...despite the fact she had an episode in the middle of the fucking city with the rest of the team around and it was deduced by the protege of one of if not the world's greatest detective>Tries to get most of them murdered and acts surprised when the guy she lured away to 'spare' gets fucking pissed that his other friends are about to be murdered thanks to her stabbing them in the back>Acts like they fucking killed her family and dog next time she sees them even though they were the ones that suffered a murder attempt. Then she tries to murder em all systematically >When they finally decide she's a looney and take off the kid gloves to beat the shit out of her she somehow acts surprised that the people she's tried to murder multiple times are now not talking to her and whooping her ass like any other foe.
>>153722267Terra's flaw is pride.
>>153721807This is another symptom of the real problem with the big 2's system being unable to create anything new. Fighting over rights of authors and characters leads to nothing new getting made and just recycling and remixing old stuff endlessly. If they could consistently make new stuff then they wouldn't have this issue of having/wanting to revive characters whose story arcs were completed decades ago. The New Teen Titans were over half new characters after all.
>>153720469They should double down and make her molest Deathstroke
>>153720469This was them hitting that EVA blunt and said "doooood what if we did this in a cartooon" or some shit like that.
>>153725113This was a retarded piece of other versions of Terra to add onto the '03 version. It's much better if she has no backstory at all. Not to mention rehashing the "is the blonde girl in the last episode Terra?" question.
>>153725113Look how cute she looks as a lil princess. So precious.
>>153725113slade got himself some royal cunny honey
>>153720469I like what the current New Titans comic is doing with her.>>153720848The issue is writers and fans try to pretend Slade did nothing wrong and gave him a free pass for Judas Contract and all of the other bad things he did.A lot of the people who have issues with Terra getting redemption have no issue when characters who did worse stuff than her get the redeemed or treated like they 'have a point' or are justified.
>>153725652slade gets a pass because he's cool
>>153725413>Not to mention rehashing the "is the blonde girl in the last episode Terra?" question.This comic made it incredibly clear it was her.
>>153725813she looks exactly like her and the statue of terra was gonewhy wouldn't it be?
>>153725813Well, exactly.
>>153725832She seemed completely baffled when Beast Boy threw some mud at her. If it was Terra she may have decided never to use her powers agian, but she wouldn't fail to understand why he did that.
Beast Boy should’ve killed Slade and claimed Terra as his sex slave
>>153725928Slade would've slaughtered that faggot cuck boy
>>153725946What the fuck is Slade going to do against a T-Rex
>>153726296stab it in the eye
>>153726310Beast Boy has animal reflexes, if Slade tries that he’ll just shift into a bug in half a second, transform again, and attack Slade from behind
>>153726358copeslade can stab the flash
>>153726358>>153726444Dumb argument when Deathstroke is actually Justice League/Batman tier villain, way under the Teen Titans capacity yet just watered down to the show. Even if he still gets able to no diff the entire team sometimes.Anyway, for me is when Batman literally ruins the Judas Contract plot by being Batman in Young Justice. Now that was funny.
>>153726444No, the Flash can just run into his sword. Despite the fact that it is equivalent to someone holding out a sign with the words "Run into me" in front of you for 10 minutes yet you still somehow run into it.
>>153726624mIcRo ExPResSiOns
>>153723487Nahhhh I don't think that's such a good idea
>>153721670poor Joseph
>>153728272she's good cunny
>>153720469Post cute Terras.
>>153720469It pisses me the fuck off people say the show ended here, IT ENDED WITH THE MOVIE, IT CAME OUT AFTER THIS, YOU FUCKING RETARDS!
>>153720469>Ep about letting things go and move on>Fans still haven't moved on from the show.
>>153720469
>>153728391weak ass movie
>>153726444Digits don't lie.
>>153728391Teen Titans show really improve everyone's design, holy shit. Except for Deathstroke. Even if he's basically almost a total different character in it.This Terra in that movie was ugly and looked like way older.
>>153728615>Teen Titans show really improve everyone's designTT03 really is the peak for a lot of characters in it. I think Terra in 'Young Justice' was cute too, but still nowhere near the level of total babe that is 03.
>>153728378You can lead a horse to water
>>153728391>no way fag
>>153720469Be honest.You would slade too
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>>153725652>Slade did nothing wrongCorrect. Nah really though. Deathstroke dropped a nuke on Bluhdhaven and killed children in africa. But he's also got couple of kids a and an ex-wife that he wishes he didn't fumble. He's complex, even if he is a pos. And if anything i see people pulling out diddy bluh ahh jokes or "yikes" remarks at the mere mention of him. Judas Contract is a fucking long line of induvidual comics. Most people haven't read any of it and just clutch pearls from a wiki read or a chan post. >A lot of the people who have issues with Terra getting redemption have no issue when characters who did worse stuff than her get the redeemed or treated like they 'have a point' or are justified.Because when she does get a second (or fifth) chance, she goes right back to being an untrustworthy murderer. Prime is a great example of what you're trying to point at. He killed people that are still dead, which in comics is wild. But he's being further redeemed now. I'll be the first to say Clark should erase Prime from reality if he fucks up again, but so far he isn't behaving like Terra would.
>>153721432>The way everyone is like "save the poor girl" is just giving the audience what they want at the expense of the theme and moral.Yeah, because it erodes the concept of the superhero. Every time in life you look at a situation, say "that was disappointing" and move on, you get a little better at it. And you get a little worse at doing anything else instead.
>>153728391>jimmy olsen died his hair and tried to seduce slade but he turned him down